Trent Reznor On DOOM 3

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• it was also one of the most stunning games visually. : jdwango

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• Because people actually played anything in the Thief series, lmao! : mattswift
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  Well, I doubt a game company would just do sound for another company. : Fred Garvin
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    Well, Eric Brosius does appear courtesy of Irrational. : janblood
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      What are you talking about? : Fred Garvin
      • Eric Brosius from Irrational did work for Thief:DS, an Ion Storm game. : janblood

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  umm, reznors comment about tool was a joke... : patdoody
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    Just to reiterate, Reznor most likely just said what he knew at the time, which was that TOOL was still "... : wild falcon
    • Or it could have been sarcasm since he probably reads the message boards too and sees this stuff as well.... : TheNarcis
• Actually, Reznor wasn't kidding. There was a press story ages ago about how TOOL was contracted to do ... : wild falcon
• i think someone heard this song really early in advance, and decided : "lol lets start rumors... its TO... : ballystix

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  They actually type on a real typewriter and then scan it and put it into the website. That's why it look... : Dr Van Nostrand
  • Ha, never knew that, that is cool. : Leroy Da Playa
  • Through a series of painstaking steps involving homebrew plugins and filters, which are all then recorded... : Debased
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    except that it doesn't look cool when you actually want to read it : Mansmells
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      FFS, it's quite legible. Some people are so sensitive. : nachowray
      • sensitive? lol i just find design decisions like that stupid .. but then again i'm not the target audi... : Mansmells

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• i think he was calling tweaker a tool. : dark1138
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  http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?comments=32729 : Hollow Man
  • Darn. http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=8205191 : Hollow Man
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  I haven't heard the D3 theme until now; I am disappointed. It's Q2 cheese rock all over again, which sho... : the archvile
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    you would assume the concept of sound design in FPS is extinct because of one game? : dmiller
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      at least for Id; they've been latched onto Soundelux since Q2, and the Reznor connection was the first si... : the archvile
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        And you know all that HOW? "They did dump Sonic Mayhem after not liking most of their stuff for Q3" ... : buzzfunk
        • hah owned! I love it. there is way too much "armchair game development" and "20/20 third person hinds... : eskimo spy
        • the archvile loses. : Leroy Da Playa
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          btw, I loved the Q3A work you guys did. : Leroy Da Playa
          • thanks man....its appreciated! : buzzfunk
          • seconded : rorshack
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          for the record, I read the "dumped" thing in an interview with Bill Leeb, which I can't find in an Intern... : the archvile
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            here it is: http://www.gameslice.com/features/fla/index.shtml When you were first approached to do the : the archvile
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              That interview contained a lot of wrong info. As far as i know, id liked our stuff. Otherwise they wouldv... : buzzfunk
              • Back to topic. Im really excited about d3. And chris's theme track rocks!! I hope trent isnt gonna... : buzzfunk
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                okay, truce; I obviously misspoke and struck a nerve, forcing you to miss the bulk of my point (sort-of c... : the archvile
                • dude, its all good. Its not about you liking or disliking anything...thats ok. Lots of people hated q2, ... : buzzfunk
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              Yeah I read that article too. Maybe the FLA dudes are talking out of their ass? Since buzzfunks point tha... : SpaecKow
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                rumors aside, I am pissed about how the modern "sound effects" position in a dev team amounts more to bui... : the archvile
                • ugh, meant to say SoF2's non-stock SFX was interesting (the stuff that Quarles worked on with watermelons... : the archvile
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          I really liked the Q2 soundtrack. : DinK
          • Quad Machine - I love that track. That riff is so fun to play; reminds me of Metallica circa 1982... : janblood
          • same here, i hope they use the same kind of music for quake 4 : ballystix
        • You're work on Quake 2 was amazing. I had friends wanting copies of just the soundtrack since it rocked s... : balth
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    We all know they have had enough time to create good sounds! : phunball234raf
    • I won't be convinced until I hear the sounds, and see in the credits the ones responsible for the sound w... : the archvile
  • It's just the intro song dude. I don't think there is any music at all during the game. : Silent Bob
  • thats the title track only.. from what I heard it doesnt play in-game. : Shadowdane
  • Uhh... It's the "theme." The "theme" like...the rob zombie produced theme during the cinematic for quak... : jason e
• What program did you use for that synthesized voice? : bbq gibs

