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  Stream starts in 4 hours. Can't wait! : pancake humper
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    Do you think there will be an official apology to you or myself about the beta shenanigans? : abrasion
    • No. : pancake humper
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    did you get the DTV or internet stream? : oHnOES
    • Internet : pancake humper
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    Did you think $31 was a fair price? It seemed really high to me. : Grumbeld
    • $39.95 I will resell the pet for at least $40. : pancake humper
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  No way dude sry : abrasion
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    Just because your "No Starcraft2 in 2009" bubble was burst, don't pop mine. :( They didn't say Diablo3 : DM7
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      Don't quote me on this but I could've sworn they basically said at one point "SC2 well before Diablo 3" -... : abrasion
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        Yeah that's around the date I predicted in the shacknews Diablo 3 poll. 12/22/10 was my pick. : DM7
        • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=18158668#itemanchor_18158668 : gia-
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      They didn't say Diablo3 wasn't being released in 2009 but they did say they were aiming for 2010. : razlebol
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        Since when has Blizzard hit a year they were aiming for? : asylumn
        • Well there is no reason why they couldn't doing it. Now they say 2011, do you think it still won't hit th... : razlebol
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  next year : CrustaR
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    Nope : ateam311
    • the year after next year : CrustaR
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  haha did you see that gameplay vid this week? looked pretty rough : fathertime
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    ROUGH? WHAT?! It looks amazing : pancake humper
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      What he meant is rough on all of our schedules because it's going to be so fucking hard to not quit our j... : ateam311
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        truth. I am so fucked when that game comes out. : pancake humper
        • What am I going to do for money?? : The Grolar Bear
    • I wish you could zoom in so much that you could play it as an FPS. : kramweil
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    There was a D3 gameplay vid released this week? : Wadmaasi
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      Shaky cam, no sound, from GamesCom. Up on gametrailers.com : pancake humper
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        Oh that thing, yeah. It was all of 10 seconds or so, and people were saying, "Cleric?" "No male sorcerer... : Wadmaasi
        • There are quite a few clips, a lot more than 10 seconds. None of it is all that interesting though, just ... : Zek
• If they announced Diablo 3 was releasing this year, the city of Anaheim would spontaneously explode in a ... : das_runt
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  Probably another fuckin WoW expansion : TastyWheat
  • Yeah, it'd be a shame if they kept making content for the most popular MMO ever. pshaw! : action wombmate
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  Probably announcement of their new MMO, which I'm guessing will be 2012. : Zek
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    There is not going to be a single thing about the new MMO announced. Why would you think this? : pancake humper
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      Because they announced WoW way way in advance of its release? : Zek
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        But they didn't have an MMO out at the time. Anything they announce now could conceivably cut into WoW s... : asylumn
        • That's an awfully long time to hold off. They could say 2012 explicitly if they were concerned about it. ... : Zek
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          I don't think anyone is going to hold off on WoW because they have a new mmo coming in like 4 years. : DogDharma
          • And this is Blizzard we're talking about, so it might even be 5-6 years. You could conceivably do everyth... : The Grolar Bear
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          They won't announce a new MMO until someone else does, probably CCP. They will wait until they've polishe... : das_runt
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            CCP has announced and shown their next one, it also doesn't affect Blizzard at all. EVE is not competing ... : derelict515
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              If Blizzard loses 90% of it's player base, they will still have double what any other MMO has for subscri... : pancake humper
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                Keep in mind that WoW's lifespan is already pretty abnormal for an MMO. 5 years is a long time - pretty m... : Zek
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                  They just released a new EQ1 expansion. Life span of World of Warcraft is not typical of a MMO. There are... : pancake humper
                  • how many people do you think would kill themselves if WoW shut down tomorrow for good : electroly
                • It's abnormal lifespan is a result of the abnormal subscriber numbers though. If they still have 8 millio... : derelict515
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                  lol, there are tons of MMOGs that surpass the 5 year mark. Go look, I bet you can find at least 5 within ... : ateam311
                  • I think he mean without being replaced by a successor or having the player base dwindle down to a sustain... : action wombmate
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              I didn't mean Dust 514 but rather the World of Darkness MMO they are most likely developing after they ac... : das_runt
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                Ah, well I'm not sure they'll compete quite as head on (WoD is maybe more mature/hardcore targetted, much... : derelict515
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                  Yeah, I think WoD could be really cool. I hope it is! : das_runt
                  • People would probably be all into vampire shit at the moment because of Twilight and True Blood, too. : action wombmate
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  http://kotaku.com/5342365/stuff-you-can-buy-at-blizzcon/gallery/ I want number 8! : losimagic
  • 1 and 15 for me. I'd totally rock that bag. : razlebol
• I bet they announce another Diablo class. : pun][sher
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  Wishful thinking. I can't stand Starcraft and would much rather see Diablo come out sooner. : jingletard
  • I think the single player experience will be much improved in SC2, but I feel pretty much the same way yo... : FlatlineDixay
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  No the big announcement is Cataclysm. The New WoW expansion that revamps the original world and adds 5 m... : Crimsonbeak
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    ^^^This. That will be the only big announcement (unless they announce the SC2 beta start date). : byorn
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      they might do BOTH They do have completely independent teams working on this stuff in totally differen... : FlatlineDixay
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        What if they announce Cataclysm, SC2 Beta, goal for Diablo 3, and the new MMO. *Head explodes* : Chod
        • Then the earth would implode and we would all die. : FlatlineDixay
        • Obama's working so hard to lower the unemployment rate and Blizzard's going to mess it all up. : The Grolar Bear
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    Do we know anything about Cataclysm yet? : dextius
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      (other than it was an awesome Homeworld game?) : dextius
      • Yessssssssss : Link.
