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ATI X1000 Series Announced
by Maarten Goldstein, Oct 05, 2005 6:40am PDTIt is that time of the year again; a new GPU introduction by ATI. The X1000 family includes the X1800, X1600 and X1300 chipsets (available in the various confusing XL / XT / Pro configurations), with cards based on these chips going for about $549 for the fastest model to $79 for the slowest. HardOCP and Tech Report have previews of the R500-series graphics architecture, which is all about proper Shader Model 3.0 support.
The bottom line is that the Radeon X1800 XL and X1600 XT compete very well with what NVIDIA has out there. They do not offer any large performance increases, but they do add a few quality improvements that may be beneficial to gamers. With the X1000 series, you have control over anisotropic filtering and you can also now enable a high quality method to create the absolute best filtering in your games. The X1000 series also supports anti-aliasing with HDR. This could potentially be a big feature if future games start to use a lot of HDR. The performance of HDR with AA in new games is really yet to be seen, but if these video cards can master it, they might just have a good image quality advantage over the GeForce 7 series. All the talk about being able to do dynamic branching very fast could also be an advantage if those features are used heavily in future titles.As for availability, Radeon X1800 XL, X1300 Pro, and X1300 equipped cards should now be available, the top end Radeon X1800 XT mid-November, and the mid-range cards by the end of November.
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http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10866157
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So, the TL;DR =
R520 is very quick in DirectX, surpassing 7800GTX SLI rigs at times, keeping up with them at others.
R520 SUCKS DONKLEY BALLS in opengl, this is almost certainly driver related, fix plz ATI
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ATI's New Radeon® X1800 Garnering Industry Wide Praise From Game Developers
Worth a read
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What should my next AGP card be?
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Well, they just lost my interest then. The single most important thing in a 3D graphics card is that it can produce high frame rates. Honestly, it is the one thing that everyone can notice. The difference between 8x and 4x anti--sopotropic(??) filtering is negligible in terms of how much I enjoy a game.
ATI is tripping if you ask me :(
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It means that the mid range cards are more than enough for me to enjoy myself - it's awesome :)
Sorry, that's not worth $200 additional cost to me. Not even close.
And I find it disturbing that they even waste the time to develop, let alone release, low-end parts that price-wise can't even compete. Why bother wasting the development and processing to create a card that costs more and performs less? What a joke those two lower-end cards are (x1300 and x1600). People shopping for a $150 card for a budget gaming system on a 17" LCD aren't interested in shadermodel 3.0 and 2048x anti-aliased penis extensions as much as they are Playable Framerates at 1280x.
If I'm understanding this right, even if these cards were available in stores/online today, the best PCI-E card one can buy for ~$250 is still either an X800XL or a 6800GT. (Or a Sapphire X800 GTO2 for $230, flash the BIOS to X800XT, replace stock hsf with better cooling, and overclock it.)
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when are the benches comming out?
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"Consumer electronics displays have a different range of timing modes to PC displays and previous ATI hardware has used software routines to match the timing modes when these displays are being connected to, however Avivo now features a complete set of timings for both PC and consumer electronics standards which should reduce issues such as over scan on TV Outputs."
More details can be found at this article at Beyond3D:
http://www.beyond3d.com/previews/ati/avivo/
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1) Price;
2) Availability.
1 - If the price's too high, it would be very difficult to convince people to buy a high-end card with almost the same performance that a $100-less card (7800GTX).
2 - Remember that the X1800XT will be available only middle-November, which gives a lot of time to nVidia think how to counter-attack with something like a 7800Ultra.
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I wanted to upgrade this month, for the latest releases, but only have enough money for a card. Which means it has to be AGP. And which means it has to be, like, soon.
I'll do a full revamp next year and go PCI-Express, but I need something to hold me over for the holidays.
I'd like to spend about $250. So, on sale X800XL AGP my best bet? :S
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Plust which is better is it
xL>xt>pro??? or is it xt>xl>pro
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perhaps thats just my fustration for the htpc scene showing through, but this area definitly needs some polish IMO.
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Or is it only availible to PC makers like Dell or Alienware?
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I wanna know how these will compare to current generation of cards, because that's fucking cheap.
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But this is ridiculous.
Another paper launch with a far from revolutionary product?
I thought r520 would smoke nVidia's offering (available in large quantities for months now).
I thought ATI would stop launching their stuff on paper, like nVidia does these days, and make the r520 products available when nda's are lifted.
Apparently i think too much (hehe), but imho ATI is really missing the boat with their new chip.
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Now the question is 6800gt agp or x800xl agp (either transparencAA or sm3.0), and how much will the prices for the older cards go down :[
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