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  They carried over the leveling world and the stupid fucking 'run backwards and shoot' game mechanics from... : AhmNee
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    Weapons have range modifiers and there's no level scaling. I stopped reading closely after that. : derelict515
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      Range modifiers? You mean that there's a modifier based on the distance you shoot? No shit. The weapons u... : AhmNee
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        Don't worry your right there is scaling, its just much less obtrusive from what I have heard. Meaning you... : Toth21
        • The other thing that annoyed the shit out of me was when I ran into the Supermutant/Centaur early on, the... : AhmNee
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    the leveling system is the same as the one in oblivion? Ugh :( I thought it was different or something. : burning eye
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      It might be slightly modified but the creatures and vendors magically get better gear as the game goes on... : AhmNee
      • I don't think magic has much to do with it, maybe they rob UPS trucks. : skitzo
      • you barely played it : Mondo
    • No read my post above its not the same. It still exists though. : Toth21
    • It's not the same as used in Oblivion. There are some things that auto-level with you, but some things d... : sevogajre
    • it's nothing like it. : lakren
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    The Combat in Fallout 1 and 2 FUCKING SUCKED A GODAMN COCK. GET THE FUCK OVER IT. : Jackass1233
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      Well, good. Glad you think so. Combat still sucks. The status quo is intact. Move along, Jackass. : AhmNee
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        Hi, you must not know me. Welcome to the shack. Where other people don't share your shit ass opinion, th... : Jackass1233
        • LOL'D : wanker67
        • haha : pigvomit
        • Mr Cool Ice Burn. : bombay
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          Ah, hello. I'm certain if you'll excuse me for having a dim view of your post and thereby your opinion. I... : AhmNee
          • you're trying too hard, and even mr. jackass is coming off good compared to you : moshman
        • You swear so often because you're insecure. It's cute. Post more! : eonix
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      Why do people say this? Combat was one of the things I loved about the fallout games, and I rarely like c... : datoo
      • See how it phases into all caps ... that's the troll DNA taking over. : AhmNee
      • I had fun with it, too. : action wombmate
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      What? Combat in Fallout 1 and 2 was fucking awesome. What the fuck are you talking about? : razlebol
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        it was pretty slow until you got badass weapons. A fight scene with more than 5 enemies and a couple of b... : filthysock
        • I loved it that way. Tactcal combat was a lot of fun. : razlebol
        • Ever played a little game called XCOM? It was exactly like that which means it was awesome. WTF is wrong ... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      I loved Fallout 1+2 combat. : Trips
      • yeah IA. critting someone in the eyes was very very satisfiying : oHnOES
    • I hated the combat in Fallout 1 and 2 as well. i'm not sure that fallout 3 is the right answer but it is ... : baron calamity
    • The combat didn't suck, but it was EXTREMELY simplistic and limited. The only thing really cool about ... : Rice-Rocketeer
    • Minesweeper has better combat than Fallout 1 and 2. : ArB
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    None of this matches my experience. This isn't Bethesda love, either; I didn't care for Oblivion. : Conan
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      I'd be interested in how you got around running backward and shooting, hitting the walls/rocks you were t... : AhmNee
      • It just hasn't been a problem. I don't doubt you've had a problem, but I can't say it's every happened to... : Conan
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        It's pretty easy to avoid hitting walls and rocks once you realize you have to leave yourself some space. : nurglich
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          A whole lot of space. I you can see it in your reticle clearly you aught to be able to shoot it. I've alw... : AhmNee
          • I think you are approaching the game from the opinion that it's a FPS first, RPG second.. which it isn't.... : SigENeaT
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        this shit show needs to end : oHnOES
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          By all means, King Nothing. : AhmNee
          • oh snap, burn : oHnOES
      • Just make sure your gun actually has LOS to your target, and not just your crosshair. I've only had o... : Noobler
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    I would have prefered if the combat was VATS only. It's still a very awesome game imo. I'm sure someone w... : razlebol
    • Maybe I'll give it another shot. The world feels very much like the world of Fallout. And I love the feel... : AhmNee
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      I'm glad it's not. Sometimes when a dude is almost dead I just want to put a few rounds in him quickly. : Chris Remo
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        Yeah, this. Why waste AP when a guy's got one point left? : Conan
        • That's the point, though. What are the APs? In FO everything used AP. Now only you use AP. So it's like t... : AhmNee
      • Oh, I agree with that. I even play it more like a shooter than using the VATS. I just think it could be b... : razlebol
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    ATTN: Bringing a 2D isometric game to next-gen 3D involves some changes and compromises :) : GeorgeB3DR
    • tell that to Mario 64! : mista mista
    • what the hell do you know? : cltcprd
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      Granted. And I think one of the things that made FO1/2 great got lost on the way. A great tactical combat... : AhmNee
      • still pretty tactical to me. make sure you know what you're getting in to. If its too much back off and f... : happynoodle
    • And what kind of a tounge-in-cheek, seemingly cryptic, half-baked bread crumb clue is this? : Xin Jing Client 1a
    • And 10 years. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • I can't see the compromises part, unless we are talking about combat/visual aspect of things. On stotyr/w... : droveri
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    haha what, are you insane? did you even play the game? i couldn't stand oblviion and this game is abso... : lakren
    • I love the game but it's very similar to Oblivion in a lot of aspects. I didn't like oblivion all that mu... : razlebol
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      Really? How does it differ so much? One was in a forest in a medieval timeframe and this is a desert in a... : AhmNee
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        It feels nothing like Oblivion to me. I really couldn't get into that game, but I love Fallout 3 tons. I ... : Chris Remo
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          This is exactly how I feel. Fallout 3 to me feels like it has more in common with, say, the SNES Shadowru... : Conan
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            The feel of the world is definitely different. And I love the feel of the world in this game, but the com... : AhmNee
            • That does sound ridiculous, and something I was afraid of with this game. That the combat would be too Ob... : pyide
            • what weapon are you using and what are your skills? : happynoodle
            • don't run away til your AP regenerates. huff jet. : dirge23
      • That was always my least favorite part of Oblivion... the best way to beat everything (mage/thief/fighter... : Toth21
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        I don't think I've run backwards except when being chased by scary melee-oriented monsters (mirelurks and... : Vincent Grayson
        • When the enemy is too stupid to do anything about it and it causes you to dodge 90% of the attacks it get... : Toth21
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          my first instinct would be to start moving backwards while firing : oHnOES
          • if it was real and all : oHnOES
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          There's a difference between backing away from an enemy and running backward into the next county. : AhmNee
          • Okay, I'll admit killing a super mutant behemoth by running backwards across the countryside, tossing min... : nurglich
          • Exactly, using a cougar in Oblivion as an example (don't have FO3), if I can back peddle faster than a fu... : Toth21
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            There's no need to do that in Fallout, and if there is, you're either in an area you shouldn't be, you ne... : Vincent Grayson
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              Really? How can you tell? There's no range information on the weapons and I seem to get the same percents... : AhmNee
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                FPS mode doesn't have the percent chance to hit as far as I can tell. So, you can "auto-aim" and let the ... : Vincent Grayson
                • Haven't gotten a Sniper Rifle yet, perhaps that will show the differences better. But you'd think there'd... : AhmNee
                • Correct, FPS mode doesn't have a chance to hit. It has bullet deviation, yes, but no chance-to-hit roll.... : Arcanum
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            Maybe you should be picking on somebody your own size then. You complain above about the level scaling y... : DinK
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              Alright, you seem to be missing my point. I don't find the game or the enemys to difficult. But things li... : AhmNee
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                Mirelurks and radscorpions are both pretty damn hard enemies. The combat shotgun will take them down pre... : Arcanum
                • Yeah I'm not sure what the expectation is here. Should the enemies die faster, maybe not charge at you e... : DinK
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                Again, that's something you have to do because of your character. Those are both powerful and armored cr... : DinK
                • I kill radscorpions and mirelurks by dropping frag mines and running away. If their legs get crippled I'... : deject
      • The whole running backwards thing isn't a gameplay flaw, running backwards at the same speed as forwards ... : SigENeaT
    • Yep, I hated Oblivion but I'm really liking Fallout 3 so far. : ColoradoCNC
    • most of what he said is exactly correct, so he does not appear insane : Luminair
