Morning Discussion: All of a Sudden I Miss Everyone

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  I blew up a fucking billboard and it fell on my head and killed me. : sigpro
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    Ha ha ha. Isn't the game awesome though? I fucking love it. : voodooraze
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      It's pretty fun, but I don't know if I will be finishing every side quest thing you can do. I do like sma... : sigpro
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        I'm seriously considering restarting on Casual. I'm on normal and it's challenge enough, and honestly I j... : xsoulbrothax
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          I've died probably 30 times on normal and I'm about half way done with the game. I'm glad I didn't play o... : sigpro
          • yeah.. the most fun i have is when i'm destroying entire towns, and it's so easy to die to a oh surprise ... : xsoulbrothax
        • this is what i did. : pandastrong
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          You don't have to restart you can change it anytime with no repercussions. : jojomcbobo
          • oh son of a fucking bitch lol :*( : xsoulbrothax
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        I think it's to push the whole 'Guerrila warfare' thing - attacks are meant to be hit and run. I've had m : sethmarc
        • That makes a lot of sense. Some of the fucking buildings are harder than fuck to bring down. I had fun ta : sigpro
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  All I see everyone talk about are taking down buildings. That's got to get old after a while. Is there an... : hoov1185
  • It really doesn't get old. : pigvomit
  • Taking down walls. : Sailor of Fortune
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    did u not like original red faction? : Iwannaacura
    • Didn't play it, and I didn't own a PS2. : hoov1185
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    the multiplayer is surprisingly fun. : pandastrong
    • how much time have you spent in the MP - does it have any staying power? The game is in my gamefly que... : dedgecko
  • The mission set pieces are pretty awesome, the graphics are smooth, the weapons are unique and the multip... : sethmarc
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    blowing shit up gets old??? : moe6
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      All gameplay gets old unless you're clever with subtle variations : dedgecko
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        You can also melt buildings! And impact them with mini black holes! This game is ridiculously fun. : sethmarc
        • What really? I haven't done that yet. BUT I WANT TO! : voodooraze
    • Heh, I suppose you're right considering the amount of time I spent in Bad Company experimenting with diff... : hoov1185
  • are you kidding, its fucking awesome. : CoRDS
  • it never got old in earth defense force : [fry]
  • There's hostage rescue: not taking down the building until you've untied the guy on the top floor. Thi... : nem00
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  the long ass timed driving missions suck. Also, if I am driving across really long maps to get to a point... : radicus
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    They really suck if you happen to have destroyed key bridges along the route. Adds to your travel time a... : pigvomit
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      I was out running in the boonies getting to a bomb I unlocked collecting tapes and this chick shows up in... : sigpro
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        Yeah, once you get high enough rep, the locals drop cars off for you. I also noticed that people are qui... : pigvomit
        • They can get mad if you aren't a high rep with them. I took one from some people with a low rep and they ... : sigpro
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  I want to play this game. Bionic Commando sucks and I am going to return it to Blockbuster early (today.... : mwasher
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    Grab it if you can. The destruction in this game is beautiful. The gun fights get pretty hairy as well. I... : voodooraze
    • damn they were all rented out :( : mwasher
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  Did Volition / THQ ever state why no co-op over LIVE? : dedgecko
  • because they fucking hate us. my god, coop would be glorious :( : xsoulbrothax
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    Wait a sec, is there local co-op? : Thud
    • no, just pass-the-controller wreckling action. you get X time to do as much damage as possible. : xsoulbrothax
• Thank you voodooraze...you just sealed the deal for me and I will be buying this game when I finish inFam... : dysfunctional
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  Has anyone tried the PC version yet? If so, how bad is the consolitis in this one? : Marrbe
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    Didn't the PC release get delayed till the end of summer? I would stay away from it given Volition/THQ's... : dedgecko
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      oh shit.. that combo's last PC port was saints row 2, wasn't it? :\ i feel better about having bought it ... : xsoulbrothax
      • Ah damn it, I was interested in the PC port. : Dontdrop
• im loving this game so very much and im only 1hr into it. ive already blown up all the buildings outs... : CoRDS
• Volition, I love you for the Freespace games more so than 100% of the people here so you must understa... : MercFox1
• fuck it. i may just go buy this after i eat dinner since prototype isn't sounding so good now. : mwasher

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  Here it is in text 10) The Lost World (Arcade) 9) T2: The Arcade Game (Not on Genesis or Snes) 8) Sp : humbleone
  • Does AvP count? Because that was fantastic. : Vantage
  • Blade Runner! : notd665
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  Aladdin on SNES/GBA blows :( Also, Wolverine is only good on 360/PC/PS3. The PS2/Wii version blows, PSP ... : roushimsx
  • Their criteria for inclusion is also a little shaky :( : roushimsx
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  Fuck #1 Not even close to deserving that rank. : Ebu
  • DIAF : NFXFSX
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    Which game do you think should be #1 ? : humbleone
    • Total Recall NES : pigvomit
    • Probably E.T. : Sailor of Fortune
    • The rest of the top 10 were pretty good picks. But not Goldeneye. : Ebu
    • I thought Riddick was better than Goldeneye. Although it was the best FPS on a console until Halo was rel... : Pettytheft
    • i'd put riddick at #1 : qwpeoriu
  • There's no contest here. It clearly does deserve it. There's not a single movie-based game that is better... : K1Bond007
  • You've either misunderstood what the top 10 was for, or your a spangler. : Beady
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    Seriously? Goldeneye is widely considered one of the greatest first person shooters ever. I'd definitely ... : Polysorbate
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      Then you haven't played enough first person shooters. Goldeneye was shit then, it's shit now, and is c... : Vincent Grayson
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        ^^^ has no friends : sludge vohaul
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          When making these lists, it is important to remove the nostalgia goggles. : Ebu
          • im j/k... he has you! : sludge vohaul
          • When making these lists, it's also important to compare the games to the games that were out at the time ... : timmie
        • I had friends, but I played Quake with them over LAN. : Vincent Grayson
      • Haha it was shit then eh? I still find it fun today. I think people are turned off by the hard to learn c... : datoo
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        Because of its lack of on-line play, you needed a good group of friends to make it as amazing as it was. ... : Polysorbate
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          Masterpiece?! You've got to be shitting me. Screw attack is retarded, I can think of 20 FPS that are way ... : headbone
          • In response to your other post: When Goldeneye was released, quake was still fresh and quakeworld didn't ... : Polysorbate
  • Goldeneye was an amazingly fun game when it came out, especially 4 player deathmatch. : Poor Yurik
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    I'm going to say you are wrong because it is easily the #1 choice. : sigpro
    • There is no way, No Way, that Goldeneye, a crappy throwback FPS, is the best movie-game ever. Listen t... : Ebu
  • wtf? of course it does. : Milleh
  • WPOTD goes to you friend! : ateam311
  • I agree. I didn't like the game when it came out and I still don't. : InfoBiter
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    You probably had no friends to enjoy the multiplayer with. Poor guy =( : Thisispol
    • i was too busy playing quake : mindshot
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    hows it feel to be completely wrong? : maulla
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      I'll let you know when I am. : Ebu
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        You let us know everytime you post. : AgentPothead
        • Ah, Pothead. : Ebu
  • So overrated. : Fred Garvin
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    Of course it is. : thetangent
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      Ok, if you say so. It's totally not : Ebu
      • It was one of the best N64 games of all time. It was one of the most fun multiplayer experiences availabl... : thetangent
  • Agreed. It shouldn't even be on the list. Riddick should've been number 1. : Vincent Grayson
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    WTF? It was pretty much THE game that brought FPS games to consoles. I bet that without goldeneye we woul... : marmite
    • That's a lot of credit to give to a single marginally playable N64 game. Too much. : Ebu
    • The PS1 dual analog controller was announced back in '95 and came out months before Goldeneye :( : roushimsx
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    To those who think Goldeneye sucks, why is that? I can understand not liking the game, but why hate it so... : datoo
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      I think it's the clunky framerate and the unbalanced, primitive multiplayer. I was never a fan of the con... : roushimsx
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        you could turn off the lookspring. : datoo
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          Neat. I actually had some fun playing through the single player, but I really didn't get what anyone saw ... : roushimsx
          • The multiplayer was pretty fun at the time, and you could customize it a lot once you unlocked everything... : datoo
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            The multiplayer was awesome. I must have played hundreds of hours in local coop with it. : razlebol
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              There wasn't coop in Goldeneye. You must be thinking of Perfect Dark. : datoo
              • Err, I meant local multiplayer. : razlebol
      • it wasnt primitive at the time, and its still not primitive really : Luminair
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      It's one of those things where at the time it was out and I played it, I thought "This is pretty unremark... : Vincent Grayson
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        That's weird you only found out later that a lot of people found it amazing. It was one of the top sellin... : datoo
        • Most people I knew didn't own the N64 because the library was so shitty. It didn't really come up until I... : Vincent Grayson
      • Yea, pretty much. : Ebu
  • Agreeeeed. Overrated piece of poo. : ieGod
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    I know, some people seem to equate goldeneye with the best fps which is ridiculous. It's only because it ... : headbone
    • Comparing the multiplayer to online pc gaming at the time is a bit silly. The appeal was the low barrier ... : datoo
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    Spoken like somebody who never played it. Me and my friends played goldeneye multiplayer everyday for ove... : AgentPothead
    • Ok. Except I did play it, and it was maybe as much as "meh," more fairly a "bleh." : Ebu
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  Tron is on XBLA... : pigvomit
  • It was probably what it was originally released for no? : humbleone
• tron 2.0 is missing in that list. : ysbreker
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  i can't read the list? i have to sit through a video? it's the internet, not tv. : cpt_gloval
  • Humbleone posted the list in the first reply... : Dontdrop
• I forgot about that batman game, it was awesome : gmd
• I hated Golden Eye. : Saman
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  I loved that aladin game : maulla
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    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20116975#itemanchor_20116975 :( : roushimsx
    • They were both good. I did prefer the Genesis version though. : razlebol
• if TMNT counts, one of it's titles should be on this list. : rt702
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  T2 Pinball was a good game, probably better than the arcade shooter (though the shooter was pretty good) : retardhumper
  • Also where is Discs of Tron? : retardhumper
  • hell yea, first pinball game i released could be beaten, so much money spent on that bastard. : dignan
  • Really, of all of the good Terminator games released, I wonder why they went with that one. :( : roushimsx
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  Where's Alien3 for SNES? :[ : My Documents
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    You mean Genesis, the SNES version sucked. : Haku-Jin
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      i've always wondered, what makes the genesis version better? : jayares
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        Snes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVZJuNUaVKg Genesis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbSzlX8fQXw : razlebol
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          Um. The SNES version seems far more normal, for lack of a better word. The Genesis one looks awful. : Moonbase Commander
          • I don't know. The genesis version looks more fun. Faster gameplay. The SNES version looks a bit better ex... : razlebol
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          And while we're at it here some more SNES vs Genesis games that had the same title but were completely di... : razlebol
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            Scooby Doo Mystery SNES: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB-ysrpAIMg Gen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... : roushimsx
            • Always wanted to play Scooby-Doo Mystery for genesis but never did. Looks pretty cool. : razlebol
          • Sparkster SNES: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqx4tmtVSTo Gen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayiYd0xH... : roushimsx
• I dont remember if I beat batman at all. I remember the game being very hard. : ultramega
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  but wolverine was BETTER than the movie, as such it should be at #1 : CoRDS
  • its everything the movie should have been. love the violence. : opengl128
• I'd just like to point out that he was incorrectly calling the "Arnold" class T-800, T-1000's. But I'll l... : thetangent
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  I find that list quite agreeable. : ColoradoCNC
  • #10 is a horrible horrible game, i'd rather see Raiders of the Lost Ark for Atari 2600 in place of it. O... : dignan
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  If they could put riddick on there which isn't based directly on a movie but on the universe then they co... : pyide
  • I whole-heartedly agree with this. : skankcore
  • mmm yes fate of atlantis was great : datoo
  • Oh snap, Tie Fighter, #1 easy : Ebu
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  it would be KOTOR but kotor isnt precisely based on a movie : Luminair
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    neither is Escape From Butcher Bay or Assault on Dark Athena. or Batman. or Lost World. so yea! : roushimsx
    • o snap : Luminair

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  Live Updates http://www.macrumorslive.com/ http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/06/apple-wwdc-keynote : Yanks
  • signed on the Snow Leopard front. I wants it!!! : fatman
  • I don't think I'll be home, where can I follow this on my iPhone? :P I'm following MacRumors on tweete... : davidc02
• Haha at the comments: "I've got an iBoner" : Phreakin
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  Have an iphone already. Unless they produce a decent headless mac for $1000 (which they just won't do) i ... : baron calamity
