BioShock Demo Hits XBLM, PC Demo En Route; Updated: PC Demo News, Free Art Book

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• Damn, what lame ass fucking shit that is. I sure as hell aren't paying for a subscription for it. : Pneum0
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  I didn't see anything on Fileplanet saying it was a Fileplanet exclusive, I just took it as Fileplanet Su... : hoopfam4
  • Well if they get to pre-download it they get to play it first, seeing as fileplanet has no chance of hand... : Beady
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  Make sure to let 2K know how lame that is, though. Bitching here won't fix it. : Conan
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    nothing will fix it, it's done. : Pneum0
    • In the future, I meant. It's not like this is the only new game that will ever come out. : Conan

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  Yes, it does. Don't worry. :) : jason bergman
  • Good to hear! : Iazu
  • Thanks for the heads up, this was my slight concern as well! : Damodred

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• I also didn't know about the UE. I was just amazed at how fluid it was. The game just oozes greatness. ... : Tripps
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  I had no idea that the ghost elements from System Shock 2 would make a reprise in BioShock. Bloody fantas... : Killrig
  • Me either. I'm very happy that they do. : BlackCat9
  • That was really cool the moment I saw it. Also having a voice companion really reminds me of the SS2 days... : Fail_Safe
  • Yes, this pleases immensely. : Damodred
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  1) Ghosts! Holy shit! This is what scared the piss off me in the System Shock 2 demo when I wasn't expect : DOOManiac
  • It does seem like the RPGish elements are rather limited. Hard to be sure from just the demo, I guess, b... : dirge23

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• Thanks for the heads up! Downloading now! : marmite
• Should there be a spoiler alert in the update? I don't want to download it if it will ruin some of the m... : treefingers1
• It has spoilers :( : pulse2115
• Totally second'ed. It's a great move. All kind of art is created during a game development beside the act : pillzer

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  didn't seem like 30FPS to me. but i can't remember it being as smooth as 60 either. in any case, i wa... : pyide
  • alright, thanks for the info. looks like it's definitely pc version for me, considering my pc will run i... : mourningstar
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  Why is this a problem on a console? : rabbit003
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    Shouldn't the 360 be able to push it higher than that? : mourningstar
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      Dude, you need to try it first. Then, see if you want to moan about the fps. In some games like Madden,... : geneshifter
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        yeah cuz sux to play a FPS with a good control scheme... : thewindcriesmary
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          yeah cuz it sux to play a FPS on a PC that deserves 100x the immersion factor like an 40+ inch HDTV + Sur... : kainen1
          • I don't find that more immersive at all. I consider lounging in the living room a far more passive experi... : SpaecKow
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            I have a 42 inch plasma in my living room, and i can easilly say that pc gaming is alot more immersive. M... : thewindcriesmary
            • playing SS2 late at nite in the dark with headphones creeped the shit outta me : gyokuro
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        I wasn't "moaning about FPS", I was asking a question. I already know that the 360 version will be inferi... : mourningstar
        • You have to assume that different parts of the game will demand more of the console. 30FPS is probably th... : thewindcriesmary
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      Because on consoles for 30 you have to be running at 30-59 FPS and for 60 you need to be at 60+ all the t... : ease one
      • this is the stuff I was looking for. Thank you :) : mourningstar
    • are you kidding me? : VegasX
• I hope it is. I hate it when the fps is all over the place, if it is LOCKED at 30 i'll be very happy. : marmite
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  It looked like 60 FPS to me. Smooth as buttah : bagelcc
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    Forza's @ 60, right? It's nowhere near as pretty as this. And count me in as another that prefers either... : jodiuh
    • well, the Forza physics system runs at 360hz, that takes it's toll : OrkO
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  I think someone on the Shacknews podcast said that the PC version has the option to lock the FPS at 30, w... : BlackCat9
  • That was referring to the 360 version actually. As far as I know, the graphical settings for that 360 op... : Chris Remo
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    lol @ 30 being smooth : yedrin
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      TV and epecially movies must really suck for you. : Conan
      • film has motion blur that almost completely make up for it, games do not. : yedrin
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        Oh, not this fucking bullshit again... : GreatGooglyMoogly
        • Oh, I'm not trying to say that they're directly comparable, but a game that runs at an entirely fixed 30 ... : Conan
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  The only game I regularly play on 360 is pro evolution soccer when I go to friend's place. Even that game... : te[R]ror
  • the pro evo & winning eleven games have always had some stupid slowdown, no matter what the platform you ... : pyide
• Thanks for all the info everyone. :) In my opinion, my PC is a much more immersive experience for me. I... : mourningstar
• Not as much as AVP marine campaign, i still have nightmares over that :/ : thewindcriesmary