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    So, you're a bloatfly. You've been one your entire life, you are stuck in a desolate wasteland were food... : skitzo
    • Lol'd : Toth21
    • Hahahahaha! Awesome. : dpgagnon
    • this was the only response necessary. nuke the rest please lol : jigstah
    • Bravo sir. : acheron
  • Bethesda is horrible for gameplay mechanics, even their most ardent supporters acknowledge that. : locater16
  • Dude if you're talking about Bloatflys still your guy is a noob still with probably 25 skill points in sh... : Mondo
  • My experience has been completely opposite. The only times I have to run backwards and shoot is when I le... : skankcore
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  In before epic shitstorm of a thread. : Drewus
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    this should just be nuked before it gets legs and starts running : oHnOES
    • that would be appropriate for ANY fallout thread : cpt_gloval
• k : hirosushima
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  You finished Brotherhood of Steel? : razlebol
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    If it wasn't on the PC it doesn't count. :p : AhmNee
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      it was! : sammyl
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        It wasn't http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOPOS : razlebol
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          It was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_Tactics:_Brotherhood_of_Steel : neokolonial
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            That's not the game we're talking about. Fallout Tactics is not Brotherhood of Steel. I made that mistake... : AhmNee
            • They both feature that subtitle. The PC game was still called "Brotherhood of Steel," it was just precede... : Chris Remo
          • Meh.. You know what game I was talking about.. :P : razlebol
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  Can I have your disc? : TreMetal
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    Bought it on Steam. Sorry. : AhmNee
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      gift through steam it to me then : boomstickah
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        Can you do that after the fact? I thought you had to do it at the time of purchase. : AhmNee
        • Yeah, you can actually. : boomstickah
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  I made a similar post here: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=18326766#itemanchor_18326766 I thin... : Ocelot
  • And FO Tactics was a truly fantastic game, too. It had some glitches to the hiding/sneaking system bu... : AhmNee
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  I agree that it's a bit underwhelming and that weapons need to list their range modifiers. I find the im... : Foxhawk
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    wheres your thesaurus : oHnOES
    • don't use one : Foxhawk
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    haha I feel like I'm playing a different game. I have never done any kiting and the game feels completely... : lakren
    • its the shackhype imploding : oHnOES
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      So ... do you sit there and let a melee creature beat on you while you shoot it? I've got 10 luck and I c... : AhmNee
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        i can 1 shot things pretty regularly with the scoped .44 magnum and use other guns up close to finish the... : Foxhawk
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          Well this is a pretty common issue with RPG/Action games. Part of the problem lies with making things Mo : brickmatt
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            This is insightful and you know it. : brickmatt
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              to me, the interesting part of this post is where you mention that you never use VATS. I use vats on alm... : Foxhawk
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                Pussy. : brickmatt
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                  you're missing out man, using the shotgun on a rushing ghoul with VATS and blowing that fuckers head clea... : Mondo
                  • hell yea : happynoodle
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            This would be a valid point if it was a well put together FPS. It's not. The controls are sluggish, the t... : AhmNee
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              With a laser pistol? I thought from other post you were trying to use small arms. My character is onl... : DinK
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                I've tried multiple builds. Energy weapons, Small Guns. I haven't tried melee. I haven't seen a large dif... : AhmNee
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                  So how far are you getting into these builds? How long are you giving them before finding the negatives ... : DinK
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                    Yes, that's got to be it. I've been playing the game all wrong. If only I wasn't a complete moron and kn... : AhmNee
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                      Look, this subthread came about because you complained about not being able to kill monsters that would w... : DinK
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                        I think that my meaning has been misconstrued. It's not that I don't expect to have to run away or that I... : AhmNee
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                          You say it's a poor game mechanic as if it's designed in though. I'm saying it's a natural thing that ha... : DinK
                          • DinK, I agree with you. : deject
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        what level are you? 3? : oHnOES
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          At the time I got fed up with it? 8. Using the Chinese Assault Rifle, 10mil SMG, Hunting Rifle and the La... : AhmNee
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            hahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahhahahahhahhah : oHnOES
            • it should be easier at level 8 than 3? : oHnOES
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            Shouldn't the game get harder as you progress? And seriously, if it's that difficult, lower the difficult... : Vincent Grayson
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              maybe, but he said world, implying to me that he is talking about the same problem oblivion has: some cha... : Luminair
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                Tough shit. Yes, the game is going to be very difficult if you choose not to give your character comba... : Vincent Grayson
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                  The areas where you were and were a cakewalk at level 3 or 4 shouldn't suddenly be an exercise in keyboar... : AhmNee
                  • they aren't as far as I can tell. : deject
          • try going to DC when you are level 3 opposed to level 8 : oHnOES
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        You put...10 points into luck? Well, fuck. No wonder you're having a hard time. I mean...there aren... : Rice-Rocketeer
        • I have 10 luck and I'm kicking a lot of ass :( : cygnus
      • I think some terrible accident happened to you when you were running backwards as a child, did you destro... : jigstah
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        Do you honestly think it's a flaw in the game that a melee creature gets an advantage over you once it ru... : DinK
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          I definitely think that if they have bionic supersight and can take many hits from a weapon that not bei... : AhmNee
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            Oh it certainly matters if you're complaining about this but your guy sucks with guns. You didn't includ... : DinK
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              You know what? Screw that. I'm not falling into that bloody trap. "Well, if you'd have built your char... : AhmNee
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                If you consider "having fun" to be quick decisive fights, then yes you need to build your character a cer... : DinK
                • It's not that I'm looking for quick and decisive fights really. I just have disliked the mechanic of barr... : AhmNee
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                It sounds like you're just doing something wrong. Play on a lower difficulty. : Vincent Grayson
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                  No, I've been assured that he knows how to play games and is in fact, not doing it wrong. : DinK
                  • Damnit, I was trying to be subtle. :p : AhmNee
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    I disagree - I feel like FO3 is different than the "completionist" RPGs. You are not forced into the sto... : jigstah
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      if fallout 3 had a % in game i would be fucked : oHnOES
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        haha wetard post : Luminair
        • why? does he like 100%ing stuff also? : oHnOES
      • Yeah I think a % would fuck the game. I almost wish Far Cry 2 didn't have one. : jigstah
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    Do you (or anybody else) have a good solution that would eliminate kiting in a real-time game with ranged... : DinK
    • I dont think there's a problem, but your post just made me think: bayonettes or melee attachments would b... : jigstah
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      well these are world simulations and people are complaining about faults in the simulation. so bringing ... : Luminair
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        what does crippling an enemy head even do? : oHnOES
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          It always made my enemies flinch.. they'd just grab their head and be disoriented for a few seconds. : jingletard
          • if you ever get your head crippled you'll see why. It's like a concussion, your vision goes blurry and th... : derelict515
        • It screws with their perception and accuracy and stuff. : DinK
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        Let's make everything exactly like real life, that'll be maximum fun! : derelict515
        • yeah I'm not saying to do that : Luminair
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        Bringing it closer to reality can often conflict with the need to design a game though. Things like bein... : DinK
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          yeah I'm not saying to do that either. one or two bullet headshots don't have to conflict with the game ... : Luminair
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            For the stuff at the beginning there, my emphasis should have been on game and not on design. I wasn't t... : DinK