  • Dammit, you had to type my trigger word. The day Apple makes a nice midrange headless I will sing praises... : node
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    what do you mean headless? without a monitor? : Korban
    • yes. Something mid range that can be upgraded. Right now you can either get a cheap imac or macmini that ... : baron calamity
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  goddamn you people are obsessed : askedrelic
  • It's sort of my job to be like that :-/ : Yanks
  • fuck yooooooooooooooou : Korban
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  I am torn, Cheesy Plasticy Palm Pre or More-of-the-same iPhone? I want to support Palm, but I am also a m... : not work safe
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    iPhone... apps, man. apps. : empathe
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      the blackberry bold has become Amazing since its app store has come out. This coupled with the fact that ... : re-verse
      • I go where the developers are... and BlackBerry OS is bad :( : empathe
      • I've known soft keyboards. I've worked with soft keyboards. And the keyboard on the Bold is no soft key... : spazzium
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    haha, I've got a friend with an Ocean also trying to decide which phone to go with. I imagine there's a ... : hawkeye
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      I think my contract is finally up! It was a great phone for its time. Good network, piggybacks on the spr... : not work safe
      • Yeah, that's what I was implying. It's been 2 years since the Ocean came out so everyone that joined Hel... : hawkeye
  • Handle a Pre before you write it off as cheap and plastic. :( : Deathlove
• Depending on the announcement and features announced, I may get an iPod touch this year. : silent77
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  I just want 3.0 : cyclonebee
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    Honestly it's not that groundbreaking. Copy and paste is kind of overrated because the phone was properly... : Yanks
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      Also I would kill a man to be able to turn off rotation on an app-by-app basis. Landscape pisses me off. : Yanks
      • yeah that would be nice : Maarten Goldstein
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      I have only had my iPhone for 2 months and I have wanted copy and paste MANY MANY times. I fucking hate t... : OverloadUT
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        Really? What do you need it for? : Yanks
        • There have been several times when I am sending a text to multiple people (letting everyone know about a ... : OverloadUT
        • For the shitty MMS solution AT&T has, but now since it has MMS it is not needed.. oh well? : TreMetal
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    Its quite underwhelming : Maarten Goldstein
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      I think I'm looking forward to the next LatestChatty app with search and SMs more than iPhone 3.0 : Dave-A
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        Still awaiting approval... And it's 100% compatible with 3.0! : SqueegyTBS
        • This is the best thing since sliced piglets :D : Dave-A
    • Considering I'm already happy with what I have, having: -C+P -MMS -Push -??? I'm not going to say ... : TheNiXXeD
    • Search is not underwhelming to me. I use that search panel every day, esp. the "search on server" for ema... : tashtego
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      MMS would be nice if it worked. I don't think AT&T has turned it on yet :( : mikecyb
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        I thought the intent was they'd turn it on when it was officially released for the iPhone (which is not y... : TheNiXXeD
        • I assume they will, I just want it to work right now! : mikecyb
    • Search, Push, and MMS are extremely exciting to me. : OverloadUT
    • The main thing I just want is MMS. it's so frustrating working around not having it. Push might be nice f... : flooq
  • This. : rosewood
  • When is it meant to be due? : nodebug
• So this is the official WWDC thread? Awesome. I PREDICT $20 IPHONES WITH LASERS : jingletard
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  Whether or not it drops today, video chat will be the killer app of whatever iphone it's released on. We ... : get_navi
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    There will not be video chat. You need a front-facing camera for that. : Lone Swordsman
    • Not today, I mean. There's been no evidence for it. : Lone Swordsman
    • yeah theres alot of speculation on that. Though the new Ipod with have video capabilities and apparently ... : two50six
  • I'd accept 3.0 software dropping today with universal push and iChat. : empathe
  • I don't think it's that big of a pull. Didn't work very well a few years back with the whole 3G Video stu... : Bamtan
  • I can't see how they could do video chat. My Blackberry is on AT&T now (which is the worst service EVER),... : bozer
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    We won't see video chat due to bandwidth and battery life concerns. AT&T's network is bogged down enough... : SolrFlare
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      Awesome, a phone sold across the entire planet is hampered due to the draconian way mobile telephones are... : abrasion
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        You think that our network is much worse than the rest of the world outside of Japan? Doubtful. : Yanks
        • I know for a fact it is. : abrasion
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      Oh I agree. AT&T is pretty well gimped here in Chicago. I'm just saying video chat will be tits. What els... : get_navi
      • Yeah, true there. I imagine it'll happen eventually. But probably not for another one or two revisions. : SolrFlare
  • I can get behind this. With current sustained upload speeds on 3g though, it wouldn't be a good experien... : spazzium
  • I wouldn't use this, I don't even use my webcam : ErneX
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  Ipod classic with more than 200 gigs, please. : Masem
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    I'm not aware of any 1.8" disks coming out in new sizes lately :/ : abrasion
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      Also, ipod = september. : abrasion
      • Meh, ok :/ : Masem
    • Actually I remember hearing that the week the 120GB iPod Classic came out, the hard drive manufacturer fo... : Schnapple
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    what do you need 200gs for? the classic doesnt support video ...do you really have that much music? : cptstern
    • The iPod Classic supports video. : electroly
    • I have about 110 gig of music, and another 40-50 gigs of video (at least) : Masem
    • i'm about to hit 180 gigs in music and i don't even rip my store bought cd's : Break
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  Is iphone os 3.0 supposed to come the day of the new phone or before that? : freshyk
  • No idea. 2.0 came out basically with the iphone 3g, so I wouldn't be surprised if a similar pattern happ... : SolrFlare
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    They said "this summer." Seems like summer has arrived. : spazzium
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      It isn't like summer is over. : breadsticks
      • or that they ever meet deadlines : hawkeye
  • Next week so it'll either be on the same day or quite close. : flooq
• Damn i wish i didn't have to be at work this morning, i'll have no idea what goes on until 5:30 tonight :... : Demius
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  come onnnn, iPod Touch Mini 64GB for $300! : Deathlove
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    ipod announcements are traditionally in September so 99% sure you won't hear anything about ipod products... : SolrFlare
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      Didn't they refresh the Touches at the same time as the iPhone last year? : Deathlove
      • Nope. They did it in September : SolrFlare
  • I said this last year :( the ipod nano 4g is such a piece of shit, I really wanted a touch mini damnit. : abrasion
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  does apple ever do live streams? or is always live blog crap : maulla
  • They used to but stopped a couple years ago. I'm assuming it was due to bandwidth costs. They put the ful... : Mmmmmoo
  • Only time I've ever seen it live is Apple Closed Circuit TV :( I am pretty sure you can watch it in the A... : Yanks
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  How long til it starts? : TastyWheat
  • 53 minutes : Yanks
  • 53 mintues : alnya
  • 35 minutes : dmason
  • 12 minutes : opengl128
  • 6 minutes : cyclonebee
  • 5 minutes : Korban
  • 2 minutes : glory hole
  • -37 minutes : zerog83
• Yes god yes : halophoenix
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  Store is down. : TastyWheat
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    Could be anything though. New Pro apps(Final Cut, Aperture, Logic), new cinema displays, or a dongle. D... : SolrFlare
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      hell it could just be DNS migration. : not work safe
      • somebody could also have fed their mogwai after midnight, and exposed it to water. : xxiv
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    The fact they bring down the store to update their catalog always seems pretty retarded to me. If Amazon... : SqueegyTBS
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      Just another part of the Apple hype machine. : rosewood
      • OMG OMG OMG OMG SITE IS DOWN OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG : MagicWishMonkey
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        THIS NEW PRODUCT IS SO FUCKING GOOD WE HAVE TO SHUT THE STORE DOWN : gmd
        • HEY ASSHOLES WHILE WE TAKE DOWN THE STORE, YOU GET OUT YOUR WALLET COOL : xxiv
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      yes, but how often do they update their catalog? : dopeman
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        the fact that it needs to come down at all, catalog update or not, is the point. : shyguy74
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          You can't have an unveil what you don't veil in the first place. It's not a technical issue, just a mean... : adpalumbo
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            Haha, no. How did you convince yourself of this? : TheNiXXeD
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              What? It's kind of silly to think that its a technical problem, given that keeping the site up is a simp... : adpalumbo
              • The entire point of Squeegy's post is that taking down a site to add a product to their list is a bad pra... : TheNiXXeD
• Has the 3.0 beta been unlocked already? Hopefully not long after 3.0 releases I'll be able to get it up a... : cyclonebee
• I have to chuckle at hearing a keynote from Mr. Shiller : byorn
• all i want is os 3.0 cracked by the devteam running on my 1st gen iphone along with the latest version of... : doomed
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  So is there a site that's live streaming the audio/video? : raeven
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    http://cdn1.ustream.tv/swf/4/viewer.133.swf?cid=272124&varnish=true : davidc02
    • great I just punched a hole in my monitor, now I'm going to miss the keynote : maulla
    • did they just say that brick and mortar stores are pulling the iphones off the shelves? : Matto357
• i expect this to be one of the weaker showings, though i am excited for the new osx. : smacknca
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  STEVE JOBS JUST DIED : dmason
  • That wasn't funny the first time :/ : losimagic
  • Introducing the revolutionary new iPho... hurghghgrghhrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrgh : gmd
  • "I'm getting better!" "No you're not" : one random winner
  • "Oh and one more thing...." *thud* : baron calamity
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  http://www.macrumorslive.com/ : Bamtan
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    I, for one, anxiously await 4chan bringing this down again. : Deathlove
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      speak of the devil...it's down : johngloid
      • Still updating for me. : Deathlove
• Better feed at http://live.gizmodo.com/ : kramweil
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  Oooh new 15" MBP. : Bamtan
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    If it was $1000 and playds sims 3 well I would consider it. ofcourse it isn't... : baron calamity
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      ooh, only off by 70% : Deathlove
      • I know. hehe : baron calamity
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      I would have thought a normal macbook would play the sims3 reasonably well. : Jonathan
      • The previous gen Macbook won't play it at all. I haven't tried it on my last gen MBP yet. : hawkeye
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  "All new 15" MacBook Pro" hmm... : baron calamity
  • With an SD Card slot. nice! : g0nk
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    I thought there already was a unibody 15" MBP : mikecyb
    • but this is "all new"!!! ok, I'm not up on the macbook pro line to know what is different. : baron calamity
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      aw man I wish my macbook had an SD card slot :( : mikecyb
      • son of a bitch!!! : mikecyb
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    256GB SSD, christ. : Bamtan
    • probably a shitty ssd though : Chandler55
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    they would remove the express slot /facepalm : smacknca
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      I'm sure they're right about single digit usage of them, but it still kind of sucks to lose that availabi... : hawkeye
      • im not liking their trend of pushing all the 'high-end' features to the 17. its too damn big for me, th... : smacknca
  • oh come on : Mr.SEX
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  Non removable battery on a 15 MBP... not cool! : mr.thing
  • $1699! Awesome. : not work safe
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  Bollocks, updated 13" as well. : Arsenal
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    Hmm so i now own the only non-Pro Unibody Macbook? : Arsenal
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      haha me too, plus I paid $300 more for it then the new model! : mikecyb
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        err, $200 : mikecyb
        • I don't really give a crap about the SD slot or the Firewire, but a better screen would be awesome.. i re... : Arsenal
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  will they ever release a laptop with a decent fucking graphics card? : maulla
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    9600gt mobile not good? : Chandler55
    • maybe 2 years ago : maulla
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  13" MacBook Pro! : g0nk
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    holy crap $1200 god damnit I bought one like 5 months ago :( : mikecyb
    • Yeah wtf I want the 13" mbp. Maybe I'll sell my current one. : freshyk
  • That thing looks like aluminum sex. I know a crap ton of people that have been waiting for a 13" MBP. : spazzium
• all right, 13" MBP for $1200 is pretty reasonable : Deathlove
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  "The 13" MacBook is now called a MacBook Pro. Starts at $1,199. Cheaper than the MacBook it replaces. Ran... : baron calamity
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    that is fucking awesome, and those can drive the 30 inch display too they also support up to 8gb of ra... : ErneX
    • And it has Firewire again! : Serpico74
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  What is so good about Macbooks that they are so expensive? : whistletits
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    did you miss the dozens of threads over the past two years where people have been buying their macbooks a... : Bamtan
    • yeah, because the last mac i owned was a Macintosh Classic black n white monitor that I played Zork on. : whistletits
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    the 13 inch is a steal, don't troll : ErneX
    • HOW DARE THAT TROLL QUESTION APPLE'S PRICES : gmd
  • runs osx, better design. Though probably not worth the mac tax for most people. I haven't bought a mac co... : baron calamity
  • monster cable makes the wires : WhatIsThisFor
  • Awesome keyboard, best trackpad out there, has multitouch that even works with Windows in Boot Camp, ambi... : Serpico74
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    Because it's "in" : davidc02
    • Yes that is it. You nailed it! : freshyk
  • i want to buy a macbook for photo editing on location : jenisthebest
  • Crashing, screwy trackpad, bad hardware support and oh OSX. : devi| dog
