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  We probably can't start Sunday. I have been so busy this week at work that I never got a chance to go thr... : Goncyn
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    if we already sent you a SM but decide to change our leaders, is it too late? Also, would it be possib... : Jikim
    • Yes, go ahead and SM me again, same format, I'll use the last one you send. I'll post a list of participa... : Goncyn
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    We are also going to have more than 24 players, so I have to figure out what to do about that. : Goncyn
    • Tell players 25 and above to choke on your dick. Unless I'm one of them. Then tell players 24 and up, exc... : Deathlove
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  who did Deathlove choose? I want to pick his leaders mortal enemy. : Degenerate
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    Realpost: Washington (USA), Tokugawa (Japan), Boudica (Celts). Not in that order, though! WHAT ORDER DID... : Deathlove
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      I'm going to go all Hammurabi on your ass! : Degenerate
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        honestly, I'm not sure why I put Hammurabi as my first choice. I think I that might like him but I'm pret... : Degenerate
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          I haven't used any of those leaders! Because fuck it, right? RIGHT?!?!?!?!!!?!!??!!?!? : Deathlove
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            thats a damned lie and you know it! I know that you're a SEAL whore! but thats ok because youll be wip... : Degenerate
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              I'm watching Step Brothers and you are definitely the John C. Reilly to my Will Ferrell. Mainly because y... : Deathlove
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                don't touch my drum set >:( : Degenerate
                • JOHN BONHAM'S REALLY PLAYING MOBY DICK : Deathlove
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  Is this play by email? I predict 2 full turns before someone drops the ball forever. : JMro
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    Pitboss. : Deathlove
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      He's still correct in his prediction though. : cltcprd
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        The last game I remember most everyone participated until they were eliminated. : aethyr
        • Yep, took most of a year! : Deathlove
        • i think there was some turnover in players but we found replacements without difficulty : dirge23
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        youre playing right? : Degenerate
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          hadn't planned on it. : cltcprd
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            gay : Degenerate
            • ur face is gay : cltcprd
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    The people who play in these games are usually good about sticking with it. People drop out, yes, but aft... : Goncyn
    • I have sworn my Oath of the Moment! : Degenerate
    • i'm only hoping you guys are as bad as me or else i fear the Jikim empire will crumble come turn 50-100is... : Jikim
  • People will drop out, but the nature of Pitboss ensures that the game continues without skipping a beat. ... : OverloadUT
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  Can I play this even if I'm a total newb? 1 turn a day takes what like 5 mins? : maulla
  • Sometimes even less than that - Somedays booting up my computer took longer. : Jonathan
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    The only criteria for playing are 500 posts, BTS ownership, and dedication. : Goncyn
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      I think I can manage that, full well knowing that I will be the first one to be destroyed : maulla
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        haha sucks to be you then because I've already got dibs on being the first civilization wiped from the fa... : Degenerate
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          Not if the barbarians walk into my capital first. : Jikim
          • not allowed! : Degenerate
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          paging buzzbat : Deathlove
          • paging my foot to your ass >:( : buzzbat
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          want to form an alliance? we can trade resources that will end up in someone elses hands in the end : maulla
          • I will NEVER form an alliance with Isabella! : Degenerate
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      aren't you going to announce the rules? like the "no moving at the last hour and going again right after ... : Jikim
      • I think that's only in times of war, so you don't get a tactical advantage : Juno
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        I already announced the rules multiple times in previous posts. : Goncyn
        • i thought you would post it for other posts too :P : Jikim
• OK, Shackmessage sent. I'm in. I'm thinking of just keeping the game running on a secondary computer, to ... : NexusOne
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  I'm pretty sure I signed up... did I sign up? : Juno
  • yes, you did : Goncyn
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  RULES for the lazy and those who have forgotten; this will be included in the official e-mail to all sig : Goncyn
  • muahahhaha (: : Jikim
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    Editorial: I've seen a few "wow, harsh" type responses to these rules. The rules are harsh by design. It'... : Goncyn
    • who said they were harsh? kick them and deathlove out of the game. : Degenerate
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    4) since I am a total noob: Are turns based on a randomly generated order, or is it a 1 turn per 24hou... : maulla
    • turns are simultaneous. Whenever you log on to the server you will be able to take your turn, as will eve... : Cheeziologist
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  I just cant commit to the length even though I know I wouldnt last long. I played a single player game th... : pimpium
  • seriously. the game is just evil. :( : Degenerate
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    That's the great thing about Pitboss. You play one turn, and then you're done and go away! Unless you're ... : Deathlove
    • lets take our warriors against his elephants! : Jikim
    • Unless you're playing correctly, you mean. Playing like a WINNAR : dirge23
    • I would micromanage and also forget to play my turn a bunch. So im just a bad dude. : pimpium
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  I haven't played Civ4 in years. Should I enter this anyway ? How did it go last time ? : MrLobo
  • I heard that dirge totally cheated and thats why he won. at least thats what deahlove told me. : Degenerate
  • it went like this: http://www.civstats.com/viewgame.php?gameid=919 : dirge23
  • Like I told maulla, I don't care how good you are at Civ, I only care that you are dedicated to the game. : Goncyn
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  I am so pumped for this!!! You get my shackmessage right? : Vantage
  • yessir : Goncyn
• Last bump for the chatty. Looking forward to wiping my old box and setting it up for serving this weekend : Goncyn
• wow, if my wedding and honeymoon weren't this summer, I'd do this. : Dante

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  interesting.... : trOmblyj
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    it is! I was looking forward to it because I really loved the demo. : Nitrium
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      I've sucked at flight sims recently. I still remember my flight-sim glory days of Battle of Britain, Sec... : trOmblyj
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        used to play airwarrior 2 and 3 online... man that shit was great. : radarman
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          SVGA Air Warrior FTW! ROOKIE <CAF> Tail #1549 B-Land Full Real! : RookieCAF
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            full real was very rough, i had to play relaxed to keep it fun... but i would play a new game like that i... : radarman
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              I hope you weren't one of the RR guys me and my Squadmate tormented one night with our B17 ;) : RookieCAF
              • lol, aside from when i first started playing, i don't think i ever flew with less than 10 or 15 of my squ... : radarman
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        same to me, but this game got me really interested remember Aces over Europe? so awesome back then : Nitrium
        • and aces of the pacific!! i love carrier based flight sims, i like AotP cuz they had a "what if" campaign... : papaskot
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    sweet it has singleplayer too!! hope that includes some kinda skirmish battle mode? : yacoub35
    • Yeah, I think so. But there's a bigass patch rumored to be released on Jan. 14th adding other play modes,... : Nitrium
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  Hell yes! i hope it is good. : sheepraper
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    there's a demo available! : Nitrium
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      Oh WTF, how did I miss that? : sheepraper
      • too busy playing that faggy diablo-esque game or that faggy bazilion guns game? j/k : Nitrium
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      I dont see it. Not on steam? : malloc
      • The demo is standalone, but you can grab it at www.airwargame.com : Nitrium
• uh oh : dael
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  Looks like I have to dust off my TrackIR which has been sitting dormant for almost a year. : tboomer2
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    I cleaned my trackir3 yesterday! : Nitrium
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      you TrackIR fgts will rape the rest of us :( : yacoub35
      • Yea, I am going to get raped. i want to gt one, but im still not sure. : sheepraper
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  I'm a bad person. I'm done with WWII games :( : LoioshDwaggie
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    For flight sims, there really isn't a better period imo. Although WW1 era planes can be fun as well. : daedraug
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      Really? I don't enjoy stalling or flat spins that much. Both rate low on my fun factor. : tboomer2
      • Well, that's what makes it fun, you have to push the planes as far as possible without stepping over that... : daedraug
      • recovering is the fun part. : dael
  • yer crazy : flasher 907
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  Altitude is the better Flight Sim : Cihte
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    Get off my lawn our thread. : Nitrium
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      i just thought i'd let people who want to experience the fear and chaos of real aerial combat know about ... : Cihte
      • in what way(s)? : yacoub35
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    Altitude is so fucking fun : OverloadUT