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              See this is what I am sick of. The whole point of games is to create a fantasy world and then put you in ... : Toth21
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                It's because one of the primary defining characteristics of the RPG genre is the progress and building of... : DinK
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                  There are other ways to simulate it beyond damage done. If you want "level" to factor in then directly ch... : Toth21
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                    Well yeah of course it won't be the exact same number schemes as old turn based games, but there will alw... : DinK
                    • Why do they have to be vaguely similar? The best way to simulate a gun neophyte's accuracy is view miss/h... : Toth21
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  No, he's partially right. Everyone on here will tell him he's wrong because of their rose colored glasse : jingletard
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    I disagree completely. They've fixed most of my issues with Oblivion, while also fixing most of my issues... : Vincent Grayson
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      I agree with the quests. That also brings up an interesting point - the questing is a refined but still ... : jingletard
      • I didn't have problems with it. : Conan
      • this is one of my complaints. theres no message log : oHnOES
      • I needed to look up where the Family was, but according to the directions I had I had enough to figure it... : Psigun
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    if you're using VATS you're obviously not running backwards : aeg1x
    • he didn't say that, he just said they are both flawed : Luminair
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      I never need to run backward with my minigun. in fact in run upward to be sure i'm close enough : TheFatMom
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        yeah I usually try to close distance before going in to vats : aeg1x
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          I tried to strafe-suicide-run up to melee range and then gunshot people in the head with vats 90% accurac... : Luminair
          • TROLL : Toth21
          • I never felt like this was a bug, but more about the fact that if someone is right up in your face in mel... : Poor Yurik
      • Me too, but it really wasn't challenging for me and I think I chose a pretty "common" path to take. I go... : jingletard
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      Killing scorpions is a great way to reveal the 'run back/shoot' broken combat. Enemies have zero brains ... : jingletard
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        In tight corridors the melee enemies charge me over and over. I havent seen them "break" yet : jigstah
        • Well yeah, in tight quarters, absolutely. Otherwise I've kited mobs for MILES and they just don't really... : jingletard
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        how smart do you expect a mutated scorpion to actually be? Or even the Super Mutants. You'll over a co... : reznory
        • over=overhear : reznory
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          I don't expect rocket science, I just thought enemies would be more tactical than they were. : jingletard
          • What kind of tactics are you expecting mutants and animals to use, though? AI can be argued for human ty... : DinK
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        yeah those stupid fucking scorpions, every scorpion I've ever encountered in real life has at least had e... : derelict515
        • or a pincer maneuver : DonkeyPopsicle
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        they pick up weapons on dead bodies. I remember a super mutant with a mace taking up the mini gun on the ... : TheFatMom
        • They love to go for the minigun : Mondo
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        To be fair, in the previous fallouts you could run away from most enemies. The main difference was that b... : Longinus00
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          Actually, you could run away and shoot. You couldn't completely avoid attacks (usually), but it was ofte... : Arcanum
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            Actually, that was my gold plated strategy for killing ants in the Temple o trials in FO2. Playing a hig... : TShandy
            • Oh goodness no, how deeply flawed! I need to go start that game again JUST so I can not finish it and co... : DinK
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    OK seriously are there ANY first person games where you have ranged weapons and you fight powerful and/or... : DinK
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      Apparently you're supposed to run towards enemies in FPS games regardless of their attacking you until yo... : Psigun
      • Shit I knew this game was missing something. It needs the SPECIALG system! : DinK
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      Perhaps the crux is that in most of those games you aren't 'leveling' you skills. If you're going to rely... : AhmNee
      • you seem to be unable to comprehend the idea of an FPS/RPG hybrid and think that it has to be governed by... : derelict515
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        you hit on lots of stuff here, I'll take it section by section. I'm not sure how the first paragraph i... : DinK
        • Typically those 'wall shots' are with an enemy standing still and if it would have hit it would have been... : AhmNee
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  when will one of you quitters give me the fucking game plz : Downforce
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    Will you promise to play it for longer then 2 hours then bitching about how your character sucks in comba... : Mondo
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      Haha, make him promise to go directly for 10 Agility and 100 Small Arms just to avoid this. : DinK
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        Excellent. There we go. Mandatory builds. That's great. Thing is, my character doesn't suck in combat... : AhmNee
        • Hey, he wants a free game he gets to deal with it. : DinK
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  My one line review so far: the might be the best RPG I've ever played. (and I hated Oblivion) : Poor Yurik
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    I say play more RPGs dawg. : SpaecKow
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      I've played damn near every fuckin pc rpg in existence. Thanks though. : Poor Yurik
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        Except the best ones apparently. Cause while this is a good game there's no chance it's the best ever. : SpaecKow
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          I think you are failing to appreciate the fact that your opinion is an opinion. Just like mine. : Poor Yurik
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            Yes and I of course think your opinion is a faggot, BUT I say this merely as internet convention, do not ... : SpaecKow
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              my brain is melting. goodnight. : Poor Yurik
              • I'll get you next time! : SpaecKow
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    Yeah I agree it's absolutely amazing so far : xxx2xxx
    • i just played til 6am. that says it all. the combat isn't the greatest ever, but it's an rpg, not an acti... : dirge23
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  Response to all your posts: Have you ever heard of fucking circle strafing and dodging?!? Most of the me... : Poor Yurik
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    Maybe what he said further up will shed light on the subject: "Circle strafes are a bandage fix. Running : DinK
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      What really bothers me about his posts is how many options I've seen for dealing with all the enemies in ... : Poor Yurik
      • It's interesting when there's so many options as you describe, yet by default he seems to choose the meth... : DinK

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  still the half-skinned dogs through the window in Resident Evil : redfive
  • Its probably more due to the tender age in which I experienced this, but this is it for me too. : KxRook
  • this. my first video game scare ever and i was not expecting it, at all. : xxiv
  • yep. this will never be beaten. : Daggoth
  • This is mine. : acheron
  • Yea, that made me jump back in the day. : happynoodle
  • yup : qwpeoriu
  • I found the dogs through the window in AITD scarier and earlier : abrasion
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    yeah I basically stopped playing it at that point :( : Perturbation
    • Me too, ahaha. Good times. : antareus
  • another vote for this : aldraek
  • Nothing will ever be able to beat this for me. : Syrek
  • AAAAAH JESUS FUCK : TastyWheat
  • I concur. I was also relieved of some of the pooplings in my undies when this happened. : erebus
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    Clive Barker's Undying when you are in that house! : .frame
    • Fuck yes. Clive Barkers. I had the camera out and looked at a painting on the wall and BAM. GHOULS. : dafugg
  • Mine too : sposh
  • Pleased to see this as the first reply. I didn't even know a game could scare me like that. : yourGarbageMan
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  for me it was the Licker jumping through the two way mirror in Resident Evil 2. : pukerat
  • damn it! : Dschinghis Khan
  • YES. This put me on edge for the rest of the game. : Fish_Bulb
  • Fuck yes : TheGamer11
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  Doom 3 did it a few good times, and I remember System Shock 2 scaring the fuck outta me. I turned it off ... : jonin
  • Oh yea, and a few times on various levels in the theif games. : jonin
  • System Shock 2 and Doom 3. Both of those scared me alot. I could only play for 20 mins at a time. : ifallible
  • I had to play through SS2 on co-op so I could get the moral support of my good friend and co-op partner g... : skitfish
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  it freaked me out when i first got chomped in half in the original prince of persia. I had never seen vio... : GloriousCow
  • Heh, I remember that. It was gruesome. Falling on the spikes grossed me out, too. : crummynz
• the licker jumping through the two way mirror in Resident Evil 2, and Alma fucking with you in FEAR, and ... : Dschinghis Khan
• probably shit spawning behind me in system shock 2 or roommate sneaking into my room and yelling at me wh... : delataur
• Playing Phantasmagoria in middle school. I started playing one afternoon and really got into the game. Un : nevicata
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  Anybody who's played it knows what I'm talking about: The nemesis-like stalker in the "Other Side" run-th... : kallanta
  • Twice. : kallanta
• Reposting my Silent Hill story: My coolest WORLDS COLLIDING! moment like that came in the dead of wint... : SiW.
