Quake 4 Preview Soon

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  Newsflash: That's basically all they ever said it would be. They never claimed groundbreaking new gamepl... : Katarn3279
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    And as such, people should not paint the picture that it is such an awesome game. : digitaljihad
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      except for the fact that it is an awesome game. best fps in awhile. : dilutedq
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        I'd have to agree. It's unfortunate some people don't agree, but hey.. to each his own I guess. : slip42o
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          People see things like vehicles, and big landscapes with foilage, and they automatically assume it's new ... : dilutedq
          • I couldn't have said it any better. : slip42o
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            One word: Linearity. Nothing against immersive games but it's frustrating that developers invest a lot... : Mad Brahmin Disease
            • That was in my opinion the greatest achievement of Metroid Prime. No linearity, no separated levels, no l... : pillzer
            • Halo's ragdolls are pretty cool. : pipboy
  • yeah, that whole "we're going to redefine what people expect from a fps" was supposed to mean "we're usin... : veggie
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    John Carmack - This has been one of the areas where I know we are going to get some negative feedback. Do : Fred Garvin
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      the only claim/quote you need have posted was the "outstanding single-player experience" - which Doom3 is... : eskimo spy
      • That's a matter of opinion and in my opinion it was a solid, far from outstanding experience. : Fred Garvin
    • Most immersive FPS ever.. no doubt. : Pneum0
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  i don't understand how people can like football, hockey, basketball... god, my grandparents played the sa... : ermac
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    No one has expectations for those games. People had high expectations for the next level with Doom 3 and... : Tawler
    • Not true. People expect the superbowl to have good commercials which more than make up for the crappy gam... : Topaz
• I was reminded alot of Quake2 SP gameplay. The Doom3 monster cloests and repeated way-behind-you spawing... : dawurz

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• hang on, you're trying to tell me a FPS using the doom 3 engine looks like doom3 but with different thing... : ermac

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  Single-player-centric with a large multiplayer component. : myLeftTesticleofFury
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    None of the Quake games were popular because of their single-player. Don't get me wrong, I love the orig... : Dog-From-Duckhunt
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      Wrong... Quake 1 and 2 both had damn good single player when compared against other games that had come ... : myLeftTesticleofFury
      • Besides, I wasn't sharing what I'm hoping for (not that I'm against it). That's what it they're planning... : myLeftTesticleofFury

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  go play counterstrike! : derean
  • Is that the "Comedy 'OMG Go Play CS' Option" or are you actually serious? Because there's almost nothing ... : jrock
• Erm. No. : nomaad
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  The K-Bar is a joek btw : jrock
  • Actually, it might be a good idea to have a few powerful melee/point blank attacks. That would encourage... : Dog-From-Duckhunt
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  Uhm...tell me why space rangers in the future would still be using USPs and MP5s specifically. And btw, ... : zeecog
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    And no fists either I'm fairly certain. : zeecog
    • The gauntlet is a fist.... : myLeftTesticleofFury
• I 3> the hyperblaster! : el_bandito
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  Why the Quake 3 rocket launcher? Its slow and weak. You listed the non-nerfed versions of the other wea... : Dog-From-Duckhunt
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    compared to the q2 RL, it's incredible : natespicer
    • Compared to the Quake2 RL it is an instant hit, instagib weapon! Seriously though, whats the deal with t... : Dog-From-Duckhunt

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  *if* they include the railgun? The railgun will definitely be there. Quake without the rail would be li... : johnny rotten
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    Quake had a railgun? : SatansFist
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      Negative; the railgun entered with Q2. : buroja
      • I am aware of this. I was making sure the original poster was as well ;) : SatansFist
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      quake as the franchise... : johnny rotten
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        So Quake isn't part of the Quake franchise? Hmm ;) : SatansFist
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          Not to be facetious, but it almost seems as if it isn't. Q2 took place in a radically different universe... : buroja
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            I think the Shambler was a pretty cool evil guy from Q1. Bring him/her/it back. :) : Waverider
            • Sammy rocks! Big furry cute, yet deadly :) : Dog-From-Duckhunt
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            What you have to remember is when quake1 came out there were no other 3d first person shooters to copy. t... : physio
            • We tried and tried to dig Doom 3 multiplayer at Quakecon but over and over again we went back to Quake 3.... : mrwolf710
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            No, the least continuity award goes to Final Fantasy. I think Quake2 and 3 had a somewhat similar visu... : Tawler
            • what the hell are you talking about??? every final fantasy has a gay/girly male main character, if tha... : derean
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              Whatever happened to Paul Steed, anyway? He was with id and then he dropped right off the face of the ear... : Waverider
              • fired for suggesting making doom3, iirc : osiris_brad
              • Went to Wild Tangent, made some games no one played, then got laid off and I think he works at Microsoft ... : janblood
            • I should have been more specific: I was speaking strictly in relation to games made by id. In the whole ... : buroja
    • Quake 2 was named that to sell copies. It should have been named douche-bag strogg wars: elite. : kingdepork
  • People who think like this make me sad. : insta
  • You meant to say BFG and chainsaw. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Haha... I emailed them a suggestion early in the development of the game and recommended that they give ... : myLeftTesticleofFury
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    Dude if Q4's multi is anywhere NEAR as good as CPMA, I won't be coming out of my room for a year. : Silent Bob
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      I remember talking to fredo once from id software, and he said QW/CPMA actually makes him seasick.. so I ... : insta
      • Somebody tell him they make pills for that (and turn off runbob). : Silent Bob
    • it'll never be like CPMA, they actually want to lower the bar for newbies not raise it! it has better ... : derean

