Game Politics: Congress, Talk to Rockstar, Take-Two
by Chris Remo, Jun 19, 2006 10:15am PDTDennis McCauley's Game Politics has been by far the most complete and well-reseached source for coverage of the ever increasing collisions between the video game industry and the worlds of politics and law. This weekend, McCauley published an editorial claiming that Washington, with its recent congressional hearing about games and previous senate hearing, has been barking up the wrong tree by questioning people like the Entertainment Software Association's Doug Lowenstein and the ESRB's Patricia Vance. Rather, he argues, Capitol Hill should be demaning answers from executives at Take-Two and Rockstar, the companies involved with last year's Hot Coffee incident that put a renewed focus on legislating games. As a means to pin down specific responsibility for the events, he has come up with a few questions to start off:
-who conceived the Hot Coffee idea? -who created the animations? -who eventually decided to nix it from the final version? -why it wasn't removed from the disc entirely? -did insiders realize the active and highly-skilled GTA mod community would find the sex animations? -why did Rockstar and Take-Two lie about Hot Coffee when it was revealed? -why did they try to blame the mess on their biggest fans, the GTA mod community?McCauley notes that many game-related bills currently being written, debated, or passed have had the momentum to continue only because of the lingering Hot Coffee uproar. "In California, for example, Leland Yee's video game bill was, by his own admission, dead in the water in June of 2005," he writes. "Hot Coffee burst onto the scene in July. By October, Yee's bill had been passed and signed into law. It now awaits a ruling from a federal judge on its constitutionality." Noted designer Warren Spector had some critical words for Rockstar last year, McCauley notes, despite his admiration and respect for the ambitious game designs the company has pioneered. The driving point of the Game Politics editorial seems to be that, as would be the case with a particularly controversial book or movie, the issues regarding controversial games should be limited to those particular games rather than forcing the industry as a whole to defend itself in broad strokes.
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10-15 year olds for the most part.
Violent M-rated video games? They play those.
Sex in movies and from the internet? They all view it.
Credit cards? Some spend $300 a month.
Bedtime? Most stay up till 2am on school nights.
It's a very different generation. The people to blame for this?
The parents.
Yes, my cousins and younger aunts and uncles have ABSOLUTELY no parenting skills. They are all enjoying their lives so much that they neglect their kids. To abide this guilt, they buy them anything they want. They let them do what they want. Those parents just don't care. It makes me sick when I visit with those cousins. I had a 10 year old telling me about all the people he killed in GTA SA and how he bought a PSP and didnt like it so he destroyed the screen. No fucking respect for anything. With kids like this, I have little hope for our future. You shackers with kids better try your hardest to stave off the effect from my generation of family members.
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I'm sorry, but does anyone even give a fuck?
So what the 8 year olds will see some polygons thrusting into each other, if they don't see it then they'll only see it a few years later.
This attitude has to change in America, because its beyond a joke. Its not bad parenting, its a bad mindset that seems to be entrenched within the minds of a lot of people.
Sex is NOT bad.
Violence IS bad.
From this page, http://www.vote-smart.org/index.htm , you can look up who all your elected officials are, go to their home page, and email them.
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Put all that energy some where else for god's sakes.
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Do they even realize how stupid they sound when talking about the hot coffee mod?
All of this is just so...retarded.
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Do you think it's all caused by religion? Don't tell me that those politicians are atheists.
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Seriously, none of these politicians have even seen the mod in action, much less actually played GTA enough to realize that it's satire. There's no nudity or depiction of genitilia in Hot Coffee, much less than you'd see in a standard R rated movie. The nude skins that are available are fan created.
It's sad to see gamers/the gaming industry taking it up the ass from such uninformed bigots.
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It's as if someone built a skyscraper and put a box of porn magazines in the foundation. You can't get at them without digging really deep and it's not going to affect almost everybody.
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Sometimes I get a giant cock on my screen for no apparent reason while trying to search for something. Other times I see shit so messed up (thanks Japan) that I feel like vomiting.
Looking for porn? haha
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-who conceived the Hot Coffee idea?
It was part of the core game idea. Something that got spurted out in a brainstorming idea. The specific team member who suggested it is irrelevent.
-who created the animations?
DUH. The animators. Who cares? It is irrelevent. It's not some animators fault at Rockstar for doing his job.
-who eventually decided to nix it from the final version?
Ok, now we're getting somewhere. But the answer is still pretty obvious. The management team, when they realized it would give them an "AO" rating.
-why it wasn't removed from the disc entirely?
To save time. It was probably a last minute decision. It's probably easier to disable it via some code rerouting.
-did insiders realize the active and highly-skilled GTA mod community would find the sex animations?
Ok, here is the operant question!
-why did Rockstar and Take-Two lie about Hot Coffee when it was revealed?
To cover their ass. But good question. They should be accountable for obviously lying about this. Their first statements were basically to the affect that none of the content was there, but pretty silly when a small binary patch (a few kilobytes?) contains a ton of art, animation, and game logic.
-why did they try to blame the mess on their biggest fans, the GTA mod community?
Because they're lame.
This whole thing is still retarded. One of the most violent games ever, a game that allows you to turn into a murdering nutcase and do all sorts of wrong, gets an "M" rating. Then they throw in some sex (no worse than a Leisure Suit Larry game) and its a big deal. I love repressed American sexuality... Shooting people ok! Sex is a no-no!
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