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      what's altitude, precious? : mikecyb
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        i wondered so i searched for it on Steam and there it was: http://store.steampowered.com/search/?term=alt... : yacoub35
        • ooo a demo. hey a hot cartoon pilot chick! what doesn't this game have? : mikecyb
      • It's Modern Warfare only with airplanes! : Cihte
• oh man that looks fantastic! I'll add it to my list to keep an eye on for a sale. : yacoub35
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  BUMP : Nitrium
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    After that holiday sale I can't bear the thought of $45 for a game. =\ This does look awesome, but I gott... : yacoub35
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      did you check the demo, yac? : Nitrium
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        it's not on Steam so i didn't get around to it =\ i wonder if an x360 controller works with this game. : yacoub35
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          http://yuplay.com/story.php?title=Wings-Prey--demo-version click it... You know you want to... Cliiiiiiii... : Nitrium
          • it does look REALLY good. dammit. : flasher 907
• I mean... http://www.philsized.com/lol/bump.jpg : Nitrium
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  Just bought IL2 1946 during the steam sale. Even at 10% off $45 is too expensive for me. I'll play IL2 fo... : flasher 907
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    Get the AAA mod, it will keep you entertained for quite a while. It adds a bunch of planes, makes the gra... : m0nkz
    • tks, will have to check that out for now i did this to improve my gfx http://forums.steampowered.com/f... : flasher 907
• is it true this is from former IL2 devs? : flasher 907
• This is a real sim with realistic flight dynamics, avionics etc and not an Ace Combat-style arcade thing ... : TabsAZ
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  Looks fantastic, but I'll probably wait for a price drop. Just got DCS Blackshark for $20.. : RookieCAF
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    Good god that game is HARD. I can't even remember how to turn on the damn helicopter properly and have to... : m0nkz
    • I know. I think I may be in over my head :) : RookieCAF

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  "I would like to thank news sites who chose to share the awesome work in Code Hunters with their readers.... : eonix
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    Why to deflect the blame, asshat. Looking like an art style is one thing (TF2/Heroes vs. Incredbiles) but... : eonix
    • *way to deflect, rather. : eonix
    • Wow, this guy is starting to make his company look REALLY bad. He's as immature as he's accusing others o... : Phreakin
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      I see a vaguely similar art style and a bus. Was there anything else in common? : yacoub35
      • The "sketchy" texture style, I think. : Rotten Deadite
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    "It was inspiring to me when "The Incredibles" was clearly a big source of influence for titles like Batt... : Godhatesfatpeople
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      are there any pre-art change pics of the game? : multisync
      • http://www.shacknews.com/screenshots.x?gallery=10606&game_id=4612#img125035 : mikecyb
• Bumping this because I know you fools love you some Borderlands. : eonix
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  I dunno, the rendering style is very similar but it's not really something that was invented by Borderlan... : mikecyb
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    Wow. -Render style -Art style -4 main characters, 1 female and 1 brute in the mix -the SETTING -th... : eonix
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      the art style isn't really overly original in code hunters, and the characters are far more exaggerated i... : mikecyb
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        So a bus pulling in to a post-apocalyptic town as a method of introducing a character or characters for i... : eonix
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          I guess I can grant you that but the setting is still way too general and Borderlands existed in that set... : mikecyb
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            also even if you are entirely right, a video game ripping something off? say it ain't so! did you play ... : mikecyb
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              Haha, Randy Pitchford hijacked mikecyb's account! +100 to Deflection! ;) Kidding aside, this doesn'... : eonix
              • oh I think his reply is completely hilarious : mikecyb
              • Because your OP has nothing to negate. : the city
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            Borderlands did, its current art style did not. They switched styles, remember? Pretty sure it wasn't in ... : eonix
            • I'm not talking about the rendering style, just the setting. post apocalyptic desert has been done a mil... : mikecyb
            • right, the style saved it if you asked me and made it the entertaining game it was. to merely say it was... : multisync
        • Trigun. It's how you meet Wolfwood. Honestly, when I saw this, it looked like it was ripping off ever... : TheVietSpecial
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    did you watch the whole video? it's hard to say we didnt play Codehunters the game : multisync
    • I wouldn't go quite that far, but it looks like Borderlands was pretty heavily influenced by Codehunters.... : Arcanum
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      how? were were the weird fur monsters and elevated trains and fighting dudes with giant hammers. it's a... : mikecyb
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        It's pretty suspect that this is released in 2007, to hear they switch art styles in BL in 2008. I can't ... : eonix
        • i'm with you : multisync
      • Fur monsters == skags? : MaJeStu
  • dude.... : mwasher
  • The bus was pretty damn similar. : pigvomit
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  boarderlands is the best unoriginal games of all time. It takes from everything that's come before it an... : metalremains
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    I agreed up until Fun :( : eonix
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      you're right, it was more than just fun. It was kinda awesome. : yacoub35
      • I love playing it with friends, but on my own I was pretty bored. Cool ideas, though. : eonix
      • I loved borderlands and I still play it even after all this time. It can turn out to be a huge rip-off o... : Rotten Deadite
      • Agreed. The added DLC makes it even better. : Wolfanoz
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      And there's the reason you are harping on this. : Fred Garvin
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        Huh? I don't think Borderlands is a bad game. Not by any means. It just wasn't my cup of tea, so therefor... : eonix
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          /shrug it's similar for sure, but toon rendering has been around for years. : Fred Garvin
          • Haha, well yes.. sure. (So?) :P : eonix
  • no thats uncharted 2 : CoRDS
• Holy shit! : acheron
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  I just stopped at about 2:19 in where we get a gratuitous ass shot in the first video and its reminiscent... : MercFox1
  • Codehunters, excuse me : MercFox1
  • but mercfox, skags are totally not the fuzzy creatures - you are loony : multisync
  • hahaha holy shit : mwasher
  • I think that was in one of the promo videos too. : pyide
• *Shrug.* No big deal. : Rice-Rocketeer
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  Hijacking my own thread To be clear, since Fred brought up a good point about my replies to this post,... : eonix
  • Will you stop goddamned posting in this thread? If we take you and cybermike out this thread shrinks by 7... : MercFox1
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  The rendering and pallette are similar but its unfair to call it Codehunters the game. As evident with th... : Klebold
  • I do love the box-art! : eonix
  • (like Trigun) : TheVietSpecial
• Interesting : bombay
• The internet (places like cgsociety, deviantart) is fuckin lousy with the angular illustration style that... : SpaecKow
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  Codehunters the dude gets off the bus to walk another 30 miles. Borderlands you get dropped right off at ... : Sailor of Fortune
  • also Codehunters has an ending. WHAT NOW EONIX?! : mikecyb

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  Links to good videos? I'm curious about this game, would like to see it in action : asylumn
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    I have you set, good sir: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av-gLqehke4&fmt=22 http://www.youtube.com/watc... : LoioshDwaggie
    • Hrm..looks pretty interesting. Thanks : asylumn
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      Just my opinion, I find it hard to get into a Space MMO because of the lack of variety of creatures. The ... : whistletits
      • why should it have to be this way? potentially you have many planets worth of weird creatures, instead o... : MamiyaOtaru
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      any videos not about battles? I'd like to see planet missions etc. : onji
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        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrBy1k26g4w : Nitrium
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          jeez, the gameplay looks almost identical to champions online. :( : atom519
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            is that... bad? (legit question) : Nitrium
            • My opinion: yes. Champions was boring. : chadg033
      • The only away team video I've seen is one on a planet that isn't quested out yet. The engine looks gorgeo... : LoioshDwaggie
    • noteworthy : CRasterImage
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    I would give them to you but I'm mobile at the moment...can someone else link him? if all else fails, loo... : JohnnyRey
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      I got ya covered : LoioshDwaggie
      • thanks buddy! : JohnnyRey
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  Gargh, this game shouldn't be good... but it really really is. I don't think it will have the legs, seein... : Klebold
  • space combat is very fun : Clay
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    Can you elaborate on other parts aside from the space combat? I have seen some mentions of the away stuff... : pimpium
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      Its boring, but thats why its brilliant - Its star trek the MMO afterall. I have had to settle border dis... : Klebold
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        Was it just you and several NPCS in your party or did you have any other players in your party? : pimpium
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          its has an open instance system. At any point you beam down with your AI teammates. If someone else is do... : Klebold
