Creative: Asus Misleading Customers on EAX Drivers

Thread Truncated. Click to see all 33 replies.

• toggle

  You can't hear the difference between onboard and dedicated hardware? I do admit however my need of de... : ZaldronGG
  • toggle

    Not a typical desktop setup. Maybe with 5.1 or something, but 2 speakers and a sub, I can't tell, which i... : K1Bond007
    • toggle

      Failure rate/problems with onboard sound are quite common. : Toth21
      • toggle

        Yeah the onboard sound on the computer I built for my parents died about 2 weeks after I put it together.... : ErikTehRed
        • toggle

          what brand of motherboards are you guys buying : dantastic
          • I stick with Biostar and ASUS almost exclusively. : Ride-My-Rocket
    • toggle

      I've had the pops and crackles and other various issues with integrated sound, and I've none of that with... : carbontree
      • The only thing I've changed is that I added a 360 to my audio in port. I mean it's off, but would that st... : K1Bond007
    • I use headphones 90% of the time and you can definitely hear differences between regular onboard and a de... : silverback1138
  • Actually Realtek's on board HD set-up sounds pretty good. Its their low end AC-97 that kinda blows. : cell9song
• I assume you mean the killer nic, which is actually pretty neat as it essentially runs a linux variant on... : tecow
• Haha I cannot undestand your post - are you saying that you think sound cards are useless lol? :D : kahuuna
• toggle

  Onboard sound cards don't have Dolby Digital Live, which means you can't hook up your computer to a surro... : OverloadUT
  • toggle

    Not true. My onboard sound has the DTS equivalent of DDLive and outputs realtime surround to my amp via a... : nudel
    • That would be DTS Connect and you are lucky. I've never seen a mobo that has that on board. :( : OverloadUT
    • toggle

      what motherboard do you have? : deject
      • I dunno about nudel, but I've had that feature as well on my Asus Striker Extreme. Sadly, I've had issu... : JuffoWup
  • very few dedicated sound cards do that either. : ttyRazor
  • i'm not sure what the diff is between Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Live but i just use onboard SPDIF t... : flasher 907
• I have Auzentech X-Fi Prelude 7.1 and never had any problems in games. It sounds so much better than onbo... : qwplayer
• toggle

  I bought my X-Fi Fatal1ty a few years ago now to replace my piece of shit Sound Blaster Live! Value. THAT... : GrimmyD
  • yah my X-Fi has been great and runs perfectly on Vista... if you do a Custom install for the drivers an... : Shadowdane
• my asus onboard HD sound didnt lag games like my old motherboard did (which is why i bought an audigy 2 Z... : dantastic
• I can definitely tell the difference using headphones between on board and X-fi soundcard - pretty stupid... : malus72
• Um what? I happen to like having full 5.1 support plus EAX effects thanks. If you only have two speakers ... : avatar_58
• You Sir, ARE DEAF......! : vikramwillrock
• I can't believe you still think your onboard sound puts out anything worth listening to. : painangel
• it's a little gimmicky and you could prolly tweak it in the eq, but the x-fi's crystallizer is pretty fuc... : vassili_zaitsev
• toggle

  When using good speakers or headphones the difference is huge, for music or games. With most onboard soun... : Speedy8
  • ya i get the buzz all the time. all it takes is scrolling a firefox window and i can hear a buzz through ... : flasher 907
• The only onboard sound that I liked was the Nvidia Soundstorm that came on one of my ASUS boards. : guido anchovy
• Wow, you are so damn wrong it's not even funny. Most on board sound is still shite. Even the HD stuff. It... : Fred Garvin

Thread Truncated. Click to see all 11 replies.

• Some form of X-Fi or another. : Legolas5
• crap :\ : dantastic
• Take it out. I had an audigy and you are better off with onboard. In fact unless you own a Xonar or an X-... : avatar_58
• same problems as you. every time i install a new game, i have to juggle all that stuff. Once I get it fix... : AroundTheFur1380
• toggle

  i'm using an x-fi and haven't had any problems with Vista... : .frame
  • I have one too. works great aside from the fubared SPDIF input. : ttyRazor
• toggle

  NO FUCKING NO. do not buy creative unless you must. Spend the money and buy an Auzentech. Creative mak... : sheepraper
  • toggle

    Whatever. Their cards are just fine. : Fred Garvin
    • Yea? Where is my coax or optical? Why do I have to choose between 30 different items to install. I coul... : sheepraper
• http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-fi_prelude.php : deject

Thread Truncated. Click to see all 5 replies.