  • build quality and operating system, that's about it. : dopeman
• Call me when they make a netbook. : Fred Garvin
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  damn! $1799 with a 256GB SSD MacBook Air. $700 cheaper than before. : g0nk
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    Its going to be very difficult to pick between a MBP or a MBA when I buy my next notebook in a year... : Serpico74
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      Hah, not for me. I use too many stinking peripherals. : spazzium
      • Opposite for me, I never plug anything in except for power. Once in a blue moon I'll plug in a USB drive ... : Serpico74
• MACBOOORING : askedrelic
• It's fun to watch these announcements, but I wish they wouldn't take 15 minutes to shit all over whatever... : slax0r
• Wish they would stop bringing up "green" but to be honest, I don't care that much on that end. : baron calamity
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  Their argument against Windows is not very compelling. : WhatIsThisFor
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    Yea they bitch about them building on Vista, then move onto building on Leopard.. I was sorta O_o on that... : stonedonkey
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      how is that O_o? Building on sand = bad. Building on rock = good. Not saying that's the truth, but t... : hawkeye
      • I wasn't a fan of Vista at all, and while I think they made some mistakes, I don't think the foundation i... : stonedonkey
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  sweet time for windows bashing, my favorite part of mac talk. <sigh> fuckers just cant take the high ro... : smacknca
  • No kidding. I was kind of contemplating the new 15 inch macbook pro they just announced. Then they quickl... : EricZBA
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  what the hell complexity is in windows 7 : Deathlove
  • its so complex that more software works with it then osx : maulla
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    I like how their assault on Win7 caused some people in the audience to groan. your userbase has expended... : mikecyb
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      I wonder how essential the windows/pc bashing is to their growth these days? think they'd see the same su... : Dave-A
      • They'd see more success if they added more product lines and lower price points. : WhatIsThisFor
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        at this point I'm not sure. Microsoft has gone on the defensive as well with their dumb ads, but honestl... : mikecyb
        • There's no way to show how good an operating system is in 30 seconds. The Apple ads are the perfect way ... : hawkeye
        • What are some examples of things it could do vs a PC though? What did you show them that any run of the ... : stonedonkey
      • I think so. its unnecessary. Lots of people that like OS X don't necessarily like it at the expense of Wi... : Serpico74
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  o shit! "As for the dock, Apple built expose into the dock." : g0nk
  • that's pretty cool! : Dave-A
• exchange.. what? Get back to that it should be the most important topic : bozer
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  wait.. Snow Leopard takes up 6GB less space than Leopard? because that'd be awesome : Mmmmmoo
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    haha now with less than 3gb of HP printer drivers!!! : smacknca
    • and language packs no one needs! : halophoenix
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    How can an OS have 6gb of bloat leftover to spare ? How much gigs does an install take jeebus : MrLobo
    • There's an absurd number of printer drivers and language packs installed by default. Like over 50% of the... : derelict515
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      if you're ever done a customized install of OS X, you'd see. There's a reason why Mac OS is supposed to "... : halophoenix
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        That's what Windows does too, and it's not thaaaaaaaat bloaty (okay, Vista is horribly bloated compared t... : GreatGooglyMoogly
        • -language packs : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • I'm installing OSX 10.5 right now from DVD... Essential System Software = 5.9GB (not optional) Printe... : fatman
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  Hahaha, I knew they had plans for that enormous trackpad! : spazzium
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    wonder if they will start providing some type of pen? your finger is too fat but you dont want to use so... : smacknca
    • It's pretty easy to pick up 3rd party stylus style pens. We used to have these things called Koala pens ... : spazzium
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  Wish Engadget would stop sucking Apple's dick. These stupid comments like "6GB! That's not nothing" are c... : ateam311
  • Macrumors live is the best for that. Engadget is a bunch of dick sucking and Gizmodo is all snide comment... : freshyk
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  Safari 4 out of beta TODAY. : g0nk
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    Nothing is better than firefox : davidc02
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      pffft.. on a Mac, Safari beats the shit outta FireFox.. : g0nk
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        Firebug > * Extensions ftmfw : davidc02
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          You haven't seen the Safari 4 inspector, and you don't even have a Mac, stop trolling gratuitously : ErneX
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            indeed, but ff extensions kick major ass : davidc02
            • I agree with you on that : ErneX
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            I use both, they both have a place. Inspector leaves some stuff out, and Firebug makes me have to restart... : steelsamurai
            • I'm pretty happy with the Safari 4 inspector, and the JS debugger is really nice. The big selling point ... : DianeOfTheMoon
    • Safari is awesome : ErneX
    • Safari always has been better than FF on OSX. : opengl128
    • Safari kicks ass on my MBP : TastyWheat
    • lol : RikiTiki2
  • the browser speed wars continue, and we all win. <3 : epit
  • The Safari 4 beta still crashes somewhat regularly for me, hopefully that's better in the release. Despi... : Barnahog
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  Safari 4 for Leopard, Tiger and Windows.. great another annoying update waiting for me at home today for ... : baron calamity
  • That reminds me, I need to try to murder Apple Software Update the fuck off my computer. : Deathlove
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  the anti windows shit is kinda pathetic. : jarek99
  • fgts : CrustaR
  • The anti-IE shit is completely justified however. Even IE8 can go DIAF as far as performance goes. : hawkeye
  • Windows sucks! Now please go download Safari 4 for it, thx : Dave-A
  • What is crappy is I decided to buy the OS X Leopard certification book (I was getting the Vista one and f... : mtgDoofy
  • terrified of windows 7 i assume, as they should be. : re-verse
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    <mac program name> is now <made up number> times faster than <windows program name> : industro
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      When they're talking about IE and Javascript, it's not a made up number. I hate having to provide fallbac... : Conan
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        IE's js engine is complete shit :( every other browser is working on (or already has) a blazing quick JS... : mikecyb
        • IE8's is way faster than IE6. I don't think you remember how awful IE6 was...IE8 is still far and away t... : hawkeye
  • Ms does the same thing, let it go. Pepsi, Coke, Lays, Pringles, they all do it. Dont take it personal. : two50six
  • The latest commercials with the "legal text" are so fucking lame. Hey Apple, guess what, you have legal t... : Fred Garvin
  • dude, he's a Mac OS developer. What the hell is he gonna say? WINDOWS IS AWESOME DONT MIND US WE'RE AWESO... : halophoenix
• The new quicktime logo kind areminds me of the Xbox 360 logo : EricZBA
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  Quicktime 10 complete overhaul! : g0nk
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    is it now more or less like realplayer ?!!? : Downforce
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      less, more like iTunes now, : g0nk
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        Something tells me eventually they'll just merge Quicktime and iTunes into just 1 app : EricZBA
        • I really don't see why they haven't yet : wasylm
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  I take it that this far into software we shouldn't expect any mac desktop updates. : baron calamity
  • Depends on what you mean; they've already mentioned some that could be considered "desktop" updates. : Conan
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  Ugh the new Quicktime icon looks kinda dumb. : ovrlrd
  • It's XTREME! : Fred Garvin
• Hmmm, I'll have to read up on what advantages the http format has over rtsp for streaming. : spazzium
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  How about they make iTunes on Windows 2.3X faster. Or 2.3X less crashy. : WhatIsThisFor
  • This is an Apple developer conference, why would they talk about Windows other than to make fun of it? : ovrlrd
  • QFT. Really guys, it still sucks. : baron calamity
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  "It also tracks your top sites, giving you a nice panorama of your most viewed webpages." Ahh that cou... : baron calamity
  • you mean a series of shots of http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=xxxxx ? : epit
  • I had to turn on Private Browsing when on the Shack since NWS sites were showing up on the Top Sites thin... : Mmmmmoo
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  Ars is saying Snow Leopard is out in September and will cost $29 : Mmmmmoo
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    You mean $129, yes? $29 would be crazy. : Serpico74
    • 129 is their standard. : spazzium
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      Ars may be wrong, but it does say $29 now. : Conan
      • It is actuall $29. : Conan
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    me thinks someone forgot a digit, say a 1? : smacknca
    • $29.01 : WhatIsThisFor
    • Negative : wasylm
  • That would be a great deal. : dmason
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    that must be a typo : mikecyb
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      no, it's just an upgrade. it doesn't have many new "features" they can sell like 10.5, so they don't want... : askedrelic
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        if thats true its hillarious. under the hood wise its got some awesome new abilities that we have been w... : smacknca
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          the next release after Snow Leopard is going to be full price, with more UI changes (there's a rumored Ma... : ErneX
          • I was hoping Marble would make it into Snow Leopard. :( : rudds
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          Totally, Grand Central, OpenCL, and all the under the hood upgrades for $30? Its a frigging steal if it i... : Serpico74
          • Wow, guess I was wrong : Serpico74
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          what stupidly high price? all I saw were Vista upgrades that were quite cheap : derelict515
          • Presumably not everyone will be upgrading from Vista, considering it hasn't exactly been a resounding suc... : taronish
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        fuck $29 is like an impulse buy for a fucking operating system upgrade, I will buy that the second I can : mikecyb
        • Yeah, i'll certainly be buying it asap at that price.. although knowing Apple that will probably work out... : Arsenal
    • apparently is a PR from Apple, yes $29 : ErneX
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    Will it work for units still on 10.4? I still have 2 Macs I never upgraded. : Lunatic Angelic
    • It's an upgrade price for Leopard users. : Mmmmmoo
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    Holy shit. It really is a 29 dollar upgrade. SOLD!!! : spazzium
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      What a smart move : rosewood
      • I agree. It might have been free had it not been for the exchange licensing :) : spazzium
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    confirmed at $29. That's MADNESS. : halophoenix
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      real question is going to be: can I get to Snow Leopard from 10.4 or 10.3 with $29, or will it be $129 to... : halophoenix
      • it will be 129 from 10.4 or 10.3. $29 from 10.5 : radicus
  • That is effing cheap : pilgrimage
• You can work within a window with Expose enabled now, that's interesting. : Serpico74
• Wow, ESPN renders immediately, that couldn't have anything to do with the massive overhaul that ESPN did ... : Deathlove
• Safari 4: Full History search allows you to Cover Flow through all your browsing history. sweet! i can... : g0nk
• jesus just get to the iphone so I can go on with my day : maulla
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  hmm video editing right inside of quicktime, thats pretty cool actually : two50six
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    Has QT Pro registration carried over into new releases before? I bought Pro a year or two back and don't ... : Bamtan
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      From what I hear they are getting rid of Pro completely, hence the reason for them showing off the editin... : ovrlrd
      • fags : Bamtan
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    Only if it's actually useful. Basic cropping and such might be okay, but I prefer a dedicated video app. : Fred Garvin
    • It's not for you. If your mother can upload a clipped video to YouTube it's useful. : hawkeye
• MACBOOK: YOU WONT END UP ON THE COUCH WITH SOME PROGRAMMED WAGGLE CMDS. : whistletits
• holy fuck Quicktime X looks bad ass!! editing from within, sharing, etc. : g0nk
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  Coverflow history looks pretty, but it seems more of a 'just because we can' feature than something that ... : slax0r
  • i use my history to go back to stuff all the time. i'd love cover flow history.. : g0nk
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    I miss MY LIST OF LINKS :( : Deathlove
    • safari still has a list of traditional bookmarks, you can display it however you want! computer magic! : mikecyb
  • I never ever liked or used cover flow, but browsing history is the one useful place I've ever seen it. It... : Serpico74
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    I use my history all the time via AwesomeBar. : hawkeye
    • I never used my History until the AwesomeBar came around. : deject
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    While the coverflow is sort of useless, it does text searches really fast which might not seem great unti... : Barnahog
    • I don't know how Firefox makes everything so slow. The history interface looks and feels like it hasn't ... : hawkeye
  • I actually love the idea of this future, will i use safari though? Doubtful : snowwolf
  • History is nice but I haven't found Coverflow to be overly useful in any place (iTunes, Finder, iPods, et... : derelict515
  • It's occasionally useful when you know what you're looking for but you've been searching through lots of ... : flooq
  • I don't care as much about the presentation of the history as I do about the text searching of the pages ... : taronish
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  Cracks me up that they dis MS like mad but love their exchange support .... : rosewood
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    If you;re spending half of your "announcement" time ripping on a competitor then you should be doing a be... : Phreakin
    • have you been counting the amount of time they're ripping on Vista? : Bamtan
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      i think you're exaggerating just a little. : halophoenix
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        I'm just sick of them ripping on MS all the time. If you're lagging that far behind, then make something ... : Phreakin
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          They're not lagging behind if you're looking at the laptop market; they're clearly making something peopl... : Conan
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            Their not lagging behind on laptops? I would beg to differ. : Phreakin
            • As of Sept of last year, they were the #4 laptop manufacturer, only behind HP, Acer, and Dell. I guess... : Conan
            • Present your facts, please? : taronish
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    I agree, but this will certainly help me out with a few clients, so i won't complain. : Arsenal