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  ummm Quake 4? : manlyman
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    Oh shi... I didn't think that was THIS months... I should learn to read. ;( : stelth
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      earth shattering.. quake.. got it? :D : rorshack
      • Yes... How did I not see that? Good eye, btw. :D : stelth
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        You don't have much faith in Raven? And how can this one suck if the last 3 were so great as you say? ... : Exordos
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          Damn it, I posted this on the wrong thread. : Exordos
          • Good to hear, I was like "wtf?" : rorshack

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• NS represent! : tommydNS

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• Yes! Listen to this man! : chrisxtreme

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  If I can't get a q4test.exe then I am driving down to id's offices in texas and I am going to march right... : rosewood
  • except id isn't making quake4 : cryptical
• its out already ... its called Doom3 : onemind

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• I bet there won't be a flashlight at all : peter

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• Wtf are u talking about? Meh?? riiiight.... : buzzfunk
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  You can tell that from a magazine cover, eh? : Waverider
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    I think what he meant was 'theme.' I totally hated the Strogg theme. The whole 'robot zhombie monster'... : hawke
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      Yeh exactly man, they should use bright happy colors! They should just change the whole theme to Quake to... : slip42o
      • or Serious Sam : osiris_brad
    • The fact that QIV is based on Q2 settings should come as no surprise since they stated that when the titl... : jake
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  The graphics are great. The guy who decided cut+paste the grunt on a BRIGHT RED COVER should be shot thou... : Ajax
  • IWTP :/ That guy should be forced to play D3 all over again without the flashlight. : pillzer
• here we go again... not having a fucking clue of what we're talking about eh? Show me the "meh" screensho... : mystifier

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  CS:S is pretty damn good... : snowwolf
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    Uhm no. If your talking about bottles and the other small objects you'll notice when watching more than o... : kraemer
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      aren't barrels and tires are synched though? : Turd Ferguson
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        No, I watched over two gamers shoulders at a gamers CAFE and noticed that they arent synched between clie... : kraemer
        • i think you're wrong, barrels tires, buckets, weapons, and any other large objects which react to your mo... : kemical
    • Uhm no. I wanted to say that cause I find that phrase annoying..... LOL : digitaljihad
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  Bah, someone will figure out a way to do it. It's the next big step. : slackor
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    Nope. Cant. WAN connections arent fast enough. Physics simiulation requires on the fly generation of rand... : kraemer
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      But why does it need to be random. I mean if you do X to crates, then having them fall the same way twic... : Vorlonesque
      • Right, so you'd basically have to either get rid of per pixel hit detection or have all physics based obj... : kraemer
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      Good God man, why would you need unpredictability to simulate real world objects? Physics are derivative... : SLUDGE^
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        Yes, you need unpredictability (aka chaos theory) to simulate real world objects or else they look like p... : kraemer
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          The aspect of chaos theory that you are addressing stipulates that you can derive an end from a series of : SLUDGE^
          • sludge is THE MAN : derean
    • Use the same seed for all clients based on an object ID set in the start of the game per object. : batkiwi
    • First of all throw out the term WAN connection a few more times because you clearly don't understand what... : gl2 drivers
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  Aren't most physics client side? : Kayn
  • Should be. Anything that doesn't affect gameplay (be it a pop can, a bottle, or a fleshlite) should be p... : Vorlonesque
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  Wrong. It's hard not impossible. Doom3 multi has boxes and barrels that synch up perfectly with a good pi... : Cpt. Baseballbat
  • With how many players, again? : MrLonghair
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  Ok, and be sure to give me a call when you start seeing those objects interacting with mutliple players a... : kraemer
  • You for got to post your telephone number. : Sander Pilon
• If you can do it over a lan you can do it over a wan. : idmud
• You must not have played the CENSORED beta. : jake
• Quakeworld has really fun physics, and it has been played on the internet since 1996. : Dog-From-Duckhunt
• Lets hope they break from the current mold of multiplayer FPS games and go with the older hardcore school... : Dog-From-Duckhunt

