DOOM 3 Expansion Previews, Media

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  We didn't. ;P : eskimo spy
  • IAWTP : Sapiens
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  I know, have you even seen how Quake 1 ripped off Half-Life's rocket launcher?!?! : Dog-From-Duckhunt
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    Half-Life's rocket launcher had fucking laser guided rockets. That actually WAS innovative--as in, hadn'... : PenicillinX57
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      And Jedi Knight had picking up objects and throwing them at people for damage back in 1997. ;) : kungfusquirrel
      • But toilets? I mean, c'mon! :-P : Ride-My-Rocket
    • Quake had that too, there were also plenty of mods for Quake 1 containing "target seeking" rockets. Of c... : Dog-From-Duckhunt
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  Is it a crime to mention the game? I mean wtf. Everyone is always like "a certain something... MMMM HMMMM... : spl
  • Yes I know you mentioned HL2 later, but I didn't read that far due to ludicrous speed assassination. : spl
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  Even *if* it is a complete derivative of the HL2 grav gun, who cares? Seriously? Anyone? I can underst... : d fluke
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    I think most people that are upset by it are upset because id used to create the fps staples and now they... : SpiderMonkey
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      id created their physics system, Valve bought theirs. just saying. : eskimo spy
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        yeah, people can point out "rip-offs" and "unoriginality" like that in games all day, I still can't quite... : d fluke
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          Well to each his own I guess. If Valve hadn't thought it was worth trying to do something other than retr... : SpiderMonkey
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            uh, Doom was not the first of its kind. It was the gameplay and the environment that made it popular, not... : steelsamurai
            • Imo you are very wrong. It was the graphics that were the great enabler of the awesome atmosphere and it : SpiderMonkey
      • I'm confused as to how this is relevant to my post. I'm also confused as to how we can be talking about t... : SpiderMonkey
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        Valve uses Havoc. When did they buy Id's? : bozer
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          he's not saying they bought id's physics system, just that they bought an external one. : carnivore
          • ahhh yes,, I read that wrong. gotcha : bozer
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        That gave Valve more time to craft a detailed, well-lit environment, and a plot to fill it with. : Ride-My-Rocket
        • Detailed and very atmospheric for sure, great leveldesign.. but the plot *is* rather thin, however much I... : d fluke
      • And look at how crappy D3's was. Bodies dissappeared so you couldnt interact with them, half the objects... : bloodangel1977
      • Well, buying an external solution allows you to spend time and resources on actually using it. It is a tr... : Fred Garvin
  • I find it amusing, especially given id's track record of failure to innovate (obviously, this does not ap... : steelsamurai
• I dunno, it seems to work more like the second gravity gun that showed up in the Source engine tech previ... : SpiderMonkey
• no one owns a patent on letting the player make extensive use of the physics engine. I don't care about ... : the archvile
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  Ya, but Trespasser sucked. And from the trailer, it appears you can pull small enemies -- and toss them i : sYnZilch
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    *cough* You obviously have not played/finished Half-Life 2 *cough* : PenicillinX57
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      once you grab an enemy in HL2, they're dead. Maybe this will let you bounce them off the walls while the... : the archvile
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        I assumed he was talking about the manhacks and rollermines. And can you not launch them back into open s... : SpiderMonkey
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          they're basically weapons that Gordon can't use. You can't pick up organic material until late in the ga... : the archvile
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            er, spiders, not imps ("light enemies", they say). Though you can throw back an imp's fireballs; aside f... : the archvile
            • I can't say I'm too interested in discussing the fine details of the implementation, but someone did poin : SpiderMonkey
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              Well you can throw back the alt-fire of the combine machine gun. Which is pretty much the only weapon ak... : Crimsonbeak
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                Except, even on the hardest setting, I never saw the poor AI make such attempts with their secondary fire... : sYnZilch
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                  "most of HL2 was just a gimmick" Rofl, not getting enough attention at home? No need to be such an uber-t... : SpiderMonkey
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                    When in Rome. : sYnZilch
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                      That doesn't make any sense. Are you Ron Burgandy? : Crimsonbeak
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                        It does make sense and it's a good comeback. I'll save this one on my "good flamewar quotes" file. : rorshack
                        • Here's another. "you're so gay that my a$$ hurts" : ColonCowboy
                      • So does your face. : sYnZilch
                    • Haha, nice comeback. :) : SpiderMonkey
    • He's saying Trespasser, which predates HL2 but a long shot, had it first. : carnivore
    • *oh snap* I would like to subscribe to your logic. : sYnZilch
• I really don't understand why this bothers people so much. It's a fun weapon. Who cares where it came fro... : maru mari
• You know, just to upset people they should put HL2:s sound on it aswell. All the copyright issues blatant... : Lethal01
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  WHAT THE FUCK You say this: And yes I've heard the Carmack quotes about how they had this feature in D : personaljesus
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    Watch the trailer. I wouldn't have an issue with it if they had at least implemented it differently, but... : PenicillinX57
    • You are right. It is quite absurd. The important thing is: Which game demonstrated it to users first? ... : MrLonghair
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  I'd like to see that quote, never heard that before. Link please. : fuji-juice
  • Info is somewhere in this thread: http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?comments=34576 I'm too lazy to dig f... : PenicillinX57
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  Someone needs to tell these developers to start ripping ideas from Deus ex and system shock 2. I don't gi... : Popedispencer
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    Lol Doom3 did rip heavily from System Shock 2. Only it also left out all the awesome gameplay and enemy design. duck and cover!