    • Cancel that, requires Exchange 2007.. most of my clients it might help are on SBS 03 still. : Arsenal
  • They only really dis MS consumer products and the consumer experience when using MS products. : adpalumbo
  • You know as well as anyone. Every division at Microsoft is completely different. Exchange is a great pr... : hawkeye
• 64bit native apps and new threading system should make the new mac pros running i7 chips god damn beasts ... : smacknca
• Opencl? : baron calamity
• 1 TERAFLOP!!!! uh huh.. OpenCL. : g0nk
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  Exchange time, there you go Rosewood : g0nk
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    Exchange support is now built into Mail, iCal and Address book. : g0nk
    • yes god yes : halophoenix
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      Exchange 2007 required. Ouch. : hawkeye
      • lol now i get to hear all our mac users bitch about how we're not using 2007 and we're behind the times : industro
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        now THIS is a good symbiotic relationship. mac hardware drives microsoft server software sales. : Downforce
        • Microsoft has tons of software that runs on Macs. They had office software on the Mac before Windows even... : Serpico74
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  I wish they would just tell us when the new iphone presentation is going to be, this is like the ads befo... : gameindustryplant
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    Dunno about that, the Snow Leopard stuff is pretty good so far. : Mmmmmoo
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      Yeah its not bad. If only they would put it on something I would want to buy. I am being serious about th... : baron calamity
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        Okay. We get it. Apple's product line doesn't work for you. Check. : adpalumbo
        • Don't get me wrong, I'm not slaming apple. Its just that I have an idea in my head of the price for the p... : baron calamity
      • All I'm really missing on the OS X side are Valve games. Its basically the reason I have a Windows PC. : Serpico74
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        Well, if Leopard and the current hardware lineup don't interest you then Snow Leopard would be no differe... : Mmmmmoo
        • Well they could have changed their line up. Apple didn't use to ignore the mid range. : baron calamity
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  “Microsoft Office, which of course is a de facto standard.” - just like microsoft Windows. ;) : baron calamity
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    ;) : freshyk
    • (; : ChibiJosh
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  How should we price Snow Leopard? We won’t price it at $129, because we want all Leopard users to upgra... : g0nk
  • !!!!!!!!!!!!!! : Serpico74
  • $29 FUCKING DOLLARS! : g0nk
  • Now thats a price! : baron calamity
  • Should have posted this down here: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20113788 : halophoenix
  • they should've priced it free if they wanted everybody to upgrade : wvuong
• confirmed on the keynote: 29 dollars : ErneX
• hah nice last minute slide, only supports exchange 2007 and above. lol many corporations are barely at 2... : smacknca
• nice! Snow Leopard only $29 for Leopard users : two50six
• interesting : http://www.tuaw.com/2009/06/08/iphone-3g-demo-units-are-going-going/ TLDR: iphone demo u... : losimagic
• Oh fucking SNAP $29 to upgrade to Snow Leopard : TastyWheat
• woop Jason Chen and new iPhone shit : two50six
• IPHONE TIME : zerog83
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  what the hell is the 'family pack'? is that the full version? : mikecyb
  • multiple licenses, I think its 5 : snowwolf
  • Multiple licenses if you're a moral buyer I'm not : hawkeye
  • if you own multiple computers you want to upgrade. : baron calamity
  • when you buy the 29 version its only licensed to a single machine. family packs are how you legally buy ... : smacknca
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    I think a family pack is 3 or 4 licenses. : Jonathan
    • 5 license : radicus
  • 5 licenses : ErneX
• IPhone info time. : bstrad
• Yay iPhone stuff starting now : OverloadUT
• ah, the pregame is over : Deathlove
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  "40 million is a gigantic base for development. That’s bigger than a lot of game consoles." Thats a big... : baron calamity
  • And the fact that it doesn't take millions of dollars to develop a game for the iPhone that will be reaso... : hawkeye
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  Hrm... I wonder if I could drop the new battery into my existing Macbook? : walker270
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    THe new batteries are built in and around, it's non-removable. : Deathlove
    • Yeah and likely it would not fit at all since it's probably bigger and it's not enclosed in a battery cas... : ovrlrd
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      damnit... Anyone want to buy a Macbook? Only 1 month old.. : walker270
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        I know the feeling, but honestly you should have kept up with your rumors and the time between releases. ... : ovrlrd
        • Uhh.. I did. Everything was pointing to October/November for the Macbook/Macbook Pro refresh. : walker270
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  1 BILLION APPS DOWNLOADED* *250m are iFart : Deathlove
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    I can't believe how rich that guy got selling digital farts : mikecyb
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      Think about it for five minutes and then try saying that again. : Deathlove
      • dude I was barely able to type that without having a seizure don't get me started I wish I had thought of : mikecyb
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  Ok, its a given that Apple is going to slam MS for the increased price of Windows 7 at some point, especi... : Serpico74
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    I have heard Win7 will actually be cheaper than previous versions : mikecyb
    • Everything I've read as far says that Win7 will cost more than Vista. This includes quotes by representat... : Serpico74
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  Developers, developers, developers, developers! : Mmmmmoo
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    I was at a baseball game, and they showed a commercial for my app, and I watched a bunch of fans pull out : hawkeye
    • The audience should have yelled out, 'PICS or it didn't happen!' : Frozen Pixel
    • I know I rag on Apple a lot but my God is the mlb.com app sex and candy. : Deathlove
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  i bet if Jesus came back to earth, he wouldn't get as much as apple does. Weird i dont see anything re... : hanged_man
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    Yeah, it's wild how Apple can't alter space time to make everything happen instantly. : hawkeye
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      there's an app for that : mikecyb
      • lol : g0nk
      • hahahahahah : MagicWishMonkey
    • FUCK MICROSOFT APPLE : walker270
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  Release 3.0 today :( : davidc02
  • This is my number 1 hope :( : OverloadUT
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    Landscape in everything is going to annoy the shit out of me. : hawkeye
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      Just don't use it? : OverloadUT
      • You've never noticed the phone switching to landscape when you don't want it to? : hawkeye
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      yeah i hate it when i'm in bed checking my iphone and i have to keep it at an angle. i hope there's a set... : Bamtan
      • there's not, but landscape is awesome : mikecyb
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    Oh also, add this to the keyboard: "~" : davidc02
    • But it's already there.... : adpalumbo
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    “AT&T will be ready to support MMS later this summer.” FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU : EricZBA
    • Wasn't later this summer when 3.0 is coming out anyway? : slax0r
    • IE: They're still developing a plan that people will use and they can still rape them on. : Phreakin
• WAH WAH WAAAAAAAAAAAH : maulla
• fuck you AT&T really?! REALLY?!?! : two50six
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  “AT&T will be ready to support MMS later this summer.” Fail. FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL. : g0nk
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    Wait what the fuck does this mean. They say 29 carriers will support MMS but not AT&T? Isn't AT&T the onl... : OverloadUT
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      iPhone is exclusive to AT&T only in the US : mikecyb
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        only for another year, right? verizon is going "lol what the fuck" right about now : Downforce
        • if the iPhone was available on Verizon I'd probably switch back. AT&T is okay but their coverage is rand... : mikecyb
      • Oh I thought each major region was also locked to a single carrier so they would only need support from l... : OverloadUT
    • The Rest of The World. : Deathlove
  • Jason Chen on the Gizmodo live blog is pissed : EricZBA
  • holy christ jason chen, cry some more : mikecyb
  • I really want to smack that guy. Yeah, it sucks, but that doesn't mean you get to spew your word vomi... : slax0r
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    I want to know wtf. Were they surprised by this? AT&T is pretty much complete morons. : hawkeye
    • yeah they are a bizarre carrier : mikecyb
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    isn't that a good thing? why are we complaining now? : RikiTiki2
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      Because it makes no sense to the users why cheap shitty phones can MMS currently, but you can't with your... : TheNiXXeD
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        but you can in a few months, where you couldn't before. that's good? : RikiTiki2
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          Surely you aren't questioning why the internet is complaining? : TheNiXXeD
          • thanks for reminding me that it's the internet : RikiTiki2
  • Haha, it's really no surprise with AT&T though. : spazzium
• From the wording, 3.0 won't be released today :( : TastyWheat
• haha man att is seriously just an awesome carrier to have the iphone on. mms by summer, when they are re... : smacknca
• Such a shame they locked themselves into AT&T. The iphone is so awesome yet its like its a Ferrari being ... : bozer
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  AT&T will be ready at the end of the Summer. That sounds exactly like the ATT I know. : spazzium
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    "How can we fuck this up and drag our feet more?" Bunch of slackers. : hawkeye
    • In my line of work it's more like "WOULD YOU STOP SITTING ON THE GODDAMN PO AND APPROVE IT ALREADY." I w... : spazzium
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  So 3.0 in the rest of the world today, US when they feel like it? lol GO GO UK! : losimagic
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    No way. There would be riots : EricZBA
    • well (29 carriers in 76 countries will support MMS at launch -- AT&T not until later this summer) ... : losimagic
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    They can release 3.0, but MMS just won't work in the US. : Deathlove
    • oh true, I didn't think of that :) : losimagic
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  Finally iTunes U on the phone. That took too long. : skilesare
  • What is iTunes U? : OverloadUT
  • They better support Podcast downloads over 3G too. That shit pisses me off (because you can stream 100% ... : hawkeye
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  Bluetooth tethering gets me sweaty : TastyWheat
  • lol @ AT&T : TastyWheat
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  haha, suck it, everyone on AT&T *sends MMS on his five year old phone on sprint* : Deathlove
  • well, probably all the other phones in AT&T do this. just not iPhone. : Ariakus
• Tethering.. Sweet : davidc02
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  Official tethering makes me wonder how long until we see that on the Pre. : rosewood
  • Unless of course ATT doesn't play that : rosewood
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  ooh, tethering : Mmmmmoo
  • except AT&T. haha : Mmmmmoo
• internet tethering woo : WhatIsThisFor
• Yeah, really, US, you're not getting MMS, you're sure as SHIT not getting tethering. : Deathlove
• hahahah fuck at&t : maulla
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  good, tethering. now i can get a netbook and have an actual internet connection at work : Clay
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    wait, no AT&T? : Clay
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      hahahaha so its basically useless in the USA : hamachi
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        i'm getting sick of at&t : Clay
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          AT&T sucks balls. I work those assholes all the time and everything about their company sucks. : fatman
          • Haha, I do to. Are you guys a contractor? : spazzium
  • sure you can, once they start selling the iphone on another provider : maulla
  • Not if you're on AT&T you're not : OverloadUT
  • Unless you happen to have AT&T. Then you will be waiting even longer for it. : ovrlrd
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    I wonder if no tethering with AT&T is because of the cheaper data plans we have in the US. Either way, bl... : Serpico74
    • Nah, AT&T would likely offer it as something extra you have to pay for like all the other phones that sup... : ovrlrd
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  ::smiles at his Palm Pre:: my precious : whistletits
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    Lucky you. I want one but don't want to pay $70 mo just like all other carrier data plans. :( : pap26
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      $70 isn't bad for all data,text, plan : whistletits
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        I know, but its hard to cough up /the extra $40 mo for the data/text. Just me I guess. :( : pap26
        • this is my first smart phone actually. : whistletits
        • There is a credit union deal with sprint which knocks 25% off. : loboVT
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  I have a feeling that Apple may announce that AT&T is no longer exclusive at the end of this. : skilesare
  • haha no kidding : Maarten Goldstein
  • Throw those jerks under the bus, I'll go back to T-Mobile in a second if it happens. : Serpico74
  • you wish (and so do i) : smacknca
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    The only problem is who the fuck else are they going to use? The iPhone is a GSM phone. T-Mobile sucks ... : hawkeye
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      Verizon would be able to do it : bozer
      • but they'd cripple half the features on the phone. : hirez
      • Verizon mobile staffs their billing department with retards. I rather go without. : baron calamity
      • Verizon cripples their phones. Sprint has terrible customer service. AT&T doesn't have MMS support. T-... : Deathlove
    • sell it god damn unlocked with gsm and cdma versions, the chipsets are out there. also tmo 3g, while i f... : smacknca
• Teathering! not available in the US aahahaha : epit
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  FUCK YEAH Optus supports tethering. HOT HOT HOT : TastyWheat
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    Did they have a list? Was Rogers on there? : Dave-A
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      http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/06/wwdc-2009-keynote-1386-rm-eng.jpg ;0 : TastyWheat
      • aw yeah :D : Dave-A
    • Unless Rogers ups their usage ..... : rhuntley12
  • Glad i never paid for a tethering app in the past, but i do wonder what battery life will be like, all th... : Arsenal
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  Tethering confuses me. So since AT&T won't support it, I would need a second carrier for my phone to do i... : baron calamity
  • you'd need a carrier outside the US.. : g0nk
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    Other carriers in the US don't allow it, either, but there are ways around that. I'm sure that you can te... : Deathlove
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      You can. : Omning
      • Yeah, that's what I thought. Official support is all well and good, but come on now. : Deathlove
  • I think it's just taking AT&T longer to decide on the tethering thing. They probably will support it even... : ovrlrd
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    No. It means that everywhere else in the world people get tethering but not in the US. : OverloadUT