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            Cool. Have you played it with many friends or just kind doing your own thing right now? i appreciate y... : pimpium
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              I'm the only person i know who is in the closed beta. There are 3 more days of testing (sat, sun, mon) th... : Klebold
              • Alrighty. Im not sure ill have to chance to try the open beta but ill keep reading about it. It defini... : pimpium
      • That sounds like my cup of tea right there. : LoioshDwaggie
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        let's get down to brass tacks. is there healing in this game, and is it awesome? : electroly
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          There is healing but its more of an ability than anything else. Everyone is a DPSer but each type of shir... : Klebold
          • Ship combat really sounds like the major draw in this game. Shooting and rolling around a lot sounds e... : Rotten Deadite
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          More importantly, am I able to successfully DPS, Tank and Heal in this game by mashing my forehead agains... : Rotten Deadite
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            ^^^^^^^^^^^^ : electroly
            • Last night in /lfd I had someone actually tell me to stop cleansing and off-healing and get back to DPSin... : Rotten Deadite
          • No! you may not! Things to consider in ship battles: -You orientation and the firing arcs of fore and ... : Klebold
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        do you clean space toilets? i'm sold : GloriousCow
        • accelerate your life! : silent prophet
  • Really? That truly amazes me judging from the videos they released, but good to hear nonetheless. : atom519
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    How exactly does leveling work with the ranks? Also, how does ship selection work? As you move in rank ... : amrbean
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      You have five tiers of ship. The tier 1 ship is the same for everyone- a miranda. From there you can pick... : Klebold
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        your ship tiers: http://suricatasblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/stoshiptierchart11.png : JuffoWup
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          Do you have to commit to a ship path or can you go from a cruiser to science ship of the same tier for ex... : hbalce1
          • from what I'm reading, you can change from science to escort and so forth, but the mechanics of it, I don... : JuffoWup
          • You can have any ship. The first from each tier is free and you can choose the class upon reaching the re... : xxx2xxx
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    I ordered this game purely because of that guys NDA breaking videos - he better not get shouted at for it... : jbury
    • same to me, ordering tomorrow on steam : Nitrium
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      link? : smax
      • second reply in this thread : Nitrium
    • That video is so much cooler once you realise wtf is going on. : Klebold
  • so what would be the most useful pre-order bonus to get? : retardhumper
• Is the space combat anywhere near klingon academy? also whats the pvp like and hows it play out. : thewindcriesmary
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  I thought the open beta doesn't start until the 12th. Wouldn't that mean that even if you receive your c... : amrbean
  • yep : JohnnyRey
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  So are people going horde Klingon or staying starfleet? I know it's some different system where you can'... : fr0x
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    do you get to choose your race if you're in starfleet or do you have to be human? : electroly
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      You have a choice with human, vulcan, bajoran and others. plus you have a choice of making your own alien... : Klebold
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        Is there just a single server? Does anyone know how the servers work (am I going to be locked into an EU ... : jbury
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          From what I understand it's the same as with CO, one server for everyone. : daedraug
          • That would be great, I hate not being able to play with shackers normally : jbury
          • I looked it up, and it appears this is going to be only one server, which is great news. Just preordered ... : ESchack
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        Thanks for answering all these questions, Klebold. You're helping us. : LoioshDwaggie
        • Nps! : Klebold
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          And breaking the NDA.... ;-). I thought the game was promising when I first played back in November but... : djustifier
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            well, to be fair if the guy from the youtube channel didn't break the NDA I would never have pre-ordered... : Nitrium
            • Me either. : ESchack
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            Inquiry: What aspects have you grown bored with? Bored of Mechanics? Lack of diversity? Huge grind ... : Klebold
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              I would also like to know : JohnnyRey
              • I SAID I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW : JohnnyRey
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              It's a number of things. I think the game gives a great feel to the Star Trek space battles. It's not f... : djustifier
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                those all seem like valid complaints : JohnnyRey
                • I will say that it has promise. Just not sure I'm going to be buying it on day (or month) one. CO burne... : djustifier
    • Chose Race (Even Klingon). : Jonathan
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    My question is if during PvP Starfleet can attack Starfleet and Klingon attack Klingon? : amrbean
    • There is a way to fight within a faction : WhatIsThisFor
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    I predict a 10:1ratio of Starfleet to klingon players : smax
    • Cloaking is pretty damn cool. I love playing stealth classes, but Starfleet has better sounding weapons :... : LoioshDwaggie
    • I think most people will play a bit of both : WhatIsThisFor
  • I'll play both. : WhatIsThisFor
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  We need to compile a list of everyone that is buying this game. : WhatIsThisFor
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    Nitrium, Loiosh, jbury, Klebold, Clay : LoioshDwaggie
    • Hey, I have been in every one of these threads. : amrbean
    • Add me if I like beta next week but from what i am reading and seeing i will fo through with my pre order... : hashd
    • ESchack, Jonathan, amrbean, Hashd : LoioshDwaggie
    • You can add me as well. : ESchack
    • You can probably add me as well. : tboomer2
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      I might be getting this just to help out a non fantasy mmo. : Rauol Duke
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        its even more nerdy than warcraft however. Your social kudos will get shot. : Klebold
        • It's not the nerdiness, I'm just sick of fucking elves and hobbits. It's an mmo, no one is clean of the n... : Rauol Duke
    • I've pre-ordered, I don't know if I'll stay beyond the beta. : freakynipples69
  • I nominate you to do this. : hbalce1
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    I pre-ordered last night. In. : Wolfanoz
    • I'll add you to my list. : WhatIsThisFor
  • I'm very very torn on getting this game. :( : thetangent
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    I'm gonna take the dive too. Even though I already got EVE, This looks like a good one for a few months i... : Sailor of Fortune
    • I'm still holding back to see how open beta goes. I almost pre-ordered, but with only a few days left be... : JuffoWup
  • add me to that list : Unleashed
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  Al this talk got me into the hype damn you shacknews mmo people! : hashd
  • You know what this means: It'll be awful! : LoioshDwaggie
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  quick reserve your captain obvious, major dewsh, etc joke names! : xxiv
  • Cryptic introduced a system where every name is available because it is tied to your account name. Pluses... : Jonathan
  • Captain Birdseye? Hell yeah! : jbury
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    I saw someone pilot the U.S.S. O'Neill by a player called Amanda Carter (samantha carter + amanda tapping... : Klebold
    • But did you decloak and open fire next? : hbalce1
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      i don't know who those people are :/ : xxiv
      • stargate sg1 reference : JuffoWup
  • I pick CaptStern : cptstern
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    Just like in SWG, in STO I'm gonna name my ship the Decade Pidgeon : Sailor of Fortune
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      I am very disappointed that TOR has no space game :( : WhatIsThisFor
      • Hmm, KOTOR 1/2 didn't have it either but the one in SWG was fun but it was repetitive and limited. The fa... : Sailor of Fortune
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  friendly tip - don't equip a red shirt : cap n KRUNCH
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    Hell no, I'm going to play a redshirt, I'm going to roleplay it and throw myself into stupid situations e... : jbury
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      Didn't command officers wear red in ST:TNG? : hbalce1
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        Picard and Riker did, yes - the red shirt thing was only in the original series I think. : ESchack
        • Yup, gold/blue shirts are death unless you're the chief of engineering, medical, or security officer. : one random winner
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    This game is post TNG. Shouldn't red shirts be command? : amrbean
    • They are. : NFXFSX
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    At this point you mean gold shirt. : thetangent
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      Yar's death, so undeserved. : LoioshDwaggie
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        It's alright (she rerolls as Romulan) : jbury
        • That's pretty god-damned funny :) : LoioshDwaggie
    • lol my nerd badge is on suspension for this >:( : cap n KRUNCH
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  If this is indeed a single server game - who is creating Shackfleet? : jbury
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    Clay : hbalce1
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      That's Admiral Clay : LoioshDwaggie
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        More like rear admiral amirite. : hbalce1
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          keep firing assholes! : Delaric
          • Fire Everything! : Sailor of Fortune
          • That's one thing we'll never run out of. : tboomer2