    • Nope, even that name came along with all the other rumors. : Zek
  • Hopefully due to the leak they will pull some other shit out of the hat : Birchman
  • Cataclysm CONFIRMED. I've seen pics : Robotic Puppy Eater
• Any RSS feeds for the news? I'm at work and it would be nice if there was a quick list of updates somewh... : paulatreus
• the diablo 3 announcement last year is all i need for a few years, i don't care about anything else they ... : vov1n
• Without the new BNet? : capt tripps
• They delayed SC2 because of the new B.NET not being ready for this year... D3 will use the new B.NET... I... : LordHellMaX
• 3d sidescrolling Lost Vikings remake, ala BC: Rearmed. i can dream can't i? : o0JediBeavis0o
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  New Diablo 3 Class Announced: The Rainbow Titan! Featuring skills such as Hammer Of Bob Ross and Crayola ... : vile
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    This actually sounds pretty awesome. Imagine slaughtering zombies with happy little trees. : Adm.Snackbar
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      Yeah. After I wrote it I was like "wait.... I need to design video games." : vile
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        Could do a whole Okami painting mechanic there. : Rotten Deadite
        • You'd have a "Happy Accident" skill that kills everyone on screen with colourful diarrhea exploding from ... : DrZettl
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  Diablo III class leaked on the official website (only the Korean subsection): Monk http://img.photobuc... : gia-
  • Why doesn't the wizard have a pointy hat with moons and stars on it? : Grumbeld
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    http://twitpic.com/eq4yn : NukemFornever
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      Nice... 3 dudes on each screen :) : Grumbeld
      • Yes, that clearly doesn't show a Monk. Maybe they unlock it later! : FlatlineDixay
    • OH FUCK I JUST CAME SO HARD : zerog83
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  there any live blogs of the event? : g0nk
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    Monk just announced i think http://twitter.com/search?q=%23BlizzCon : flubba79
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      yeah, i'm refreshing that, but it's a clusterfuck of stupid. : g0nk
      • Phil needs to get in there and bust it up. : FlatlineDixay
    • Well, the monk hasn't been announced, so much as a picture supposedly from Blizzard's Korean website show... : Alice O'Connor
• Battle.net 2.0 Reveal tonight at 6:30pm. OH FUCK. : pancake humper
• Ok this Internet stream is having some hiccuping problems :( Shit better be fixed! : pancake humper
• Opening Ceremonies starting now.. : g0nk
• Mike Morheime on stage : g0nk
• CATACLYSMIC : g0nk
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  blah blah blah we sold 20K blizzcon tickets in 30 seconds.. : g0nk
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    why are you tweeting this here when you posted the stream link? : pancake humper
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      in case someone can't watch it? i dunno.. poo on you PH.. : g0nk
      • Thanks for posting this g0nk. I'm on my BlackBerry and can't watch. Keep it up! : vile
• yawn.. look back at Blizzcon '08 and WotLK launch.. : g0nk
• http://www.wow.com/2009/08/21/new-diablo-iii-class-monk/ : lcizzle
• STARCRAFT 2 BETA STARTS TOMORROW!!!! just kidding, but man I wish : mwasher
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  lol!!! @ joke about selling collectibles on eBay : g0nk
  • Damn, Those are going to fetch a bundle. : krym3
• Metzen on stage! : g0nk
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  The last class for D3 will be the Ranger. : sistergrim
  • Texas Ranger : Uninitialized
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  here it comes.. : g0nk
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    Yep.... here i comes...... : krym3
    • err... it. : krym3
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  whoop! Diablo3 news! : two50six
  • looks like they finally brought the gore back to Diablo3 : two50six
• Diablo 3 time! New class looks to be... MONK : g0nk
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  Monk class confirmed : pancake humper
  • Annnnd Cataclysm is officially announced : Robotic Puppy Eater
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  wow, Monk cinematic is bad ass! ooo, Game Play! : g0nk
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    holy shit he blows stuff up good!! : g0nk
    • does he use holy magic and such? : Psigun
• this thread is turning into an Apple announcement thread, but with only 3 or 4 people posting. :P : mwasher
• Cataclysm time. : krym3
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  WoW time looks like.. : g0nk
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    Indeed! : krym3
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      Cataclysm comfirmed : krym3
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        same shit graphics : whistletits
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          WoW's hardware accessibility is a big draw for a lot of people, Blizzard isn't going to alienate that par... : Zek
          • yeah i know they designed it so you could play on a SNES. I just wasn't a fan of the cartoony artwork. : whistletits
  • here it comes. : jonin
• WoW Expansion - Cataclysm - Confirmed : g0nk
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  HOLY SHIT! It's COMPLETELY redesigned!! damn! : g0nk
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    mmo-champion has been right on : krym3
    • WorgeA] and Goblins [H] new races : krym3
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  Goblins! Worgens! CONFIRMED : g0nk
  • 85 level cap archeology new profession. and guild levels : krym3
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    Man they fucked up azeroth : jonin
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      how does that work if someone doesnt buy the expansion? : flubba79
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        Phasing : pancake humper
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          Are they just going to leave the old continents as separate zones and leave the non-expansion owners alon... : Zek
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            Yeah, phasing allows to have 2 separate versions of the world at the same time. I can be in the same area... : pancake humper
            • If so then I wouldn't be surprised if they toss in a time travel portal or something that sends you back ... : Zek
            • What a strange thing. I can choose to leave the exp. content and go play with my non-exp. friend I guess?... : byorn
          • No they aren't I just read a post and the world is completely changed. They do plan on using more phasing... : Chod
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          i'm not watching the feed, is the entirety of azeroth going to be phased or just a few zones affected by ... : electroly
          • Solid information coming up in the WoW preview panel. Will have to wait for the details. : pancake humper
      • azeroth is forever changed. it is NOT phasing. The new content from 1-60(except starting races) will be... : AllYourBase
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    first race that alliance gets that is actually cool. Horde goblins. Lame. : johnny rotten
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      Horde Goblins = Alliance Gnomes. : g0nk
      • Any word on their racial abilities? : kek
    • Man whatever, I don't care who it is as long as Horde finally gets a short race. It's criminal that they ... : Zek
    • Goblin Death Knight. LOL! : g0nk
• when they said they were gonna tear up the old world, they weren't kidding.. shit looks really different : das_runt
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  srsly, the old world is completely different, wow.. worth it to start new characters looks like! bad ass!... : g0nk
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    lol same new shit different paint. It's like repackaging a drug, so easy. : kainen1
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      old shit rather. lol. : kainen1
      • lol. : fishbone
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    If only I had as much time as you do : ateam311
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      You're posting this on a video game website. At the same time he's posting it. You do. : vile