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  Given that Doom 3 was supposed to come out in 2003, and iit isn't coming out until 8 months into 2004, I'... : lisasax
  • and didn't Trent have an album to put out between then and now. : Turd Ferguson
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  fucking trents comments on money and mismanagement have got everyone in a tizzy and coming up with wacky ... : eskimo spy
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    maybe he just got tired of redoing this and that sound effect with every minor design change.. : Ukrainian Thunder
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      No, it sure as hell can't be that. He does that with his own work for years at time. : Vincent Grayson
      • but then it's him making the decision and not someone else telling him to change stuff. : timmie
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        his own work.. maybe. but being told to change what works perfectly well because id just adjusted that do... : Ukrainian Thunder
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          No, any good artist that does work on game sound knows that's the nature of the biz. If you think you are... : Fred Garvin
          • The point is trent doesn't do game sound for a living. This is side project, something he is interested i... : mallrice
• Yup, you can bet that was a MAJOR factor. : Fred Garvin
• Trent just got screwed by his former manager or something. He's involved in a big ugly lawsuit over it ap... : systatic
• Most likely it was the length of time to deliver the level and art assets. Can't do sound design if the ... : ornee

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• Rappers are the worst offenders. They do it in their music and in public. Fucking weak. : Ajax
• I love it, when it's done well too. : Leroy Da Playa
• Everybody's got an opinion : bozer
• But for rapper's is all part of the game. But musicians are just like everyone else. They're entitled ... : Topaz
• Reznor is one of the worst offenders with regard to that. : Vorlonesque

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  Yea i loved q1's soundtrack especially that first song that just rocked you right from the start. : shinta420
  • I'm listening to that one right now. Dusted off the old Ultimate Quake (1,2,3) collection box and slid it... : MrLonghair
• The excellent end level track got me into NiN. : node
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  A lot of the sound effects from Quake 1 were straight off of library CDs. I thought they were really cool... : Fred Garvin
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    Blame American McGee for that - I believe he was responsible for all Quake 1 sound effects. : janblood
    • yeah, reznor just did music. though in the beginning it was said he'd do sound effects. i think he still ... : systatic
    • yeah, reznor just did music. though in the beginning it was said he'd do sound effects. i think he still ... : systatic
    • As I remember McGee had to throw the sounds together because they couldn't use most of the ones Reznor ma... : Vorlonesque
    • Yeah, you know that teleport sound - I've heard it heaps of places, and thought to myself "hey, quake 1 s... : SpaecKow

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• But then again, I wasn't there, so take my comments with a grain of salt. : bbq gibs
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  Arnold has quit from virtually every promise he made. As a governor, he's turning into a bit of a joke. ... : lont
  • Oh look, a liberal blog. Ska! Ska! Ska! : nachowray

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• long fued between the two... : d1sregard
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  feud :( : d1sregard
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    Sigmund Feud? : Cpt. Baseballbat
    • How's it going, Freud dude? : Turd Ferguson
• that's pretty funny even without the editor's note! : jvox

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  this guy http://www.deansplanet.com/images/celebs/broads/jennifer_lopez/j_lo_nipple_tweaker_01.jpg : tunis5000
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    Haha, oh, guys, come on now! Hahaha! : ieGod
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      Tweaker is Chris Vrennna He was also, at one time, the drummer for Nine Inch Nails : industro
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        Vrenna :P : industro
        • I saw Tweaker perform at Avalon in Boston about 3-4 weeks ago. If it will serve as any indication, I reme... : Debased
• http://www.tweaker.net/ former nin, now solo. i like his stuff. : systatic

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  Im pretty sure it was Chris Vrenna. I think Trent owed him one after busting his melon open with a mic st... : VegasX
  • I think it was a collaborative effort between Vrenna, Christian and others not specifically mentioned. : swansong
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  For some reason I can't imagine him ever doing that song. Marilyn Manson, yes (and that's who he was refe... : impasse
  • OWN'D by reply button. Tee hee. : nachowray
  • If you are talking about TR's comment about personal jesus... Trent was joking dude. 311 did a very la... : phunball234raf

