Evening Reading

by Steve Gibson, Sep 10, 2007 6:00pm PDT

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Yes yes.. I've missed you guys too. I'm looking forward to giving Quake Wars another shot when I get back home in a few days. Of course I've still got to play through BioShock and finish Prime 3... hmmm. Things could be worse!

The latest battery nonsense for cars
Got gamer regret?
Viking queen
Rocketplane issues :(
Mobile phones are 20

Lastly, I checked out the NBA Live 08 demo that hit XBLM the other day and by some kind of miracle it seems those guys finally unsucked the game. 06 was just unfinished and 07 made me want to cut myself with how sloppy it was. I now look forward to kicking Maarten's ass on the internets with NBA Live 08. I sure hope season mode stuff is good.

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You know what really irks me about FPS games...

A character that doesn't talk. I really really don't get that. It screws up the experience for me. I think a) if you're going to put your character into a big story where there is a lot of supposed conversing with other characters, create conversation options to respond or b) just make them say SOMETHING or imply that your character is a mute. Or c) make a doom(not doom 3) like game where their are no other conversing characters and you're all alone.

A good example for me, is Half-Life, which I still love. But every time someone says something to me, it feels dumb that nothing is said back... Am I alone on this?

Imagine in the future (possibly) some game creator creates a tech where you can speak into a mic to respond, and get a somewhat natural response form the npc (with limitations of course). But in the meantime, GIVE MY GUY A VOICE.

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Sep 11, 2007 6:35pm PDT

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You know what really irks me about FPS games... A character that doesn't talk. I really really don'... : paravis
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  man thats a pretty cool idea. you can yell shit like FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER and then some guy is like WHA... : kill9
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    see that would be cool! Real reactions to your OWN reactions! Obviously... we're aways away from that a... : paravis
    - well, the old text-parser adventure games had some limited reactions to text : RikiTiki2
    - someone did something like this recently. some sort of "real life" simulator where you were in some coup... : kill9
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  You're not alone in this criticism of Half-Life, I've seen others here with the same complaint, and it's : action wombmate
  - I think it works for Half-Life also because there was very little dialog that you would even respond to b... : Chod
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    I don't like it. Maybe if Gordon had been nameless I could get into that, but everyone already knows him. Characters talk to him, mention his history and he/you never make any choices.
    
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    I don't like it. Maybe if Gordon had been nameless I could get into that, but everyone already knows him.... : Havoc1c4
    - This. This is one of my many problems with Half-Life 2. : Modica Sol Solis
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      A player can easily "pretend" he/she is "Gordon Freeman" for the duration of the game. When your charact... : YamatoTwinkie
      
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      How can you pretend to be Freeman? You know absolutely nothing about him except that he's a scientist, hi... : Modica Sol Solis
      
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      exactly. He's an open book. When I play HL2, i feel I *AM* Gordon Freeman. If I had to hear him talk, ... : YamatoTwinkie
      
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      I guess I just can't adopt the mindset of a completely non-dimensional character. I have no way to relate... : Modica Sol Solis
      
      Maybe you're meant to feel like an outsider? If games keep spoonfeeding B-movie stories to players, th... : johngloid
      
      When Duke shot, it was me shooting. When Duke laid a tripmine, it was me laying a tripmine. When Duke ... : pharoah mike
  - Agreed. What irked me was that in bioshock, your character said that little blurb in the beginning and sh... : Unleashed
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    see imo that doesn't work at all. Given the fact that HL isn't some fantastic amazing story, I don't hav... : paravis
    - This begs the creation of an MST3K esque commentary track for the HL series. : hatelull
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      Why hasn't there been a good first person adventure or first person action game that actually has a chara... : Modica Sol Solis
      
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      imagine that... that would be pretty awesome. Like Ender's Game as a game, full story, full dialoge etc.... : paravis
      
      Right. Sort of like Mass Effect, but in a first-person atmosphere. I would love to see some kind of film ... : Modica Sol Solis
      
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      Aside from the plague of bugs and some poor design decisions, The Darkness did a pretty good job with the... : dedgecko
      
      I never had the chance to play The Darkness, but I heard wonderful things. : Modica Sol Solis
- I'm 50/50 on this. On one hand, I completely agree with you, it's just weird to when your character d : InfoBiter
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  I think Freeman redeems himself only because Valve themselves poke fun at the fact that he's voiceless in : hatelull
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  You know what really irks me, when they make my character talk - I like him being silent - because I'm sa... : abrasion
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    which carry no weight, no effect, NOTHING into the game. It seems like a cheap attempt at trying to forc... : paravis
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      The point is that it carries no weight and has no effect. You're not supposed to react with "your" voice... : johngloid
      
      your actions and "experiences"? Your actions have the same effect in game whether you reacted emotionally... : paravis
    - You may find it like that, I personally find it more immersive - different strokes for different folks. ... : abrasion
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    what if you can choose what to say ala deus ex? : pyide
    - Actually I was just making a point, I mean there's a case for - I like Duke's 1 liners and Blade's (Sin) ... : abrasion
- IIRC Manhunt had something along those lines. No real speech recognition but yeah. : TastyWheat
- Why should I talk if I have nothing to say? First person games are different than third person. It's : johngloid
- Yeah I'm the opposite. Maybe if dialog in game was of a higher standard I wouldn't mind it. But as it sta... : NastyJack
- I am totally, completely neutral on this issue. I don't care if the player character talks or not in an F... : Orange Pylon
- I feel the same way. : thejm4n

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