ATI Releases The X1900

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• Yea this summarizes my feelings very well... thank you for that... Its just insanity... : Q-ball
• console ftw! : slacko
• Maybe their PC development is a means to an end.... In the way that they develop PC hardware between cons... : LucyLuBot
• you may have a point, but I don't really care. ET:QW is all I really want. I don't own nor want a cons... : cucumber1972
• u are wrong pc's have always been "expensive" ppl will still buy a pc for gaming This argument has alw... : Rageaholic
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  Industry is far from dying. It should be noted that all those sales figures posted around the net do not... : mblissp
  • http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24145969 : mblissp
  • No, it's not counting downloads (e.g. Direct 2 Drive) and MMO subscriptions. It's counting 'online sales'... : K1Bond007
  • It definitely isn't counting "casual" online game sales either. That market is disgustingly huge. : d3tached
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  I think what you misunderstand is these cards are not a requirenment to game in the high end. the 6800 li... : italiano3d
  • to have a rig that performs extremly well for 3-5 years. lol yeah right. GPU releases, game releases,... : jrock
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    Stictly speaking from a business stand point, ATI and Nvidia want you to buy their cards. This is a fact.... : K1Bond007
    • I would have to ask, by who standards are a card outdated. If its the random troll in here saying that ... : mblissp
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      I'm not sure I understand your point. If there isn't a necessity to upgrade in your opinion, then the cur... : thesubtlesnake
      • *competitive : thesubtlesnake
• Furthermore computer parts have been fluctuating yet in the end the general price for a computer as a who... : Rageaholic
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  TV sales also dropped drastically decades ago. It's called market saturation. People now buy TVs to rep... : royaljester
  • i.e. people have been saying television has been dying for decades too. They're wrong. It's just changi... : royaljester
• Majority of sales for Ati and nvidia do not come from their highest end hardware. Those are catered to th... : d3tached
• What's new here? They're not coming out faster, and the top-end newest hardware has always been expensive : tigeN
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  360s aren't "much cheaper" than $650. : Kerath
  • ?? 400 vs 650? 300 vs 650? Are you kidding me. The latter one is less than half the cost. : K1Bond007

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  x1900 comes after x1800 :) What's so difficult? I'm not saying I like it, however. : mystifier
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    i think he's reffering to all the X's and T's : captain hampton
    • The next board is the XX900 XTXXX : binaryc
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  you have X####X/PRO/L/T/X First 'X' - exxxtreme to the max ##### - proportional to the price trailin... : BigT
  • +inf : flox
  • lollerskates : cucumber1972
  • Thank you, this is what I was looking for! : feek

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  nörd :) : BigT
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    that's SuperNörd to you, kind sir :) : MrLonghair
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      just det :) när är det dags ? och vilket bolag/kanal är det som håller i det ... : BigT
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        Mastiff under Zodiak, visas på Kanal 5 med start vecka 15, jag lämnar stan denna Sön... : MrLonghair
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          låter som en kul grej, men se upp med deras hardcore vinkling... de har nog redan bestämt h... : BigT
          • Va? Vad ska du vara med i? *nyfiken* : ted1001
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  jævle svenskere :P Heh nah, seriously - good to see some scandivian people here :) : humbleone
  • scandinavian even* : humbleone

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• Its either right on or beats nvidias 7800gtx512 mb which costs $150 more. Id say its a good deal. : deeveee

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  OpenGL support doesn't suck ass, it just isn't as good as Nvidia, however it will still run everything fi... : tbreffni
  • haha nice. Yes they were available before ati even launched it actually. Id say thats pretty damn good. : deeveee

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• ^^ I approve this common sense post : SlamDunk
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  yes, and it should make me breakfast. : cucumber1972
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    no it should just be reasonably priced yet do its job - allow gamers to play the latest games well. that'... : jrock
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      you're paying a lot more than three or four hundred for the console. Every game you buy is, in part, also... : Judicator.Khas
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        What difference does it make to the consumer how much of a game sale goes to fund the console itself? : Chris Remo
        • If it costs X amount of bucks to develop and manufacture a new "state of the art" GPU chip and card, the ... : Judicator.Khas
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  I got an X800XL for $200 at CompUSA in November and it runs everything just fine (FEAR, COD2, Q4). : ann thracks
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    who makes this chipset? : p4ck3tloss
    • You mean the actual card + PCB. all chipsets are ATI, dummy! : mystifier

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• Yup, as much as i want to ditch my 6800 GT for a 7900 when they are out. It is wise to wait on the DX10 ... : james t kirk
• I bought my 800XTPE in June of '04. Still runs everything pretty much awesomely (ok F.E.A.R makes it cry... : johnny rotten
• This is what I'll do. Sure I'd love to have a few extra FPS in BF2, but for this price? Not just the ATI,... : mystifier
• I've got an X800 Pro sitting here with no PC to go with it :( : TwiLyght

