Chaser Demo

funky ai, i hid in an alley cos i was low on ammo, and 5 bad guys closed in on me, taking possition, damn it was cool

I’m not sure what everyone’s complaining about, the demo was fun for me. The weapons are responsive and look pretty cool, but the best part for me was the maps. So much detail, and it runs well on my old comp with everything maxed except shadows and res, which is more than I can say for the U2 and EF2 demos. My favourite part was the city, which is probably the most atmospheric map I’ve played in any game. I really don’t mind the difficulty when I’m playing in maps this nice. If the rest of the maps match up to that (instead of the boring sewer section) then I’ll probably buy it.

pretty fun, nothing amazing in terms of gameplay, some people will complain about how insanely hard it is, it is pretty hard, but if you use adrenaline mode and just headshot people its easier, i dont like the almost constant supply of enemies jumping out from everywhere.. i tihnk it was a bad idea putting the sewer part first, i couldnt find where to exit it because of how the ladder blends in with the wall, had to bump gamma up halfway.. but for whatever reason i was compelled to play through the entire demo, cool ending, voice acting kinda blah, nice animations though, need pure ragdoll, the models kind of just rotate when on edges and look like they are laying on a flat plank of wood.
turn off eax2 if you cant hear enemy gunshots/voices...

Hmm. Mixed feelings on this one. REALLY nice engine IMO, nice looking and FAST. Looks a lot like what New World Order was trying to be. Other than the engine work and the weapon models/level art, this game doesn't have much going for it. The bad guys make no noise whatsoever, very frustrating, makes it very hard to track bullets to their source, the main character has this tinny, electronic sounding voice that he only uses to yell very quietly. It's rather hard, and there's only one bad guy model for the whole level apparently.

It's too bad this engine is wasted on a 'near future decayed urban setting' game like Devastation. It'd be nice to see someone use this for some Sci-Fi action or something, but as it is, I have to say the game has 0 appeal to me.

man you guys got it all wrong, this is a VERY GOOD game. the engine is super smooth and theres substance there. play for more than 1 min btw.

I'm damn impressed and wasnt looking for anything special.

Yawn. Demos like this are why Im buying a PS2 tommorow. PC games lately are are 'meh' it seems like.

there are under water crates!

the game is alright, everything seems to blocky and buggy.

i really didn't enjoy it. done it all before

this game feels like a really good mod but not good enough to stand on its own feet. while i applaud the effort and enjoy rooting for the underdog, i wouldn't buy this. maybe multiplayer would change my mind.

Ok i just started playing and the water reflections are cool. Then I realize the water is reflecting the metal gates...only there are no metal gates at the end of the first corridor. Anyone else seeing this? The reflections are right in the begining but then as you start to explore to an L junction with no gates, the water still shows them as beign there...Im confused?

Okay, not too bad. Overall thoughts:

Good stuff:
1) Water. Pretty. Looks great. Shooting into the water is a great effect.
2) Soundtrack. The music was well done. Fit into the game well.
3) I thought the weapon models were pretty well done. I liked the knife twirl when switching to a new weapon. Reload animation was good.
4) Ambience was nice. Felt like a sewer. Non-intrusive hud.
5) Things got pretty tough outside. Not sure if it was fun, though.

Bad stuff:
1) The jumping. Worst. Jump. Simulation. Evar. Did the development team even use the jump key? It's worthless. Developers, it should be higher, and for some reason, it's difficult to jump forward. Made for real annoyances with the ENGINE not the GAMEPLAY.
2) Head bob. Felt like I was floating through the level. Need a more realistic walk.
3) Boxes. Level designer, when you're placing boxes all over the MFing map, think to yourself "would these bad guys really need to stack boxes in the middle of the pathway like this?" and "Would they leave boxes as ladders in every pool?" The boxes were annoying, and just made for slowing the gameplay down. The scenery should enhace the gameplay and story, not make it just a challenge in itself. More realism, less stupid crap.
4) Sounds could use some beef to them. They sounded tinny.
5) Men respawning from a corridor that I just came from that has no other entrances. I clear out a room, walk around a corner and a guy shoots me in the back. C'mon. Challenge me. That's just fucking stupid.
6) The ladder that you cannot climb.
7) Badguy animation. Too robotic like. Also had no head bob. They just kinda reverse-moonwalked around.

Overall it feels like it's almost there. The stuff I pointed out is really basic stuff. I hope the developers read this crap.

Deus Ex, minus story, decent writing and voice acting, and RPG elements. Sprinkle on a dash of god-like AI aim and poor/nonexistent damage feedback, and a 6-inch jump height.

Man, what a shitty jumping puzzle. And come on--why is the ladder "climbable" area about 2 inches wide?

To its credit, the menus are nice. Music is OK, and the engine seems solid. Decent environment mapping and night vision effects, Red Faction's light halos, and Trespasser player physics. Sweet.

Ahh... hrmm. I'll just do it like this...

good
-water effects definatly better than Unreal Engine's
-lighting is nice

not so good
-cyborg ninjas = boring
-sounds are mediocre at best
-level is boring... not exciting
-weapon effects / models are so-so

bad
-jumping. Chaser devs: take a look at the free Quake soure code or something =\

Hopefully this is based on an early beta, because after that..I'm not spending anything more than $10-15 on this game.

I liked it until I got stuck in a wall. Then I in baleeted it.

I like the graphics, great job. I dont like the mindless enemies that spawn all over, including places you have already been.

