Leaked Warhammer 40K: Space Marine Footage Shows 'Intimate Brutality'

Has nice graphics. Does a good job creating the 40k look and feel.
However, there are a lot of things wrong wtih the universe being depicted.

- The Space Marine was holding a two-handed bolter in one hand.

- When using an off-hand chainsword, the other hand should be holding a bolt pistol instead.

- Bolters, of all types, are NOT machine guns. They are hand-held rocket launchers. Imagine a gun shaped rocket launcher that fires 2 to 3 rockets per second. The rockets moving at about twice the speed of a Quake 1 rocket. Though with smaller explosions.

- Bolter damage should be greater. An bolt should pass right through an unarmored target (punching a fist-sized hole) and explode against the wall behind him. A bolt should penetrate Space Marine armor, if it gets a solid hit and doesn't glance off. For an armored Space Marine: If a bolt round gets inside his armor, it will explode within. For limbs, that means limb loss. For torso, that means death.

BTW, Bolt rounds are huge.
About the size of a modest dildo.

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the animation is just horrible. Hope they are just placeholders...... The run has no weight, strides are far too long, shoulders exaggerated - he moves like a anime character. Why is he holding a dual wield gun pistol style? Ugly transitions between animation cycles, mechanical looking melee combos... very underwhelmed.

Well i have to say that its just a first hand look and not a final product. but in my 12 years of play Warhammer 40k on the board and when it came out on computer and later on into ps2, id have to say i kinda like the direction of this game. mainly cause it would settle some curiosity of how it might be being a space marine the most powerful warrior the human race has. Yes there are some bad things and yes there are good things but comon its just a video leek. its not the end of the video game world so put your underwear back on and man up.

God damn you all bitch about alot of shit for a video that is LEAKED. Any of you over=critical fuckwads ever consider that its a PRE ALPHA BUILD that SHOULDNT have been seen by any of you twats.

GOW like or not it looks good and the camera crap can and will be fixed. Its just a promo video for fucks sake, You all whine like its the final product, Its overcritical fucks like you all that keep this kind of thing from happening more often. No producer in their right mind would take their labor of love and drop it into the shark tank of ungrateful hypercritical unapeasable shits that you all are. You all make me ashamed to even call myself a gamer OR fan of WH40k.

Just a bunch of punks.

Sweet - another game with a single player who runs around meleeing people to death, despite being in the year 40,000. I imagine the game pitch went something like: "take god of war and replace assets with 40k stuff." Too bad having a single marine run around while bad guys jump out of transports 3 at a time has nothing to do with the IP. Did we learn nothing from the abortion that was Fire Warrior?

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/warhammer40000firewarrior

To make this game awesome all they had to do was copy Gears of War, change assets to 40k, and add many more friendly/enemy AI units to the action -- but instead we get this.

So... it's a RPG now...

I liked Dawn of War cause it was a very unique RTS. This shouldn't even be considered a RTS anymore, it's a RPG. I was very much hoping for another RTS. They should've branded it with a different name rather then DoW2 to reflect how different the game is from DoW. While it looks cool, I'm rather disapointed that this isn't a RTS.

No buildings, third person action, using abilities and having control of one or a couple characters. *sigh*

actually it looks more too humanesque than gears of war esque besides that they wear oversized suits. too human looked more fun though

I like the fact that THQ is trying to build an action game based on W40K but aside from the quality of the art assets this does not look good. This is too Devil May Cry/Ninja Gaiden-ish and it's too focused on single player. Any WH40k action game should be multiplayer focused and feature all the major armies of WH40K. I don't care how daunting a task it would be to implement Marines, Eldar, Orks, Imperial Guard, Tyranids, etc. If it's WH40K you need to be able to play as the race of your choice and customize your characters look, gear, and abilities as you rank up. Running around as a Space Marine, and only a Space Marine, is a disservice to the franchise. Also, they can fuck off with their "get up close and bash em" philosophy. I'll do close combat or shoot from afar whenever I god damn well please and if you build a game that doesn't give me that flexibility then I won't buy it. God damnit what the fuck is it going to take for someone to make a WH40K game that plays like Battlefield 2/Planetside and has EVE Online type naval battles going on overhead?

Bolter needs to tear apart regular, soft human targets. The focus on up close melee is fine for chaos marines, xenos filth, etc, but when an explosive bullet hits a traitor guardsman or cultist they should get torn up. As it stands, it just takes away from the sense of power of the marine's most commonly used ranged weapon and makes it look like a pee shooter.

This looks dissappointing. It's like, fire nerf bolter, then run up and watch your character do a combo on some poor defenseless sap. Even the Chaos Marine was a pushover. Chaos Marines should be hard as hell.

It'd be great if they realeased some kind of survial/squad style game that rewards you for staying together (kinda like left 4 dead), where you and a few other Marines have to fight through waves of cultists/tyranids/orks/babies/whatever. It'd be so much truer, and probably a better game than this, which looks like a cash in on the awesome 40k IP.

I'll probably just get DoW 2 for my 40k fix.