    Feb 25, 2005 9:34am PST
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    Lol Doom3 did rip heavily from System Shock 2. Only it also left out all the awesome gameplay and enemy d : SpiderMonkey
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      Well, it surely looked like it got some inspiration from it, the pda stuff specially. : rorshack
      • Yeah, but the only thing you need it for is locker key numbers : Popedispencer
• Myabe it's payback for HL ripping off exploding barrels from Doom! : R.Cade
• Who the fuck cares? The gravity gun was the biggest gimmick anyways. Hated that gun and I will probably... : dilutedq
• We've been over this. Go back to Wolf3d to be original, or stfu. : BaBOon
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  Dude OMG Half Life 2 has a SHOTGUN!! Blatant ripoff of DOOM!!! : needles eye
  • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=9607396 : SpiderMonkey
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    please, inventing a whole new weapon is not the same as representing a real life weapon in a game. think ... : Rapid 99
    • uhh ID invented the whole FPS genre. OMG Half Life 2 RIpPeD THeM OFF@!!!@!! : needles eye
• If the Grabber adds to the game, I don't care if it's a ripoff. : Terpfen
• Tim Willits said it had always "been in the game engine" not Carmack get your whining straight holmes. : dumptruck
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  http://hosted.zeh.com.br/misc/doom_halflife_ripoff.gif : rorshack
  • bahahahaha, thread over! : gyvoji
  • lol : personaljesus
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    You people are taking this WAY to personally. Let it go. Let. It. Go. : PenicillinX57
    • take yr own advice and stop projecting yourself onto Valve. ffs, even in the very unlikely event of someo... : eskimo spy
    • Ironic post of the day. Shit disturber compels people to stop throwing shit!! Bahaha : BaBOon
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      coming from you? : personaljesus
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        I made a 3 sentence post on a gaming forum. Why is everyone here so quick to judge? : PenicillinX57
        • because your post is about as fresh and original as someone posting how kb mouse is better then a gamepad... : armybob
        • yea, may be the reactions to your post are a bit excessive. Sorry about that. Now that I am drunk, I now ... : personaljesus
• TROLL MUCH? : X-GOUKI
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  using secondary fire for pick up and primary for shooting is pretty complex isn't it, i don't think anyon... : cam3lt0sis
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    that makes me curious. what other "firing" modes could a gravity gun have? : ermac
    • we better ask valve, as clearly they're at the forefront of innovation with gravity guns and alien invasi... : cam3lt0sis
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    Its a rip for crying out loud. If Valve made an expansion pack with a new weapon called the Spirit Ball a... : mc-fine
    • i'd hate to say it, but a cube that takes in 5 souls and instantly kills another monster while giving you... : cam3lt0sis
• And the shotgun or machine gun in HL2 didn't like just like shotguns/machine guns in other games so its a... : notext
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  Myabe they did but the physics in D3 are so bad they probably had to take it out. : astrofunk
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    They are bad? How and why? Just because they don't have physics puzzles on every corner that doesn't m... : rorshack
    • Try jumping on top of a box and then move around. Play around with the "witches hats" or any physicalised... : astrofunk