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        How did I get dragged into this? : Clay
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          By your ankles apparently. : hbalce1
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            I'm not up to running another guild so soon after my WoW one. I'll be an officer though. : LoioshDwaggie
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              isn't amrbean the one that offered to run the guild? : JuffoWup
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                All I know is that if I play, I'm not being an officer and I wanted to take the opportunity to chide Clay... : hbalce1
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                  Worst case, if no one takes it up, I'll be a Fleet Commander or whatever. I don't do raiding or attendanc... : LoioshDwaggie
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                    I'm not attacking you, but that is probably the worst attitude possible for a leader. How will you deal w... : hbalce1
                    • You're thinking of a dirty Klingon Battle Fleet. I'm a wussy dognose-style Starfleet Commander. You know, : LoioshDwaggie
• Will I be able to play this game with 45/kbs download speed? : TexasGameJunkie
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  So...close...to...pre-order...damn you shack. : NFXFSX
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    Do it you know you want to play with us! : hashd
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      I have my EVE....oh...the thought of another, faster space game is tempting. : NFXFSX
      • IT IS! : Nitrium
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  One thing i found a bit strange about STO: Naomi Wildman is a dude. A tall, handsome looking dude. I even... : Klebold
  • Have you visited DS9? : WhatIsThisFor
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    lol really? Voyager was my favorite series, im glad they are getting all the lore right lol : JohnnyRey
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      No one liked Voyager. No one. : amrbean
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        Not true. The GF and I both liked it. Not the best Trek series by any means, but not bad. Enterprise was ... : thetangent
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          my workmate likes both voyager and enterprise - maybe she's broke and she's a huge star trek nerd : Nitrium
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            Even Enterprise had it's moments I'll admit. The third season wasn't too shabby. Overall though, it was a... : thetangent
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              I didn't get past the second season - gotta pick it up in my vacations for maximum geekyness. : Nitrium
              • I thought things picked up in the second season, captain archer becomes less proud and turns into a big b... : Klebold
        • Look, don't make it worse for you than it already is. We're going by what amrbean said and that's that. Y... : enyakk
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          I admit that Enterprise could have been so much greater (Where was the damn Romulan War?) but I didn't th... : amrbean
          • hahaha : NFXFSX
          • hahahaha : Nitrium
          • They weren't lost. : not work safe
          • Enterprise would have been vastly improved if it had centered around the Romulan/Earth war. Also, LOL @ J... : thetangent
          • She didn't have a First Officer nagging at her to ask directions? : djustifier
        • saying enterprise is far worse than voyager is like saying a turd sandwich is worse than a moldy sandwich... : Cheeziologist
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          Enterprise had good Story Arcs and really bad Story Arcs. Voyager had mostly meh and bad Episodes and onl... : johnlocks
          • Actually, I'd argue it was the other way around. : thetangent
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        Wow. You are so fucking wrong. It may not have been as good as TNG, but it was damn close. : photonzach
        • it was only close to the high quality of TNG season 1. : acheron
    • oh god. : thewindcriesmary
  • Wait, WHAT? o_O : thetangent
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    Her Memory Alpha page should be a shrine to how FUCKING STUPID Star Trek can be when they mess around wit... : trove
    • how would a woman give birth to that head aside from C-Section? : MamiyaOtaru
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    WHAT : electroly
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      cancelling my preorder : electroly
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        you aren't really going to play this are you? : mwasher
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          Think of all the new wardrobes available! : tboomer2
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            So far electroly and I haven't heard enough about the support/healing ships (science vessels) and how the... : LoioshDwaggie
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              It's more that Science is Support and Engineering is Healing. : Jonathan
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                Except on Ground it's the other way around :/ : Jonathan
                • You're talking sexy to me, Jonathan. I hope you don't mind. : LoioshDwaggie
            • I'm sold as I played Tank Pally. So long as I can face smash I think game will suit me fine. : tboomer2
            • the big thing I'm wondering is if the science buffs work on themselves. I mean, can I function as well (... : JuffoWup
            • I really would like to know more about this. From what Klebold said, the away mission healing sounds dis... : electroly
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  Will we be able to walk around the ships? : Ziz
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    Just bridges and transporter rooms at launch. I know there are some quests that take you inside various ... : WhatIsThisFor
    • Oh awesome. I want to click on LCARs buttons. They better beepbeep at me. : LoioshDwaggie
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      I want a holodeck mission where i have to seduce Troi or something like that. : pimpium
      • Troi from season 1 of TNG. She just got thicker and thicker makeup as time went and by the time they wer... : tboomer2
      • Yeah, I want to live out Barclays fantasies. : atom519
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        the holodeck should basically be an interactive garry's mod with star trek figures imo : electroly
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          That could be really fun with a single server since people could sell their programs on the economy if/wh... : hbalce1
          • basically a mini-second life. which is why it will definitely not happen, i'm sure. haha : electroly
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        Or I want to play Sherlock Holmes with Data on a mission. : pimpium
        • You should be able to play WoW within the Holodeck of ST:O. Think of the cross-branding! The SYNERGIES!... : trove
    • Ah, i liked that about the Elite Force game (RIP CD) was the tour, though wish it'd of been more of the s... : Ziz
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  What's driving me nuts is that now I'm totally excited about playing this (assuming I can) Tuesday. : LoioshDwaggie
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    I been waiting for this game for so long, it seems to close now! : amrbean
    • I wish they had that great internal phaser firing sound effect: http://www.startrekanimated.com/tas_sound... : LoioshDwaggie
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  people excited about this game need to go to champions online's forum and see what's what about Cryptic. : fvariance
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    Plenty of people are reporting that STO is a good game, who cares about Champions. : WhatIsThisFor
    • What matters to me is that Mr. Made-CoX suck (before he left and started up on Champions) isn't involved ... : LoioshDwaggie
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      Like I said, go read the forum. The problem with Champions isn't that it's not a good game (in the early-... : fvariance
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        Actually, it's also not a good game. The combat is terribly boring, the story is uninvolved and the quest... : LoioshDwaggie
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          maybe they've fixed that crap in st:o : Nitrium
          • Here's hoping. Just having the quests split over ship combat and planet adventures is a good start (twice... : LoioshDwaggie
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    I agree with this statement. They seriously don't seem to give a fuck about CO. : atom519
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      their entire future is based on the success of sto. champs at this point is only a liability they got wha... : massdev
      • Which I'm fine with as long as it's a solid game and they continue to support it. I don't want to see ST... : atom519
      • It's a really bad idea to make a me-too MMO when you don't have the chops to innovate which is exactly wh... : LoioshDwaggie
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  did anyone get thier beta codes from amazon : JohnnyRey
  • Not yet :( : WhatIsThisFor
• Heh, I was just looking at the bonuses from the deluxe edition. Number two on the list is worth the extr : hbalce1
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  Yay! I thought I was one of a handful of Shackers interested in STO. I've never played an MMO before,... : RevRaven
  • Everything is instanced. They haven't talked about exploration content very much, and it hasn't been enab... : xxx2xxx
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    prepare for disappointment. Nothing is as cool as it could be in an mmo. : alexthegreat2
    • MMOs remind me a bit of drugs, the first time you try it- its amazing. You spend the rest of the time cha... : Klebold

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  And never again with anyone get a kill with a smoke nade... : Alco23
  • *will : Alco23
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    ive gotten a couple before, including one in a shack game. nobody ever gave me the dick sucking that Khan... : PlanetPerfecto
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      Ah but you don't have proof! Khan and Arcknight are the only ones with smoke nade kills on the server. : Arctic Fox
      • :*( : PlanetPerfecto
  • Meh, wake me up when it's a headshot with a smoke grenade... (read in the voice of the internet seen-it-a... : dfay
• Goddamnit, 26 FF kills!? How can I compete with that? T_T : Cliffzorz
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  What was quote of the night? I forgot... : Alco23
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    Ah yes. "Going down in a blaze of dicksauce" -- gnomish : Arctic Fox
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      you're right, i copied from ER, i think it was blaze : MaverickOrig
      • That's what Khan told me. Makes sense that it was blaze since that is the Bon Jovi lyric. Also now I have... : Arctic Fox
