Prey to be Re-Revealed at E3

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  Your bioforce game sounds alot like Crusader:No Remorse (or Regret) : ShadowRam
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    Bioforge and Crusader were both made by Origin. : Popedispencer
    • I miss Origin *sniff* : James T. Kirk
    • I'd love to see another Crusader game. However EA owns the rights and much like much of EAs pre-sports ca... : baron calamity
  • I miss the Crusader games. : SixDemonBag
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  Bioforge owned. : gl2 drivers
  • Yes, it was delicious, and I'm not sure if any adventure game with that atmosphere has surpassed it since... : FlatlineDixay
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  Man, I still rmember using someone's leg t beat other people up with near the beginning of that game. Tha... : bigimp
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    I think it was a severed arm but yes that game was incredible. : gl2 drivers
    • "I HAVE NO WISH TO HARM YOU!" : deadfish
  • All whilst shouting "We should be fighting together!" : thaperfectdrug
• bioforge is great. Game is in box in my classic pile back home next to doom1,doom2, system shock, system ... : deadfish
• If you've come for the fork, you'll be sorely disapointed! : abrasion
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  Huh... The concept was lame even back then; the only cool thing was the tech (and man did it seem cool).... : GreatGooglyMoogly
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    Ok so clearly I'm not the only one who fails to see the excitement for the game. : abrasion
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      How I see it, we're not the ones failing anything here :) : GreatGooglyMoogly
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        Yea, it was a severed arm. I remember him saying when you picked it up "A severed arm!" in so much excit... : adempha
        • And my favorite: "A HUNK OF MEAT!" : thaperfectdrug

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  Well prey was canned long ago and then brought back. Its not like its been in development for 10 years. ... : ratman
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    Yeah, anyone still thinking we really are going to see Starcraft ghost? : baron calamity
    • I think we will, but I have doubts as to if it will feel like atrue Blizzard game or not. I just "prey" ... : ratman
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    subpar games? please tell me one game that I listed which was subpar? GTA? Thief? Splinter Cell? Nope. ... : manlyman
    • I didnt mean to imply those games are subpar at all. But if 3DR doesnt want to release DNF its probably n... : ratman
    • You are right. All of those games kick major ass. Who knows what the Hell 3DR has been up to... : PenicillinX57
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  First of all, if Duke 4 was released back a few years ago with the Quake 2 engine, that would have sucked... : drneutron
  • say hi to dr. proton for me, would ya? : ratman
  • Titor? Is that you??? : PenicillinX57
  • that's fantastic : {Venger}
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  Read this before making DNF/ 3DRealms comment/joke. 1996: Game companies are around 10-25 people are s... : exigence7
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    id still manage with a small dev team. : blackhawk
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      don't try to talk sense to people who have an emotional attatchment to a brand, a game, a developer, etc... : humpx
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        exigence7's post seems pretty logical to me. id has managed with a small team and thats great. I'm sure y... : ratman
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          I'd love to debate the point but the last time I questioned Geroges/3DR's character/abilities I got banne... : humpx
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            Well wait. What is your point exactly? All you've really said is that you can't talk sense into people th... : ratman
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              That's the point though, what games have they made? They've done nothing on PC since Duke3d, (max payn... : blackhawk
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                Do you have ANY inkling as to how much money they've made the past 4 years? They've sold the Max Payne IP... : GreatGooglyMoogly
                • Correction: I don't think they sold the Duke Nukem IP, but the publishing deal might've been for all futu... : GreatGooglyMoogly
              • How can you expect people to take you seriously if you don't even remember Shadow Warrior? Go play that ... : vigilante
            • 3DR can do anything they dam well please, they are privately held and its their prerogative to take their... : humpx
    • id has the Carmack. The benefit there is that the main programmer is the owner, so that he knew very wel... : exigence7
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      Must be why Doom 3 was shit. Very easy when they just make the same game over and over again. No that ... : SpaecKow
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        well, before you troll, read GeorgeBs comment on Doom 3 http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=8307369 and m... : matthaeus
        • I guess he's impressed with anyone who acually finishes a game once in a while! Ok, so that was lame..... : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • Small team, sure, but there's definitely been overambition and feature creep slowing DNF down too. That's : node

