DOOM 3 Expansion Preview

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  Wolf:ET was free. : Colonel Angus
  • aye, and with a free took kit its an awesome engine to use for mods. : Turd Ferguson
• That's a little far fetched comparison I think. : xphil
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  Maybe i'll eat my words on this, but has the Unreal engine been open-sourced? : Holesinswiss
  • No it has not ... there is licensing for the source. : TheNarcis
• id exp packs = worth paying for epic extra maps = nice bonus, worth downloading if your hardcore : Pneum0
• Aren't most of the Epic expansion packs repackaged user levels? : capt tripps
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  Not if you consider that ut2k4 == an exp pack priced as a whole game. It's all semantics. : rorshack
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    FFS, the shack is STILL caught up on id vs. Epic? Hey genius, what game is UT2K4 an expansion pack for... : daggah
    • shuddup Daggah : fen boi
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      Way to go, hot blood. That was an example to say that people should judge all the game industry by a sing... : rorshack
      • you know who you are replying to, right? the legendary Daggah. : personaljesus
• so what did epic put out for ut2004? wasn't it just one pack with 6 new player models, 3 new vehicles,... : Mansmells

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• email me: doghell@hotmail.com : doghell
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  Regarding Doom3 mods generally: I'm gonna assume this game will have no community. I think it'd be better... : SpiderMonkey
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    yea for sure, but the fact is that no one has thought to remake this game (space hulk: votba) and its a f... : doghell
    • I dunno, I'd just rather distill the game down to what, say, three things I thought were what made it wha... : SpiderMonkey
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    Do any games really have a mod community these days? I think I remember hearing that Red Orchestra only ... : daggah
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      If anything, I'd say most mod projects seem to be art driven, rather than gameplay/code driven, so that w : SpiderMonkey
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        I dont think CS was art driven... at least I hope not after looking at it. : Pneum0
        • Yeah I meant more, most current mods seem that way. All too many renders and too little coding/original g... : SpiderMonkey
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      think its closer to a couple hundred http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/mods.asp?id=837&s=1 but still n... : Turd Ferguson
      • Guess I heard wrong then. Still, you're right, the numbers are still pretty low. Guess it doesn't help ... : daggah
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      Half-Life is still really the benchmark of mod community success... Everyone and their dog has worked on ... : kungfusquirrel
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        I hope your more optimistic attitude is right. I agree that Epic's support of the mod community is outst... : daggah
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          part of the problem is that everybody thinks "oh nobody is playing so I won't play either". there are pro... : moonbreaker
          • Oh yeah, totally agree...it's a catch 22, basically. : daggah
      • It's worthy of note, imo, that CoD also has a massive playerbase - I'd theorise on that basis that a real... : SpiderMonkey
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      I think you're right about content being harder to generate. That's not to say that there aren't people ... : maddy
      • It's a sign of something broken in a mod community, imo, if you need art to stand out. Afaik, TF and CS's... : SpiderMonkey
    • It's simply that there isn't one single dominant game like back in the Quake and Quake 2 days. Back ... : Anti_dentite

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• soldier of fortune 2 demo rocks. would be nice if id released a mp doom3 demo. : doghell
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  You don't start with the pistol in MP on the expansion, you start with the MG now. The Double Barrel in M... : Cygnus X-1
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    you've played the exp. awesome man. but seriously you guys need to make a game mode based around stealt... : doghell
    • he's associated with activision, not id iirc : Turd Ferguson
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    I'm actually a big fan of starting players off weak, but thats just me. : Vorlonesque
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      If by MG he means the dinky rifle/SMG thing then players still start off fairly weak. If players start wi... : Evil Furby
      • i agree, that SMG is still quite weak and would suffice as a spawn weapon. I would really like it as I l... : Turd Ferguson
• doom 3 multiplayer is fun, reminds me of quake 2 in a way ... too bad nobody really plays it : atreus
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  actually yes. isn't threewave coming to Doom3 w/this? : moonbreaker
  • thats correct. its certainly got a chance of being pretty fun with the threewave guys on it. : Turd Ferguson
• The problem is DOOM3 brings even the best systems to 30fps in firefights. Most people cant aim that well... : Pneum0

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  Question: weren't these the guys doing Trinity? Why did that go south? : Schnapple
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    I think Gray Matter worked on Trinity. : brushbaron
    • thats correct, gray matter did a great job with the COD expansion as well. the 3 dev teams that worked o... : snowwolf

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• I'll give it some love. Once they get some REAL mutliplayer going on in it. : mrmaster2