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  The very start of the original "Alone In The Dark", where the music comes on suddenly and some freakish f... : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Yeah, this is definitely it for me. Keeping in mind, I was about 8 years old when I played the original ... : poindexter1985
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  when i first played the demo of SS2 and the scene in condemned with the locker holy shit. : mindshot
  • i just remembered this http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=8306612 : mindshot
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  Bioshock in the Dentist's office in the Medical area. : LemonJoose
  • Same here. Was NOT expecting that at all. : Zips
• The first time I got jumped at by a head crab in Half-life. I didn't even see it coming and about wet mys... : vertdang
• System Shock 2, those fucking monkeys :( : indosauros
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  Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, The Beach House mission. : Bamtan
  • What's scary about that? Oh, you mean the haunted mansion. : TShandy
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    ^^^ iawtp, and the best part is nothing in there can actually kill you : jimmy-buffett
    • You forgot the elevator : TShandy
  • this is probably up there for me. : dahanese
  • That was very well done. : nevicata
  • yea, nothing else in that game I really found even slightly scary, and then there was this quest. : mtgDoofy
  • I recently installed the game again and basically couldn't keep playing because of this mansion. I'm a wu... : chungathebunga
  • that mission had more atmosphere and tension than all of doom3. The absence of real danger and me picking... : Zolneirz
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    Okay, every time someone has one of these threads, they mention this mission in Vampire. What exactly di... : SLUDGE^
    • It built tension like crazy. I felt relieved just to get the hell out of there, because pretty much the e... : Zolneirz
  • Ah yes, that was fantastic. : grandmasterlee
  • I kept thinking "Fantastic idea Mr Ghost, spooking the biggest and baddest creature of the night." A good... : enyakk
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  shalebridge cradle in thief 3 hands down. It took me days to get through it. : Horn
  • I'm going to agree with this one. I've seen some scary in games, but nothing like the cradle. : Syixxs
• Not a "jump" type scare or anything but getting my head chainsawed off for the first time in Resident Evi... : Serpico74
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  FEAR. the demo got me real good. it was cliche, but i still scared like a bitch. : reverend~heresy
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    That one moment in the demo was worse than any moment in the entire full game: reaching the ladder then s : Kentor
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      yeah, i was scared :( it carried itself through the whole game. i had to get into the mode of, "IT'S JUST... : reverend~heresy
      • Heh I posted about the same moment right after you. That game had a great ambiance and a few shock moment... : Psigun
    • That was in the full game and it wasn't Alma at the bottom, it was Paxton Fettel. But the first time I th... : SystemShock2
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  F.E.A.R. going up the ladder... I'm usually rock solid about not being scared in games but that made jump... : Psigun
  • Same : sanchez
  • Ditto. Also Clive Barker's Undying had a part where they flashed some freaky shit up with some good soun... : plunkymeadows
  • I think same for me : stuka
  • Happened to me too : Archangel2007
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  First level of Doom 3 : _jon
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    Really? When you're walking around and talking to people and everything's all normal? ...you're right... : kallanta
    • First real level, i meant : _jon
  • bwahahaha : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Being chased by the rock worm in Penumbra: Overture. Way less scary when I kept having to repeat it over : cptn.peachfuzz
• Most of System Shock 2, I tried playing the game at night with the lights off, that didn't last long. Had... : mechanicalgrape
• the scare i remember the most i do believe was the first time a monster jumped out of the dark in doom. i... : dahanese
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  System Shock 2, not knowing how the get through the irradiated basement (I'd never found a radiation suit... : cdbeckman
  • also, everything else in that game : cdbeckman
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  Very first Unreal...scene with the lights going out.....also, watching my roomate play silent hill 2. : rt702
  • Definitely this one. That particular Unreal corridor part amazing for the time, too bad the rest of the g... : Stoned Gargoyle
• There's a lot of moments in HL2 that scared the absolute crap out of me more than any other game. One of ... : leaked
• Goddamned doll room in Fatal Frame. : Borzoi
• poltergeist in stalker. : GrimmyD
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  System Shock 2, bitches not growling until they're smacking me with a wrench is not cool. Also the dem... : Cliffzorz
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    YOUR SONG IS NOT OURS : ifallible
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      Arrgh! *runs away screaming* : Cliffzorz
      • We ARE, we ARE, we ARE... : T-900
  • "Silence... the discord." : Killrig
• Not the scariest, but Resident Evil D.C. had the most memorable one for me. Some old scares were gone : Marauder IIC
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  I've got to say the first Silent Hill -- specifically because I had no idea what to expect from the game.... : reelbk
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    Man, I'm totally with you... But for me the final "I can't do this anymore" moment in the game was when t... : kallanta
    • Yes! I remember that exactly. The siren went off, and my buddy and I just went "WTFFFF????" : reelbk
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  Fatal Frame. The fucking heartbeat when ghosts are around had me nervous and I couldn't find the fucking ... : Vincent Grayson
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    After i hit the doll room it's only a matter of time before I have to just completely stop playing- eithe : Borzoi
    • I still haven't finished Fatal Frame. And I've tried 3 or 4 times. The game is just too dang creepy for... : BioMonk
• Nocturne was the first game that made me jump a bit in my seat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturne_(Ga... : sharkII
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  None of you fuckers played Thief 3, which is a shame because it's awesome. : TaintedSyringe
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    Shalebridge : TaintedSyringe
    • This has my vote, though Silent Hill 3 freaked me out too : megarust32
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  Condemned: Criminal Origins, when you find the body in the locker. You zoom in with your camera to take a... : beanman101283
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY7uZ7cwhKk : jane911
    • spoiler for that part of the game^ : jane911
• This part in Doom 3 where you had to pick up some red armor or some shit that was sitting in front of a s... : stump
• Definitely Marine missions in AVP or AVP2 - pitch black corridor with the motion tracker making the terri... : MaddeningLoop
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  Going deep in the alien hive in AvP 2 and then running screaming backwards all the way out of that hell h... : gyrfalcon
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    That and the one part of the FEAR expansion wear your buddy gets literally lifted into the air, thrown ag... : gyrfalcon
    • *where dammit : gyrfalcon
  • I couldn't even get THAT far... the game killed me way before that point... christ that was freaky. : kallanta
  • I have vivid memories of that very scene. Backpeddling out of the hive, firing grenades as fast as I cou... : SeaLlama
  • This is mine. That campaign was pure panic the whole way through. : TastyWheat
  • That was my favourite level. : crummynz
• Condemed: Criminal Origins - the addict that lunges at you when you check out the noise over a hand raili... : bad_fish
• first time evr playing AvP scared the bejeezus out of me. : beastrabban
• When I got a Soundblaster card for Doom 1 : spiderfill
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  WoW after typing in /played : Anti_dentite
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    By the time I quit, it was almost 3 and a half MONTHS of playtime... goddamn... that makes me sad. : kallanta
    • I wonder how many people have /played over a YEAR. I think I was close. : mojorisen1117
• Playing F.E.A.R. at night in total darkness. I'm sitting there, just finished up a huge fight and there'... : GoS-CPT-Stewart
• SS2, demo vs retail. Not sure how many remember this, but in the demo of System Shock 2, there are no gho... : Dslyecxi
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  Siren I was still new to the game and was just sightjacking random shibito and I passed by a channel... : Malku
  • this is what makes siren one of the all time best horror games. : Borzoi
  • I loved Siren: Blood Curse for the PS3. That game freaked me out about 2 billion percent more than Dead S... : Killrig
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  STALKER... near the end of the game. When the ghost dog things come out of nowhere and "fake" attack you. : Sebastian-TEC