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    "That guy is about to get shot down in dick sauce" -gnomish @me : MaverickOrig
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      It's all love baby! : gnomish
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        Arctic Fox took me out execution style with a pistol, just minutes before. its all good. : MaverickOrig
        • That was one of my crowning moments in between pockets of major lag from my wife watching Netflix. : Arctic Fox
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    something about watching a gecko commercial : .frame
    • oh i guess I missed the dicksauce:) : .frame
  • I think special mention should go to "BUTTFUCKED YO TITS OFF IN YO FACE!" : Orange Pylon
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  None of those are me, those are Archangel. : ArcKnight
  • except the smoke grenade kill. : ArcKnight
  • Oh shit right you are! Sorry Archangel! : Arctic Fox
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    that's cuz u suck! : ass-street
    • That's the bukkake award... :P : Alco23
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  Man, last night I had the auto join window open for 15 minutes and gave up. >:( : chungathebunga
  • haha! I went and played MWLL for 30minutes with the auto-join window running. : MaverickOrig
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  wha?! where's my award? I got something for using the spade. something like "dont bring a gun to a knife ... : MaverickOrig
  • That's the in-game achievements. You get that one for spading/knifing someone. : Arctic Fox
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  Finally, some recognition. :) : TaintedSyringe
  • You were a monster :( : daedraug
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  This is broken I didn't get anything. : mysled
  • that's cuz u suck! : ass-street
  • You get "Female of the night" award. Admittedly, it was only contested between you and Khan... : Alco23
• I have climbed the ranks once again & I'm now in the 4 spot. I have my eyes on you snatchez : goatjc
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  Needs a new goddamn computer award: Y{MrBlarg }Y : mrblarg
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    fucking tablet, I thought caps didn't matter in shacktags as long as they were the same. : mrblarg
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      looks like you were wrong, blarg! : AlexXdude
      • Looks like...he wasn't yellow. : Dschinghis Khan

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  Onboard sound these days does all that and more. And sounds just as good most of the time as most sound c... : YerMothah
  • I wonder if oinboard video will ever get to that point? : baron calamity
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    This isn't entirely true. Onboard sound sucks a fat dick because generally it has horrible shielding so y... : ryuuseki
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      Having always bought top range Gigabyte motherboards and recently moved to onboard sound, I can confirm t... : Broken Canoe
      • My P55 socket 1156 mobo, also from Gigabyte, also has a very solid sound chip. As for performance hogging... : code-e255
      • Ding, if you skimp you will end up paying more! : Vincenoir
    • I just built a system with onboard audio. I have no issues. : ieGod
    • I agree, got the same problem with my ASUS mobo, had to buy a soundcard to get rid of this annoying noise : LordHellMaX
  • If people bother, there's going to be a lot of disagreement with this post. Onboard usually suffers ... : pres589
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    I have never, ever, ever, ever, ever had an issue with ANY Creative sound card. My current X-Fi Platinum ... : zerog83
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      and I'm pretty sure the whole "drivers suck!" thing is because the Vista support was horrible at first. l... : zerog83
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        I may end up looking at the Creative stuff for my next machine build up, I don't know, I don't really lik... : pres589
        • The Creative drivers now also install a lame driver updater. Fucking bloatware. At least one can easily u... : code-e255
      • yup i haven't had a single problem with my X-Fi on Win7, it works great. The drivers are a TON better n... : Shadowdane
      • it goes back to terrible support for Windows 2000 : MamiyaOtaru
    • I just refuse to buy Creative stuff on principle. Terrible company. : marmite
    • You're lucky, I've seen nothing but problems with them due to drivers. They were so bad in fact, that a c... : jingletard
    • I haven't bought anything from Creative since the SoundBlaster 16 for my 486. Since then I've always pur... : TwiLyght
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      My X-Fi card has shit for drivers in Windows 7. The ones they do have don't seem to work that great. Th... : excitebike111
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        Get the DanielK drivers. They fixed my issues. : terath
        • I didn't know he was still doing that. Good to know! : ArB
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        there are 7 drivers right on their website. i have an x-fi titanium and it works flawlessly in 7 x64. : radarman
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          Ditto - No issues with my Fata1ity using Windows 7 x64. : cr00kedview
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            hmm weird. I cleaned out those drivers and installed the DanielK ones and the 5.1 seems to be working co... : excitebike111
            • Don't worry, lots of people have problems with the drivers. : terath
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    I'm more happy with my on-board sound chip (bought a new Intel i5 system a few months ago) than I was wit... : code-e255
    • Related: I've had an Audigy 4 sitting around for quite a while and finally installed it over my RealTek o : mn3m0n1c
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    I'm in this camp as well, but I hear there is a lot of 'noise' on the card due to it being onboard & pick... : jingletard
    • Regarding interference, I think on-board sound chips simply used to suck ass in the past, I don't think i... : code-e255
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    Well I am not about to buy a new motherboard, and I have also always found the quality from onboard sound... : moshman
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      I must add to this, why do you guys always have to do shit like this? Do you really think I am going to b... : moshman
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        I think people feel personally threatened because *they* like onboard, and how dare you suggest they dont... : terath
        • I just hate the noise from onboard cards, the mouse pointer example especially. my poor delicate ears!!!!... : moshman
        • i find good EAX support to be infinitely more useful than 5.1 in games. : radarman
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        If you buy a good motherboard, it will cost the same if not less than a high quality sound card that will... : YerMothah
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          Go buy gold plated monster cables too if you want noticeable sound quality improvement, want to spend $20... : YerMothah
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            what the fuck are you talking about? Stoping changing the issue. I don't need a new motherboard, I don't... : moshman
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              $400 for a motherboard? Someone's logic is feeling threatened if you have to make up that number. $65 ... : YerMothah
              • lol you are completely clueless aren't you. : radarman
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                I just took a random number. why the hell you ever think I should go through the ridiculous step of chan... : moshman
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                  and the backhanded insult regarding monster cables you can just shove up your menstruating vagina : moshman
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                    Oh wow i am insulted. Help guys, I dont know what to do. Ive been beaten on the internet. You want ... : YerMothah
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                      onboard sound is *NOT* inherently inferior : YerMothah
                      • no, not inherently, but no normal motherboards out there offer onboard sound that compares to a good Auze... : yacoub35
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                      it's like talking to a 3 week old baby : moshman
                      • It's not worth responding to him. : terath
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          Sort of. An onboard soundcard is not bad these days true. My Asus Maximus Formula came with a X-Fi daught... : Alco23
          • *now got : Alco23
        • Very wrong. I've tried all sorts of onboard including versions that people claim are "very good." If you ... : terath
        • you're still wrong and still the point stands, I AM NOT GOING TO BUY A NEW FUCKING MOTHERBOARD RIGHT NOW.... : moshman
        • get some ears. : radarman
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          there is no such thing as onboard sound with a good chip. they are all garbage. all of them. just beca... : radarman
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            I don't believe that this is correct. There are some audio chips used on decent Auzentech boards that are... : ieGod
            • rarely, and not on mainstream boards so it's sort of irrelevant to the general experience, and usually th... : yacoub35
          • Incorrect. : YerMothah
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            See my reply above. My Asus motherboard and most from ROG series come with an X-Fi daughter card (this p... : Alco23
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              i own an asus crosshair III, and I have that daughter card. and it is a giant piece of shit. : radarman
              • hahahahah, i dunno why but the way you wrote that made me LOL :) : yacoub35
              • inside of the supremeFX casing, its a realtek onboard chip like every other motherboard, with hacked driv... : radarman
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    I kicked my buggy x-fi to the curb now that my onboard card has optical out spdif : phokz
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      i love how optical out is becoming a catchall solution to shitty sound processing and complete lack of 3d... : radarman
      • it's even getting to the point where mobo manufacturers don't even bother listing what chipset their onbo... : yacoub35
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    Onboard does NOT to Dolby Digital Live. :( : OverloadUT
    • I need this too. Stupid speakers with only stereo analog and DDL surround inputs D: Cheapo Diamond ca... : MamiyaOtaru
• I agree with what ryuuseki says above. Been happy with Asus Xonar series. : NastyNorman
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  moshman: Ignore these idiots: Auzentech is the answer. http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/cards.php ... : LoioshDwaggie