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  You must spend around $2K on a PC to play this smoothly, with everything turned up. : Jobos
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    Is this a serious post? I hope not. It doesn't cost anywhere near that much to build a PC that can max ... : mourningstar
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      I could do it for well under $1,000 - so I doubt it. : Conan
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        Yeah, I'm thinking around $700 would do it. : mourningstar
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          Bullshit to you both. LOL. Have you ever actually built a computer? 'Cause it doesn't sound like it. : Jobos
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            LOLOLOLOL. I have. I don't have to go out like a fucking retard and spend $1500 on an Alienware rig. I... : mourningstar
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              I'm so disappointed! :-( $1K is a shitty machine... I thought we were talking about NICE computers. : Jobos
              • Rubbish, 1k$ US can definately make a fairly good machine now. : abrasion
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            Now I know you're just a troll. I happened to have just built the computer I'm on right now. Here's the ... : Conan
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              And offcourse you also want to grab a Core2 Duo instead of the X2. :-) : [7]kami
              • At that price point, there's no reason to performance wise. As far as upgradability, well, you could defi... : Conan
    • The publisher for BioShock is 2K. Get it now? : Big Luke
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      no its just another leet console dude that doesnt know the price of PC hardware and how the xbox's hardwa... : gyokuro
      • heheh, is there such thing as a 'leet' console person? : Jobos
    • It's what I recommend. Why buy the bare minimum for THIS game? -- there are much more demanding games on... : Jobos
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  any C2D / 8600GT or better, 1gig ram : thewindcriesmary
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    Is that with the gaming running on high quality though? I've a 2.4 C2D, 2gig ram and an 8800gts but I'm s... : jbury
    • Your 8800GTS should be able to run the game at almost max settings (i assume). 8600GT would be about medi... : thewindcriesmary
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      the reccommended gfx card is an 8600 and you have an 8800gts your pc will run it like butter : allyjweir
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        hmmm ok awesome, only got the computer recently and still unsure of how powerful it is (runs HL2 perfectl... : jbury
        • Same here. : thejm4n
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          your 8800 gts is at least 2x more powerful than the xbox360's video card : gyokuro
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            wtf, it'd be nice if this is true but I don't see it. : Boxelder
            • here's a chart of some gpu's. Now its basically impossible to put in the 360 gpu but it is very close to ... : gyokuro
          • it's quite true, the 8800 is about twice as fast as anything last gen (i.e. X360s GPU). consoles are just... : yedrin
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      PC Gamer ran it on max setting with a worse proc and said it ran without a hitch. : Boxelder
      • can you give us more details on the machine they used to run it? like what kind of video card? im wonder... : ballystix
  • So this thing is going to eat shit on my 7800GT w/3800X2? We'll see what the demo entails and I'm sur... : Schnapple

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• Your Mom? For Christmas? : Jobos
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  Haven't been able to play since I don't have an xbox360, but the videos really remind me of Clive Barker'... : R-Magic
  • There's a trailer for a game called, "Jericho" on LIVE. It's another FPS w/ Clive's name attached... : jodiuh
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    Its totally system shock 2 now updated and in an underwater-city. Finally the "diaries" in bioshock ar... : chilln
    • The diaries reminded me of how half-assed and irrelevant they were in Doom3. Doom3 made me forget how SS... : dirge23
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      SS2 also had plenty of Audio logs, remember. : Conan
      • And those ghost sequences that totally freaked me out. : Tissen
• Wife played it last night and would also like to know who she has to fuck to get the rest of the game. : Str8Dog

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• I really hope there are some surprises, like super big daddy boss that is huge and breaks walls where wat... : .ka`boom.zZz.
• eh fuck it, i take it back, i guess it is impressive when i think about it in retrospect. there were a lo... : .ka`boom.zZz.

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  i just read that a few weeks ago, what does it have to do with this game? man there was some boring bits ... : nandu666
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    The game seems to be heavily based on some Ayn Rand's philosophy. The idea of a completely individualist... : TabsAZ
    • Also, Andrew Ryan. : -efx-
• I'm away on work next week and won't be able to play the game so I bought this book last night to pump me... : astonish