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      Mobile data plans are also $$$ in most of the world compared to what we pay in the US. If AT&T allows tet... : Serpico74
      • At least hope they're reasonable. Sprint charges $15/month for tethering if you already have a smartphone... : Prozium
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    What is tethering? : Sgt_Boomstick
    • using the phone as a internet connection for a pc : Clay
  • I suspect AT&T won't give you tethering due to the fact you guys get unlimited data for bugger all.. very... : Arsenal
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  I'm gonna go with a big FUCK YOU to ATT. : Matto357
  • more like gayT&T : gmd
  • Indeed - couldn't say it better myself. Hopefully there'll be a soft-unlock available in the jailbreak a... : genom
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  THIS TETHERING IS NOT AVAILABLE IN YOUR REGION. : TastyWheat
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    Hahahaha I feel so fucking good saying that : TastyWheat
    • lol : Mmmmmoo
    • Tasty I love you, that is awesome. : abrasion
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  ok thats kind of cool : maulla
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    If you are a sadomasochists and subscribed to MobileMe : EricZBA
    • I kept MobileMe after my trial expired, I really like it. Even during the rough opening patch I had no is... : Serpico74
  • Ahhhh...women can now be entrusted with iPhones. /ducks : skilesare
• uggh would they just get to the shit people want to know? : two50six
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  haha find my iphone is awesome, except I always lose it in my house! : mikecyb
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    it'll play a sound whether or not it's in silent mode so you can find it : Omning
    • yeah I posted that before they said that. I was like "okay GPS is useless if it's under a pile of laundr... : mikecyb
    • That's an amazing feature truly...not even sarcastic. : hawkeye
  • You can remotely tell it to repeat a sound so you can find it, even if it's in silent mode!! : OverloadUT
  • Lets you send your phone a message -- a special alert sound will play, regardless if your phone is on sil : hirez
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  also assuming the person doesnt pop the sim out after they steal it : maulla
  • A misplaced phone is ridiculously more common than a stolen phone. Find my phone is solving a real probl... : adpalumbo
  • technically the phone still registers on any available network for emergency services. if they have part... : smacknca
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  Find My iPhone is pretty fucking cool but it sounds like you'll need a MobileMe subscription? : OverloadUT
  • yup. : g0nk
  • I was going to cancel MobileMe when my sub ran out too...now I'm not sure :\ : hawkeye
  • Yeah, they had to come up with yet another thing to get people to buy MobileMe. It's kind of hard to conv... : ovrlrd
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  Hmmmm. I am guessing that they aren't actually going to announce a phone. This is starting to run long. : Yanks
  • Has Steve made an appearance yet? : baron calamity
  • nah, they've got plenty of time left... it's not done till it's done. : losimagic
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    they would save that until the end : mikecyb
    • yep thats what theyve done before. : two50six
  • Well considering they arent doing Macworld anymore to announce products, this would be the time to do it. : two50six
  • I've started to wonder that too after they've presented all the keynote slides so far using the current 3... : Nitrium
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  Why would they limit in app purchases to paid apps? Isn't that cutting off a huge section of the market? : skilesare
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    It does seem a little odd. : Jonathan
    • I guess it is to keep everyone releasing the app for free and then charging for the first piece of data. : skilesare
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    They want to make sure that when people download Free apps, they don't get the "bait and switch" and it t... : OverloadUT
    • Exactly. : adpalumbo
    • This. : Bamtan
  • As a user I'm thrilled that they've done that. It helps prevent nagware. It would be too easy to push o... : adpalumbo
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    I think the idea is they don't want free apps to bombard people with "BUY SHIT" messages. so free is alw... : mikecyb
    • Actually, if you have pretty much more than one "Buy full version" button they'll reject you so you are s... : Yanks
  • Maybe to avoid a free app turning into a paid one? Maybe to keep free apps free? : byorn
  • Yes. But it also cuts off the potential for the app store to get cluttered with "free" nickle-and-dime a... : qsylvr
  • I'd guess they don't want apps that are "free", but essentially require purchases to be useful. : genom
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  I am disappointed with "free apps remain free". I was hoping people would use in-app downloading as a way... : OverloadUT
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    It would be slicker, but then you'd never see full-featured games for Free, they'd all be trialware. : Deathlove
    • I don't see why the feature would make people who are choosing to release free apps now change their mind... : OverloadUT
  • Thats what I was thinking : maulla
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    yeah, I'm not sure it solves the problem they want it to either. You could release a .99 app then have a... : hawkeye
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      I would think the review system (both Apple software review and the X/5 star review) would address this i... : TheNiXXeD
      • their review system is inconsistent so I wouldn't count on it : mikecyb
    • You have to draw the line somewhere. Free=Free is clear and simple and those are good things for users, ... : adpalumbo
  • so just make a $0.99 app that gives a free download credit once you install the "base" app. Easy and meet... : fatman
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  So far, so boring : rosewood
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    only if you are on AT&T :D : Maarten Goldstein
    • >:-( : Matto357
    • or sprint : rosewood
    • haha >:( : baron calamity
    • why is LOL down : Deathlove
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    Huge price drop on notebooks, Firewire back in the 13" models, OS 10.6 is awesome and $30 for the upgrade : Serpico74
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      didnt they unveil the 3G iphone 2.0 then? : whistletits
      • No, that was last June. : Serpico74
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        The 3G iphone that has been in stores for about a year was just unveiled at macworld a few months ago? : Prozium
        • no not that one the other iphone 3G :P : whistletits
      • they are still droning on about new app support <yawn> : smacknca
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      any word on if the 13" MBP will have the dual GPU options? : Prozium
      • The slide said no, 9400M only. : coldfusioncs
      • 9400 only looks like : EricZBA
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        No, but I'm guessing not. That would now be the main thing that distinguishes the 15" and 13" models. You... : Serpico74
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          damn, Now I gotta decide if I wanna shell out the extra $300 for the 15". So it has the 9600gt, better ba... : Prozium
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            Keep in mind you only get the 9600gt addition at the $1999 price point for 15" MBP now. The cheaper 15" ... : icking fudiot
            • yeah, engadget has a nice guide up detailing the new lineup. Guess I'll be going with the 13" MBP. (altho... : Prozium
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      What I don't get is why did they put the Pro name on the 13"? Why not just drop the Pro name from ALL the... : ovrlrd
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        I'm thinking for a later even announcing a new Macbook (netbook) : hawkeye
        • Having already announced an upgraded Air it seems unlikely... I mean really, what is the target market fo... : Arsenal
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        IMO they should have called the 13" unibody model a MBP in the first place. It was the successor to the o... : Serpico74
        • Hmm you do have a point about the price, I guess this is basically Apple correcting the mistake they made... : ovrlrd
• game looks slick as hell : maulla
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  "stream EKG information over 3G" pretty cool for doctors! : g0nk
  • We tend to forget about the amazing niche apps the iPhone has. : hawkeye
  • that looks so awesome. the future is now. : opengl128
• Suddenly I feel like i'm watching a blog of the ubisoft e3 press event. :\ Zzzzzzzzzzz : baron calamity
• so cool! http://photos.media.macrumorslive.com/p/2009-06-08/f1244485125.jpg : hirez
• can anyone recommend a blog/site for iphone 3.0 development? specifically I'm trying to understand the... : hamachi
• Next demo, ScrollMotion -- creates digital books for the App Store. "Hi, We're scroll motion. Last mo... : skilesare
• hmm book store looks interesting. : baron calamity
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  I have to say I am very much looking forward to installing Snow Leopard on my computer later this week. V... : Yanks
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    What was the release date for the official version? : hawkeye
    • They said September but a "near final" version is being handed out today. : Yanks
    • September ? : Bamtan
    • IIRC they said September : genom
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  TomTom up next! : g0nk
  • I'm interested but I'm sure they're going to price it at something retarded :( : hawkeye
  • TOMTOM YAAAAAAAAAY!!! : TastyWheat
  • If I can get this thing in the next month it will save me $200 for my road trip. : skilesare
  • TomTom i will buy, as long as they realise they can't charge the same price they do for a standalone unit... : Arsenal
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    man, i hope that app is cheap-ish : Cheeziologist
    • they didn't mention a price....my guess is $125 with the charger/mount included : Cheeziologist
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  What the fuck student is dumb enough to try and use their iPhone to replace their textbooks. I know I'm a... : Deathlove
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    the iPhone is lighter than a backpack full of books.. : g0nk
    • So is the Kindle, except that's a much better surface for reading. : Serpico74
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    Depends...price might be a huge factor. That and whether or not it's easy to get the books out onto a la... : genom
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      No. They will still charge a retarded amount of money for a digital copy of a textbook. It's not the prin... : coldfusioncs
      • Indeed - it's a matter of whether they'll be *less*, even by a relatively small amount. I'd imagine they... : genom
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  Looks like I'm going to need to buy a combo charger and windshield mount for my iPhone. : OverloadUT
  • That looks like a pretty nice little accessory. : hawkeye
  • i will buy their accessory! : grendel
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    Oh well shit they're selling an official one haha : OverloadUT
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      Although technically illegal in California! : OverloadUT
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        It's legal to put it in the left lower corner, just not the middle. : adpalumbo
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          Ah interesting. You seem to be correct according to 26708(a)(3) http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc2... : OverloadUT
          • Oh and (b)(12) specifically covers GPS devices. Awesome :D : OverloadUT
      • I thought this was repealed recently. : Greymatter42
      • What? Prove it. : spazzium
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        you just cant have it up by your rearview or in the middle of the dash - you can mount it in the upper ri... : hirez
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          Vehicle code says only the lower left or lower right. And there is a size limitation. Lower right can be ... : OverloadUT
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            wtf is my CHP friend telling me then. He told me upper! he just wants me to get a ticket. bastard. : hirez
            • what crack smoker wrote this bill: This bill would additionally exempt from these provisions a portable : hirez
  • Damn good thing it charges too - GPS eats the battery like crazy. : genom
  • C-C-C-C-COMBO CHARGER! : BlackCat9
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  TomTom apparently is 3.0 only then, but cool nonetheless. : Yanks
  • Yeah they had announced that the 3.0 license would be amended such that GPS apps would be allowed, but "b... : Schnapple
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  oh shit, that TomTom car kit looks awesome! http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/wwdc2009/wwdc2009-644.jpg : g0nk
  • I can't tell for sure, but I get the idea that this has a built in fm transmitter to sync with your car s... : skilesare
  • honestly, i've been needing something like this! if it has audio out jack, i can wire it into the AUX in ... : g0nk
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  for fucks sake get to the hardware : maulla
  • it's probably not going to happen this is already 90 minutes long : Yanks
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  oh look that company has a smiley face in their name let's burn down that company hint: This is not... : Deathlove
  • Except they make really awesome iPhone games. : hawkeye
  • seriously, they followed up tomtom with tower defense? FFS : Cheeziologist
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  StarDefense is launching today, but 3.0 features will be available "around the time of OS 3.0 launch" : TastyWheat
  • FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- : TastyWheat
  • No 3.0 today :/ : askedrelic
  • Damn it. : spazzium
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  "The game is launching today for $5.99; 3.0 features available around when iPhone 3.0 OS is released." ... : genom
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    I don't think there was much doubt of that. : Yanks
    • Looks like it'll be the 17th - not bad. : genom
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  there are going to be a lot of pissed off people if they don't announce a new fucking iphone. nobody ... : xxiv
  • Close to 40,000,000 :) : d3tached
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    I don't give a shit about the tower defense shit either, but i don't really see why anyone should be piss... : Arsenal
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      because i'm waiting on the new one to upgrade from my first gen. : xxiv
      • Well sure, but it's not exactly Apple's fault you're expecting a new one.. they haven't said anything abo... : Arsenal
• I hope I'm wrong but its looking like this is all there will be :( : EricZBA
• the parade .... of... developers....... must..... end...... : baron calamity
• At least I can finally buy that damned game. : WhatIsThisFor
• hahaha what? "There will be free updates and priced expansions. You can acquire these updates right throu... : Nitrium
• Hopefully TomTom will be able to pause your music between directions. My Garmin even rewinds the audioboo : Jonathan
• Star Defense looks cool, but I refuse to pay for expansions. It would wind up being a $30 game with all n... : theangrywaffles
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  lol who cares about a fucking balloon? come on : two50six
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    i'd buy a fucking-balloon. difference is - it blows you. : Dave-A
    • Is that the soviet iphone ballon demo? ;) : baron calamity
• I'm calling keynote jumped the shark at tower defense. It's all downhill from here : Cheeziologist
• Scott Forstall just came out in a ridiculous scientist outfit .... : Mmmmmoo
• lol Gizmodo: "Ooh, the demo fails onstage. But the graph appears anyway. It’s magic, people. Magic." : g0nk
• The ballon demo fails. in more than one way. : baron calamity
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  ohhhhhhhh myyyyyyyy goooooooooooooddddd : maulla
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    jobs is rolling over in his death bed right now : maulla
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      If there was a god Steve would have burst on the stage yelling at the ballon man for ruining his show. : baron calamity