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• good for multiplayer then! yay! : radula
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  you obviously have been missing out on why normal mapping is so awesome. you can have low poly models wi... : deathofrats
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    8 essential vitamins and mines : mrwolf710
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      Crap, crap, crap. I am not clicking on the wrong post to reply to. Whats going on with my browser? Nev... : mrwolf710
      • happens to me too : scud
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        turn off the jazz controls in the options : railchu
        • dthread controls : railchu
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    Yes, I realize that shiny normal maps are fun, but I'm very sorry, if you can still tell it's low poly, i... : osiris_brad
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      yeah, import 1 million + polygon models directly into a game with realtime lighting and shadows. great i... : ferraro
      • Did I say not reducing it at all? My complaint is that they rely so heavily on normal mapping that the... : osiris_brad

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• Magazine publication schedule is generally a month in advance. It's sort of gotten out of hand though, wh... : jrock

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  Can you elaborate some key details? : rabbit003
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    Fuck that. PM all of us some scans! ;) : Silent Bob
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      yes please i just wanna drool over what it looks like already : Break
      • this entire site is run off of premature ejaculation. : kevp
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  Yer da man Will, er, Gonzo. From PC Gamer, I would expect nothing less. With Mr. Morris at the helm now... : dawurz
  • Whoah, where did that ass-kissing crescendo come from? : jrock

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• Actually I thought SOF2 had good Multiplayer...much better than CS in terms of raw gameplay. Also, n... : Vorlonesque
• Quake is Quake. : mystifier
• RAVEN, is the only reason, Im thinking this one might actually be good. : Tippytoe
• Whaa....? SOF was very good. I highly enjoyed it. Raven always turns out a solid title. : asylumn

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• quake4 won't be out in 6 months let alone 2. next christmas is about right : AllYourBase
• I WONT BE ABLE TO SLEEP NOW KNOWING OF THIS CONSPIRACY. : Pink0r
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  This food for thought begs the question... "SO WHAT!?!" Saying that it was too early to show anything : Ajax
  • lol, I didnt know you guys would take it so seriously. I mean I'm even a id fanboy. it was just an obs... : buckshack

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  I dunno, whats the readership of pcgamer compared to the shack? Plus the shack isn't in every convenience... : Mugsy
  • there's not just the shack though, there's ign(ugh) gamespy(ugh) gamespot(meh) surely all those are gre... : AllYourBase
• You just explained it right there. Activision probably got a huge price break and/or kickback for this ex... : Ajax
• Because you have to actually BUY the mag? *rolleyes* : mystifier

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  q2ctf was one the 2nd greatest things ever, first would be all you can eat garlic loafs : flasher 907
  • IAWTP, however the 2nd best thing would have to be cheese. : mystifier

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• I dunno about 10 page but the Quake 2 preview issue was pretty big and it had some large shots. I've sti... : gyvoji
• The one they did for HL2 was nine pages, but it also came with a 16 page booklet about "the making of HL2... : BagelBoy

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• Umm damn! Q2 was alot of fun if its more/better of the same they earn my money! : limabone-jlp
• Same here. I've been hoping to hear about this title (that has been lurking in our peripheral vision wai... : Vorlonesque
• My mind immediately went into Quake1/2 nostagia mode. I couldn't stop it. : myLeftTesticleofFury
• Hope they bring back double jumping. : slacko

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• It's PC Gamer. Scoops go to them, not the other way round. : slacko

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• Word, Matt you rule, keep up the awesome work! : flip0it

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• Try again. : rorshack
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  My crystal ball (your profile) tells me you're an nvidia fanboy/troll. : kingdepork
  • profile=history : kingdepork
• that was a very intelligent post : personaljesus
• ha u like crack : khroma

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• i thought it was duke nukem forever. :( : kemical

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  It sounds like there are lots of people that have already licensed the Doom 3 engine for games. I think ... : mrwolf710
  • Seriously? That's a lot. : rorshack
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    Yea, but do you want to see ANOTHER Wolf, Quake, and Doom in 2010? : kraemer
    • i do, kinda... : ermac

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  Maybe if you can get Shogo 2 greenlighted they'll switch to Q1 style... seriously though, Shogo 2 woul... : genjuro
  • publishers prefer to fund games that sell... : dmiller

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  i was expecting it : lord_omega
  • you lie. : virus
  • I have been hoping we would hear something "soon" ever since they announced that they would not be releas... : Turd Ferguson
• Hopefully it ships when its all the way done and not in time for the holidays like the original. : Ajax

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• Hm.. is there some number lower than 0 and not negative? : rorshack