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• wow, that actually still looks good : GloriousCow
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  That's still a cool video. And doesn't LevelLord look YOUNG? Holy Shit! Time has not been gentle to LL... : ezanga
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    That's not Levelord... it's Paul Schuytema. : scott alden
    • Perhaps he's LevelLord's genetically altered twin? : ezanga
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  Wow. Destructable environments and realtime lightning, that would be great! : Lagiv
  • The more I watch that video, the more I think that the destructive environments are scripted, and not rea... : famine101
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  That looked great, what the heck happened : railchu
  • I think the technology behind it didn't work out and 3D Realms couldn't handle 2 projects at once. : iamgoat
• Slightly higher quality version of the video: http://www.roushimsx.com/prey/Prey_E3_1998_IMHz.avi : roushimsx
• I don't think the game ever reached a 'late into development' stage. Tech never got done. : megarust32
• holy shit. I would play that game now. : sheivachman
• Very cool, thanks. : afo
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  dude how come nobody ever put those portal things that you can shoot through in a game. : Yabrodan
  • You could shoot through teleporters in Duke3D :P : iamgoat
  • There was a problem with the tech. It looked great, but it became a bit too impossible to work with. I ... : exigence7
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    They did. It was called Unreal. Nobody liked the Unreal deathmatch, so It kinda fell out of use. But... : famine101
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      yeah but I want the ones that i get to place myself not ones mounted in the level, I used to love shootin... : Yabrodan
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        Not with DOOM 3 tech they won't. : GreatGooglyMoogly
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          They could modify the engine, right? : megarust32
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            Not really. : GreatGooglyMoogly
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              You can modify any engine to do damned near anything. : GeorgeB3DR
              • Interesting. : exigence7
              • does that mean?!?!!11ononeon1111!!.... \o/\o/\o/ : lonestar3
• hehe, I saw the old tech vids and was suitably impressed by all the portal rendering stuff they had going... : Mr_flamey

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• yeah I pretty much agree with you. I feel the Doom3 engine is underestimated by most but still I think s... : ease_one
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  lol, mention one game that have better looking shadows than Doom3. Oh, you can´t, because whateve... : Spike Spiegel
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    the point is that prey was never about lighting and shadowing. Doom 3 as a an engine choice for prey just... : ballystix
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      I can´t see anything from with realistic lightning in prey. What they might do is to mod it to su... : Spike Spiegel
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        from == wrong : Spike Spiegel
        • lighting, need ...sleep : Spike Spiegel
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    I'd rather the engine from riddick. THe shadows seemed to be tapered instead of too sharp and it ran muc... : kingdepork
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      the Riddick demo ran like shit on my machine at 640x480 medium settings, while I could run Doom3 at 800x6... : eskimo spy
      • dunno i ran it at high detail at 1024X768 with no slowdown. : kingdepork
  • Unreal 3? And actually I prefer Half-Life 2's subtle shadowing detail over Doom 3's binary shadowing. : Dynotaku
  • Shadows... Well, you forgot the important part, and that's the lighting. Overall, that Chronicles of R... : GreatGooglyMoogly
• dynamic lights have really kiled the amount of... light. : thebigbeefsandwhich
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  just because Doom3 itself uses dark shadows doesn't mean you have ot use the lighting engine the same way : armybob
  • I agree. I've always been mystified by this criticism of the Doom 3 engine. Obviously, the darkness is pu... : Silent Sorrow
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    Yeah but the engine can't (to my knowledge) do either 1) soft edge shadows, at least in its current state... : Dynotaku
    • Any real shadow is defined as the absence of light, which is exactly what the shadows in Doom3 are. They... : timmie
    • Umm, quake3 had soft shadows that were not "completely black". Sure, it was an option you had to turn on... : rpdillon
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  I remember the cool spinning portal thing from a video, then Epic remade it in the Unreal engine for fun.... : node
  • They did? For what? : thaperfectdrug
  • pics please : ballystix
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  I think any concerns you and others have about the doom3 engine could be only a distant memory. Look at w... : flasher 907
  • good point : mc-fine
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    That's a good point, but of course I have another concern. My current machine can run Q3 at 150-200 FPS. ... : Dynotaku
    • changes don't always mean increased system requirements. : eskimo spy
• Gosh, I hate to do this, but I have to. I wish folks would stop getting "engine" confused with "game".... : rpdillon

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• sorry 1998 : manlyman
• Wow, the '98 DNF trailer is WAY cooler. : PenicillinX57
• What was the deal with the kitchen? They showed it like 8 times in the movie. There was a long shot of it... : baron calamity
• How did this not get published? Destructible environments in 1999? Portable portals that could be arbitra... : Dynotaku

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• and he needs to shot fucking lazer beams out his eyes!!! Lazer with a Z cause hes HARDCORE!! : Yabrodan

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• I have still yet to see a game that has made good creative use of portal tech so far. Sure its impressive... : humpx

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• Duke Nukem? What's that? Sounds like a cool name for a video game character. : ezanga
• shhh, you'll get banned. but you're right. where's Duke? Would it be fair to write it off as vaporwa... : Peace frog

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• Crap, that was in response to: http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=9845134 : GreatGooglyMoogly

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  but the biggest question of all is, will it support SOFTWARE MODE??? : ballystix
  • So tru dat is. : ezanga
• My toaster could run pray according to those specs. : peppermd
• My PDA has 3x the requirements listed o_O : malevolence