      • Then showed off the new gun app by executing the failed presenter. : hawkeye
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  wtf? We don't care about your apps. : skilesare
  • That science app is pretty amazing sounding. That said, yeah, I want to know if there will be a new iP... : hawkeye
  • I'm intrigued by the apps that integrate with external equipment but no so much with general apps. : Jonathan
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  ok enough with the developers we get it, billions of apps, we already know this. Move on : two50six
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    BILLIONS OF APPS. HERE'S ALL OF THEM : Serpico74
    • wtf they are selling us apps now, isnt that what the App Store is for? f*Q@ : two50six
• <hunter thompson> FINISH. THE FUCKING. STORY. </hunter thompson> Seriously. Update: NOC : slax0r
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  Is Flash support the only thing that will save this boring presentation? : davidc02
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    No. Only a new phone announcing 3.0 is now will save it. : skilesare
    • a NON-EXCLUSIVE one... : Downforce
  • Real flash support will never happen. : Horn
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    1 hour and 37 minutes in...I think the only thing that wills ave it is if Steve himself shows up with the... : EricZBA
    • I still think Steve w/ iPhone 3 will be the one more hting : rosewood
  • There's no flash support coming. : spazzium
• GET ON WITH IT : Deathlove
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  Are they going to announce new hardware ( new iphone) today or is that not likely? : Sgt_Boomstick
  • They did last year. We'll know soon enough if they do this year. : Serpico74
  • maybe they are stalling so that the hardware developers have another 3 months development time. : baron calamity
  • all we know at this point is that they are filling for a good 30 minutes now with a run down of friggin a... : smacknca
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  You can drive your car with an iPhone, yet you can't see flash ads. : davidc02
  • you are on a roll aren't you? : ErneX
  • LOL : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
  • Sounds like a win/win : DOOManiac
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  I wish I could unlock my normal house / car from my phone : rosewood
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    I really really want to see a nice robust IR emitter on the thing. It would make potentially apps for it... : spazzium
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      Doesn't that take a lot of battery power? I remember having that TV remote control app for my Palm IIIe ... : electroly
      • Hmm. Nope. It's just a little diode. Your Palm was most likely and IRDA which works passively like a r... : spazzium
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  AAPL -2.94% : skilesare
  • After running up over 50% in the last three months. If I was up at 6:30 I'd have shorted the crap out of ... : Serpico74
  • check again now. :D : halophoenix
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  This zipcar app actually does look pretty fucking amazing. : OverloadUT
  • That's some futuristic shit right there. : hawkeye
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    It's an amazing tech demo but ultimately who gives a fuck? You know how I unlock cars I rent? I use the k... : Deathlove
    • Fucking luddite, GET WITH THE TIMES : askedrelic
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      To get the key you would need to go to an office or a desk of some kind of fill out retarded paperwork. T... : OverloadUT
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        Can the iPhone emulate keyfobs? Because otherwise you still need a key! : Deathlove
        • I don't know why you think this. They showed right there that it functions via the Internet. You click "u... : OverloadUT
    • Keys can be lost, though! It's well known that the iPhone is impossible to lose! Just think: no more lock : drazz
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      Where exactly are you getting this magical key from? You realise these cars you just pick up in the stree... : Arsenal
      • That is actually really really awesome. So you'd just bill via the iPhone and the grab the car and go? : Serpico74
    • that's not how zipcar works though. you sign up for it and you get a little fob thing that unlocks all z... : mikecyb
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  This is almost as bad as Nintendos keynote this yet at E3 : two50six
  • They saved it in the end imo : davidc02
  • the app demos are fucking boring, what I dig the most so far is up to 8gb on the new macbook pros, they a... : ErneX
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  Control my guitar and amp from my iPhone? THEY HAVE KNOBS. YOU CAN TURN THEM. SOME THINGS DO NOT NEED TO ... : Deathlove
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    deathlove i went and bought a pre, and when i came back they were still demoing apps : maulla
    • I think they're demoing apps just to show that they can demo more apps in a presentation than Palm has in... : Deathlove
  • I would imagine it is more for sound engineers. How many times have you had a show interrupted by the gu... : skilesare
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  HOLY GOD MAKE IT STOP BURNING!! Enough with the developers already!! Where's Jobs with the new iPhone 3G... : g0nk
  • Maybe they are stalling untill they finish cloning Steve Jobs. : baron calamity
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    Yes! The Worldwide Developers Conference has focused too much on developers! What were they thinking? : Jonathan
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      ok, point taken. Its still kind of boring. : baron calamity
      • WWDC is always kind of boring, although IMO its the most exciting one so far with the MBP and 10.6 stuff. : Serpico74
• People are getting antsy. iPhone apps are great, but they’re all here for the iPhone hardware. Is it? I : two50six
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  please let there be "one last thing..." : d3tached
  • And let it be something OTHER than an app. : baron calamity
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  I don't own a Mac. I own an iPhone. So why is that the presentation for the apps I can use is actuall... : slax0r
  • because Snow Leopard has lots of neat features for a very affordable price and while these apps are cool ... : mikecyb
  • That's because Apple's software is generally way better than 3rd party stuff. But, this is a conference f... : ovrlrd
• haha I went to a meeting like a half hour ago expecting to come back to an new iPhone announcement and th... : mikecyb
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  this Scott Forstall dude has failed all day : two50six
  • ok 3.0 OS available June17th which we've all speculated : two50six
• it kinda sucks for Apple that all these 3rd party developers are coming on and fucking up. : sKetchflow
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  Can adjust guitar tuning without actually physically changing anything -- nothing can be demoed however, : Deathlove
  • I like Somewhere Steve Jobs is shaking his fist in anger. : spazzium
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  3.0 June 17 : TastyWheat
  • nice! only a little over a week away! : g0nk
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  iPhone OS 3.0 will be free for all iPhone customers. $9.95 for iPod touch. lol poor iTouch guys.. : g0nk
  • Eh that is what it was originally announced to be priced at. Still lame. : d3tached
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  iPhone os 3.0, free for phone users. $9.95 for touch users. releases June 17th : re4ctor
  • Only 1/3 the cost of Snow leopard. Those fuckers. : rosewood
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  fuck you charging ipod owners to update. fuck fuck fuck : maulla
  • Seriously. What's the fucking point? That's like convincing me not to update, since it won't even be able... : coldfusioncs
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    Yeah what the fuck is that? Paying for an update? What? : bozer
    • Two reasons a) You paid like $230 for your device, iPhone users paid $600 ($400 of which AT&T covered)... : Schnapple
  • That's what you get for buying the wrong thing : Schnapple
  • nothing new, theyve always done that. : two50six
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  June seventeeeeeeeeeeeennnn : Mmmmmoo
  • That's not bad at all, I'm good with that. : spazzium
• Here it is.... : losimagic
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  I get the GM seed today! : kramweil
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    What is a GM seed? : skilesare
    • Gold Master seed for Apple Developers. : kramweil
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  Omg the building just exploded in a fire ball. Oh the humanity. : rosewood
  • OHHH THE HUGE MANATEEE : grendel
• HERE IT COMES GUYS!! : g0nk
• oh shit here it comes... : zerog83
• IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN : Patch-e
• Yes. You have apps. We get it. : rosewood
• “I can’t read [the Pre number], it’s small.” So much bitterness from Phil. lol : Mmmmmoo
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  iPhone 3Gs - speed lol : re4ctor
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    Apple is turning into a car company. : sKetchflow
    • iPhone Type R? : drazz
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  iPhone 3GS : TastyWheat
  • Makes me remember back to the Apple II GS (still the best version of Bard's Tale) : genom
• iPhone 3GS! : g0nk
• haha, oh, palm, only being out for two days, look at you : Deathlove
• and there it is, the 3Gs : two50six
• omg new "iPhone 3GS" : Mmmmmoo
• Haha this is going to be the biggest cocktease of all time. : Nitrium
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  I'm shocked Android got 9% of the browsing market fast. : stonedonkey
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    Remember they're competing against browsers that don't even work though, it's not really a fair fight. : hawkeye
    • True, I was just surprised they sold that many phones :) : stonedonkey
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  Iphone GS. The s stands for salt...err... speed! : baron calamity
  • Is that a built in FU F ME? : rosewood
• The S is for THUPER! : zerog83
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  'It has “the same great design of the iPhone 3G”' Bah I was hoping for a thinner/lighter model. : d3tached
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    I was hoping they'd ditch the smooth shiny bezel, hate the way that thing scratches up. : Serpico74
    • I would upgrade just for that. :/ : freshyk
• Launching SMS in less than 2 seconds sold this to me already... : davidc02
• The s could stand for "sucks down battery life" : baron calamity
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  The 3GS now supports OpenGL|ES. It also supports 7.2 Mbps HSDPA. : g0nk
  • price point is the most important thing. that and availability : Fyunch Click
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    does ATT even have an HSDP+ netowrk? : Cheeziologist
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      Supposed to be done rolling out at some point next year, we'll see. : Serpico74
      • Supposedly. With AT&T I'll believe it when I see it. Fuckholes can't even get MMS right. : hawkeye
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  lol app support is gonna be a bitch. regular speed and SUPEROMGFAST speeds. : smacknca
  • Yeah i have to admit i really didn't think Apple would do the upgraded hardware thing because of this. Oh... : Arsenal
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  New camera is 3MP autofocus : re4ctor
  • really? but thats the same number of G's it has. is that a coincidence? : Luminair
  • autofocus looks pretty sweet : re4ctor
  • fucking finally. The iPhone's camera was awful. : hawkeye
  • video is 30fps vga w/sound. works with autofocus, and you can edit and share video on the phone. : re4ctor
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  But but but I only bought my iPhone like 2 months ago! : OverloadUT
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    haha 1 month ago here :-( : opengl128
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      Suckers. This has been known to be coming for a lot longer than that. : rosewood
      • 1st day 1st gen phone. Looking to upgrade. :) : LoioshDwaggie
      • I've been waiting for 3 months to buy :P : Trepex
    • heh well but this news hardware was kinda expected : Nitrium
    • Just over or just under a month? I think you can return within 30 days. : Prozium
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    And thus begins a whole new generation of whiners. : ovrlrd
    • Nah, once he's on the level 4 Kool-Aid doses, he upgrades immediately like the rest of the fan base. : spazzium
  • 0wned!!! : CrustaR
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    the CEO of my company bought one YESTERDAY : zerog83
    • I saw tons of people buying iPhones when I was at the Apple store last Friday. This is normal really, I h... : ovrlrd
    • Y'all should put that guy in charge! : drazz
  • You might be eligible for a free upgrade from Apple! They've always done that with their macs. : spazzium
  • A P P L E ' D : grendel
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    So far nothing they've announced is making the previous iteration look a lot worse : sonicdeathwalrus
    • Excuse me 2 times faster and voice control : OverloadUT
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    You fool! You knew what you were getting yourself into! : BlackCat9
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      I didn't follow apple crap that much I didn't know a new one was coming so soon :( : OverloadUT
      • How could you not know? For like the past 3-4 month every "I'm buying an iphone" thread has had at least ... : Prozium
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  ha "The S stands for SPEED. Because “this is the most powerful, fastest iPhone ever made.” this i... : AllYourBase
  • EVER! : rosewood
  • according the all mighty Strong Bad, the S is for SUCKS TROOOOOOOOOGDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR : ErneX
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    That's right! They didn't make a slower iPhone! : crummynz
    • The S stands for Slow, because this is the slowest iphone made yet : gmd
  • iPhone TYPE R! VVRRRROOOMM : halophoenix
• http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/1/13/ : geedeck
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  ooh video recording : Mmmmmoo
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    I wonder if the 3G will get video but at a lower quality? : skilesare
    • yeah. i was wondering if this would be exclusive to the new phone only. and the voice control, etc. : Mmmmmoo
  • Surprised they're tying video to the hardware and not the software - jailbreak stuff has had video captur... : genom
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  question is, when will the 3G S come out in Canada? : Sgt_Boomstick
  • no, the question is when will teathering come out in America : Cheeziologist
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  video capture: 30FPS VGA with auto focus, auto white balance and auto exposure. : g0nk
  • yes - about damned time. : halophoenix
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  So is it twice as fast as the old Apple ][ GS? : Fyunch Click
  • I see what you did there :D : halophoenix
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  I may actually play SimCity more often on the faster phone. I don't however need Flight Control to be any... : Jonathan
  • it says something that SimCity is the benchmark for load times. I'd play the game a hell of a lot more of... : Schnapple
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  Editing video in the iPhone and then posting it on the web from there, that's kind of awesome : Serpico74
  • that's the only thing selling me right now man : mr.sleepy
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  VOICE CONTROL! : g0nk
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    lol finally something my shitty old cheapass phone I had before had : mikecyb
    • The music voice control is pretty sweet though. : Barnahog
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    Why the fuck wouldnt that work on the current iphones? : EricZBA
    • to force you to buy a new one. : steelsamurai
    • They could have a separate chip doing the voice recognition, like a crap ton of other handsets. I dunno. : spazzium
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      Because then they couldn't use it as a selling point for this version. Honestly, that's the only reason ... : genom
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        The compass is not viable on the old hardware. This new hardware has a magnetometer, which the old phones... : zuga
        • You could infer direction with the GPS though. That's how TomTom does it : Schnapple