  • I blasted the shit out of three of those things before I realized that they couldn't harm you :(. Waste ... : Malku
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  Call of Cthulhu Dark Corners of the Earth when you are running away from the townsmen in the hotel. I don... : freshyk
  • Yeah, that was a brilliant sequence. : Arceihn
• So many scary moments where you just throw down the controller, or hit escape in a flash... Right now ... : sreyes22
• Has anyone said Doom 3? lol. Happened when you first get to go outside and everything gets FUCKED UP and ... : giantshift
• Condemned I remember being my last one but Dead Space is going to take the mantle this time. : Sailor of Fortune
• For me I think it's got to be Brookhaven Hospital in Silent Hill 3. Particularly the first room - the who... : Arceihn
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  Condemned and Doom 3, involving mannequins and mirrors, respectively :[ : nomaad
  • Condemned-- Oh god yes, I got to the department store and just started whacking stuff with my weapon beca : silentw
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  marine missions in AVP. Holy shit : filthysock
  • Same here. AVP was the only game I bought for my Atari Jaguar, and I have such vivid memories of crawling... : Gnowknayme
  • Yup. Alien vs. Predator for the Atari Jaguar is probably my #1. High level of tension throughout the whol... : afty04
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  The entire Haunted Cathedral level in Thief. The sound work was just too good. : blender81
  • the zombie levels in theif and theif 2 were excellent. scary as fuck :( : AMikaboshi
• My first ever scare in a video game: The original Doom 2. I don't remember the exact level, but it's pre : Syrek
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  When playing Tomb Raider 2 about 10 years ago with my bro and sis we were on the Great Wall of China miss... : zooolander
  • Those goddamn giant underwater eel things were worse! : Splinebastard
• The spot in FEAR when at the start of the level, you <Use> a long ladder going down and as you gain contr... : AxeMan808
• AvP 1. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Resident Evil Dogs jumping through the windows : sm00v3d
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  in RE4 when you need to go get the puzzle piece with Ashley and the armors start walking : derean
  • oh shit yeah that was awesome. that and the first time you encouter the invisible creatures in the sew... : barichnikov
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  Doom 3, in the 342nd room where when you enter, the closets open and the zombies pour out. Man, that was ... : Beady
  • in Delta 2B of Doom 3, I jumped out of my chair the first time I found the plasmagun in the long dark cor : the archvile
• the end of F.E.A.R. when Alma starts going all crazy like the girl in The Ring : kill9
• the first Doom. my mom bought it for me as a present when it was released in '93. it was a dark room, a... : i poop from there
• me and my friend like to refer to it as "fire zombie". It was my first run through of RE4 ever, and my f... : TheVietSpecial
• A few games manage to make me jump, but most of them are just followed by me going "goddamnit" and making : Splinebastard
• In Half-Life 2, in the lockerroom/bathroom in Nova Prospekt, when that enormous Antlion Guard was chasing... : mysteryperfecta
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  Alone in the dark 1, cos I was about 9 or something. since then Silent Hill 2 and AvP 1 : 60days
  • specific point being the eyes hovering in the chair, knowing if you went further into the room they would... : 60days
• Ah oh yes, Resident evil 4, my failed attempt at fishing in the lake... : Splinebastard
• The ghost in the mirror in Undying. : Stage
• On Bioshock.. picked up a diary and listened.. turned around and there was a guy just standing there. Mad... : matt518
• Serious Sam 2: The installer BSOD'd and after that I couldn't boot into windows. I thought I had lost eve... : rosewood
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  Chronologically speaking, it would have been the T-Rex in the first Tomb Raider, followed by the creepy s... : wytefang
  • Oh man, that splicer... I nearly pissed myself. : .sticks.
  • Another bioshock scare: When your in the flooded part and you need to get something from the artists area : DM7
• The very beginning of the first Alone in the Dark game. I didn't have any clue how to play so I decided ... : mojorisen1117
• For some reason I was hearing voices in my head while taking breaks from Doom 3 : I7 SilverFox
• STALKER: The very first underground lab you go into along the story. Was around midnight, had no lights o... : SusanTD
• I didn't find FEAR scary at all, but AVP 1 and 2 were scary as hell playing as a marine. I remember fin : windowpane
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  Long Post Warning I love scary video games. Here's my list of scary ones that everyone should play: Spoi : DM7
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    FYI: You can pick up Condemned on Direct2Drive. http://www.direct2drive.com/2737/product/Buy-Condemned... : cptn.peachfuzz
    • hmm! Interesting : DM7
• Being chased by the Machin Shin in the Ways in that old Wheel of Time FPS. I ran in a panic in what I tho... : GreatGooglyMoogly
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  "D" for the Saturn. The hand coming out of the mirror scared me to shit. : packav
  • all the games by that guy are sooooo good- D, D2 and Enemy Zero- Enemy Zero holds up surprisingly well fo... : Borzoi
• Bioshock, in sandler cohen's area, with the manquins.......wtf was wrong with that man : flyingbags
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  Friday the 13th for SNES : dognose
  • It was for the NES I believe actually (I rented it a lot...meat cleaver for the win!). : Vorlonesque
• what's the best way to play SS2 nowadays? : sumo-hacker
• DOOM 2 when a revenant popped out at me from no where. For some reason I remember I was listening to Bla... : ADSliv
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  Bathtub in Eternal Darkness : GodZilly
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    That got me good. : kallanta
    • Me too. Not a lot of jump-scares in that game, so I wasn't expecting it at all. : undead radio
  • the medieval and 18th c. levels were so scary....i <3 that game. : Borzoi
  • In that sequence, I dropped my controller and screamed "Jesus Christ!" I heart Eternal Darkness. :D : Killrig
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  Wolfenstein 3D - When you're moving through a bunch of secret doors and you finally get to the secret roo : Bruzilla
  • Wolf3D definitely gave me a couple scares like that too. but from the regular guys with the loud scream : RikiTiki2
• pretty much all of Fatal Frame (s) : deathofrats
• Prob the ending of Phantasmagoria : MoreVespeneGas
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  No one else for the hammer haunts in the first Thief game? Snuck up behind one thinking it was just an... : murray
  • Thinking more about it, it probably didn't help that I only ever played it at 3 a.m. with all the lights ... : murray
• First time I encountered a face hugger in AvP1 : Sideways Bob
• I got a good one but it's situational. I was playing Doom 3 at my computer. A few feet behind my comput... : ntrefz
• BTW, I found this 2 part video on youtube randomly a couple months ago. It has the videos from some of t... : ntrefz
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  HALF-LIFE 2 Those fucked up black crabs. They don't actually harm you, but jesus they scare the piss out ... : Orange Pylon
  • ive sworn off of ravenholm in hl2. I will never venture back into that place. Not even with the Co-op mod... : Psychoblade187
• I would have to say AVP II hands DOWN it was late at night. my room was dark my graphics cranked up full.... : OOa007
• This was scary as hell when you're in junior high and like 12 years old or so. Playing Friday the 13th... : Derringer

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• I have the 50" version of that and its awesome. : theWhite
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  Looks good, although I wouldn't go with anything less than 40in if you can pull it. The 40in is only $99... : ant_hillbilly
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    i'm going to be sitting about 8 to 10ft away from the screen. would 40in be overkill? : das_runt
    • At 10 feet, 40" is the minimum size they recommend on that page. It won't be overkill. : pyrogen
    • hell no... I sit about 7-8ft from my 40" Samsung HDTV and it's fine. I don't think I'd want to go an... : Shadowdane
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      Not at all, at 10ft I would go even say go for the 46in. But that will run ya up to $1250 and I doubt yo... : ant_hillbilly
      • At 10 feet, I would even go 52". I'm at about 7 feet from my TV and the 46" is just right. : AlvinKlein
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      for a screen of size X you should be 1.5 -2 x away so for 8-10 feet you can go up to 60 inches http... : smellslikefish
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        thanks everyone. my only other concern is how it fits in the room, or rather if it's sheer size (40in)... : das_runt
        • take her to the store and let her look at them worked for me :) : smellslikefish
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          40" isn't nearly as big as you think it is : Shadowdane
          • Yeah I don't care what size you get, you're going to eventually wish you bought a bigger one. I only sit... : DinK
    • LOL. NO TV is overkill for that distance. You would need a 72" screen to get the THX recommended viewin... : DinK