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• I second that. I'm one to usually skip the story parts of games cause they are so flat or regurgitating p... : astonish
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  I dunno, I'm a complete pussy about scary games, and this one didn't scare me once. It's a good demo and ... : jet-poop
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    haha, I loved SS2 for that reason alone... first time a zombie screamed as it came up from behind me s... : dedgecko
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      I couldn't even finish the game. I'd get so stressed playing it that I'd have to quit. Only game ever to ... : jet-poop
      • I've never cared for the SS2 Rebirth mod. The artist strayed too far from the original intent. : Conan
  • i don't know what it was, but i definitely had a few heart-pounding moments. it wasn't a cheap "jump out... : Korban
• I disagree. In DOOM3 I didn't even want to enter the first elevator for fear of being trapped inside or ... : Pneum0
• I was afraid to get out of the bathysphere. Thus it was awesome when Atlas said "..take a deep breath an... : dirge23

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• On the PC or the Box? : Jobos

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• "Is that a fake radio name, like Andy or ... Bobo?" : Damodred
• at least his didn't announce this poor schmuck's real name next to her shacker name, because THAT would s... : dahanese
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  I hate using shack names at shackmeets. : rudds
  • Same here. : Chris Faylor
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  Who decided? : Chris Remo
  • duh, George Bush is the decider. : edgewise
• NO! : Jonathan
• You need the list the real name to make the article credible. I don't think you need to identify that pe... : TheArtMan
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  But its a great name! Phonnnnne hommmmmme! : thaperfectdrug
  • oh man you just brought back my childhood HORRORS : dahanese
• My name is Jay M. Schmitt. :-P : Jobos

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• Thanks for the heads up... and excellent free bonus. Is it possible to give Irrational more money? :) : NoCopy

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• Yeah, anything you find on TTLG from a named source is likely to be legit. Irrational and Looking Glass g... : Conan

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  BTW, this is exactly the best type of story/setup for a game. You get dropped into a completely unknown,... : Masem
  • I did the same thing played only 15 min before I had to leave for work. Atmosphere is well done, subtitli... : brushbaron
  • I agree on the setup. It reminded me of the original Half Life in the way the whole setup is presented i... : afty

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  that sends such an encouraging message to developers. what can the developer feel, but this? "ok, next ti... : yAak
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    Which is the way more and more development is going. : Tripps
    • So buy for PC instead of 360, get a better control scheme and make your vote for the PC platform. : Pneum0
  • well since the xbox360 is so closely related to a WindowsXP box in terms of API(directX) and hardware, it... : gyokuro
• lol... Everyone knows they were going to pirate it anyway. : walker270

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  we're not worthy : askedrelic
  • hey, we did ballet to get her a QCon shirt. we're plenty worthy : Korban
• i love you, Dahotass! : Korban
• no thanks : Degenerate
• Pfft. Get me the PC demo and we can talk about overlordship. : Arcanum
• Fire no workie! : Beady
• You aren't my overlord, I can't even get the damn thing to download past 17%! BLAH! : .sticks.
• /hail now hire me! ^_^ : Jiven
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  meh. gimme the pc demo. i'm still not really hot for this game... : SlamDunk
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    that's because you're dead inside. : Korban
    • nope : SlamDunk

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• I dont imagine they would be much different honestly : VegasX
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  Based on the demo, whichever you have surround sound on : Judecca
  • Agreed. The game was liquid smooth on the 360 so I can't imagine it being any different on a PC. : Tripps
• It's pretty cool. They did a great job with the 360's interface controls, and it shouldn't be too annoyi... : Boxelder

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  new gf already or did you work things out? : marmite
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    worked things out :) : jbury
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      Are you sure? I mean there's still this console vs pc conflict :D : astrofunk
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        She just can't use mouse/keyboard that well - even playing WoW she uses the keys to move mainly. I lo... : jbury
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          Dude, Buy her a game pad for the PC - problem solved : flagg209
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            Or, you know, use the 360 gamepad? : SilverSnake
            • Surprisingly - I totally didn't think about this... am going to drop £15 on one of those crossfir... : jbury
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  Why do you have to buy the other game? Doesn't she have a job?? : majinpsyduck
  • We share a "pooled resource" for money. So it's a bit of both, but still feels like a waste getting 2 cop... : jbury
• buy the PC version and rent the 360 version : Magus
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  you could just buy the pc version and plug your x360 controller into the pc : allyjweir
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    ^ this is probably best/most intelligent response. but that requires that you have the wired 360 contr... : chilln
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      He could use the play n charge with his wireless controller could he not? : Mitchell Gant
      • No, that doesn't send the signals. He'd need the wireless controller receiver. http://www.xbox.com/en-U... : Carnivac
• hey, you've got a girl that games with you. that's lucky enough. : edgewise