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        not really, he's at work : Yanks
        • How do you know where I am????? ARE YOU WATCHING ME???T?%?%? : ateam311
      • The amount of time it takes to view/post on a forum and/or multitask while doing so is completely trivial... : the city
  • Oh god. I'm at work and can't see any of this shit. It's killing me. : paulatreus
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    Any screenshots? Can't watch the video at work. : hohoh0
    • http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/ : slickdoody
  • For visuals for the unwatching... Basically the main areas are torn up with canyons of broken earth and ... : krym3
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  anything sc2 related? : RetroRedEyeJr
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    no date yet, Morhaime said he is 'confident' about beta this year. I am hoping they drop a bomb at the... : pancake humper
    • i hope so too!! : RetroRedEyeJr
    • What do we know about Battle.net 2.0's features? : Zek
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      he said earlier that it will "Ship next year" but that's it.. : g0nk
      • ok?...... : pancake humper
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  http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/ : g0nk
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    ^^info and video now up, although doesnt look fully finished web page. : g0nk
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      The HD download of the trailer is "not authorized" yet >:( : ArcKnight
      • Worgen page isnt found either : Patch-e
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    Deathwing looks like Diablo :x : das_runt
    • looks fuckin badass to me!! :) : g0nk
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    Cataclysm makes the 1-60 grind worthwhile again. It really makes sense. Although, I wonder what this m... : das_runt
    • Sounds like 2 other possibilities for bullshit expansions to me. : lcizzle
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      It's still the only 60-70 content right? They may or may not make you go back to the previous two expansi... : Zek
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        Yeah, I figured that... but the story and lore (haha) would seem irrelevant considering what's going on i... : das_runt
        • Easy to write in. Oh fuck, a cataclysm, let's escape to Outland for approximately 10 levels. Who are we... : kek
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    Oh my god the voiceover for the trailer is horrible. : ArcKnight
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      I believe that's Thrall : kek
      • That's what I thought too. : royalally
  • http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/media/?autoplay=true#video that voice isn't working for me. Su... : kgargs
• WoW Preview Panel starting : pancake humper
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  wow, the original game is going bye bye. Q: Will I need the expansion to be able to experience the C... : kek
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    that saddens me :( i was hoping they'd have some way to access the pre-cataclysm old world if you want. : electroly
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      ditto. a caverns of time toggle would be nice. : kek
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        if they take stratholme away from me i'm gonna send a dead fish to someone at blizzard : electroly
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          Q: What about Stratholme? A: Similar to Azshara, Stratholme is now a level 12-16 open world quest hub ... : kek
          • lol : electroly
          • The alliance do lose Southshore though YES. : Chod
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  Laziest expansion ever. : D45hiz
  • Throwing out the original game in its entirety and remaking it is a lazy expansion? : Zek
  • umm, no, looks like they redid the entire original game, artwork wise.. did you look at the screenshots a... : g0nk
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    hahaha I love you : pancake humper
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      Dude I know you can't wait to run MC again. RAGNAROS IS GOING DOWN YEAH : D45hiz
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        Sorry what? Too busy making a Goblin Shaman : pancake humper
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          Now that I think about it Goblin Warlock would be win. : D45hiz
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            I think a tauren priest would be fun because I actually liked healing on my druid before I got tree form.... : kek
            • i hope they provide us with some air freshener or deodorant items to counteract all the new stinky tauren... : electroly
      • you're not running MC again... : AllYourBase
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    Are you crotchfire in HoN? : kgargs
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      Nope try again. : D45hiz
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        fortyfives.. duh : kgargs
        • Yep, thanks for the games last night. Playing in pubs sucks. : D45hiz
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    don't stir the beehive shiz.... : kainen1
    • Fuck man you know how many times i've ran that old world shit. I dont care if they change the looks I wa... : D45hiz
  • Anytime you modify a complex system to the extent they are, it is no easy task. It may be easier from an ... : byorn
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    It's a smart move. Getting new people to subscribe or burned out people to re-roll is so much easier now ... : das_runt
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      Blizzard just rehased a bunch of the old world and gave xp bonuses and such. To me it sounds like Bliz... : lcizzle
      • rehashed* : lcizzle
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      i think forty is just having a laugh but there's truth at the root of his statement. i'm not really look... : electroly
      • I think it's going to be a healthy mix of nostalgic and new content. I think they're splitting their eff... : kek
      • Read these two bullet points from the writeup on mmo-champion.com: • New High-Level Zones: Explo : action wombmate
      • There is going to be so much new high level content in brand new zones, relax. : pancake humper
      • new dungeons mentioned so far: The Firelands, Uldum, Blackrock Caverns, Grim Batol, Skywall plus 3 new... : jonas54
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        I was kinda hoping for a new Druid only city or some such. Disappointed there was not any druid related n... : mace
        • You can look at this sexy Worgen Druid! http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/august/im... : action wombmate
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          You guys get the entire zone of Moonglade! What more could you ask for? : electroly
          • ^Yeah, this. Why would you need a freaking city? : The Grolar Bear
      • I hate the new continent expansions as it has completely killed the old worlds. I like this idea much mor... : paulatreus
    • I don't think D45hiz knows anything about game development. : Porkasaurus
  • It's kind of a catch-up, half-expansion. Advance the original story, renovate the old world, and add in t... : Stage
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  Anyone else feeling like its just azeroth with lava everywhere? : shackwack
  • Kind of, yeah. : The Grolar Bear
  • ....No? Even if, why does that have to be a bad thing? : action wombmate
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  They showed a picture of what I wanted to play since I started WoW. Goblin Rogue = I will play again f... : lcizzle
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    and they get a fucking sweet as car for a mount. heeelllzzz ya : lcizzle
    • I will name him Butcher Pete and go choppin up all the Alliance womenz meat. haha : lcizzle
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  Desolace looks greener: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/august/images/ss7_hires.j... : FlatlineDixay
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    worst zone ever : Clay
    • I liked the feel of the zone, but it hard to get around in, and had a lot of running. : FlatlineDixay