    • Dude, it is not overkill... Get at least the 40.. I have the 46 of this and it rocks. My friend got the 4... : jbph24
    • 8-10 feet is roughly between a 50" and 60" set. Smaller would be a crime. : sukabljat
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  I didn't see it but I would look into Tv's with 120Hz if they fall into your price range. : rlc:tk
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    though it's nice, it's not really something i'd consider a must have. it tends to add quite a bit to the... : Korban
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      ahh yeah, a friend has a tv with it, looks great with gaming, but I have no clue prices. Too lazy to loo... : rlc:tk
      • price was really the only thing that threw me. when i was looking, 120hz added $1000 to the price : Korban
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      I'm in the camp that thinks it actually looks worse than 60. The motion has a hyper-smoothness to it that... : rudds
      • i think it's still too early in its lifetime, there are bound to be plenty of improvements to it over the... : Korban
      • Maybe they'll improve it in the future but I have the latest Samsung 46" A650. I have to turn the 120Hz a... : AlvinKlein
      • 120hz doesn't do this. AMP does it. Turn off AMP and all 120hz does is get rid of any pulldown techniqu... : cltcprd
• I have the 46" version, it is phenomenal. Especially for the price. : rudds
• I've got a 47in and only sit 10-12 away. I love it. : the rizzo
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  Jesus christ who spends $900 dollars on a tv?! Are you rich or something? : D45hiz
  • hmm : drucifer
  • lol : invisible_kid
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    I own a 185 inch Panasonic Plasma TV and it cost me 21 000$.. To each its own hobby : Utopia
    • You don't actually watch it, though. You just stare at it. Wondering. Hoping. : Deathlove
    • does that thing brown out the block? : cpt_gloval
    • Goddamn man where does that baby fit in your house ? : MrLobo
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      pics : oHnOES
      • he doesn't have any money left for a camera : SlamDunk
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      uh, are you sure about that? I don't think there is an 185 inch plasma in production from any manufacture... : OrkO
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        just to get an idea how big 185" would be, here is a photo of panasonic 150" plasma they announced in jan... : OrkO
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          a better photo http://heyna.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/150inchplasma.jpg : OrkO
          • thats not a TV that's a stargate : graceofdragons
  • My 56" LED DLP was $1450, 7 months ago. : xelencin
  • lol : gmd
  • been to any store carrying TVs lately? : Postal
  • lol... I spent about $1500 when I got mine. $900 is cheap! : Shadowdane
  • hahahahahaha : geneshifter
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    this post can't be serious : action roommate
    • if it is, this person needs a better job asap. : geneshifter
  • 0_o : derelict515
  • Opening firefox to [lol] this : indosauros
  • under obama's tax plan i am rich but don't worry, he will soon be taking my money and redistributing it t... : qwpeoriu
  • $700 26" computer monitor here :D : sanchez
  • Guys Chill and read this subthread http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=18329189#itemanchor_18329189 : D45hiz
  • If you guys think this is serious you probably havnt been around here as long as d45hiz : historyinthemaking
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  We have that same model for our bedroom. Picture quality is A++, but the built in sound SUCKS! : Smitty
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    orly? did you buy a new sound system to compensate? : das_runt
    • not yet...any recommendations for a small sound system for a bedroom? : Smitty
  • Oh yeah, the sound is complete shit... sounds like muddled FM radio. You're gonna need something else to ... : jbph24
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  Buy this one, instead: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Viera-TH-42PZ85U-42-Inch-Plasma/dp/B00142JKRW/ref... : sukabljat
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    Bingo. I have the 50 inch. Soooooo nice. New plasmas out perform most lcds and are cheaper dueto their b... : historyinthemaking
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      the glare is bad with those, though. that's my reason i've stayed away from plasmas. : geneshifter
      • Wut??? I have experience no glare ever. : historyinthemaking
• I just bought this for my bedroom. It's an excellent mid-range LCD. HD cable and the Xbox 360 look grea... : raeven

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  ROCKETS on the VEHICLES. BIG ROCKETS. : DrWaffles
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    BIG FUN! Oh, and I'd like there to be fewer briefcases with more diamonds in them. Nothing is more stu... : Jumperus
    • I found a briefcase with 4 Diamonds in it! : AxeMan808
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  ^^^ IAWTP. Helicopters would be badass, have a Hind show up and mess you something fierce. I think the... : MercFox1
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    Agreed on the plane. It would be nice to be able to fly around. Even parachute. Shit, that would be badas... : Jumperus
    • I don't know, never tried driving north again. : MercFox1
  • Even one of those light planes that's basically a lawn chair attached to a hang glider with a big fan in ... : Sailor of Fortune
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  Motorcycles ffs : aldraek
  • I thought about it, but did you ever go first person on a GTA IV bike? I wanted to puke. : node
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  I have trouble playing any FPS now without my nanosuit :/ : abrasion
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    dude same here. Those damn suit options are so awesome : Trips
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      How can you play a game without CLOAK ENGAGED ? How, I don't think it's possible :( : abrasion
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        I miss my MAXIMUM SPEED the most : Trips
        • I almost never use it :( : abrasion
        • MAXIMUM STRENGTH punching koreans is always fun tho :( : nomaad
      • I replayed Crysis last month or so and it kinda made me want another Deus Ex with all the cool techy snea... : DinK
  • It'd be nice if they gave you the option of heavy armor or camo suit. Maybe something else. : Jumperus
• More cars, Mopeds, leaning, Big Game (ie tigers and lions and other predators you have to watch out for, ... : IHATEDUST
• laser pointers : Marauder IIC
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  Is there source code modding for Far Cry 2? : spiderfill
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    Nope, no SDK or readily-editable files. It sucks so much. : DrWaffles
    • I can't believe I can't change the binds to piloting the hangglider or exiting mounted weapons. SO stupid... : Trips
• I don't know about mods but I just got this tonight and it owns. I agree with Abrasion's earlier post abo... : Rampancy
• More faction vs. faction battles. Would be interesting to see random gunfights erupt when one faction's p... : blender81
• A mod where drivers in subcompacts do not go ramming speed against a guy with a grenade launcher mounted ... : Wyvern
• A teleporter : tcs
• Mod in Jagged Alliance 2 voices and campaign. : Sailor of Fortune
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  Weapon Attachments! Ability to carry the Machete and ANY 3 weapons (or even a Pistol Class (including ALL... : AxeMan808
  • the dartgun is also pretty much instant hit too : GloriousCow
• Different melee weapons might be fun actually, minor thing and probably a bitch to mod in tough if they n... : node
• Dinosaurs. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Hijack - Anyone got the stealth suit yet? Is it worth it? Stealth is kinda fun in the game, but you usual... : node
  • the uzi is amazing. Maybe I'm imagining things but it almost feels more powerful than the other rifles/LM... : GloriousCow
  • be sure to get that extra ammo belt. it adds 30 more rounds to the clip. : baconisgod
  • Yes, it's very effective. In the dark, while crouched in the grass, they have to be about 2 meters away f... : Marauder IIC
• Wakes from the boats. It'd be cool to see the effects on docked boats and even more fun to bounce over t... : industro
• Helicopters. Some sort of a stealth meter, maybe. More destructable buildings : GloriousCow
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  actual open environment so you can drive in a straight line instead of through the jungles and stuff. fuc... : baconisgod
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    Wait until you hit the 32% mark....... : Drewus
    • i quit at like 62% or so I think. Now I'm attempting fallout : baconisgod
• Fuck, some of the field surgery is brutal. I just lit a bunch of matches to cauterise a wound O_O. Been p... : node

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  Very! : tangles
  • I wonder if there will be a time when every household will be able to have one of these. That would be ... : Maddog_Delphi97
• Wow, that's ridiculously cool. I had heard about second light but didn't quite understand it until seeing... : ColoradoCNC
• That is just amazing. : chazums
• there's some good steganographic applications for that : Cheeziologist
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  That's nifty and all, but I really can't find a practical application for that. Who wants to hold up tra... : twifosp
