Star Wars: The Old Republic: The 20-Minute GamesCom Walkthrough

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  The Jedi combat looks really weak. I've personally gotten to the point where I'm tired of games taking Je... : AurienTitus
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    totally agree...lightsabers should never be toned down. they need a mechanic that assures hitting a rand... : Rape.Farm
    • It would've been an amazing move to put in Jedi Outcast style saber wielding. Stats could still affect ho... : spacerumsfield
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  combat much more exciting than other mmo?? 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 1 1 2 3 1 2 3 <<< mmo combat = yawwwwwwwwwww... : Frush81
  • You're confusing "exciting" with "involved." KOTOR's combat didn't really detract from the game and th... : erikman619
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  The sith warrior combat seemed to move a grass growing pace. I thought they were moving that slowly to ta... : Endach
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    I assume you're not older than 11. I used to talk about G.I. joe and Spawn toys like that. : Ksey17
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      Wow.. You are a douche bag. I don't know what else to say when faced with such inane and blatant stupidit... : Endach
      • Yup he's 11. : MechBFP
      • I'll grant you that I am a douchebag, but there is nothing stupid, blatant or not, about what I said. Tha... : Ksey17
  • I see your point, but I'm still thrilled because I love MMOs but hate grinding a mob for 1 minute while p... : mxcl
  • Yup, I agree with you that this would indeed be pretty cool and more realistic (read immersive). And for ... : Don Soleone

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  Bioware hasn't announced whether there will be a subscription yet, but with EA at the helm, it's almost g... : kwperley
  • Exactly ^^ : tfsbrian
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    What else would it be? Micro-transaction? Guild Wars Model? There are only so many pricing models when... : TheGamer11
    • They should go with GuildWars model, because that game has my undying loyalty - I'm going to ignore all t... : tehwalrus
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  Devil's Advocate - the MMO model could mean a constant flow of new content. There's enough people on here... : Schnapple
  • no dice. ill cheerfully BUY content which i then OWN and can play at any time in the future whether or no... : radio_babylon
• It's like super coop. I love kotor, so if they keep it updated with fresh content it's totally worth it t... : uncle slappy
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  I'm hoping we might start to see the new era of gaming, where it is a monthly cost but they are always ad... : mxcl
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    "alone" isnt the same as "lonely," i hope youre aware? and if they ARE the same in your mind... well, ... : radio_babylon
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      So you never go to the theatre or the pub? Some entertainment is costly and only gives you happy memories... : mxcl
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        i havent had a drink outside the home in 15 years. too goddamn expensive. i cant see the sense in buying ... : radio_babylon
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          I tend to do a bit of both, but never turn down a little living for the moment. : mxcl
          • im merely postponing my "living for the moment"... ill be doing plenty of it when i retire in the next 5 ... : radio_babylon
    • Well I put "lonely" in quotes as I couldn't think up how I really feel about it. It's deep and complicate... : mxcl

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  I dig the fact that the devs are pushing this as a story-driven MMO vs standard "go kill X rats". Has ... : vertdang
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    SOE created the best MMO to date (SWG). : spacerumsfield
    • Yeah, they created it, too bad they didn't know enough to leave it the hell alone before they turned it i... : kwperley

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• Models could use a little work? Explain. : Navy Spitfire
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  Don't forget, in this timeperiod that cortosis ore (read: lightsaber resistant) is fairly common, thus wo... : vertdang
  • So how come the Sith character has to hit these worm-like creatures 3-4 times until they die? Do they als... : Lukiopimp
• Endgame sucks. Someone needs to figure out how to make the game not end. Like the endgame is find an NPC ... : mxcl

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  It may not look that good but sure as hell looks better than WoW : Tchest
  • I disagree. Screenshots look better but the animations in the video are terrible. Blizzard is known for... : qsylvr
  • It does not , unless you mean slightly higher polycount or texture resolution. But the actual quality of ... : imperator
  • Giving the benefit of the doubt that its still early in the game, the environments looked well done. Char... : TheGamer11
• WoW looks a lot worse dude. : mxcl

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• theyre pretty mediocre. but they arent bad : jarek99
• yeah, just when i was getting comfortable with the art style (hated it at first), these animations show t... : waxthirteen
• This game looks worse ingame. I was pretty hyped too. : Techy007
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  Yikes. I didn't care for the look/proportions of the characters, but I would overlook it if everything e... : Evan_C
  • yes it reminds me of WoW's humans...decent combat animations but running/walking looks like the character... : Rape.Farm
• I'm really surprised so many people actually like this this art style, especially on the characters. Why ... : pyide
• The worst animation was definitely the running. The smuggler especially looked like he was retarded. W... : mxcl