• Sweet, mass resurrection. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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  Dumb question but is there any hint of when this comes in comparison to their other projects? Has the pan... : royalally
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    They've just said 2010 : Frozen Pixel
    • Nice, thanks. : royalally
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  will there be a concise TLDR summary ?!?!!? : Downforce
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    how this http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/features/ : kek
    • O_O time to get some more socks : Downforce
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  are there any details on the "Path of Titans" character progression they mentioned very briefly in the tr... : sicko
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    i'm curious too. i'm not sure i even know what character progression means in this context. also, i'd... : electroly
    • Probably going to be a 'Jedi' class for WoW : pancake humper
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    there was a little on mmo-champion.com Path of the Titans * Talent trees won't be extended, you wil : bRAINsick
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      this raises more questions than it answers :/ : electroly
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        Oh electroly you know you love to have stats to worry over and wonder about :P : action wombmate
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          hell yeah that's why i want to know what on earth they mean by "The point is to get rid of a lot of the t : electroly
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            Yeah, that is a little vague, but it sounds like some talent abilities might go away or be integrated int... : action wombmate
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              I'm curious how that plays into the "this is a new talent system with new skills and passive abilities". ... : electroly
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                I guess we'll have to wait and see. : action wombmate
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                  Hopefully they'll release more concrete information as time goes on. We're still in that initial phase o... : electroly
                  • I hate to be so lame but I'm mostly interested in playing a Worgen, even if it's just for a little bit. ... : action wombmate
    • what I was REALLY REALLY hoping for was a form of alternate advancement experience ala EQ. It allows you ... : sicko
    • Sounds like Master Levels in DAOC. : TreMetal
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  I wonder if they'll add "This item does not work on characters higher than 80." to the +xp% heirloom gear... : kek
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    It may already have it. They all say "Requires level 1 to 80" specifically; they may just continue to sa... : electroly
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      You're right. :/ How the hell are they going to manage heirloom gear then? I realize they basically... : kek
      • or they could make the heirlooms exp bonus only effect levels 1-80 until 2 patches in when they decide to... : AllYourBase
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        New heirloom items that are 1-85 and purchasable with level 85 tokens, I'd assume. : electroly
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          That's a questionable use of time if you already have heirlooms for 1-80. : kek
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            It's possible they just won't do anything, and you'll be expected to do without heirlooms from 80-85. : electroly
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              That would mean an effective abolishment of the hierloom system if they did nothing because people aren't... : kek
              • Which is why I originally suggested they'd create new ones. It doesn't make any sense for the current on... : electroly
            • I'd hope so. As it was WotLK had more content than was needed to level from 68-80 sans heirlooms. By the ... : Vincent Grayson
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              Exactly. By 80, I'm sure you've found a blue replacement anyhow. : Entity
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                There are no blues in the game that offer +20% xp gains. : kek
                • And they never intended for heirloom items to help your main character level faster, which is what would ... : electroly
• the deathwing wallpaper is simply too badass not to use : grendel
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  Night Elves can be mages now? Doesn't sound right to me. : noodleboy723
  • there's only like 6 mages left in the whole game so they have to increase the appeal : Downforce
  • The Night Elves in Dire Maul are mostly mages anyway (leftover Highborne). : drhazard
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  did they mention Episode 3? : Klebold
  • this wasn't valvecon : Birchman
  • Tomorrow maybe ! : action wombmate
• Battle.net Panel starting! : pancake humper
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  no DIII in 2010 is fuckin horseshit. : proclone1
  • wwwwwwaaaattt?? : g0nk
  • Yeah that sucks. :( : DM7
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    Horseshit? No. Disappointing? Yes. Blizzard always takes a long time but they pretty consistently d... : action wombmate
    • oh sure, when it's finally released it's going to be f'ing awesome, I just feel like they teased a shitlo... : proclone1
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    sounds like they need to get their fucking priorities straight : the city
    • south korea probably has a good amount of their family members hostage and are threatening to dump them i... : proclone1
  • vindicated! : fathertime
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    Aren't they developing Cataclysm, SC2, D3 and a new MMO all at the same time? : Bamtan
    • Seems like. : action wombmate
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  LOL, I just saw this on mmo-champion regarding Cataclysm world changes: The Horde finally conquered So : das_runt
  • aww CMON! : Audhuml4
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    Yes! Finally, my help in taking over the town paid off. : DM7
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      http://grendel.shackspace.com/WOW/old/mayor-rustblade.jpg http://grendel.shackspace.com/WOW/old/rb-ten... : grendel
      • Step right up and pay your dues! :D : DM7
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    For the horde! : TreMetal
    • You guys can have it, that place was a dump anyways. : action wombmate
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  Hot, cloud storage of SC2 campaign progress, for playing at work, etc. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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    Not having to worry about your save game for future campaigns is going to be awesome. : pancake humper
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      Also, having this stream buffer every fucking time the camera changes is annoying. : pancake humper
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        Agreed. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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          Geoff Keighly telling me to bump down to Medium quality to fix it can fuck off as well. My PC smokes the ... : pancake humper
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            At least you can watch it. Mine still says account expired. : Frozen Pixel
            • Dear member, In case you encounter a log in error (“your account is expired” etc.) Please dou... : pancake humper
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    Ugh I don't want my real name showing up on peoples friends list. This is such a stupid idea. : pancake humper
    • That's optional. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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    What's "cloud storage"? : action wombmate
    • Blizzard-side storage. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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  Whoa, paid/free maps marketplace a la iTunes App Store. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
  • wow that shit is fucking awesome! There are going to be some really amazing custom maps for starcraft i c... : RetroRedEyeJr