  • That's what I was thinking. I mean... if you want that information then why not just ... display that? : K1Bond007
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    Medical field. You have the display showing an external, full surface photograph of the patient's body... : IndigoAK
    • Fuck.. no wonder health care costs are rising. : K1Bond007
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      Just get them a second monitor. No need to blow money on this. : Longinus00
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        Or just give them a single monitor and tell them they don't need to see the skin while they're looking at... : DinK
        • "hold the ctrl key to toggle the inside view" : boring gegtik
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    do you not understand why people use 2 monitors at a time either? : derelict515
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      do you think secondlight is like using two monitors at a time? : Luminair
      • no, its significantly different, but performs a similar purpose : derelict515
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        It's like buying a second monitor at a 20 grand markup. : Longinus00
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          YEAH JUST LIKE THAT LOLZ : derelict515
          • We should just stop trying to improve things because fuck it they are good enough now!!! : dilutedq
  • It is an interesting idea but I also cannot see why this is a big deal. It's a pretty simple thing and pe... : dooberzoo
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    Fuck the advancement of ideas. : hirosushima
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      Fuck legitimate inquiry into the usefulness of ideas. : Chris Remo
      • Not all technologies are able to be immediately applicable/appreciated by all. Touch displays, accelerom... : jake
      • Second Light is a Microsoft Research Project that explores one possible avenue for future interfaces with... : Kentor
      • look at this lump of clay, how ugly and useless it is : spaceless
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    It's undeniably cool, but I tend to agree with you... it's like they have this beautful touchscreen inter... : five_percent
    • I think you might be thinking of it backwards. Rather than seeing these as things that obscure a touchsc : SiW.
  • blueprints? map overlays? I mean, really, it probably wouldn't be used for things like that, but, even... : boarder2
  • Museums is the first thing I thought of : rosewood
  • museums or schools. Looks awesome : bozer
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    Uses for it will come later. Lots of things started out as curiosities with no immediate perceived use or... : systatic
    • Like breasts : rosewood
• That is really clever! : terath
• Wow that is neat. : nomaad
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  Neat way of displaying data. Wonder if this is replacing their Microsoft Surface. : DHAvatar
  • well the touchscreen interface they are using *is* Surface. : mwasher
• that's pretty awesome : deject
• awesome++ : sharkII
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2X3XPw9vP8 Wait until the 58 second mark.. touch in three dimensions. : Maddog_Delphi97
  • wow thats cool. Its like a crystal ball : bozer
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    Insert a fleshlight in this and you got yourself a winner : Utopia
    • Fuck the world. : windowpane
    • hahahhahahaaa : Maddog_Delphi97
• sweet : I7 SilverFox

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  The players animation is one of the weakest points in the game, but it's improved from Oblivions human's ... : Mondo
  • in my head they both look equally primative : Luminair
• They need GTA4's animations. : _jon
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  I've noticed more and more this generation a gap between animation from traditionally PC devs and console... : 60days
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    Am I reading your post wrong or are you seriously bringing this up as a console vs. pc issue? : hoov1185
    • DUDE HE TOTALLY IS : _jon
• Fifa 09 has probably the best blending i've ever seen. : Foxhawk
• Or when you fall off a ledge it looks like he's doing a "toothpick" into a swimming pool. : zakazi
• Play in first person view. : razlebol
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  I don't know why they still bother to give you a third person perspective if they always do it so horribl... : YamatoTwinkie
  • i use third person while looking for mines : oHnOES
  • It works fine in VATS, but yeah, it still looks stupid walking around. : Vincent Grayson
• Bethesda couldnt animate thier way out of paper bag :( : theWhite
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  this was one of the "it's oblivion with guns" worries that many of us had :( : geneshifter
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    While this game does rock and is in many ways much better than oblivion, it does seem to carry over the w... : theWhite
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      yeah I know. And when I would post my concerns about it on here, all I got back was "You're an idiot." o... : geneshifter
      • BTW, I'm loving the game too it's just all the annoying things like you said. : geneshifter
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        you still suck. : hamachi
        • lol : geneshifter
      • It's because all the things you're treating as the worst horrible stuff to bring over from Oblivion are a... : DinK
      • because those are really minor issues in the grand scheme of things when you consider how the game actual... : derelict515
    • I'm pretty sure the exploration music was stolen from an uncompleted oblivion expansion pack. not only d... : Luminair
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      the NPC talk is a lot better, and some of it is downright awesome. : Vincent Grayson
      • Its not so much what they say, but the frequency that they say is. if you have a couple people walking ar... : theWhite
    • If it carried over the worst traits, I probably wouldn't be playing it right now. I carries over some of ... : Chris Remo
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  Two things Bethesda is really bad at: 1) character animation 2) character textures (particularily human... : johnny rotten
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    The humans look *MUCH* better this time than they did in Oblivion. Still not great, but much better. T... : Vincent Grayson
    • yeah I think the models/textures themselves are much better than Oblivion, but they're still horribly ani... : derelict515
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  pretty much every animation in the game is godawful : JINKY
  • You must use your imagination, JINKY. It is the only way. : CrustaR
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  The worst thing is when I'm smashing someone in the face with a sledgehammer, and there is no animation. ... : d3pr1ved
  • Maybe they have an unusually large tolerance to pain? : CrustaR
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  If you want immersion, play in first person. =( : DinK
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    Creeping around in 3rd person is pretty immersive : Mondo
    • Yeah? Probably almost as much as first person huh? =) Seriously I find it quite a bit more immersive... : DinK
• the animations on the whole, 3rd person or otherwise, are seriously underwhelming : derelict515

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  Srsly this looks soooo much better than the old interface. Wish I had gotten into the preview program. : Carnivac
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    I respectfully disagree, thank goodness I can bring up blades : Yanks
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      Fair enough. Don't like avatars or the whole thing not your speed? : Carnivac
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        There are certain things about it that make it take longer to do things, like the superfluous "browse fri... : Yanks
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          Yeah friends list stuff is definitely going to be more efficient through the blades, no argument there. ... : Carnivac
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            The friends list has always been on the guide, it's still there. The avatars give you a way to see who is... : R.Cade
            • the important thing is speed. Even in the blades it takes a loooong time to get to your friends list and... : dedgecko
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    I will say after using NXE for the last few months, going back to the blades when I bought a new Elite (a... : two50six
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      You can answer this then: MORE THAN 200 FRIENDS Y/N : Yanks
      • 100 rather : Yanks
• awesome thanks : Vanitas
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  i like how fast everything is now : pandastrong
  • that's the big thing for me. It look so much quicker moving around the UI. : FormerHPB
  • That's really all I care about. : mittense
  • Much, much faster. It's almost instant, even when using the bumpers to scroll to the end of a list. : brickmatt
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  Avatars question: Are you planning to make an avatar somewhat like yourself, or different, or just try to... : Carnivac
  • Depends on all the options that you have. I might make someone looking like B.A. Baracus or I might make ... : sigpro
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    I plan on ignoring that garbage. I'm not into dolls. One reason I like the shack is that there are no a... : FormerHPB
