Left 4 Dead 2 Screenshots Bridge the Undead Gap

For me this is bullshit.

I got ALL Valve games since HL1.
And for 100% I'm not buying L4D2? Why? This is the same game with some tweaks DLC should cover that with no problem. The gameplay will stay the same oh yeah "melee".. Comon! And characters so far are non sens ! L4D was dark and badass now its game for 16 years old to kill some zombies.

I really want to know why Valve is doing this. Seems really unlike them, considering how many updates TF2 has gotten.
Was L4D Classic just not expandable enough that they had to create an entirely new game to feature all these features? Seems like they could have just released most of this stuff as an update, unless there's something I don't see.

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"So we'll do the same thing with Left 4 Dead where we'll have the initial release and then we'll release more movies, more characters, more weapons, unlockables, achievements, because that's the way you continue to grow a community over time."

http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/left_4_dead/news/valve_details_post_left_4_dead_launch_plans.html

Not sure how I feel about paying for what basically amount to a DLC-pack, especially from Valve... :/

Why the hell are they talking about L4D2 when they should be talking about Half Life 3, or HL3 Ep3, or whatever!!! Who gives a shit about L4D2.... L4D1 seems like it just came out.

Am I weird for wanting a single player campaign?

Sometimes, I just feel a little anti-social.

these screens don't look as good as the first one. or am i crazy?

Xbox.com puts it at a $60 price point, so following that reasoning it's $50 on PC. Which is completely unlike Valve. TF2, CS:S, HL2 all got free content updates. TF2 was part of the Orange Box and has loads more content than L4D at $50. L4D gets survival mode and a single new last stand map, the versus conversions don't count because they should have been in it to start with.

No wonder we had to wait so long for the 2 versus campaigns, they moved the entire team over to L4D2 without a care. Now we will have a split community, a split modding community, many annoyed users, some happy users. It's not about value for me it's about being consistent across your company and upholding promises (they said weapons / characters / maps were coming to L4D before release).

To me this now puts Valve on a fairly even standing with many other developers now, instead of the once mighty, the once infallible Valve. I'm probably going to send a e-mail off to Gabe to let him know how disappointed I am after being a Valve fan for a very long time.

ill just say it: this looks bad.

why is it sunny too?

Valve just added an official HD trailer to Steam.

Gameplay trailer - http://au.pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14352245/left-4-dead-2/videos/l4d2_gmp_dockstart_052809.html

I feel that it's too soon though, but going by this preview (http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/988/988416p1.html) it sounds great and seems they've added alot. Some nice ideas.

Looks like a mod....

that brightly colored t-shirt really puts you at a disadvantage if you get that character

I stole this info from somewhere. I have no idea if this info has ANY truth to it.


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Someone on the Steam forums was saying in the podcast they said that content made by the SDK will be playable in L4D and L4D2, and that SDK and Matchmaking would be out the week after E3.

Notes, stole from the Steam forums:

* Left 4 Dead 2 development started shortly after the release of the original game.
* More Special Infected to come, the next one they're working on is a "he".
* Zombies with limbs blown off will die eventually, but are capable of surviving longer. (Seen in trailer.)
* Melee weapons have a couple different classes - "blunt" and "chopping", for example. More weapons will be released in those types of classes.
* Common infected have better sight at night time.
* Witches can be crowned with the axe.
* Wandering Witches' movements are erratic.
* L4D will continue to be updated. Community maps for L4D1 will be "instantly" compatible with L4D2.
* Story to be a bigger element, without cutscenes.
* Matchmaking and SDK out week after E3.
* The development team wanted to do something bigger than just a "few maps", or a "half-assed tacked on story that just didn't make any sense".
* In regards to storyline, "it's about the world, it's not about the character". Didn't want to be constrained to the same 4 characters.
* Characters will "progress and change" throughout the campaign.
* Rochelle works for a cable news network, (Not CNN) that covers a story in Savannah. It "doesn't work out well for them".
* L4D1 campaigns were "re-ordered" to come up with a sensible storyline. There is mention of "people on the forums" figuring it out. ("Mapping the whole journey", etc.)
* No "evil scientist" type backstory to the infected.
* Weather effects will occur - mentioned to be similar to the cornfield of Blood Harvest.
* "Biggest thing" they're working on in L4D2 - Corner camping / "Shiva stacking".
* Going to see conflict between humans and... humans. Mention is made of the military "testing" people for infection, and eventually shooting them.
* No social commentary, such as comparing FEMA to CEDA, for example.

This is really great news. Though i haven't even played the first one apart from the demo, maybe ill wait and pick up both :D