• What the fuck, no chat channels in Battle.net at launch? : pancake humper

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  Nope thanks for linking, might read it later. Possible to do quick TLDR version of it? : humbleone
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    TLDR: Read It. : NoCopy
    • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20721267#itemanchor_20721267 : CrustaR
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    TLDR: Orson Scott Card is against gay rights, so many people are not buying the game because it would su... : CrustaR
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      He is a douche, but it's not his game. : Fred Garvin
      • Garvin, I agree. : CrustaR
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        Is he receiving any royalties due to connections (however loose) with the underlying source material? : ra1n
        • I would assume so, there is an interview with him specifically talking about this game and its involvemen... : qwpeoriu
    • that is pretty gay : gmd
• thats gay : spiderfill
• i can't decide who is crazier card or the ultimate warrior. : Hoax
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  yeah I read that earlier. I'm not quite sure what I think but it's certainly a good article! realisti... : mikecyb
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    You could just play the game and then have sex with a man to balance it out. : SenorSpine
    • Be sure to pics divx in case karma police stops by and asks for proof. : greydog
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  If I ever take my gaming selection as serious as this guy, I will immediately kill myself. It was a very : theangrywaffles
  • Er, "I would say so long as nothing offensive to me is in the game, then there is no reason not to pick i... : theangrywaffles
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    Well I think it's less caring what a developer who worked on a game thinks and more the fact at how promi... : mikecyb
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      Yes, and that said animator is helping to enable Card profit. That's my problem with it. Where do you dra... : theangrywaffles
      • well right I think that was the point of the article. sort of wondering where to stop. I would agree bo... : mikecyb
      • It's entirely just self expression...the only way it would matter is if it created a big stink but that's... : spiderfill
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      Chair created the universe, Card just wrote the book for them. : n0v4
      • ahh interesting yeah I just read that. so it's not his IP, it's probably owned by Chair. so it's probab... : mikecyb
  • This makes sense. I'd rather play a good game than boycott it because someone in the development has diff... : jigstah
• LOL @ Internet boycotts. : Fred Garvin
• I like how these people think their opinions matter. I probably won't play this but I certainlyI welcome... : Moonbase Commander
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  i'm not depriving myself of something i want because it might give some douchebag a dollar : dirge23
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    also, even if shadow complex never sold a single copy due to the most effective boycott in history, i don... : dirge23
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      I don't think the idea is to change his opinion, just weather or not you want to support someone if you d... : mikecyb
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        i'm not into empty gestures, i guess : dirge23
        • Empty gestures implies you feel like your personal actions have no impact on larger issues? I might b... : Porkasaurus
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        So what do they hope to accomplish? (Other than beating their own chests about how they're not going to s : cause&effect
        • what do they hope to accomplish? an expression of free speech? just as Card has a right to say whatever... : mikecyb
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        Yeah, so punish the fucking developers who did 99.9% of the work because Card is tangentially, ever so sl... : GeorgeB3DR
        • shouldn't have taken that contracting job on the Deathstar. : lacker
• i hate when politics mixes with my hobby, i play games to get away from stuff like this :( : qwpeoriu
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  It's hilarious how much Card will try to harp on the persecution of Mormons in US history, et cetera, yet... : Fayk
  • I also think the same people in this thread who don't give a shit about what Orson Card thinks wouldn't b... : Porkasaurus
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  The thing that really gets me about these type of "one person boycotts" is that the collateral damage far... : ra1n
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    weirdly I think the best suggestion was to buy the game and then donate the same amount to a gay rights c... : mikecyb
    • Good idea. Everyone wins. : ra1n
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      donate it to me. I promise i'll do something really gay with it : GloriousCow
      • okay but only if it's like, super gay : mikecyb
      • spend it on shadow complex for maximum irony : dirge23
    • That's more than canceling out. There's no way Card is getting the total sum you pay for the title. : ieGod
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    the only damage could come from the publicity and only if its big. one lost sale doesnt mean anything to... : spiderfill
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      That's not very realistic. If the boycott is succesful (the only scenario that this would matter), it's ... : ra1n
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        i mean 1 person only has the power to convince others (boycott). 1 person choosing not to buy the game i... : spiderfill
        • That's wrong for 2 reasons: 1. What if someone saw you look at, then not purchase the game? 2. ... : ra1n
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    You make a good point but maybe those people should have considered that before using him. I'm sure Ep... : Porkasaurus
    • they probably didn't know that he was against gay rights. I certainly didn't and I've read a lot of his b... : thecray
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  Ridiculous. People are hyper-sensitive babies. I blame the 80s. : GeorgeB3DR
  • i blame jews and negroes. high five! : Hoax
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  Um..so buying local foods and supporting organic food trade is solely a 'liberal' thing now? If a conser... : deathofrats
  • phew, good thing he didn't actually say that. : algernoN8
• it's interesting that it has gained so much momentum, but it's a little disturbing how quick gamers are t... : DeBurgo
• Odds are, every studio has someone working on a title that puts money towards beliefs that I don't believ... : Deathlove
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  Card is a tremendous douche and a shitty writer, but I'm not going to skip an awesome game just because h... : Vincent Grayson
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    Yeah I've never read any of his stuff before, so after I saw his interview talking about the game I went ... : qwpeoriu
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      Ender's Game. : GloriousCow
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        Yeah i've heard of that before. If I buy it can I send you the same amount of money to do something reall... : qwpeoriu
        • GloriousCow is going to make out like a bandit from all this : mikecyb
        • what could i do that is gay enough? do i have to buy a ps3? : GloriousCow
        • I'm sure you can find it used somewhere. : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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      he wrote Ender's Game, which I think is his most well-received work, though I haven't read it so I have n... : mikecyb
      • oh it's really, really awesome. Just don't read any of the sequels. Finish the book, and walk away. : proclone1
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  You should boycott Shadow Complex but not because of Orson Scott Card. I hear one of the texture artists ... : GloriousCow
  • this would be so easy if I didn't want to play it so much!! : mikecyb
• If Card was suddenly bankrupted, would the (despicable, to me) National Organization for Marriage fold? ... : SiW.