  • They all support Dolby Digital and DTS -Live (5.1/7.1 real-time upmixing), S/P-DIF (Coax) and TOS-Link (o... : LoioshDwaggie
  • I currently have an auzentech, I do love it, but the driver support is abysmal for anything not in their ... : moshman
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  The Xonar HDAV is the only card that will encode signals through 5.1 I currently use it for analog outpu... : stgdz
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    Wrong, see above. : LoioshDwaggie
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      Not really loiosh, the HDAV has a better analog path then the Auzentech. Auzentech crammed a bunch of co... : stgdz
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        No you're still wrong because the Xonar HDAV is most definitely not the only card that can real-time enco... : deject
        • are you talking about a sound source plugged in (optical input) to your sound card, then encoded to DDL/D... : radarman
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    I'm not going to use analogue outputs though, so that's not an issue : moshman
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      what's the issue though? I run analog outs on my Xonar just like you said you wanted. : stgdz
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        Where did he say he wanted analog output? I'm assuming he wants the card to encode Dolby Digital Live for... : Bold
        • oh duh, well then the HDAV slim should be a good route. Also I believe the HDAV's have a better bit stre... : stgdz
      • but I never said that :( : moshman
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    Analog and encode 5.1? Why does it need to encode into 5.1 when you're using analog outputs? Clarify that... : Alco23
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      the 6 channel outputs on sound cards is analog isn't it? but its still proper 5.1. : radarman
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        You are decoding all the input signals/sound and using your DAC to output on the soundcard using analog c : Alco23
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          because it can take any source and encode it to 5.1 and spit it out over the output path, the output path... : stgdz
          • You're wrong. I suspect you are confused. : Arctic Fox
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            You still haven't explained what the benefit of encoding DD/DTS for analog outputs is. You CANNOT use ana... : Alco23
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              it takes a signal that is not 5.1, encodes it to 5.1, and then breaks it out to the 6-channel output like... : radarman
              • Also wrong. It takes a signal that IS 5.1 and DECODES it into separate analog outputs for the different i... : Arctic Fox
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                Let's try a different way of explaining so radarman might understand... So stgdz's audio setup works l : Alco23
                • i don't know about you, but when i turn on DDL/DTS on my soundcard it turns stereo audio into fake surrou... : radarman
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  Asus Xonar. Drivers that work on W7, superb performance. No more needs to be said, best sound card ive ev... : steve_o
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    this is another one I have seen recommended on my quest, thanks! : moshman
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      I have the D2 btw. Great bit of kit :) : steve_o
      • i'm using the xonar ds and the sound is fucking incredible. : anthonybean
  • I have a xonar, the little PCIe one. No complaints, great sound. : zebosausamite
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  I installed a Auzentech X-Fi Forte yesterday and cannot recommend it enough. I had previously been using ... : Blackdawgg
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    Seriously, I spent all last night re-listening to all my music it was that much of an improvement. : Blackdawgg
    • :) : yacoub35
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    i'm just a bit miffed with their support for the older cards. The HDA (=Auzentech) I have now it awesome,... : moshman
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      Asus entered some sort of exclusivity contract with CMI who makes the chips on most of the HDA and older ... : h0cake
      • I see, those bastards. thanks for the info : moshman
      • Bastards :( : LoioshDwaggie
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        you can use some of the xonar drivers with the older auzentech cards : stgdz
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          You can? I have an X-Plosion. Do you have a link? : h0cake
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            That's what I have heard, try downloading the xonar drivers from the asus website run the installer and s... : stgdz
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              Also I think the HT omega/claro drivers may work. : stgdz
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                can someone else try that because I can't be bothered :) : moshman
                • I'm going to go from Vista64 to Win7 tonight, I have an X-Plosion, I'll let you know how things go. : h0cake
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            i have an X-Plosion as well. Is the driverset not good on Win7x64? I am about to build a Win7 box. The ca... : yacoub35
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              it's a little halfhearted, as (which I didn't know) Asus has an exclusivity contract with CMI who made th... : moshman
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                so what's the recommendation for a new Win7 build that needs to have DTS/DDL/high quality sound/stability... : yacoub35
                • it seems the consensus is either the Asus Xonar HDAV or an auzentech prelude (or whatever the follow up t... : moshman
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  Auzentech. I sell them often and they are amazing. : sheepraper
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    but what about the poor sheep :( : moshman
    • I keep them for myself. They enter but they may never leave. : sheepraper
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  I have an Auzentech Xplosion as well, and I was going to put it into my new Win7 machine. Are most people... : Bold
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    it ranges from no sound, to SCP (snap, crackle pop) to working well. I get SCP if windows has been runni... : moshman
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      It looks like the newer cards have a ton of driver problems as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ... : Bold
      • It works fine in 7. It is usually the user. That is an outdated card, however. : sheepraper
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  I tested my current on board, some realtek thing, against my X-FI. For analog outs the X-FI sounds a bit ... : zeejay
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    The digital out sounds exactly same no matter what, as it should. Actually much of the quality difference... : yacoub35
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      X-Fi is the SAME EXACT CHIP as the audigy. : YerMothah
      • And the "cpu cycles saved" from not having an onboard chip is bullshit. The drivers suck up more power th... : YerMothah
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        I missed where he said his current board runs the same exact chip. I thought he said he has an X-Fi card ... : yacoub35
        • my post was kind of off topic to your discussion, I also did not have my coffee today so I am very crabby... : YerMothah
      • Huh, no it's not. : aggressor
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  I'm looking at a Xonar DS, it's $50, does DTS but not DDL. Doesn't matter to me though, since I'm just p... : stoned wallaby crop circle
  • It does DTS Interactive which is DTS's version of DD Live, and Newegg has it for $40 (with rebate). :D ... : mn3m0n1c
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  I am totally buying one of these soon, friend loves his and it has all I want. Pci-e too! : node
  • http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Auzentech-X-Fi-Forte-71-Low-Profile-PCI-Express-Sound-Card-(Inc-Full-heigh... : node
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  slight hi-jack: how come so many people are willing to overlook the difference eax 5.0 makes in the wa... : radarman
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    Because EAX doesn't exist in Vista or Seven. : LoioshDwaggie
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      except that it uh... does now. : radarman
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        Except that it, uh, does not. Even Creative has abandoned EAX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental... : LoioshDwaggie
        • uh, gnurgh, guh guh, uh wow, gnuuurgh : moshman
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          weather or not is has been abandoned going forward is irrelevant to the fact that it works right now with... : radarman
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            weather? :( : radarman
            • It's gonna rain! : h0cake
          • It doesn't support EAX, period. Creative has a work-around where they catch EAX commands (for those old... : LoioshDwaggie
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    Because many modern games don't even use EAX (or use OpenAL instead for compatibility). Some games even h... : mn3m0n1c
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      asus cards simulate eax 2, not 5. : radarman
      • No, they support EAX2 in hardware and simulate 5. From techreport's article: "DS3D GX presents the Xona... : h0cake
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    A3D or nothing. =( : DinK
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      I prefer Diamond Monster Sound. : zipr
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        I had a Monster Sound MX300. It was incredible. I miss A3D 2.0. Fucking Creative. : h0cake
        • ditto. at the time it blew away the Creative offerings. : yacoub35
    • We surpassed A3Ds feature set already. : Fred Garvin
  • Because EAX 5.64.463 is almost pointless, while the Auzentech cards not only have the basic EAXs, they al... : yacoub35
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  Basically, from reading this thread. I dont think anyone knows what the fuck about sound cards. other the... : chilln
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    Agreed. After doing a lot of reading on other sites this morning, EVERY card has its share of users who c... : Bold
    • that pairing issue with nvidia mobos is solved now *apparently*, just make sure to update your bios : moshman
  • yeah, seems they all suck in some way : moshman
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  HT Omega Claro is really nice but pricey http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=... : grabbie
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    yeah, not looking on spending that much. but thanks! : moshman