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    Crashes? Really... I played through it twice and didn't crash once or experience any technical issues. O... : manlyman
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      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=14918537#itemanchor_14918537 looks like it may be avoidable : dantastic
      • all in all, go rent it. It's a fairly fast game to run through (less than 8 hours). Just hope that your... : dedgecko
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      go read the 360 forums... I and a lot of others had a shitload of crashes. Medman couldn't play the ga... : dedgecko
      • yeah, that sounds like his hardware was screwed up. It might have been overheating. : jason bergman
  • I didn't have a single crash or bug the whole way through. I was impressed at the level of polish actuall... : marmite
  • No issues here either, excellent game. : Tripps

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  I was pleasantly surprised by how good it was. I was expecting the combat to be less than stellar, and ... : kingdepork
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    What are the sound / music / water effects like? they look and sound very impressive by what I've seen : niceguynick
    • Everything is top notch. Even though i saw videos, the water still wowed me at points. The enemies have... : kingdepork
• it's downloading pretty slow for me :/ : tcxsnoop
• The BioShock demo is everything I had hoped it to be. Without a doubt, it truly is a spiritual successor ... : Killrig
• After playing through the demo twice, I can say that this game is astonishing in its absolute perfection.... : lookitzpancakes
• I've never been so blown away by a demo. Great atmosphere, great sound, great visuals, the gameplay feels... : re4ctor
• Yeah I just started playing. My demo was slow and stalled all night. So I went to bed, slept in, and t... : chilln

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• You didn't notice any unusually high number of instances of derivatives of the word "announcement" prior ... : Chris Remo
• Yes? : [7]kami
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  Is this serious or a joke? Is that serious or a joke? : mrwolf710
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    Are you serious? : deadhorse
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      Surely you jest? : deathofrats
      • I jest not, and don't call me Shirley. : dedgecko
• I don't think they'd joke about something like that : headbone
• Announcements, serious business : zehh
• I would like to announce my intention to ignore any further announcements regarding the coverage of BioSh... : walker270

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  I would think you can get achievements on the Games for Windows Version too - am i rite? : bagelcc
  • Nope. It's doing the "games for windows" stuff, but because there is no multiplayer they won't be doing ... : astonish
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  I would say get the pc version, at least with the pc version the game will look a bit better over time a... : Rageanitus
  • Ya, the ability to do anti-aliasing seems to be the winning thing for the PC version, I'm sure a co-worke... : astonish
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    pretty much every game i've bought for the 360 in the last months has supported 1080p as far as i can rem... : dewdman
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      99% of all 360 games are 720p. You can change the output to 480i/p, 1080i/p if you like, but all the rend... : astonish
      • There are a couple other 1080p games -- Virtua Tennis 3 and NBA Street Homecourt, off the top of my head. : afty
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        interesting. i had a feeling that was the case, but wasn't positive. in any case, i think i'll prefer pla... : dewdman
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          But does screen size really matter in this instance? Screen size is only relative to the distance at whic... : ripper9
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            true, but the couch is so much comfier for my fat ass :( : dewdman
            • Exactly why I preferred Oblvion on the 360. Screw the mods if my ass hurts. : jodiuh
        • Ya, I feel the same. I'll probably end up playing both by either borrowing the PC version from a friend o... : astonish
  • I'm buying both.... :( I have to! CE for the PC and standard 360 for the Achievements. I played System Sh... : Killrig
• correct me if im wrong, but isn't it true that the pc version supports DX10? : X-GOUKI
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  You have a top of the line system, why would you pay $10 more for the console version? : ripper9
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    One word: Big motherfucking SCREEN. : lookitzpancakes
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      He also already said why in his post "Damn you achievement points! Damn you!!!" : marmite
      • bingo! : astonish
    • ...that works just fine @ 1920x1080p w/ 4xAA, no? : jodiuh
  • Couch + 50" Screen + way-too-expensive sound system + raiding in WoW while playing (not like I need to pa... : walker270
• I'm gonna attempt to play it on a 3.0 GHz P4C w/256MB 7800GS....wish me luck! : Frank_Mackey
• The graphics reminded me of how Gears of War were done. They used high res textures/mapping on high visib : cell9song

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• I got your HARD for ya, right here. : coyoterys

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  agreed. People make fun of me because I say so many games are not "polished". This is a prime example o... : bagelcc
  • hear hear : allyjweir

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  should be good for figuring out which control scheme is preferable : ttyRazor
  • like anyone wonders : yedrin
• Craddock, do you even like the 360?? I listened to your podcast : snowwolf

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• ha, mine still lives! but it still shows everything in a green hue (since the May dashboard upgrade) s... : yuried
• same here... and I was looking forward to this and the cod 4 beta : sjpeters79