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  I won't buy it. Fuck that guy. : Porkasaurus
  • literally : boring gegtik
• what a nutt : dopeman
• I already bought Shadow Complex, but I wod have skipped it if I'd read that first. I wonder how much of t... : Dave-A
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  I had no idea Chris Remo was gay : fishbone
  • did you miss the Lord of the Rings Trilogy? : massdev
• i dont want to support a jerk like that but then again there are a lot of people that worked on that game... : dantastic
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  You know, there is probably at least one person working on every big game who is against gay rights. This... : thecray
  • You are missing the point. Sure there are dicks everywhere, there always will be but when a dick has ... : Porkasaurus
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  These people are proto-fascists. They don't just want people to accept their point of view, or agree to ... : trove
  • Uh, going by that logic, you could say the Civil Rights movement of the 60's and 70's was the same thing. : ArcKnight
  • What do you mean "These people"? (No, actually, I don't know if you mean the authors of the article, b... : Fayk
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    I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. I immedia... : trove
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      trove did you even read the article? : mikecyb
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        I did have to google around to figure out why they had a picture of a destroyed Gears of War 2 game. : trove
        • What's even worse is I read Empire. Ugh. : trove
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          That's in the article... : Delithio
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            It says in the article that Epic is publishing Shadow Complex? : trove
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              I did have to google around to figure out why they had a picture of a destroyed Gears of War 2 game. ... : Delithio
              • Yes, gaming industry trivia. I had to google it. : trove
      • "I don't know what Donald Mustard or any of the people at Chair who worked hard on Shadow Complex think a... : trove
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      fortunately the man was made of straw and was not harmed by the fall : boring gegtik
      • haha : brewsterdog
  • In the name of tolerance even. : capt tripps
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  So wait, people are boycotting a game on xbox live because someone who is associated with the game is aga... : fvariance
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    Good point, fag. : greydog
    • BOYCOTT SHACKNEWS@#!! : fvariance

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• diet coke. : dahanese
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  I just finished off a growler of Pliny the Elder, and I've moved on Bell's Porter. Through some act of... : fishbone
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    Three growlers of Pliny? Awesome. Bastard! : delataur
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      $20 a piece! I originally wanted bottles, which go for $4.50 a piece at the brew pub, but they were all o... : fishbone
      • Well, at least you chose the solution that earned you more Pliny. Else I could never forgive you. : delataur
• Miller Lite : PointlesS76
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  Rum n' Coke : Dschinghis Khan
  • I think I will partake as well. Then maybe some TF2 later! : kagath
• Perrier! : wendigo
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  tears. My kitty is missing :( : Megara9
  • How long? : ArcKnight
  • What happened? Did he (she?) decide to go off on adventures outdoors? =( : helvetica
• whatever beer i pick up at the grocery with a pizza : mwasher
• evan williams : wetard
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  Don't know yet. I have 60 beer options in my apartment. Time to choose! :) : delataur
  • Oooh let us help you decide, what are some of the beers? : fishbone
• Icehouse : edge198
• sparkling water! : re-verse
• http://www.widmer.com/beer_hefeweizen.aspx : historyinthemaking
• Coca-Cola Classic... the drink of champions (don't worry, the alcohol comes tomorrow - birthday celebrati... : Postal
• Dogfishhead IPA 60 and waiting for first Fantasy Football draft of the year. : On the Brane
• Grey Goose got the boy feeling loose. : freqq28
• V8 and Vodka. : dirge23
• coors original : ass-street
• PBR, but in a few hours. Once I'm done painting. : get_navi
• Sam Adams octoberfest : gmd
• prob some form of beer once my homey gets here : arizona bay
• 2% Milk. I need to get to the store and get some beer : melkore
• Barney Flats Oatmeal Stout : mmaster_pw
• a cup of cocks. : thrallie200
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  rose syrup. It's almost 9am here though lol. : moe6
  • why are you up so early on a saturday? or have you yet to sleep? : mwasher
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  cocaine : ra1n
  • har har : ra1n
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    So that's how the lawyers do it nowadays huh? : hashd
    • lawyers and doctors, holy shit, i've seen my straight no-drugs medical friends turn completely recently a... : filthysock
• coffee, no booze to pass these lips for another 12 weeks :( : filthysock
• Ice Cream soup! :D : DM7
• Mt. Dew : notdeadyeti
• Dogfish Head Squall IPA. Not as great as I had hoped. : Head Rush
• Diet Mt. Dew : capt tripps

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  ditto, Metroid. : Dschinghis Khan
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    ...and why? : brickmatt
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      the reasons you mentioned, that;s what ditto means. : Dschinghis Khan
      • Well you put ditto before not after, so I took it as "ditto on metroid!" but without why. Instead of "Met... : brickmatt
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  RPGs, no doubt. : dirge23
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    ...and why? : brickmatt
    • 1. Immersion. 2. Being the center of an epic story. : dirge23
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  RPGs.. especially more open-ended ones : wtf242
  • ^^^ : eeeealmo
  • ...and why? : brickmatt
• FPS games. I like blowing things up. : sigpro
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  Tossup between RPG and Platformer. : Grumbeld
  • ...and why? : brickmatt
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  Half-Life series, Metroid, Mega Man 2, and Diablo (I think it counts!). Fallout 3 is very, very, VERY hig... : zerog83
  • Genre! ...and why? : brickmatt
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  Castlevania : lacker
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    Genre! ...and why? : brickmatt
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      2D side scroller. I believe there is still a lot of room for improvement with both level design and movem... : lacker
      • btw I believe this is true for other franchises. Give me a 2D Ninja Gaiden, a new 2D Splatterhouse, @ Tro... : lacker
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        The physics of Shadow Complex are very well done. They aren't perfect, but they're approaching what you'r... : brickmatt
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          If I had a 360 I would be playing it already. : lacker
          • Well for your sake I hope it comes to PC soon, I'm really digging it! : brickmatt
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  RPGs. Don't care where they're from, be it here, Japan, the scarier parts of Europe. : Vincent Grayson
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    ...and why? : brickmatt
    • I don't know. I wish I did, but there's just something inherently appealing to me about them, regardless ... : Vincent Grayson
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  Metroid is a genre? : Moonbase Commander
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    That type of game is, sure! And I can't think of a name for it, so I just am going to call it that until ... : brickmatt
    • It's a damn exploration/action-adventure game >:( A damn good one. : Kniggit
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  probably platformers, 2D mostly but I also like a good 3D one... followed closely by FPS games : mikecyb
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    ...and why? : brickmatt
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      wtf are you a high school teacher : mikecyb
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        I used to be, yes! : brickmatt
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          I like 2D platformers because they are fun. In a 2D platformer you can jump and run and sometimes shoot ... : mikecyb
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            Hey do you like Uncharted? I like the platformy Prince of Persia jumping stuff in it a lot. : tomservo
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              I don't have a PS3 yet, but what I've heard about Uncharted is that the platforming is neat but underused... : mikecyb
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                The platform elements in Uncharted are great, and the combat is ok (it gets better with more weapons). Un... : brickmatt
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                  sands of time is excellent! I think the combat is maybe a little dull at times, but that's a minor compl... : mikecyb
                  • Sands of Time is one of the best games in that generation, by a long shot. And yeah, the combat gets dul... : brickmatt
              • Yeah the combat in Uncharted is mediocre and the platform stuff is VERY underused. I hope they correct th... : tomservo
          • This was brilliant, well played sir. : brickmatt
          • Awesome post. : BoKnows
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  Adventure games. Leisurely, usually comical, takes some good braining, and usually good storytelling. : SolveChrist
  • I like a well-done adventure game, but too many are pixel hunts for it to be my favorite. : brickmatt
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  I'm gonna go with FPS games with RPG elements. : tomservo
  • Also: quit pandering for POTM you whore : tomservo