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      how much are you looking to spend? The striker model is excellent alternative for 90 bucks : grabbie
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        I've looked and can't find a single review on the entire internet for that card though : kevp
        • I've installed them into two built PCs with no problems at all and no complaints from it's users. I foun... : grabbie
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  Onboard optical out is the old but still awesome hotness in sound cards. The good news is that if your mo... : noxiousgg
  • we've had this discussion. : moshman
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    optical out: so i can bring its crappy sound to my speakers via LOSSLESS OPTICAL WIRING! AWW YEA AMERICA : yacoub35
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      If you buy a crappy mobo you'll get crappy sound. As with anything, you get what you pay for, more or les... : noxiousgg
      • show me a good motherboard without crappy sound on it. : radarman
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        Do a lot of mobos ENcode Dolby Digital now? Sure, they'll DEcode digital streams and/or pass-through a DD... : Bold
        • Yup, it's becoming more common. About the only difference are that the dedicated cards do it in hardware ... : LoioshDwaggie
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          All the better GigaByte boards do. Look for the RealTek ALC889A chip, which has built-in DDL. : mn3m0n1c
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            Hmm, looks like my new Gigabyte mobo does NOT have DDL. I chose... poorly. : Bold
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              Well, it doesn't help that GigaByte makes 47 variants of most mobos. :( if it says (at least) UD4 somewhe... : mn3m0n1c
              • UD3. :-( : Bold
          • annnd just found out the board i ordered has the ALC889, no A. guess I'll go with my Auzentech, if the dr... : yacoub35
    • I believe that if you use optical out then your soundcard really doesn't have much to do with the sound q... : zipr
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      It's not even lossless ;). For lossless you need to go HDMI. : Alco23
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        Incorrect. A digital audio signal is a digital audio signal. If you're playing a video with DD 5.1 audio ... : mn3m0n1c
        • However, optical output cannot support the lossless formats you mentioned above. Optical out supports DTS... : Alco23
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    optical out to what though? YOu have a reciever with surround speakers at your computer desk? : kevp
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      Logitech z5500. : noxiousgg
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        those should be good enough to tell the difference between onboard junk and a decent soundcard : yacoub35
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          Indeed. And therefore conversely, they're good enough to demonstrate where there is no discernsble differ... : noxiousgg
          • no, that's when audiophiles switch to blaming your ears! :D : yacoub35
  • This is true as far as it goes. You won't get system noise using the digital output of your onboard audio... : mn3m0n1c
  • I guess if these were the days before HDMI and multichannel PCM. Optical and Coax are for old people. : DarkWolf5
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  For what it's worth I've yet to hear anything top my Auzentech X-Meridian's sound quality and it is about... : dengar65
  • the Auzentech cards sound great, it's the drivers that are apparently the issue on Win7. =\ : yacoub35

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  Good! Maybe I should get around to playing this copy of Bioshock I've had for a year and a half now. : ArcKnight
  • YOU SHOULD! : RikiTiki2
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  Yeah I dunno why they ever changed it, clearly Irrational was going to be a flagship studio for 2K, and f... : SpaecKow
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    Not that they're not sellouts or anything, Ken Levine is a company man through and through. : SpaecKow
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      Sellouts? How so? : ArcKnight
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        Well Bioshock is like System Shock 2 except with a lot of dumb baggage to make it "accessible to a wider ... : SpaecKow
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          And that makes them sellouts how again? : ArcKnight
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            I guess it doesn't, if there's no such thing as a sellout. But a team that sabotages their gameplay so th... : SpaecKow
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              Yeah, I'm sure they're just rolling in the cash right now, with junior designers fighting over spots to p... : eyetyrant248
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                Is your point that you have to make shitty games to make money? Cause I think that's a bad point and not ... : SpaecKow
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                  Plenty of people loved Bioshock, which is why it's getting a very expensive sequel. I loved System Shock... : eyetyrant248
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                    I really don't see it being a binary take it or leave it thing. And just to be clear, the end goal here i... : SpaecKow
                    • The people funding the project ultimately make the rules. If 2K tells them to change something, they HAV... : eyetyrant248
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                To be honest, I'd sell out. MONEY. IT is what makes the world go 'round! Not love, not pride, not even go... : felicia
                • not that I haven't sold out NIGHTLY, amirite guys?! lol sluts!? : felicia
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                  But I hate money, because, you see, I'm a socialist. : SpaecKow
                  • (I'm the B. Hussein Obama of video games) : SpaecKow
            • as opposed to making a game that nobody buys and pushing out some low budget titles to stay afloat before... : mikecyb
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              If you're making a game and you can make changes that will result in more people enjoying your game, you ... : J4NUS
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                Because pleasing as many people as possible is not a good in of itself. : SpaecKow
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                  As far as I'm concerned, that's pretty much the highest goal of games. Lots of fun for lots of people. : J4NUS
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                    That said, of course you need a coherent vision, and you shouldn't make every decision in favor of pander : J4NUS
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                      and you shouldn't make every decision in favor of pandering to the lowest common denominator just because : SpaecKow
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                        I'm actually playing Bioshock for the very first time (I think I'm about halfway through), and I complete... : J4NUS
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                          Yeah don't invest too much in that "properly hardcore" phrase, that's not something I said, that's someth... : SpaecKow
                          • I'm playing it on Hard, and I'm not having trouble, but I die sometimes, and I find myself low on ammo so... : J4NUS
            • Bioshock is frankly okay with me because what they compromised on the gameplay mechanics side they made u... : DeBurgo
        • What does this have to do with being sellouts? : J4NUS
        • you shut your damn filthy whore mouth : CoRDS
• beginning of the liquidation! : multisync
• Irrational the first time they changed it. : Sailor of Fortune
• Awesome news. Shouldn't have changed it in the first place though. : Iazu
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  Now Microsoft needs to bring back Ensemble Studios. Stupid fuckers. : Godhatesfatpeople
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    I still can't believe they did that to them. Gaming travesty of decade. It's hard to believe it happened ... : pyide
    • Yup. One of the bigger recent fuck-ups MS was responsible for. : Godhatesfatpeople

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• That bitch is craaaaaazzzzzzy : Godhatesfatpeople
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  attn: Phil http://twitpic.com/p0i7r : opengl128
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    how'd she get her feet that way around? and wtf, why is only one tanned. : marmite
    • Is this post serious? She's showering with a friend. : DJ Clipdat
    • ahahaha you fool! : voodooraze
  • lol at the comment "You can't fool me. This is really a just a picture of Megan Fox washing her hands... : marmite
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    Indeed. Also http://www.heyolivia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/dsc01242.jpg I'm not sure if I coul... : Phil
    • You're doing it wrong. : Ride-My-Rocket
• her whole twitpic stream is one of the few reasons I am glad twitter was invented : Patch-e
• Hoverboards! : ant_hillbilly
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  she needs to get over this camwhore stage and just start sucking asperger dicks : [fry]
  • I'll volunteer mine for her to start on. : trOmblyj
  • lol : Godhatesfatpeople
  • unnnggggghhh *can't look u in the eye* : boring gegtik
  • why? it gets her a cushy job and $ : RikiTiki2
  • ASSBURGER. : Fred Garvin
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    http://www.shacknews.com/search.x?type=comments&terms=asperger&cs_user=[fry]&cs_parentauthor=&s_type=all : owly
    • hahahaha. Wow, [fry]. : photonzach
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  WOW! My pants just got really tight! Thanks for the Birthday present! : mikecyb
  • I love internet comments so much : mikecyb
  • Happy Birthday Mikey Cyber! : trOmblyj
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    hah, happy birthday mike : Dunwich
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      it is from the commments : pyrogen
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        he has a birthday at some point, so now i'm covered. exactly : Dunwich
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          it was two weeks ago you insensitive clod! : mikecyb
          • two weeks is still an acceptable margin of error, everyone knows that! : Dunwich
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  fuck she makes me feel dead inside. because of her hotness. she's also an attention whore but that's ok. ... : vile
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    she is a total attention whore, but somehow that just makes her hotter :| : aethyr
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      maybe for you. I think it's annoying, I'll pass. : kainen1
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        I'm normally turned off by it, but for her she knows she is hot and uses that against me. : aethyr
        • I'm the same way. I tolerate it from Olivia, but not from anyone else. : fishbone