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• Exactly my thought. Most of the time I don't even read quest texts at all, maybe just skim through to the... : Lukiopimp
• Other MMOs have non interactive badly written dialogue that doesn't effect the quests you are on. So yeah... : mxcl

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• I'd also like to know what they do in situations like that. : AgentPothead
• kinda like the loot system in other MMOs? imagine the options would be: leader of the group decides, maj... : deviantpaul
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  Ya, good question. Also, hopefully they're smart enough to put short time limits or something on the con... : Rape.Farm
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    I n the video you can see the blue ball in the conversation count down, I assumed that was the choice tim... : mordaken
    • Didn't notice that...though I can still imagine some conversations having 5-6 choices and being minutes l... : Rape.Farm
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  Its an NPC companion not another player. : BorenKets123
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    That still leaves the question of who decides if there is a group party. : Navy Spitfire
    • No, it doesn't. In that particular scenario there are 2 agents, the Sith Warrior and the BH. The BH is th... : BorenKets123
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    Huh? Both the Sith warrior and the bounty hunter were players. : Arceihn
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      Yeah, the guy does say "they grouped up". my post probably should have had a "?" : BorenKets123
      • Fair enough. I do remember BioWare talking about NPC companions, come to think of it - I wonder if that w... : Arceihn
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  Okay, are all you people deaf and/or blind? Watch the video again. One player answers some dialogue opti... : MechBFP
  • Quite, did everyone else play the videos at 3-speed or something? : mxcl
• They could actually role play. Outlandish, I know. : prokat
• Easy solution: Don't join PUGs in ToR : Lukiopimp

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• SWG was great because it was a buggy piece of shit that allowed all sorts of exploits? ok... : Angrakhan
• The game looks great and your comment is ridiculous. Ignored! : mxcl

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• Wow, this post really added to the discussion didn't it? Please take your lye back to the forum you came... : Lightzout
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  He has a point. I watched this video days ago. It was pretty significant news for a high profile mmo, b... : Inarion
  • Well Shack was actually at BlizzCon covering it. If you're expending travel budget on going to an event, ... : Chris Remo
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  Wake us when this gets a tenth of the players ANY Blizzard game has gotten in the last decade. : critch
  • what player? They haven't released a game in the last decade. Don't bother rebutting what I have said. I'... : Ksey17
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    This game is likely to see over a million subscriptions, if not more. If AoC can pull ~750,000 player... : kwperley
    • QFT^^ I estimate 2 million subs give or take within 12 months of launch. That is, unless Bioware compl... : Savoy2001
    • "there have to be more Star Wars fans than any other property, except maybe Star Trek or Tolkein." And... : spacerumsfield

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  Not to tell you what you should and shouldn't play, but if you're not interested in the story of this gam... : kwperley
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    I'm not sure about him, but I generally level multiple characters up (maybe not all at the same time). A... : mobab
    • Well from what I recall, the story changes based on what actions you take, so i'd think it'd have more, n... : kwperley
• I like the idea of story but the character models and dialogue here dont seem to be worth it. Strikes me ... : BorenKets123
• Good gods, I'm sure you can skip the cut scenes. As much as I've heard "story, story, story" on this game... : DarthStank

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• Mediocre but fun. I think I'll take one of each, thanks. : tehwalrus
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  Truth. Bioware games are great fun but man are they some stinkers on the technical side. I'm a bit worrie... : natepalm
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    Too the contrary of what everyone is say, I agree. These videos actually made me more interested than I w... : Ksey17
    • *what everyone is saying... *growing more interested... *looks... I must be retarded today. That's... : Ksey17

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• Thanks, that's convenient. : fffortune

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• Ya because dying and losing all your equipment and then having to grind for 20 hours to get it back, to j... : MechBFP

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  also who the fuck is gonna want to be a smuggler when you can be a sith warrior : JohnsonBrown
  • smuggler sounds awesome, so add me to the "who the fuck is gonna want to be a smuggler" list. : tfsbrian

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• The combat is a major portion of any MMO... if people don't care for it, the other aspects are unlikely t... : Evan_C

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• did you play KoTOR? : spaceyme

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• cry more. : GrimmyD