    • I'm going to break into your house and make an avatar on your Xbox. : tashtego
  • I don't know I guess I'll play around with it : nomaad
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    I tried to make the ugliest possible avatar, wanted to make a small fatty, but you can only choose 3 size... : TheFatMom
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      Haha here's your avatar: http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/fatmom/avatar-body.png : Carnivac
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        And brickmatt http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/brickmatt/avatar-body.png : Carnivac
        • I know a girl who looks like that. : Sailor of Fortune
      • yep, heres mine http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/rezlogic/avatar-body.png : two50six
    • What? THere are more than 3 levels of fatness. You can click multiple times on the more fat/less fat ar... : gigaduck
  • I'll make one and leave it. I don't have any aversion to simply having it. : omnova
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    Another avatars question: Is my gamertag going to take even longer to recover now when I go to a friend's... : Haxim
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      Why do you recover your gamertag at a friends place? Just play as a guest. : antareus
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        But my achievements!!! : Haxim
        • Please say you're kidding. : antareus
    • can't you just buy a memory card and take that with you? : MisterPhoton
  • You cant really ignore them. : two50six
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  i'm just getting my xbox back today. I hope this update doesnt brick it. : ultramega
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    ? The update will not brick your console : two50six
    • Yes, it will. They specifically made this update to brick ultramega's 360. : cyclonebee
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  This is only for beta people right? : kpxkrnjc
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    Until November 19, yeah. : Carnivac
    • Thought it was the 11th? : Phreakin
  • Until November 19th. : mancide
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  HDCP needed for Netflix?!! Did you guys catch that? I'm assuming that is only over HDMI, because I don'... : exigence7
  • I'm sure it only kicks in if you have HDMI. : mancide
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    If I had to guess, HD movie rentals probably require it, but regular old SD ones probably do not. : Yanks
    • I feel like there would be a pretty bad backlash if you had to have HDMI to get HD Netflix. I sure hope ... : exigence7
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    Confirmed component is fine http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/30/debunk-xbox-360-streams-hd-netflix-over-... : Carnivac
    • Ah sweet. Thank you for that. : exigence7
    • like I said, its fine. : two50six
    • What about VGA? : K1Bond007
  • component doesn't require it - that's been tested. you only run into problems if you're trying to use a... : Postal
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    huh? Thats incorrect. I was using a standard component connection on my old box and Netflix worked just f... : two50six
    • Also notice he's running it through his Capture Hardware, which is why he got that message. : two50six
  • I hope VGA works. I wonder if the Netflix Player for PC's will do HD? : Halen
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  just installed fallout3 on my xbox hard drive, took 10min. : TheFatMom
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    oh well, looks like the loading speed are the same, and I still see a few popups now and then when playin... : TheFatMom
    • I bet it quieter though. : FormerHPB
    • Actually no, loading speeds are a bit faster, about 10sec faster I've noticed, did the same last night. S... : two50six
• I wonder if i can have my videos that i stream from my PC show up like the netflix list, so i can assign ... : EagleSweet
• Looking for molester.... AH, there we go ahahahaha : action roommate
• this guy is cracking me up... anyone else laughing uncontrollably? : sludge vohaul
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  MyGamerCard.net have a new style with avatars you can link to http://inside.mygamercard.net/2008/10/30/ne... : Carnivac
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    I think my avatar turned out well. It looks like me! : brickmatt
    • you look like a flat lesbian chick? just kidding : xxiv
    • They've got headshots too http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/brickmatt/avatarpic-l.png : Carnivac
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  I fucking love the update. Installing to HD for fallout 3 made it load faster, and now the DVD drive does... : brickmatt
  • Glad you dig it :) : two50six
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    Does it copy the whole CD to disk? or just parts of it? : loke662
    • from my understanding it pretty much copies the whole game, but the disc is needed in the drive. : two50six
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    So it should be a tad quieter then too, right? : Halen
    • much much quieter : two50six
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  will the NXE fix how long its been taking for me to log into XBL when starting up my xbox? Is anyone else... : MisterPhoton
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    how long does it take? : jimmy_legs
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      anywhere from 15-30 sec., when it used to log on almost immediately upon hitting the dashboard. : MisterPhoton
      • Hm. I have a pause of about 5-10s for my ID to login and connect up. MAYBE 15, but never timed it. Nev... : jimmy_legs
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    I used to get this back around December last year when everyone else was, but it typically takes me only ... : Haxim
    • yep, everything else runs fine once it connects. Sometimes it takes so long that I have to sit at a black... : MisterPhoton
• I wish I had a bigger hard drive for the install to drive capabilities in the update. Witht he 20 GB HD ... : c_man_tmt
• New promo video on Avatars in games http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/10/31/new-xbox-experience-avatar... : Carnivac
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  Ahahaha. This guy's really funny. : Rice-Rocketeer
  • "Like this gentleman... with his hair..." : cyclonebee
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  Loading times comparison: http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/10/31/nxe-loading-time-comparison/ : Carnivac
  • lol what the hell, they don't let canadians watch video of a game loading : Luminair
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    lol that sounds like epic fail Each of the games took about 11 minutes to install and required between : Downforce
    • What did you expect? 15 seconds is a pretty big chunk out of a 45-60 second load time. : uncleanmonkey
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      Definitely worth it to avoid using the optical drive alone. : c_man_tmt
      • ^^^^ I'd sustain 30 minute installs and 0 second load gains to not use that drive. : abrasion
    • thats just the initial load time. what about other loading times during games? its not going to be inst... : pandastrong
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  Holy shit. The fallout 3 loading is fucking long compared to PC. It doesnt even have time to do a quarter... : razlebol
  • Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I guess cause it's a little laptop HDD and not a SATA drive with a sh... : Dynotaku
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  Uh... what's the point of installing a game if you still have to mess with the disks? Reduced noise from ... : Dynotaku
  • exactly : trelain
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    some of our xboxs are load as fuck. : nyranger66
    • Berserker! : Stoned Gargoyle
    • wtf "load", i meant loud >:( : nyranger66
  • Yes. What did you expect? Blockbuster to turn into 'buy new games for $7'? : derelict515
  • Plus the thought that you aren't pushing your dvd drive to failure, because they break a lot. : ant_hillbilly
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    the disc drive's like 80% of the xbox's noise, and basically IS the noise i hear when i'm playing a game ... : xsoulbrothax
    • It's never bothered me until Fable, damn Fable must really need it. Seems all the games that use the d... : Sailor of Fortune
  • So Fable 2 doesn't make my god damn xbox 360 take off and hover. : pancake humper
  • should reduce texture pop in a lot, not having the long seek times of the DVD... : the_doctor
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    The same reason you install games on the PC but still have to insert the CD. Faster load times, less wear... : OverloadUT
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      Although I wonder if someone will come up with a simple hack that allows you to eject the tray without th... : OverloadUT
      • Be kind of bad ass if you can network the CD check within a local network. : Sailor of Fortune
  • Yeah, my 360 sounds like a 747 on takeoff. : stump
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    finishing 7 day survivor on Dead Rising with out disk read errors. : bugsY
    • Same here, 'cept the game is GTA4. : thejm4n
  • Actually I think Dunotaku, you may find that it may end up being reduced NOISE FROM THE CONSOLE, AS IN IT : abrasion
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