  • Play more songs like this could be cool if it worked with the button/microphone on the apple earphones, o... : Arsenal
• I am so surprised Rogers isn't forcing an additional fee for tethering. Was preparing myself to lose the... : Barnahog
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  FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. THEY'VE DONE IT. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I'm upgrading. : spazzium
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    Hah what pushed you over the edge? : d3tached
    • Obviously the auto white balance. : hirosushima
    • he loves video : mikecyb
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      voice control I bet : OverloadUT
      • Yep. : spazzium
    • the presenter's nips are showing a bit : mrvandelay
    • THE S FOR SPEED hahahahaha : ErneX
  • ahaha mega cums all over your screen? : davidc02
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    they've done what : mr.sleepy
    • Get out of this thread with your anti consumerist attitudes! : spazzium
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  There’s also a built-in digital compass. One guy goes crazy. “A cool compass fan out there,” says P... : g0nk
  • lol i can just picture one dude flipping his shit in the audience on hearing this. "I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR... : halophoenix
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    I can't believe the compass is real, that's hilarious. : hawkeye
    • Compass will be fucking awesome for things like geocaching. : OverloadUT
• blah, no mega (5"x7") ipod touch? : edgewise
• they could really make this an awesome upgrade by saying, '.....and the 3GS is available unlocked/multisp... : smacknca
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  FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. I really wanted a Pre and now I am undecided again : Cheeziologist
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    one of us one of us : Yanks
    • ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : askedrelic
  • The Pre is kind of effed. :/ If I wasn't getting an iPhone I'd be getting a Bold at this point. Both ... : Serpico74
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    is there no room for the blackberry bold or the G1? : RikiTiki2
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      I wasn't impressed with the G1, and I didn't like the click screen on the BB : Cheeziologist
      • oh, you said Bold, not Storm. Haven't played with the Bold at all : Cheeziologist
  • hardware encryption is really appreciated by my inner paranoid self : Cheeziologist
  • lol : whistletits
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    If you do the pre I would wait a month or so for them to get the kinks worked out. : sKetchflow
    • I at the very least would wait till you could get it through the sprint website (so I could use my corpor... : Cheeziologist
  • You fool, the shiny bauble has fooled y-oh shit $199 : Deathlove
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    It confuses me how many people went out and bought a pre without at least knowing what apple had to offer... : d3tached
    • I'm a Palm fanboy and Sprint hustla. :( : Deathlove
    • the people I was in line with about 9 people in line for the pre 3 of them had 3G iphones and wanted the ... : whistletits
  • Pre looks pretty good, but the apps aren't there yet... I hope it gets up to speed and gives Apple som... : ErneX
  • WebOS looks great, but I didn't like the hardware. : K1Bond007
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  Voice Control. Hold down Home button and interface pops up. Some voice commands: Call *persons nam... : re4ctor
  • the new hardware encryption sounds interesting : hamachi
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    This gives me such a bonner with all the damned driving I do. I wonder how well it will work with my blue... : Greymatter42
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      bonner? : mrvandelay
      • two n's for twice the excitement : Greymatter42
• uggh I still want to be able to organize apps through iTunes : two50six
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  Based on the announcement of the 3.0 OS release date. I can almost 100% bet you that the 3GS will come ou... : ovrlrd
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    how does ATT handle upgrades for this stuff? I forget : hamachi
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      Nope, iTunes. : hawkeye
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        I meant hardware wise. get a new phone for the cheap price if your contract isn't up yet : hamachi
        • Get a new phone, and it renews your contract. You're back to 2 years. : spazzium
        • There's some formula by which you can "qualify" for an upgrade. Not sure exactly how it works. Wasn't a... : genom
  • Okay so I was two days off. : ovrlrd
• Price: FREE oh, not quite : rosewood
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  $199! holy shit : g0nk
  • haha i said holy shit out loud. : hirosushima
  • $99 for 8GB! : Serpico74
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  Price is still $199, but for 16gb, $299 for 32gb : re4ctor
  • 32gb. you are mine. : Birchman
  • iPhone 3G is now $99 for the 8gb : re4ctor
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  Most eco-friendly iPhone yet -- arsenic-free glass, BRF-free, mercury-free LCD, etc. There's arsenic i... : Arsenal
  • dont eat it! : kikilupo
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  3G stays on market for $99 : g0nk
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    BWAHAHA, how many of you bought phones yesterday? FOOLS! : LoioshDwaggie
    • Its an easy return for anyone that bought one in the last few weeks. : Serpico74
    • Most credit/debit cards offer 30 day price protection, and so do many retailers. : adpalumbo
• Will these changes make their way to the Touch? : Patch-e
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  $99 for the 3G 8GB. Decisions decisions : maulla
  • If you already have an ipod, this is a no brainer. : jasonepowell
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    What does this mean? Does it require a service plan? Could I get a $99 iphone and leave it in 'Airpl... : hawke
    • not for $99; that price is only for iPhones with a 2-year contract / service agreement. I think it's $299... : zerog83
  • that 99$ is with a 3 years plan, right ? : barichnikov
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  Whoa they're leaving 3G on the market for $99. Holy shit. : OverloadUT
  • hahaha so long palm. : not work safe
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  That loud sputtering you hear is the air being let out of the Sprint balloon. :( : Deathlove
  • HAH, I love this shit. This right here is why Apple is so secretive. They love to piss on other's parades... : ovrlrd
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  June 19th!!!! : g0nk
  • Sweet 3 days after my sprint contract is over. : d3tached
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  Leo LaPorte: "Well, that's it. I guess I won't be buying the Pre." : BlackCat9
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    The Pre is fucked. Less memory, fewer apps, fewer functions, higher price. Dang. : Serpico74
    • Palm had to know they were fucked at $299 with a $100 mail in rebate. : hawkeye
  • Clearly he is bought by apple. : d3tached
• JUNE 19th BITCHES : halophoenix
• I hope they bring it fast to Venezuela... : davidc02
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  Not bad, but I can't see myself rushing out to upgrade from a 3G. The camera is nice, but video stuff is ... : TastyWheat
  • Not having Voice Control is going to piss me off for 2 years :(( : OverloadUT
  • I bet they're just aiming for saturation right now, especially with the price drop and continuation of th... : adpalumbo
  • Yeah this is aimed at the people just getting out of their two year contracts with iPhone 1.0 : Schnapple
  • I'm with you, aside from the fact i'm only halfway through my 3G Optus contract, it's not that compelling... : Arsenal
  • VGA ON A PHONE : RikiTiki2
• Lame... : kramweil
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  So I think most of the stuff they showed was OS 3.0 stuff, but 3Gs is a bit faster, bit better battery li... : re4ctor
  • Hopefully it's all tied to the OS. : kramweil
  • If I can get the Voice control on my current phone it would be enough for me to wait. : spazzium
  • Its not enough to push me over. The only thing remotely interesting to me is the voice control, but not e... : theangrywaffles
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  i feel like i want to throw a 5 year old's temper tantrum but seriously, getoffatt getoffatt GET OFF ATT : smacknca
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    Because of the tethering? No American carrier would do that either. : byorn
    • no, because i dont have att and i dont want them. the iphone would be so much more interesting if it wa... : smacknca
• Nothing too major hardware wise. I'll wait until next year to buy a new phone. : WhatIsThisFor
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  No flash light for the camera right? : davidc02
  • not that I can see, which is pretty lame :( : kikilupo
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  I'm still using a first-generation EDGE iPhone. However, $99 to upgrade to 3G is pretty tempting. : slax0r
  • I think the camera is worth paying extra for the 3GS honestly. : ovrlrd
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  no "one more thing" :( : ErneX
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    Has anyone but Steve done this? : Greymatter42
    • Yes, I believe Phil has as well. : ovrlrd
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  Fuckk yes. June 19th for Canada. omg : Sgt_Boomstick
  • No vitality sensor? NO DEAL!!! : Dave-A
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  I wonder if ATT will cut a deal for current iPhone 3g users. : Matto357
  • If not, I'm sticking with my 3G, no reason for me to pay way more than it's worth to me. : vov1n
  • I wanna upgrade :/ : askedrelic
  • i feel really silly, i got my 3G like 35 days ago : opengl128
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    answered my own question. $399 for 8gig, $599 for 16 gig and $699 for 32 gig. Fuck you ATT. : Matto357
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      that's outright device only pricing. if you can do an upgrade on your contract, should be $199/$299. : g0nk
      • Right, they did the same thing when the 3G came out. Obviously they offered an early upgrade path for 2G ... : ovrlrd
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        Nope, I got a 3g on launch day, so I'm still only a year into this contract. : Matto357
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          Yeah - I'm guessing launch day was the 12? So you're just under a year. : Jonathan
          • Yeah Launch day was the 11th. : Jonathan
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        AT&T.com says I should wait until the 12th and get better pricing then. : Jonathan
        • I think this is a good idea. They probably have only put in the early data at the moment and have not pro... : ovrlrd
      • existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a : arhughes
    • Haha. Fuck AT&T indeed. : theangrywaffles
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      That must be full retail for the phones. It would be cheaper for you to just pay the early termination fe... : Prozium
      • Well, $400 total ($200 for the ETF and $200 for the phone). : Prozium
• I think I will keep my original iPhone with it's cheaper plan for now. Would rather not pay the extra per... : byorn
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  Store back up, features and comparisons of iPhones.. http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone... : g0nk
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    I can't believe they are pimping a freaken compass so hard. : d3tached
    • gotta help people who can't use the stars to find north anymore : RikiTiki2
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  Well, I can honestly say that I have very little interest in upgrading from a 3g Faster might be nice as... : boarder2
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    I think most people will be surprised at the amount of extra they are getting from the 3.0 firmware anywa... : ovrlrd
    • Yeah, I've been using the developer seed of 3.0 for a while and adding copy/paste really took care of the... : boarder2
• PALM, high of $14 on Friday, currently $12. Goddammit, that would have been an awesome short. >:( : Serpico74
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  Still think i'm getting a Pre : maulla
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    Yeah, I just priced out what I'd need on AT&T to equal my Sprint plan and it's like $30/mo. more. Noooooo... : Deathlove
    • yea, data is more expensive and the stuff for the 3GS really isnt that intriguing to me. I have an ipod t... : maulla
    • honestly, the price was a big turn off for me too. I mean thats almost a video game a month. The Pre is a... : whistletits
    • This is my same reasoning, I've got an old HTC Mogul that is falling apart and I need a new phone. iPhon... : loboVT
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  and palm stock goes into a free fall. : baron calamity
  • Hardly : WhatIsThisFor
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  Still pumped for 3.0 with TETHERING (suck it) and Stereo Bluetooth support (Logitech headphones!) : TastyWheat
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    oh! I missed that. Is that limited to just the new iPhone? : byorn
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      yes, as long as you're not on AT&T. If you're on AT&T you'll still have to jailbreak it to get tethering... : Omning
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        I thought they just didn't mention tethering directly linked with AT&T? It'd be really annoying if AT&T ... : sKetchflow
        • AT&T won't offer it without charging you extra for it. : Omning
    • Nope : TastyWheat
  • Whatever. I've been able to tether for a year on my 3G you dingo. : spazzium
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  So is video recording available to the 3G? Also, does data tethering cost extra? I don't see why it shoul... : Mmmmmoo
  • I believe that feature is for 3GS only :( : ErneX
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    I hope so... Jailbreakers can do it without issue on the 3g right now :( : CRaY SV1
    • 15 FPS fixed focus :( : spazzium
    • I wouldn't say without issue. From what I've heard, it's pretty crummy. : BlackCat9
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  Really wanted to see a memory upgrade for the new iPhone too. Faster with a useful camera gets me on b... : hawkeye
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    it went up to 32GB now.. : g0nk
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      I think he meant system ram, did they not upgrade that? : vynn
      • i believe it doubled, not sure though. : g0nk
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        processor speed/ram wasn't mentioned directly. Said it's faster overall which would suggest upgraded int... : sKetchflow
        • Or they uncrippled the cpu. : TreMetal
      • yeah, memory, not storage. : hawkeye
      • Yeah, doubled to 256 MB. : spazzium
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  does itunes have streaming radio support on the iPhone like it does in the desktop app? I know there's no... : Cheeziologist
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    iTunes can stream Podcasts but doesn't have streaming radio built in : hawkeye
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      There are plenty of streaming radio apps though. : spazzium
      • They're kinda irritating, because you can't background them. : Arcanum
      • that can't background without jailbreaking :( : hawkeye
• so many people that won't buy games but they are going to buy everything that was just mentioned, lol : Downforce
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  While we're on the subject, can anyone recommend a good RSS reader for the iphone? : slax0r
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    I just use Google Reader in Safari. Works great. : BlackCat9
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      This, works awesome : boarder2
      • Yep, fastest reader by far. Also use gmail instead of the Mail app. A bit slower but the UI is much mor... : Barnahog
      • And if that's not your style, Bloglines has an excellent iPhone version of their site. : electroly
  • You mean offline capable RSS reader? NetNewsWire and Pro RSS are the least sucky I've found, and I've tri... : stuka
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  How much is a basic unlimited plan? I really want to get one.... : Birchman
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    $35 on top of your voice plan. That includes 500 texts and unlimited data. : c_man_tmt
    • i thought the minimum plan was $60 : Birchman