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  Yeah, I'm no NiN fan myself, but the E3 2003 soundtrack was SO freaking cool... In a game like this soun... : pillzer
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    IS that available for download anywhere? I don't think i've heard it... Much obliged! : alnya
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      Nope, id and activision don't want to release that video. Much to everyone's sadness - and lack of unders... : pillzer
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        http://www.megagames.com/news/show.cgi?&idtype=movies&database=73§ion=downloads& Doom Legacy 90... : cyb0rgninja
        • Cool! Thanks. Is that the same as the E3 movie that starts with mars on a monitor and pans out to show... : alnya
• same here...sounds like a time issue to me, since Im sure paying Reznor would not be cheap...maybe if the... : cap n KRUNCH

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• That would have been amazing. :( : digweed014
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  Who wrote that song? I've only heard the Johnny Cash version. : al9000
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    lol! depeche mode : the grammar police
    • yea, martin gore of depeche mode : liquidlies

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  I agree. I believe that the original Doom only sounds cool because the music is MIDI. I think if you ac... : lisasax
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    Midi has a hidden virtue - you can't mask your composition behind reverbed out noise guitar. You have to... : SLUDGE^
    • your right sludge, couldnt have put it better : derean
  • Some of the playstation doom stuff is absolutely great. I think if anything, they should so something ... : sgtsanity
• Resident Evil style, eh? (or do I remember all wrong?) Eternal Darkness was without music most of the tim... : SilverSnake

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• thats what i took it as as well. its so obviously ripping off tools style. he knows it wasnt tool. : boobie
• lol ...i thought it was tool at first listen myself until i actually saw the post by vrenna wonder if... : atreus
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  Vrenna is a really nice guy and I like the work that he has done for games. If that was a shot then Trent... : Fred Garvin
  • Trent should do whatever he wants. : Reeves

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  maybe not money, but management... have you read the book called "Masters of Doom"? : ease_one
  • I saw in the news a day or so ago that someone is writing a book about the development of Doom3. I bet ... : CRasterImage

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• IAWTP : rorshack
• i'm not sure if id software is in any way down on funds : cam3lt0sis
• Not money, but maybe it wasn't in the budget. : Durandal07

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  I hesitate to call it design. : eskimo spy
  • It's more of a type-style than design. Keen none-the-less. : stelth

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• From what we know all got scraped. http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/26522/ : pillzer

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• Tweaker did the theme. Ex-NIN drummer Chris Vrenna. : stelth
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  Uhm, I'm pretty sure Tweaker did the Doom 3 theme, considering that the full track was posted to a Tweake... : inkninja
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    I guess then that Tweek and Trent don't hang out much anymore... : zipr
    • Don't bet on it... Pictures of Vrenna in the studio with Trent have been floating around pretty recently... : jason e
    • Err.. Nevermind, I guess I was thinking of Lohner. Vrenna doesn't even talk to Reznor, these days. Oop... : jason e
  • Based on Trent's words and the recognizable musicianship displayed in the theme song, I think it is safe ... : jason e
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  It sounds like tool, you can listen to a clip of it on the doom 3 site in the media section. : pingpang99
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    I think there even was a press release stating that it's from Vrenna/Tweaker. : mulu
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      No, there was a post on a messageboard by Vrenna, himself (Tweaker). He said that he and a friend "wrote... : jason e
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        Yeah, him and Walsh. And a day after said forum post, there was a press release from tweaker.net. Or I wa... : mulu
        • I meant this: http://tweaker.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=536294265&f=346294265&m=367107791 : mulu

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  yes you must be.. : toydrvr
  • damnit.. wtf.. it was cached or something.. my fucking ISP's proxy. nevermind.. *grumble* : ThrillKill

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  Who knows? If Trent is smart, he won't write about it. : mulu
  • And in 2 weeks he announces he'll be doing the soundtrack for DK2! : iamgoat
  • Probably. Again much like Paul Steed's firing we will probably never know the actual facts. That's probab... : pillzer