• toggle

  This is actually not a bad analogy - if ASUS can 'home-brew' their own EAX 5 support, then Creative can r : mn3m0n1c
  • toggle

    $80? Can you show me a link for this cheaper model? : Decepticon Matrix
    • Maybe this? http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=10219 : shassard
  • The problem is that there is no other card based effects API out there. It's all software driven either b... : Fred Garvin

Thread Truncated. Click to see all 4 replies.

• Exactly, despite EAX being crap, fuck ASUS. Only having trouble with their laptops. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• You have environment effects turned on. You should probably turn those off. It's in the EAX settings. : tKillbox
• That's because you are most likely playing on a system that is "EAX compatible" where they have to fall b... : Fred Garvin

Thread Truncated. Click to see all 3 replies.

• toggle

  IMO, they've always made excellent hardware which, when working, sounds very good. Their problem has alwa... : Entity
  • I have more of a problem with their general attitude. They've left many interesting comments in their Ope... : avatar_58

Thread Truncated. Click to see all 3 replies.

• shit, still? i am using a 2 ZS :( : dantastic
• you can pirate the update though, i did. : AroundTheFur1380

Thread Truncated. Click to see all 15 replies.

• toggle

  EAX 5 might be proprietary or something, maybe something that ASUS can't actually implement without getti... : famine101
  • toggle

    ASUS may not be able to advertise having EAX5 support (though that gets murky - it may be able to claim e... : cannelbrae
    • toggle

      EAX 5 is proprietary to creative. : paravis
      • toggle

        Sure, but if someone creates a white box implementation, I don't know if they can object. Said party coul... : cannelbrae
        • toggle

          it'll turn into a licensing issue. Asus will be forced to withdraw it's support or pay creative a licensi... : Fyunch Click
          • toggle

            Not necessarily. If ASUS handled their reverse engineering properly, and the internals of Creative's tec... : Arcanum
            • Yeah, it'd be sort of like Intel vs. AMD for example. : mn3m0n1c
• toggle

  I would like to second this. Fuck Creative. Fuck Creative up its stupid ass. I wish Creative would j... : Strabo
  • toggle

    i would put money on a double blind test comparing Bioshock on and X-Fi Elite Pro to one of these w/ the ... : jodiuh
    • playing thief 2 with an a3d2 sound card and 4 speakers is the best sound experience I can remember in any... : tecow
  • toggle

    Seriously, the video card industry has over the last decade made a gargantuan leap of both paradigm (it i... : ZaldronGG
    • toggle

      I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Great post. This is exactly what is wrong with Creative. : Strabo
      • Good grief, that's like AV pron! :D Agreed. I look forward to a GPU that has new features and 2x the s... : jodiuh
    • Amen to that. Even the latest games seem to have fixed sound schemes per room. I was playing R6:V2 and th... : nudel

Thread Truncated. Click to see all 3 replies.

• this is rock and roll! : grimiv
• That guy is metal. : d fluke

Thread Truncated. Click to see all 4 replies.

• toggle

  fuck creative. I am personally holding onto my Audigy 2 Pro ZS out of sheer spite, despite constant drive... : AroundTheFur1380
  • toggle

    I have the same card in my Vista machine but the rest of the hardware is new. The only games I have iss... : silverback1138
    • yah I've been more than happy with my X-Fi purchase. I may jump to a different audio card at some point... : Shadowdane

Thread Truncated. Click to see all 6 replies.

• Asus is telling the games that support EAX 5, to output EAX 5. Nowheres does it say that the Asus cards ... : Wombat Woo
• toggle

  "Creative may have shitty drivers but at least I get 100% functionality." Wait? What? The whole point ... : ryuuseki
  • Wait what? The x-fi drivers are 100% functional. Have been for in xp and vista since around 3 months af... : paravis
  • What are you talking about? I get 5.1 + EAX in Vista. Thats what I wanted when I was searching for a card... : avatar_58
• Your last sentence is flat-out hilarity. Thanks. : Conan

Thread Truncated. Click to see all 4 replies.

• toggle

  this post makes no sense. : paravis
  • toggle

    read me a book. : Legolas5
    • I meant to say: Learn me a book. I guess I fail at feigning dumb-ness. : Legolas5