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      Wut? iPhone 3G data plan includes no text messages, you have to purchase a separate package. : icking fudiot
      • right, $30 plus $5 if you want text messaging. : c_man_tmt
  • $60 I think. I'm still not interested : snuff
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  So now Apple doesn't make laptops that have removable batteries. This makes me sad. What happens wh... : virus
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    you can afford 4-5 apple batteries at 130 bucks a pop? you also haul around 4-5 of them? road warrior. : xxiv
    • Yes, and yes. : virus
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    Wouldn't it make more sense, in that case, to buy a portable DVD player (one of the ones that has 9 hours... : electroly
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      Then he also has to carry DVDs (as opposed to just ripping them to his hard drive), and the player, and t : Arcanum
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        True, except for the power supply part -- I'm not sure what you're referring to there? We're talking abo... : electroly
        • I was assuming an internal rechargable battery. He'd get 9 hours of playback, but then have to recharge. : Arcanum
      • Well most of the portable dvd players support divx now and I'd bet that the portable player and its power... : Prozium
      • Exactly - I play video games on the machine too. Dual boot to windows, bring a mouse with me, etc. : virus
  • "You Do Not Need Removable Batteries." - Apple : Arcanum
  • True, but then it wouldn't be "cool". : menar003
  • What if I was attacked by a unicorn, and the only thing that could hurt it was laptop batteries? : adpalumbo
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    buy one of those chargers that fit airplane sockets : halophoenix
    • That's what I use. Apple's is just a thin cord, doesn't even have a brick at the end. : Serpico74
    • Yeah, you save tons of money no matter what way you look at it. Yes booking a airplane seat that has the ... : ovrlrd
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    The unibody 15" models give about as much power as two batteries. You really going to use that much? : Serpico74
    • That's what I'm thinking. I would gladly trade a user removable battery for an internal one with more pow... : Prozium
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      Yep - I sure am. And I'll probably blow through 2-3 of them. : virus
      • Buy a book instead. : BlackCat9
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        Huh. I've never even picked up additional batteries for any of my prior notebooks, I hate the bulk of wha... : Serpico74
        • Generally, my carry on for an airplane consists of: laptop 2 extra batteries psp ipod and thats ... : virus
  • But all you need is a screwdriver and 15 minutes, just like the DS3 battery! : Fred Garvin
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    some company should put out a battery brick that has a magsafe connector to it. external power, baby. : epit
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      It's been done. http://www.tuaw.com/tag/battery+pack/ : electroly
      • Just ordered 2 of the 222Wh models - thanks for the link. :) : virus
  • Do planes even let you take 4+ laptop batteries on them now? : Fayk
  • International Flights almost ALL have a power adaptor for your computer. I know mine did when I went to G... : Shivawn
• I am trying to buy this fucker and it's pretty much impossible, I am stuck in a spinning cart : Yanks
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  So these prices are with contracts with at&t, right? If I wanted to buy one and jail break it for tmobile... : Visceral Monkey
  • Yup. Tack on 300-400 dollars. : spazzium
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    You can't just jail break it to use it on another network. That's unlocking which is harder to do. : freshyk
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      Nope. Jailbreaking / unlocking is as simple as clicking a button. Now. you can't unlock 3g on other netwo... : loboca
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        Oh how times have changed. : freshyk
        • Indeed. 3G is totally slightly unlockable right now, provided you never dropped on an updated baseband. ... : spazzium
  • Although if you wait long enough I'd sell you my 3g for the subsidized rate already jail broken for you. : spazzium
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  If you buy a secondhand iPhone do you have to get the unlimited data plan? : OverloadUT
  • Yes. : BlackCat9
• the best thing about 30fps video on the phone is all the NWS that will be filmed and eventually leaked. : Fyunch Click
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  Upgrade pricing sucks balls! As a valued AT&T customer, AT&T can offer you an early iPhone upgrade wit... : radicus
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    What you do is call them and tell them that there's been this big huge mistake and that some dickhead at ... : Schnapple
    • Yeah, I tried that because this actually happened. They didn't budge. : BlackCat9
  • That's early upgrade pricing. : mancide
  • When did you buy yours? : skilesare
  • Luckily I qualify for a standard upgrade price on 7/12. Still, that really sucks for a lot of people. : Serpico74
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    where did you find out that you qualified/unqualified? : FrayLo
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      store.apple.com and tried to buy the new one. I bought mine in August of last year. : radicus
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        I'm sure that happened to me when I tried to upgrade from the 1st gen to the 3G, but when I went into the... : CuntRocket
        • The first iphone wasn't subsidized which is why people were able to upgrade. If you signed a contract fo... : Horn
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  UK Folk: keep reading this page - http://twitter.com/o2 : losimagic
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    MMS is basically free then, since I never get anywhere near my SMS limit. I doubt I'll bother with tether... : rock elf
    • I just really want to know how I can get one - ie) will it be 1st come, 1st served (I assume it will be) : losimagic
• The new iPhone 3GS hardware looks nice, but it's not something I'm planning on buying soon. Even so, here... : BlackCat9
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  Snow Leopard upgrade at $29 is the best news to come out of this show. I was seriously expecting to pay M... : Ellissd
  • Agreed - Australians only pay $15! SO HOT. : TastyWheat
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    I'm still stunned by this. Snow Leopard is a huge under-the-hood upgrade for power users and developers. : ]pm[chem
    • Totally. I can't wait to see what speed improvements Grand Central and OpenCL bring. : Serpico74
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    Or you know previous apple prices? : rosewood
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      I'm not familiar with previous apple prices, sorry. : Ellissd
      • $130 : Serpico74
  • I didn't expect them to do this, either, even though I've been saying it would be the smart thing for the... : BlackCat9
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    Snow Leopard is... a service release for OSX? Microsoft has you pay >$100 to upgrade to a new operat... : walker270
    • Snow Leopard is a pretty damn significant service pack. : Yanks
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      Snow Leopard is a new set of architecture APIs. Even Apple realizes that it's tough to sell that at full ... : BlackCat9
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        No, Service Pack 1 and 2 were service packs for Vista users. Both improved performance and reliability, ... : walker270
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          So did 10.5.1-7, also free. But in both cases, this is going to be the overhaul that makes the OS worth a... : BlackCat9
          • Snow Leopard or Windows 7? Vista -> 7 isn't a huge upgrade, especially if what the various blogs have ... : walker270
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  Safari 4 refreshes this thread in less than a second. Firefox 3.5 is taking 4-5 seconds :( : hawkeye
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    I'm so glad they changed the tab position back to the bottom since the last beta, man I didn't like the t... : Barnahog
    • Agreed. Love where they put the tabs, and it's FAST. : TastyWheat
    • Bah, fuck that. Wastes another 20 more pixels on my netbook, I liked the "old" way >:( : boarder2
  • I noticed a big gain in speed with this new Safari : ErneX
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    Wow, this is fast... I'm going to have to check out Firefox 3.5 to compare, since I'm used to FF3.1, but ... : BlackCat9
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      Is there anything for Safari that works like the Shack greasemonkey plugins for [lol], Shacktags or showi... : BlackCat9
      • Ha. It just crashed when I made my last post. Just disappeared from the screen with no error message or o... : BlackCat9
  • A pity clicking on subthreads expands the thread but doesn't move your focus with it. : Bamtan
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  I'm reading on the Engaget boards that alot of people are Meh about the new phone and 3.0 and still cryin... : whistletits
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    Does the Pre do flash? : WhatIsThisFor
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      3.0 mp and flash, yes : whistletits
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        I think he meant Adobe Flash. Does it do that? : Schnapple
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          Yea, I meant Adobe not camera : WhatIsThisFor
          • no, but it's on the way. : whistletits
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    they will never do Flash because it compromises their iron-fist control over application content on the p... : steelsamurai
    • Haha. What a gross misunderstanding of what they're doing what they care about. They just don't want Ad... : adpalumbo
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  * BOUGHT ' D * Thank you for your order. We’re processing it now. You will receive an email confirm... : Yanks
  • Just remember the little people when you're coding your SUPERFAST applications ;) : hawkeye
  • Yea, i think i'm going to finally take the plunge. I was pretty content with my candy bar Nokia thanks in... : Ellissd
  • I'm going to upgrade from my craptastic Sprint phone next month. : CrustaR
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    I think I'm gonna stop in tomorrow in-store and pre-order. I gotta switch carriers and all that so.. yeah... : K1Bond007
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      Curious if you'll be able to pre-order in store this time. Beats waiting. : hawkeye
      • ATT PR says yes. You can do it today, I just don't have time to go. : K1Bond007
  • just bought it. : kaddar0
• Just bought Star Defense, it's awesome! : WhatIsThisFor
• I really don't like not making software available that will run just fine on the 3g. Voice Control is al... : kek
• Canadians: is it possible to get an Iphone on anything less than a 3yr contract? : Sgt_Boomstick
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  Seems like Apple kind of blew their load all over iPhone OS 3.0; the new hardware is pretty underwhelming... : retarded talking dinosaur
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    Hardware + 3.0 is enough to sway me from getting a Pre instead. : d3tached
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      I have to say that I still like the webOS interface better, I like the pricing on Sprint's plans better, ... : Cheeziologist
      • I like the Pre's push gmail and seamless chat program. I still can't believe apple doesn't support that y... : d3tached
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      Oh I'm not defending the Pre by any means. Fuck Sprint and all CDMA phones : retarded talking dinosaur
      • CDMA might be ghey, but you can't tell me that HSDPA is better than EVDO : Cheeziologist
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  Even Madagascar gets the new iPhone Mozambique doesnt :( : doomed
  • Will you be able to transmit disease via Bluetooth in the 3.0 firmware? Imagine the possibilities... : BlackCat9
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    It's the only way to get Madagascar to open it's borders. : loboca
    • Only because there's an app to close the ports with one touch. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Dammit this might finally push me into giving up my unlocked 2G. Some cool shit. I don't like that the... : peanut-
  • So if your already on a contract right now, mine ends in 2 or so months with a 1st gen iphone, can i just... : hirosushima
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  I hope Steve Jobs will rot in HELL !!!! Still no iPhone in Iceland. They got fucking Nigeria, Mali, Se... : gummijoh
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    can you import one? if someone were to purchase one for you could it be shipped there? and if so would... : kbnerd
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      sure, that would work. There are 4000+ imported iPhones in use in Iceland right now. : gummijoh
      • wow. why don't you have one then? i think you should get one. i hear that iphones are shiny. : kbnerd
  • But don't you need.. I dunno.. an actual economy that's above water? (Not that the other countries you me : laidback
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  So - can I buy an iPhone 3Gs without a contract? : virus
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    Yeah, but you've gotta pay full price!! : CrustaR
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      Ok - what is full price and where is it listed? : virus
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        Somewhere in this huge thread. :[ You're looking at $400 minimum, I think. : CrustaR
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          Pretty sure it's $500 / $600 for 16 / 32 GB. : Goncyn
          • So he's looking at $rape minimum? : CrustaR
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          in the UK it was 650 usd for a 16gb 3G, then 30 usd / month for unlimited data + some voice and smsmsmsms... : jcupitt
          • oh, they've updated: $864 for the 32gb 3G S, then $32/month for unlimited data + 500 minutes of voice ... : jcupitt
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  Looks like I will be buying one soon. : razlebol
  • Or maybe not, I just checked the plans and wow, they fucking rip you off right there. 80$ minimum for a d... : razlebol
• Announcing the new Iphone Vitality Sensor! : LemonJoose
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  btw, the thing that they are doing with zipcar has been done before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq... : maulla
  • so? : Korban
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  iPhones on Verizon plz : tomservo
  • stop smokin' da crack! : hirez
  • As long as Verizon is using CDMA I'd have a hard time seeing this happen. : electroly
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    wait till LTE...and then that'll require a new iPhone....so what, 2015? : halophoenix
    • 2011 I'd wager, 2012 at the latest. : Lone Swordsman
• whoa spotlight in os 3.0 is good, no more searching for songs : Chandler55
• All the pricing options explained: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/06/att-on-tethering-iphone-3... : opengl128
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  Can the $99 3G be hacked to work on TMobile?}g : slickdoody
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    Its $99 with a contract with ATT. : not work safe
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      bah, there's no way to buy it without activating like in the "old" days? : slickdoody
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        Sure there is, from flocks of people selling their 3G to buy a 3GS : TheNiXXeD
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          Yeah, it'll be really easy to find a 16GB 3G model in a few weeks. : Serpico74
          • Not all of them will be unlockable though, mine is! : spazzium
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  We experienced an error in processing your request. Please try again later. fffffffffuuuuuuuuuu 3rd : johngloid
  • It took a decent amount of work for me to get in. Probably a half hour, and that was right after the keyn... : Yanks
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  so is the 3.0 GM released to devs? can a non-dev phone use that rom? : festivalman
  • Maybe, but I seem to remember that it "phones home" after activation. : Yanks
• I've got a 1st-gen iPhone and it's really tempting to look into what my upgrade options may be... :X : DOOManiac
• people what's this hype over iphone os 3.0 or iphone 3 gs !!! i cant believe that iphone has all this hyp... : hanged_man