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  I would say you're not going to be able to get away with a 9800pro for much longer. The previous chang... : Kerath
  • my 9800pro and 2500+ cpu can run stuff at 800x600 pretty well, but multiplayer gaming in quake4 (ET:QW!!!... : radula

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  The nvidia card has been out for how long? If I was upgrading now I'd get the X1900 AIW because I love... : MrLonghair
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    7800GTX was out in June and the 7800GTX 512 was out late last year. : byorn
    • is the gtx 512 even in stock anywhere? i can't see it. : tigeN
  • How is that a factor? Older, cheaper, on par performance-wise. Or newer, more expensive, on par performan... : TrptJim
• The 512MB GTX is going for ~$750!! If you can find it. : AcesnEights

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  I see it as still same gen as the 1800xt. ATI completely phases out the 1800's when the 1900's are out. T... : TrptJim
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    Ah yes well, why are the performance figures a little sub-par considering the hardware? : scorpiusman
    • What's sub-par? The XTX seems to be cheaper and faster than a 7800 gtx 512. Even the cheaper XT is qui... : tigeN

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• crossfire requires a hardware compositing engine, which is what the non-crossfire boards lack, only one b : Toraz Chryx
• Well you wouldn't get the "master" card first, if you were only buying one card. You would get that one w... : tigeN

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• I see on the shack the other day a post, stating that an AGP version of the 7800 was going to be released... : kurumba
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  Yup, NVIDIA Will release the 7800 SG which should be out in feb. : palladinfain
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    Doh I meant GS not SG 7800 GS is for AGP. : palladinfain
    • any idea on cost? I was thinking of getting 6800GS but now not so sure... Also, isn't there an issue b... : madclown
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  RIGHT now, the fastest thing going for AGP is the ATi X850XT : Toraz Chryx
  • http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=3100 : siobahn

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  O_o not expen$ive???? that is a relative term my friend....1 of those cards is around 2 weeks take home p... : crypt_33
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    And you're still in good shape. Today's $200 cards provide better performance in current games than they ... : Commee
    • there are a few problems with your argument though (no offense is intended I assure you) 1. it is not an... : crypt_33

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  yeah, its like.... 2 xbox 360's .. damn... a whole lot of bling : BigT
  • Yeah, I could never justify the purchase of such an expensive card. I can't wait to make money. :( : freshyk
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  don't blame maarten for quoting HardOCP, he doesn't know any better because he's not so good with the eng... : Luminair
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    Oh I don't blame Maarten. I just think its funny that whoever writes for HardOCP wants to give us an Eco... : falkan
    • for about 8 years now I have had incidental contact with writing from HardOCP, and every time it made me ... : Luminair
    • ^^^^^^^^^^ troof : jrock
    • ^^^ hahaha IAWTP : cucumber1972

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• I can't believe I said bangin'. ... How's FEAR on this card, anyway? Haven't played it yet. : rudds
• FEAR looked great with everything (but resolution) maxed on an agp x800 so I think you will do fine with ... : d3tached

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• the AIW models are aimed more towards the HTPC crowd, nothing to do with CAD, you're thinking of FireGL : Toraz Chryx

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  sigh... are you seriously surprised? : mystifier
  • I am at the starting prices of these cards yes. I know they've been like this for a good 6 months, but s... : Q-ball

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• hehe thats the only thing holding me back right now...my X800Xl still plays the only games i play fine so... : orpheusnz

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• But maybe it would increase bandwidth because they can pump it all in and out that much faster without ha... : raija

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• I had the same card and I just upgraded to a XfX 6800GS and I couldnt be more happy.9700 pro is showing i... : funluvncriminal

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• They didn't review it, they "evaluated" it : MrLonghair

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• That's what I'm waiting for. : freshyk

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• I would not really consider these cards as "next-gen" wait until DX10 to see the next gen stuff. : Arcipello1

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  Not 650 dollars faster, that i will guarantee without ever having seen either. : trevis
  • so 20% faster? : Pneum0

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  I thought they were supposed to have the 90nm chips out this month. : intothefray
  • They've been holding of the 7900 Ultra until the ATI 1900 got released, to up the ante in case ATI had an... : Judicator.Khas

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• if it wasn't so Xtreme, they wouldnt have to do that. : d0pamine
• I'm waiting for ATi to start adding "Fatality" branding to their cards, too. : Ride-My-Rocket

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  This is ATI that can't be possible. I'm still waiting for the 8500 to launch in stores. : Crimsonbeak
  • My 8500 is still working great in my sister's computer running Sims2... it was a good card! : kevp
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    no really! bostrov}'s had an X1900 XT for a few days now : Postal
    • oops. : Postal

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• Does suck that its so expensive. You could build an entire PC for cheaper then that. Why the fuck are vid... : bozer
• Now that we're passing Voodoo2 SLI pricing on a single card, I think it's safe to say that this shit is f... : yakz
• omg expensive. pointless card. done. : Gaurav Sharma

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• DirectX 9 -> http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/chipcomp/?view=chipdetails&id=105&orderby=release_date&order=Or... : SlamDunk