Breed Demo

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• 1.4 athlon, 192 MB ram, Radeon 8500... game ran fine at 1024x768... : GloriousCow
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  no shit. Every single fps I play, usually always has something wrong with it. Quake3 had the invisibility... : zero3
  • hehe, Valve fixed a bug in TFC similar to the MOHAA one, and the fix was years ago. : the archvile
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  http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=9431 It's the game technology lag And it's not abou... : The Key
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    I just find it interesting my 400mhz gamecube with sub GeForce3 technology pumps out smoother animation a... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
    • The basic issue here is that PC programmers have to target a huge variety of hardware configurations at a... : wbagwell
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      That Gamecube has a SGI processor.. We're not talking your normal x86 processor. Intel != AMD != Powe... : loco3kgt
      • It's a PowerPC genious. Still were talking 2ghz vs 400mhz. : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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  Nice sweeping generalization about a subject that you seem to know little about. : Fred Garvin
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    Fred go download your latest PC game and tell me how great the animation and framerate is. IMO it is subp... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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      Yeah, your poor performance experience is indicative of all PC programmers. We had instances where 2 seem... : Fred Garvin
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        Don't take it personal Fred i'm not slamming against you, i don't even know wtf your working on (if you a... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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          The average PC programmer isnt given enough time and resources to do a kick ass job. And they're working ... : Topaz
          • How do you know they don't get enough time? I understand the non static platform but I personally feel it... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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          I'm not taking it personally, I just think you are off the mark. There are so many variables involved and... : Fred Garvin
          • Ok well take my example about the breed demo. From what i've seen UT2k3 pushes as much if not more detail... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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            *Gamegoof waves at fellow game dev and laughs* Dont you just love this industry? And know-it-all fans ... : gamegoof
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              hahahahahah look at my example and please explain it to me then. And say what you will about me not kn... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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                I'm not a dev, but how the fuck do you know what data is being processed in Breed compared to UT2k3 or any other game for that matter? Isn't it possible it's more cpu intensive than UT2k3 due to other things being processed besides just graphics? (i.e., AI, physics, objects on the map, etc.).
                
                I know nuclear engineers and pharmacists but that really does make me any more knowledgeable on either subject.

                May 23, 2003 2:51pm PDT
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                I'm not a dev, but how the fuck do you know what data is being processed in Breed compared to UT2k3 or an... : Sludgehead
                • er, does=doesn't : Sludgehead
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                  Yes that is possible, but from MY EXPERIENCE of playing breed, I don't see what could be making it run 50... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
                  • I understand that but just because you don't see what could be doing it doesn't mean it's crap code. I h... : Sludgehead
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                Depends what the engine is trying to do. How does the lighting work, what's the AI doing, when do resourc... : Fred Garvin
                • Marketing and publishers will be the absolute DEATH of the PC games industry. My take on it? Time for ind... : three-d
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                Man, it could be ANYTHING -Maybe UT is using DX8, and Breed is using DX9, pushing more polygons that ... : gamegoof
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                  Angry rant doesnt read too well second time around... oh well : gamegoof
                  • i thought it was a good read. Get back to building that world! : ease_one
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              and if you must know, i know people at interplay & nihilistic. Interplay who makes PC and console games (... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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                Interplay is a publisher for the most part. Pretty well any engine they use internally comes from elsewhe... : Fred Garvin
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                  When i say interplay I mean multiple people at blackisle, and older people who no longer work for bioware... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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                    Dude, you realize that Black Isle is in California and BioWare is in Alberta, Canada right? : Fred Garvin
                    • Yes i do, people who used to work at bioware are allowed to move right? : SERIOUSly the SAMe
                    • I live in california just a fyi. An old friend of mine moved up north to work at nihilistic back in the v... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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  DirectX usually promotes laziness... Of course, there are exceptions. : Colin Higgins
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    How do you come to this conclusion? APIs promote laziness in general or just DX? Would you prefer everyth... : Fred Garvin
    • I don't believe it is API's. No way games today can be written in 100% assembly. But there is no "general... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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      Well, personally, I figure if the developer can code in Assembly, he's probably a decent coder. Anybody c... : Colin Higgins
      • That's such a blatant oversimplification. If anyone can do it then point me to your full featured DX grap... : Fred Garvin
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  I was about to say that maybe it's just VERY HARD to make games today and there aren't that many people c... : gl2 drivers
  • man that's such a stupid argument gl2. Are you a director, screenwriter in real life? My guess is no yet ... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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  Marketing logic: cool stuff/shots > fps. You can rationalize that people will have faster computers one ... : P-Squid
  • Ya I feel that is a part of it, however isn't the PC market slipping in sales the last year? I thought i ... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
  • I'm not so sure the avg. gamer notices. We're the hardcore crowd, we notice stuff in the blink of an eye.... : Madwacker
  • or that once you sell the product you already have their money so who cares? : ease_one
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  This is getting to be quite the argument. I see what Seriously is trying to say, and I have to agree that... : ieGod
  • Thank you iegod. That is exactly what i'm trying to say. It is NOT just hardware setup. CLEARLY good prog... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
  • Same thing with consoles. Some games with little AI, simple gameplay and not a lot of variety in textures... : Fred Garvin
• I think game developers should just work harder. I mean If they would just stop sleeping maybe there wou... : ease_one