"Cinemaction" is one of the stupidest words I have ever heard.

If you are going to have cinematic moments like that in the game, please take note from Assassin's Creed, because I think they did a pretty good job of making it seamless. Right now in the build, its just a broken mess

Good Graphics...

But GOD I hate 3rd person shooters... freakin hate them with a passion...

Someone buy that marine a flashlight for god's sake. I'm sure it will be much cheaper using his muzzle flash all the time.

Sounds cool in theory...I hope the scenes become more chaotic akin to the RTS. I also REALLY REALLY hope those are not the final camera angles for their "cinematics" -- they look like they could be much cooler from different angles. Not the same one over and over.

The game looks great, but if that's the direction going to do for gameplay I'm going to have to cry myself asleep again for another lost WH2k game.

I'd rather just play Gears of War(2) dressed up in my semi-erotic chaos cultist costume drinking tomato juice and get the best of both worlds then.

Someone needs to remind these games devs that's it's alright to have an original ideal every now and then.

Looks like Ninja Gaiden more than Gears.

The part that made it feel 'off' to me is all the pauses. He'd be fighting and then just stop, turn around, look for someone else, and then finally run off to go after them. It really made it feel like the enemies weren't worth anything. Like he was WAY overpowered for the level he was on.

Could have been he was in God-mode for the demo I guess. Plus balancing would happen later.

Also, the 'cinemaction' moments could get old really fast. I wonder if everything else is paused during those.

Eh, I always thought a game like this would be awesome, but this was surprisingly boring. Maybe it's because he was just running down hallways and not in like, a warzone with nothing but chaos all around him, just "run, chop up, run." - I'd like a Warhammer shooter but a "hack n'slash" just sounds odd.

Warhammer by far has a much better and in depth universe then any other fantasy game out there. Unfortunately, the designers have not been good at putting that story into the game. I think the problem is that people tend to like the "happy" universes like Warcraft where good always wins, and evil is always plotting a new challenge. Warhammer is doomed from the start and Chaos will soon destroy everything, and I don't know if people are able to connect to it as well. The Dawn of War series has done probably the best job out of all the Warhammer games when it comes to story and gameplay.

Reading some of the other posts though, I agree, that the "Cinemaction" is just "bleh" at the moment. I believe Prince of Persia (the new one) has a fantastic way of showing the combat action. It doesn't really take the players perspective away, but just gets us closer to the battle by slightly changing angles, which gives us a "Cinemaction" like view. It's like you are still in control, but get an action shot.

I have to admit... the "Overkill" part of the video was just amazing. I like the idea of a mini-game where you can beat the crap out of someone. That looked amazing. If you didn't make it to that part, I suggest getting jumping forward to 8:15 into the video.

everytime i find this video , its been removed by THQ the next day.

wonder how long this one will stay up ^.^

Looks and feels really good considering its in an early phase of development.

does anyone feel that the cine-maction moments are far too plentiful to contribute to the flow of combat?

don't get me wrong, they're well done. but they seem to interrupt combat way too frequently. of course, playing the game and watching a video are two completely different things.

I think I just experienced my first nerd-gasm.

wow, that whole first minute was really nice. take note developers, that's how you make a start screen.

I find this looks very similar to Gears Of War. The colouring, and the person you play, because of that suit. Then the chainsaw, and the finishing.
I don't say that as a Fanboy, I didn't quite like GOW, the camera movements made my stomach sick.

Anyway, I find that the person who plays this does not do a good job on demonstrating what is meant to be a dynamic fast paced game. It looks like he plays this the first time.

Looks cool visually, but are the camera cuts on the cinemaction really needed? Not to mention when they fucking cut, it doesn’t seem to follow the rules of which direction the shot or subject was leading and all that… ends up disorienting, would be better if it was a fast-panning/zoom type thing that exaggerated and mimicked the movement of your combo leading into the finishing move. duh.
Combat looks clunky. You know what would help it, if it was based on full contact stuff, like football players, where you can plow into enemies as part of the combo, right now it looks like enemies in big pieces of armor that are too afraid to do anything/make contact. And they are rollerskating.

Do you have some news on it? There's a lot of confusion floating around and it'd be nice to clear that up. Comments make it sound like the game has not actually been approved yet. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17845414#itemanchor_17845414

Those environments look amazing

i would have been more interested if 40k became an mmo and not the fantasy end. fantasy rpgs are turning into WW2 games.. the amount of them anyways

They need to treat the bolter with a little more respect, I think. A hybrid third-person-shooter and brawler with a focus on close-quarters combat would be best for this, I think. You are also gonna' need a squad of AI Space Marines in there with you.

those guys really like coining lame new phrases for shit that's been around for a long time

why the EFF do so many games insist on taking the camera view away from the player?

cinemACTION? more like "run, shoot, wait for stupid animation sequence which will get boring after the 3rd time"

damn just leave the camera alone & lrn2design

I don't know. i'm so use to WH40K being a strategy game its hard to look at it from an action point of view.