  • Oh also: Skate 2 makes me erect : tomservo
  • ...and why? : brickmatt
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  Lol @ "Metroid Genre" but ya. RPG's are the best for singleplayer gaming. PC also enhances this imho. (Th... : Sgt_Boomstick
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    Couldn't think of a name for it. =( ...and why? : brickmatt
    • RPG's are my favorite single player genre because they are one of the few genres that lose 90% of their i... : Sgt_Boomstick
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  I think I would agree with you. Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night are still my top 2 all time favor... : pyide
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    I played SotN waaay later in life, like 15 years after Metroid so it wasn't quite as OMG WTF but that sty... : brickmatt
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      The jump to 3D was done well, but I still miss the perspective of 2D and how you could instantly see an e... : brickmatt
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        I don't feel like I explore as well with the FPS viewpoint. : brickmatt
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          Yeah, it's a bit trickier but I though it was well done. I enjoyed listening for the missile upgrades and... : pyide
          • It was well done, but didn't quite give me the same sense of wonder in the indoor environments. The outdo... : brickmatt
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  System shock 2 : Downforce
  • Genre. ...and why? : brickmatt
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  I'm going to go with the ...and why? genre of video games. They keep you guessing! Or do they?!? : Dave-A
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    At least you almost sort of gave a why! =( : brickmatt
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      It's a hard question to answer! Is open world a genre? I like freedom to explore and discover, and the sh... : Dave-A
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        Metroid is open world! Do you mean GTA-style third person city with roaming? I always find my ultimate... : brickmatt
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          Well, it spans traditional genres I guess. GTA, Burnout Paradise, Fallout 3, Oblivion... and I hope Halo ... : Dave-A
          • I can't imagine ODST being truly open world. That would be very not-Bungie. : brickmatt
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  I like hiking shoes. : walker270
  • =( : brickmatt
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  You like platformers, then. Metroid, Mega Man, Mario, etc. : jingletard
  • Not necessarily. The non-linearity and exploration is a key. As is actual combat, and varied weapons and ... : brickmatt
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  Adventure, perhaps. I've usually enjoyed solving the sometimes-contrived puzzles in these games. You've... : DrWaffles
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    I love a good puzzle but I hate the pixel hunt in some adventure games. I love the humor and stories they... : brickmatt
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      Yeah, adventure games are sometimes a labor of love. Shadow of the Colossus was empty, but I occasiona... : DrWaffles
      • It's one of the most beautiful game worlds I've ever played, and the emptiness was fitting. : brickmatt
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  racing games. i loved them even before i ever took my car on the track, but after that, i love them more... : FrayLo
  • That's fair I suppose. I'm a fantastic driver but I fucking blow at racing games, I never quite get in sy... : brickmatt
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  Fuck, not sure I can pick one. I love most SP games. If I had to pick one genre out of them all I guess I... : thetangent
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    SP RTS seems like an interesting choice, I've always found SP RTS to be boring and easily overcome, due t... : brickmatt
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      At low levels sure, but harder settings can be pretty challenging. The problem is I don't usually like RT... : thetangent
      • I hate rushing and I love building a huge base to FSU, that's a good time for sure. COOP RTSing is a hug... : brickmatt
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  action adventure rpgs. I love action, i love adventure, and i love leveling the fuck up. Super Metroid... : roushimsx
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    Shadow Complex has a leveling system! You would adore it! I agree that leveling up is satisfying. So b... : brickmatt
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      I'm enjoying Shadow Complex, actually! action? adventure? leveling? Woo! Link to the Past and Twilight... : roushimsx
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        Agreed on the "shadow world" concept, it's because LttP and Twilight both gave the shadow world a real pe... : brickmatt
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          I feel bad that I trudged all the way through it instead of dumping it and moving on to something else so... : roushimsx
          • I was worried I was missing out and it got really good later. But apparently not! : brickmatt
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  i like the italic dual three letter word and punctuation game, because it's fun to watch someone else pla... : mmogger
  • Why do you find it fun to watch, you think? : brickmatt
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  First-Person Shooter As for why, I think it has something to do with taking control of somebody who's ... : IndigoAK
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    The new wolf is that good? No way! Have you seen the trailer for the new movie Gamer? Oh my lol. : brickmatt
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      To me, it was awesome. It isn't ground breaking and it doesn't set any new rules in the genre, but it's ... : IndigoAK
      • That's really interesting to hear, I'll have to look into it. I'm surprised, really. I've never really lo... : brickmatt
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  MMORPG's are my favorite single-player genre... its just better to play those games by yourself then with... : megreedy
  • That's an interesting take on the genre! : brickmatt
  • I like mmogs because of the persistent nature of the worlds. When stop playing, the world keeps on going. : mmogger
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  considering how popular the metroids are, you'd think there would be more in this "genre" : fathertime
  • I always thought that, but hopefully something like Shadow Complex could turn things around! : brickmatt
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  Definitely exploration-based open world games. That means Metroid and Zelda. I know there's more to Zelda... : pillzer
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    I love exploration a lot more than I should, it's my favorite part of most games. I totally know what yo... : brickmatt
    • You really need to try SotN. : brickmatt
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  Final Fantasy VII because it had the best story and characters I actually cared about. First time this ev... : freakynipples69
  • I was never able to relate to any of the characters in FF7, but I think I might've just missed the boat o... : brickmatt
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  Western RPG, Oblivion, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, that sort of thing. : WhatIsThisFor
  • Oh, because of the exploration options, non-linearity, and character customization. : WhatIsThisFor
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  online PC FPSes and RPGees : mnsnota
  • ...and why? : brickmatt
  • Online FPSes The cooperative elements of playing online with people from all over the world/country crea... : mnsnota
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  Metroid / Zelda / Castlevania, I agree. On that note, did anyone else feel like the more you play Shad : slax0r
  • And why? Hard to explain. I've always liked exploration, in games and in real life. The challenge of t... : slax0r
• FPS-RPG hybrids. Because. : ZaldronGG
• Open world/universe games, specifically Privateer and Freelancer, Fallout 3, Metroid and Crackdown are so... : Cliffzorz
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  The metroid genre. What the hell is that brickmatt??? : Mr.SEX
  • If you played Shadow Complex you'd understand Mr.Sex. : brickmatt
• Metal Gear games. Love them to tears. MGS4 is one of the greatest gaming experience ever. Why? I love ... : dpgagnon
• 4X Genre And why? Because they are normally huge games with near endless fun. http://en.wikipedia.... : Durajim
• First person RPG - A hazy little subsection that I'm trying to mark as seperate from 'classic' RPGs, crip... : T-900

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  i use the task list in Outlook : dirge23
  • I've tried using this before but it doesn't work for me. I'm not sure why :( : cookblaze
  • what i use too. although i might switch in the future because outlook is local only, how that still flies... : podizzle
  • ^^^ THIS : orgcaptainnemo
  • ^^ this. everything is so frequently red though :-( : dahanese
  • Same here, it's quite handy. : helvetica
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  multiple sharepoint site with each one being for different aspect of my job duties. : sigpro
  • we use sharepoint as well. some opf the links are stupid and hit the 255 charachter limit mark .. sad rea... : ghost hacker
• Evernote has worked well for me for both note taking and task tracking. : gummijoh
• notepad : cygnus
• GTDInbox Gmail plugin : foo
• I use rememberthemilk cause it syncs with Blackberry nicely. I'm not sure if I'm going to resub though, t... : yoonix
• management by yellow sticky note : retardhumper
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  I like Gmail Tasks, but Remember the Milk is good too and syncs with my iPhone. : jenisthebest
  • Gmail Task for me too, especially since it works so well on the iPhone and I have it everywhere I go. : Matt Burris
• www.todoist.com : andrew``
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  call me oldschool, but i use a little notebook and write everything down by hand. helps me remember. : gokart.