        • She uses it for money. : CrustaR
• Leg + Boot = http://twitpic.com/sk3xf : DrZettl
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  Sex tape in the making? http://twitpic.com/sdfxe : Fred Garvin
  • Okay, forget those 2 in a sex tape. THESE two need to get it on: http://twitpic.com/sddj5 : Fred Garvin
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    Here is a better picture http://twitpic.com/sddms : melkore
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      I need hotter friends... This never happens at our parties... : Clasifyd
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        you need to be a chick : RikiTiki2
        • Possibly. I feel like I'd get more boob as a chick, but less snatch. I don't know if I'm prepared to giv... : Clasifyd
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  is that a coke mirror : oHnOES
  • Her thighs look firm enough to do coke off of without missing much. : Omning
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  Can't believe she's dating the new Captain Kirk. : mechanicalgrape
  • Less Captain Kirk, more Captain Immy :( : aggressor
  • so that's where the diamond earrings and "love" comes from. grats to James T Kirk though. I wonder how ... : Downforce
• She is definitely getting paid to use that Netbook. : Ellissd
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  Her fucking attention whore attitude completely turns me off : OverloadUT
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    She's the kind of girl I could be fuck buddies with, but never seriously date. : one random winner
    • well she wouldn't seriously be dating YOU anyway... : Downforce
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      I couldn't even do that. I mean, she does absolutely nothing for me. She's hot, but that whole "I know ho... : OverloadUT
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        I have a feeling she's both A) a lot smarter than she tries to make everyone think and B) has some daddy ... : one random winner
        • I bet your feelings are spot on : OverloadUT
  • she totally is but who cares. I don't know her personally and she just exploits her fan base for fame an... : grabbie
  • yeah no way I'd stick my dick in her attention loving ass. : voodooraze
• Fair well and ado to your fair rickets ladies... : massdev
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  That people care makes me want to stab myself... or maybe stab the people who care. One would bring cessa... : noxiousgg
  • i read this as paul giamatii's character from sideways. : Silent Wolf
  • Define care? She's fucking hot, and what else is there to do on the internet besides look at hot chicks? : aggressor
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  I was commenting on my wife's gap last night and told her that if she ever lost it, I would make her get ... : edgewise
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    what did she say? : ass-street
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      "You can lipo my thighs when you can see your dick without bending over and using a mirror." : RomSteady
      • This is a depressing subthread. : KxRook
    • she laughed. Truth be told, if she ever got heavy enough to lose the gap, she'd be more pissed about it t... : edgewise
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    Eh, I thought the Shack hated gap. : ShekkyBoy
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      Where'd you get that idea? Gap is practically worshiped around here if you couldn't tell by this thread. ... : Psigun
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        Whenever we had nws picture threads, people would point out a woman's thinness by posting gap so I though... : ShekkyBoy
        • The shack desires nearly all women that can be found attractive by some one, including chicks with dicks : one random winner
        • You don't need to be waif thin to have gap. : Fred Garvin
  • pics of your wife's gap : zerog83
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  Mind the gap! : zuga
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    I don't mind it at all! : trOmblyj
    • Nobody does. : umcpwintermute
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  http://twitter.com/illneverusethis/status/7528422096 : Phil
  • LOLOLOL : Mrc32
  • If she ever does, I'm giving you full credit. : umcpwintermute
  • hahahah wtf : ass-street
  • jesus lol : retarded talking dinosaur
  • ALL ROOK SAM! : melkore
  • haha : Godhatesfatpeople
  • This made my Friday. Time for beer. : paroxym
  • Glorious! : grover69
  • hahahahahaha : Wolfanoz
  • haha you win! : Shadowdane
  • hahaha : bolneze
• what a t's : vx2o
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  I like her, and I think she's hot, but the title of her new book pisses me off. It's called, "Suck It... : jason bergman
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    She's a faux geek, and it's becoming trendy. : one random winner
    • It's the coolest thing since cool! : Zollington
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    she's definitely a geek man, she may be hot but she knows wtf she's talking about and you can tell she's ... : Silent Wolf
    • she does? she doesn't know shit about video games for instance she just rides the wave of nerd boners al... : kainen1
    • That or she knows who her audience is, and is pretty good at pranking them into thinking they have a chan... : heartsauce
    • oh baloney. the only thing separating her and GWB in the knowledgable-at-their-job category is that she ... : proclone1
  • well hollywood can be used as an adjective to mean artificial or fake : alexthegreat2
  • Hollywood geek? lol : Godhatesfatpeople
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    I agree. I watched her on late night talk show, and it was pretty apparent she doesn't play games at all... : atom519
    • i'd let her play with my cock. : metalremains
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      she found her niche and I guess I can't fault her for that : mikecyb
      • dry humping a fish for your niche means your shtick is coming to a close. still hot though, but she over... : Downforce
  • She plays a geek on TV : OverloadUT
  • she's the last person on the hipster chart : RikiTiki2
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    I don't think the term "geek" has really survived the past decade with its meaning intact. I think it wou... : DeBurgo
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      but it's gnarly, dude! : RikiTiki2
      • Righteous!!! : Zollington
      • Doesn't gnarly mean gross/nasty now? : ArcKnight
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        wazzaaaaaa : mikecyb
        • aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa : ArcKnight
      • Heavy, man. : photonzach
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    She pisses me off. So hard. She has no idea what it's like to spend dark nights in her room playing games... : felicia
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      I don't think I have ever smelled game wrappings that is kind of weird, felicia : mikecyb
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        Not so much the wrappings as opening up the game and smelling the manual. :( : felicia
        • I know what you are talking about. I smelled that smell today with Bayonetta! : mwasher
      • You don't intentionally inhale that aroma that comes from a newly opened electronic product? You are b... : ArcKnight
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        I'd like to think that one isn't considered a nerd based on whether or not they smell game wrappings. ... : Zollington
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          Although I do notice the smell of a new game. :) : Zollington
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            I notice the smell I guess but I don't put much thought into it. I am just picturing her laying in a bed : mikecyb
            • I bet Ajax has some funny stories about that. : ArcKnight
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              You have just created a new fetish on the internet. Congratulations! : Zollington
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                There's no such thing as a new Internet fetish. : Kentor
                • silly me, i forgot about that golden rule. : Zollington
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              It's sad because my library is mostly digital these days: http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/cheinara : felicia
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                Mother of god. what a brilliant site : Zollington
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                  I have a problem, I'm addicted to buying games. If I have it on 360, I'll usually still buy it on Steam. : felicia
                  • I'm definitely getting there. I've got 42 games on my steam and I've only played three. : Zollington
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                omg totally added you as a friend : mikecyb
                • OMG BFF : felicia
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                  your name should really be Comic Sans Mini : felicia
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                    and yours should be giant buttocks >:( haha high five! : mikecyb
                    • I have one of the best Steam aliases, I refuse to change it to a more realistic name : felicia
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                S'up, Steam addict buddy: http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/rice-rocketeer : Rice-Rocketeer
                • High five! : felicia
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                HOLY SHIT, this site is awesome. Also, I cried a little: http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/agrona I ha... : Agrona
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                  oh wait, there's some sort of goofy bug there. That's just every game. http://beta.steamcalculator.com/... : Agrona
                  • Here: http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/76561197992668512 : Kentor
    • to be fair, i haven't done any of these things in about ten years. : gokart.
    • Preach on sista! : edge198
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      Jealous. Meow : nudder
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        You have a small dick. Woof. : felicia
        • Achuuta.... bakapundesss ching palamoolay. : Zollington
• yeah. damn hot but still annoying : hamachi
• She's annoying as fuck. I can't watch AOTS simply because all she does is sit & make retarded comments / ... : jingletard
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  if we ever had sex, i'd finish and start crying. a happy cry, though. : industro
  • noted : kallanta
• I want to stuff my face in her snatch! : voodooraze
• i really like this pic....and her : flasher 907
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  I'm glad you guys all hate her. More for me! : TheMonkeyWench
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    I'll fight you for her! : trOmblyj
    • Not if I have anything to say about it! It's time for a three-way! The fighting kind! : Zollington
• damn i love this hot bitch : CoRDS