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  I'd assume it's using DNF tech. They've been working on it long enough they might as well use it for mor... : DonkeyPopsicle
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    3DRealms aren't making the game. If you read the newspost you'll notice it's going to be made by Human H... : ADoomedMarine
    • good point. I = dumb. : DonkeyPopsicle
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      you mistyped "3drealms aren't making games" : lonestar3
      • "you mistyped "3drealms aren't making games"" Woah! Incredible that I did that isn't it? : ADoomedMarine
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  IMO, CryTek Engine fails in multiplayer... : ShadowRam
  • Multiplayer is a non-issue for me. The only multiplayer game I liked was Team Fortress and out side of TF... : baron calamity
• You don't have to make Prey in the Crytek (tm) engine, since you would be remaking Turok for N64. : drneutron

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• *DOOM the movied'ed* ? : pillzer

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• that would be sweet. : kemical
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  my thoughts, exactly. I was disappointed when they canned it because the soundtrack was lost :( : pheral
  • here's a sample http://www.roushimsx.com/prey/e398prey.mpg : roushimsx
• That's probably the saddest thing about the cancellation of the game. I love KMFDM. : Killrig

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• Says the creator of the original Prey engine was William Scarboro, he died in 2002 :( : shack_konto
• } - Pentium 166 Processor or greater } - 32MB RAM } - Supported 3D Card } - 28.8 Modem for TCP/IP Game... : Neech

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• Scanned: http://pics.chilie.net/pc-gamer-96.jpg Kind of an odd screenshot to go to print with. : chillin

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  #1 It's using the Doom 3 engine, probably none of this stuff is relevant anymore. It's probably single... : gl2 drivers
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    PREY had some inovative features that made it a potential hit. The "portal technology" was probably the m... : doomed
    • I'd play that : Degenerate
    • I agree with you completely. I don't know what they are doing technology wise, Doom 3 does use portals bu... : gl2 drivers

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  While Prey could be cool, I'd much rather have Shadow Warrior 2 : Degenerate
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    same, but then again I like seeing 'new' games rather than sequels. : kemical
    • Shadow Warrior is so old, it would be a new game at this point. : baron calamity
    • I'm usually the same way but SW was so awesome that I wouldnt mind. 3DR would probably get their pants su... : Degenerate
• i was close. ;) btw: don't count out dnf yet. i have a funny feeling something is up. : mrsnoogles

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  Why does that sound familiar....besides being something an old boss of mine once said. *GAYNERD JOKE*....... : lvlmaster
  • GeorgeB was showing off the Prey tech to some execs ( publishers? ) and one of them made this comment. : janblood

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  You definitely spoke for me. I did a double take when I saw this headline. : shredder133
  • I did more of a 'Rooby Roo?' of Scooby Doo Fame to be honest. : ihya

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• Thats because 3Drealms released completely different and conflicting info on all their games for the past... : baron calamity
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  http://atlas.secs.oakland.edu/~lcmatero/prey/files/preyfaq12.txt There we go...No more conflicting inf... : lvlmaster
  • Wow...I feel like a goddamn time traveler reading this. : Vincent Grayson

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• Ya, using Portal technology. I think it was also meant to be played on some GIANT (seamless?) alien mothe... : node
• DNF close? Ha. 3D realms has sub-out 2 Max Payne games and a few Duke Nukem games while DNF has been in d... : baron calamity

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• I read it was a pretty big nightmare to program in. : Evangelion
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  The engine was overhyped "portal" technology. It wasn't anything new back then actually but they made it ... : armybob
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    The tech demos vids which were released were VERY impressive at the time. It had a level of interactivit... : ADoomedMarine
    • I was at e3 when they had the initial private viewing that got everyone hyped on the internet for it. ... : armybob
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      "However if this game is infact using the Doom 3 engine then of course it wouldn't really have anything g... : Sludgehead
      • I'm talking about the fact that the Doom 3 engine is a pre-revealed engine.. everyone knows what it's cap... : ADoomedMarine

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  100 to 1 it gets finished before DNF : ease_one
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    1000 to 1 it gets finished before DNF : anthonybean
    • I will eat my first copy of DNF if it arrives before Prey. : Sludgehead
    • I'll take this bet. I will paypal you $1 when Prey comes out before DNF, however, you will paypal me $10 : khaosman

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• visions of battling "the end" in mgs3 come to mind. : raija
• sounds boring as hell. : needlez

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  The idea the storyline and gameplay may make it a decent game, therefor fun? Not to be smartass, but I... : Evangelion
  • I dunno... Native American takes on an alien invasion? I'm not feeling particularly compelled yet. As ... : Vantage
  • As you say so well, THE POINT OF MOST GAMES. So, if its just more of the same, why bother? : doomed
• This premise will probably sell well... in 1997... on a N64. : spdon