This is reality gameing taken to it's logical conclusion. "Real World" levels where everything blends in and the entire game is player knowledge or bot-like aim. Sorry, I'm not a super-agent. I want to play one in a game and feel like I have super-agent powers. If I wanted to be a super-agent I wouldn't have spent my teen years eating junk food and playing games. These First-Person Simulators need to start billing themselves as such so I can avoid them like all the other simulators that aren't fun.

A night level was probably a poor choice for a demo. Being shot at from dark windows half a block away is no way to capture a gamers attention unless you want bad attention. The control and feel of the weapons are good. Kinda like an action only version of Deus Ex.

Really what it comes down to is the infrastrucure for a good game is pretty much there. The execution on the design side, however, is seriously lacking. In the end that makes this a run-of-the-mill shooter with some decent AI engineering, and artistically detailed environments. Nothing to warrant paying more than bargin bin prices for.

So how does this compare to recent FPS games?

Better than the Elite Force 2 demo?
Better than Unreal 2?
Better than Halo?
Better than sex?

wow urban combat is a bitch. this demo is frustrating as hell but also a lot of fun. give it a try if youve got fast pipe

Ok that has to be the worst level ever to stick in a demo. Either I'm really stupid or theres no way out of the sewer.

wait for it, wait for it.....MEH

The bar Half-Life raised must be hard to meet. Bad physics, boring gameplay, no reason for fighting.

Since there isn't any gameplay to rant on, might as well comment on the graphics: the water shader is pretty cheap...

ok first impressions

good
runs smooth
good amount of stuff to break (signs, boarded up windows, badguys)
physics are decent, shot a guy and he fell off a ledge, or into the water with a splsh
water: go full auto on it and you'll understand

bad
nothing really new
the: hey look at us we're sneaky ninjas falling out of the sky to shoot at you, gets old
jumping, its a lil better when you run but just feels wrong

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all in all its decent but uninspiring, not going to make it into my small game budget from what I've seen so far, doesn't really bring anything new to the table, feels quite a bit like sof2 to me for some reason

It's okay; like Red Faction should've been. Sounds are very weak (most of them sound straight out of the same SFX libraries used for SoF2 RTCW, et cetera), and sometimes mistimed and/or misrepresented (the FAMAS firing sound is waaay too fast, and the M4 sounds goofy). I pray that the sounds are just placeholders.

There's not enough guttural, visceral feel to the game either (something SoF2 actually had). No splats, dripping blood, and especially no post-mortem damage feedback, which should be a given nowadays (this game has blood, so they're not aiming for a teen rating). Visuals are pretty good; lots of env mapping, good texture gradient control, and good use of contrast (come on guys, you should be gaming in a dark room!). However, I didn't find a single hinged door that I could open; not good.

Your weapons in the demo (up to halfway through the second level):
FAMAS with underbarrel GL http://www.overburned.com/arch/chaser/famasgren.jpg (the grenades fly straight out of the barrel instantaneously; weird for an HL or SoF2 veteran to experience)
Sig pistol http://www.overburned.com/arch/chaser/sig.jpg (standard pistol; excellent for medium distance headshots taken at known targets from behind cover)
Ingram MAC-10 http://www.overburned.com/arch/chaser/ingram.jpg (interestingly, it has a semi-auto setting, which I don't think the real-life gun has)

And yes, there's a bit of ragdoll corpse, but sometimes it's goofy: http://www.overburned.com/arch/chaser/oops.jpg

As it is, I wouldn't spring for this at $50; maybe if it was $30 or less on a bargain shelf.

That screenshot with the Red Armored guy reminds me how much I want a new Crusader: game.....

Seems to have a decent engine, with some nice water and shadow effects. The street scene is in ruins and they put alot of detail into broken buildings and debris. I'm not blown away by the graphics, but I'm not bored by it either.
Pretty fast paced, and you can't just run in a direction because enemies are hiding everywhere. Enemy AI seems alright too. They shoot, then duck back for cover. If you try to hide behind a corner to reload or breathe, they will advance on you. I died a couple times on "normal".
Skip the tutorial, btw. You already know how to play this game. Simple movement controls, primary fire/alt fire, crouch key lets you jump higher, etc.

looks pretty good, but i dont know how well its really going to do...

is it me or is the jumping the worst ever in a game?

say you can jump 4 feet horizontally

you jump 4 feet at a 45 degree angle / and then fall straight down

Very nice demo indeed, looks beautiful, plays great. Not munch point in comparing this to unreal 2 as that had 0 gameplay value.

I like it.

Apart from enemies just poping up out of thin air guns blazing, which basically takes away playing with stealth.

Quite nice, on-par or slightly bellow Unreal2 gfx, loving the water/lighting fx,
could be fun in MP

Where did this game come from? Never heard of it.

.torrent mirror anyone?

Played it, all the way through, and gotta say it's pretty good - if you're not bothered with trigger-spawning enemies and that sorts of stuff. Has some very nice bullet time shit in it and also the engine is pretty nice and runs at an incredible framerate with better watereffects than the Unreal engine pumps out. Though it's not as next-gen as the Unreal engine is, it is really smooth and polished.

so what is this about? why should i care?

anyone know what engine this is on? it looks pretty decent.

okay this is odd...when i go to play the game it runs through all the publisher and dev team logos, then it just drops me back to the desktop...hmm...short demo =)

I might as well be a guinea pig; downloading...

Is this supposed to be good, or another dud?

Wooo tennis courts... and that gun from goldeneye? ... and CS' HUD!