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    this is the only thing i've found that works for me. something about physically writing it down helps me... : electroly
    • same. i learned this the hard way in school once it became acceptable to use a computer for notes. i don'... : gokart.
  • Yup, same here. : freshyk
• At work, a physical notepad that I jot down notes in. For personal, everything is in my head. : DHAvatar
• To do lists never seem to work with me. I need something implanted in my brain that will force me to do t... : hoov1185
• Whiteboard and notepad and notepad.exe : PointlesS76
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  http://culturedcode.com/things/ is the best... (for mac) : historyinthemaking
  • This is what I use. All it needs is OTA syncing with the iphone, and it will be perfect. : ventro
  • I use this too and love it : cdbeckman
  • Gonna agree with this. : zakazi
• post-its! The yellow kind. : Lrd_Cujo
• I have a txt document of things jotted down of things i need to do, things i'm working on, and things tha... : Demius
• To-Do-List in iGoogle : niceguynick
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  I read Getting Things Done by George Allen, and implemented his system on a portable wiki. It's a branch ... : Dante
  • Oh, and MSProject for managing projects. : Dante
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    David Allen? : Degenerate
    • Coe : judge
    • yeah, that guy. It's a good system since it's less a system that's shoved on you than a system you create... : Dante
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  I spent months trying to find a decent app. There is only one decent app, and it is this: http://www.code... : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • Don't be alarmed by the screenshot, it's highly configurable and can be made more minimalist, if that's w... : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • I automatically sync the lists across several computers using Microsoft Live Sync (previously named Folde... : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • That looks pretty cool. : MagicWishMonkey
• I just remember everything. : terath
• I like ReQall. May not be totally what you're looking for though. : halophoenix
• notes on my iphone : WhatIsThisFor
• I use a whiteboard. : RomSteady
• The Task app on my Pre : noodleboy723

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• And....I'm spent. : Vincent Grayson
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  TL;DW. Is it awesome? : wendigo
  • Yeah it looks pretty damn good. As expected at this point in development, many things are still rough aro... : sonicstorm
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  Holy shit this is awesome. The graphics still bug me, but the gameplay is going to win me over. I have a ... : theangrywaffles
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    Wait...I must be missing something. Part 3 talks about how a higher level bounty hunter and Sith warrior : theangrywaffles
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      yeah, i noticed that too.. : g0nk
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        Check out Wookiepedia. I guess the rank of Grand Moff was introduced during the first Sith Empire (the ti... : theangrywaffles
        • haha... grand muff... : MrBig0
• i'm excited : mwasher
• Awesome, I can't wait to see this when I get home. : jingletard
• very cool : fathertime
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  i cant get over how much it looks like SWG.. I wish they went with a different art style.. :( : g0nk
  • Really? I'd compare it to WoW, if anything. Which I believe is intentional, as BioWare is emulating that ... : sonicstorm
  • I think it looks way better than SWG. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • art style will help them keep the game looking fresh for years without requiring cutting edge hardware, a... : slickdoody
  • its more cartoony and stylized than SWG : spiderfill
  • Not at all and even if it did, it doesn't seem to play at all like SWG, which is the only thing that matt... : freakynipples69
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  I was largely unimpressed with the first two classes they showed. Then I saw the sith warrior class and n... : Ellissd
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    Yeah, Smuggler looks dull. Bounty Hunter looks pretty cool though, especially once you get that jetpack g... : Modica Sol Solis
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      a cover system in an mmo looks dull? : slickdoody
      • I've never particularly enjoyed cover systems in general. That being the selling point of a class is, ind... : Modica Sol Solis
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  I honestly believe this will be THE WoW killer. Given that it's going to need bit more time in the oven,... : slickdoody
  • You can't kill WoW. It's too big. You can only say "Almost as big as WoW". : freakynipples69
  • We've heard this before. I'll believe it when it happens. : walker270
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    i've heard this so many times about so many MMOs : electroly
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      i'm telling you guys, this one is different, this one has the best chance and the best reason to succeed.... : slickdoody
      • Just like all the others : OverloadUT
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  Looks awesome, but where is the MMO part of this game? There doesn't seem much interaction with anyone ot... : freakynipples69
  • Its obviously there, but that wasn't the focus of this video. Most of the video was spent with another pl... : sonicstorm
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    These videos are not about those elements. : WhatIsThisFor
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      Yeah, but this is a MMORPG. They should ALWAYS be appearant. But yeah, these were instance for the most p... : freakynipples69
      • Not really. The game isn't live so you're not going to see a large group of PCs wondering around on Nal ... : WhatIsThisFor
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    two guys were questing together in the third part I believe. : fathertime
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      There was a name over the other guys head so I assume that's another real character and not one of your s... : WhatIsThisFor
      • well they specifically said it was 2 real people when discussing the multiplayer conversation system : mwasher
• thanks for the links : WhatIsThisFor
• If the story is as good as other Bioware titles, in a MMO game... ... holy shit i know better to touch th... : Demius
• also: jesus, since when do all females in the Star Wars universe have tits from the Dead or Alive series? : g0nk
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  i forgot: I dunno, i'm torn as to what class i'd play. Definitely not Jedi or Sith.. fuck that shit. Boun... : g0nk
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    Since each has it's own distinct campaign, why not play through them all? : WhatIsThisFor
    • So how does that work in a MMO environment, do you just hop into other peoples story lines? Is there a op... : shortbuscaptain