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Next 2015 Game Announced

by Maarten Goldstein, Jan 22, 2003 3:23pm PST

Related Topics – Men of Valor, Vivendi

Vivendi Universal Games sent out this press release, announcing that they will be publishing the next game by 2015 (the guys behind Medal of Honor: Allied Assault). This new first person shooter is called Men of Valor: Vietnam, and will be released on PC and Xbox in 2004. Instead of using the Quake 3 engine like they did with Allied Assault, 2015 will use the Unreal engine for Men of Valor.

"With Medal of Honor Allied Assault, 2015 took steps towards developing a new type of first- person shooter that highlighted the excitement and danger of military conflict during World War II. Rather than place the player in the role of a traditional first-person shooter, the player was made to experience the vulnerability and heroism of the soldier taking part in a great crusade," said Tom Kudirka, President, 2015, Inc. "In the same way, Men of Valor: Vietnam aims to recreate the tension, risk, and excitement of the jungle battlefields of the Vietnam War."

More info here. Update: The first screenshots

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Try checking out the first site for Men of Valor: Vietnam

http://www.movv.com

Jan 29, 2003 1:11am PST

Try checking out the first site for Men of Valor: Vietnam http://www.movv.com : Cpt. Baseballbat

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Finally, no more Q3 engine games. And this is the first big franchise that changes the engine from id to epic. (ok, there is this piece of vaporware..u know :D)
But the screenies look photoshop-made. No "deep" in these pics.

Jan 23, 2003 5:35am PST

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What happened to the game industry? I swear I remember that 9/10 popular games used to at least feature organic (players, characters, creatures) models that were not just acceptable but were outstanding; nowadays there seem to be alot of medicore modelers getting work - must be the sheer number of games produced while the number of dedicated model artists hasn't grown... just saying this as a game artist who makes a point of really examining visuals - not saying visuals are the end-all be-all.

I think these and the MOH:AA models were mediocre and the artists need more figure drawing and anatomy yo.

Jan 22, 2003 4:40pm PST

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"In the same way, Men of Valor: Vietnam aims to recreate the tension, risk, and excitement of the jungle battlefields of the Vietnam War."

Cool so you'll be able to take acid, smoke pot out of your rifle, torch small villages and rape women just like in Vietnam?

Jan 22, 2003 8:03pm PST

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" Were using the Unreal engine"

Translation:

"Hey Carmack, keep making cramped engines, meanwhile the rest of the planet
will be using better and bigger tech, merci"

Love Id stuff and all, but really since Tribes, BF1942 and OFP, the case has
been made for wide open gameplay. Hopefully Carmack has an answer after
Doom3 that aint "Doom Arena with more hallways and dungeons."

And if youre going to try and flame me, try and use something better than
"Tribes2>!!<<! Lorfoo D00d, CS wuz BettER than T2, T2 ranN likeSHit On mYY momS
DEll 200mhz, CS FUREVERr KeWLKtHxbYE"

Jan 22, 2003 4:01pm PST

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This game looks to be sweet even if only judging from Allied Assault. My only problem is with the name.... Men of Valor? Come on. This war was so controversial that even the best war heroes didn't get respect. It just seems like a combination of 2 unlikely words- Vietnam war and valor.

Jan 23, 2003 6:44am PST

This game looks to be sweet even if only judging from Allied Assault. My only problem is with the name...... : shredder133

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My little thoughts:

1. No more 'Men of Scripts'. No.

2. Out in next year? Must overcome Doom 3 visually.

3. Maybe just me but ppl are getting sick of one war being depicted over and over and over again. Do it quick.

Jan 22, 2003 5:30pm PST

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  regarding #2 up there, No it does not. It's been proven again and again, with games like HL/CS, BF1942, t... : TPSReport
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What's the deal with the stock of that dude's .60 going THROUGH his shoulder? You'd think they'd notice something like that before releasing the ss.

I just wanna know if I can get some little mamasan to love me long time and give me painful VD .

Jan 22, 2003 8:12pm PST

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I am Gunnery Sargeant Hartman, your senior drill instructor. From now on you will speak only when spoken to. And the first and last word out of your filthy sewers will be "Sir". Do you maggots understand that?

Jan 22, 2003 11:34pm PST

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- Sir, yes sir! : nudel

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Like this post said: http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=6536370 , this is NOT THE SAME group of people that did MoH, all the original 2015 team (apart from a programmer and Tom Kudirka) left 2015 and started a new game company called Ã¢Â€Â˜Infinity WardÃ¢Â€Â™ ( http://www.infinityward.com ) well some (3 I think) mappers went to Ritual.

So donÃ¢Â€Â™t expect the same kind of MoH quality with this title, wait for Infinity Ward's new game, what ever that may be.

Jan 22, 2003 7:26pm PST

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Is this the orginal unreal engine, or the new engine?

Jan 22, 2003 8:46pm PST

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  supposed to be new, but its not too impressive... lotta of the same trees and stuff if you look in the sh... : street crazy
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    yah i noticed that, its why i asked. Thanks for clearing that up though. hmm...viet cong looks beter so f... : Silent Wolf
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      Errrm, they still got a year goof nuts. You guys are judging it before its even finished. LOL : wolfen420

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Does no one read the entire info anymore?

"The game will support a cooperative mode that allows the player to experience the entire tour of duty with his friends..."

That makes the game a must have right there, assuming they don't cancel co-op halfway through.

Jan 22, 2003 5:07pm PST

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world war II is done now, so it's time to move onto Vietnam. Next will be Korea maybe, and then we'll be playing the Gulf War series (wars one and two) by 2010

Jan 22, 2003 3:55pm PST

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So... another shooter based on less than modern warfare. Hmm. I think MOH and RTCW and BF1942 got that out of my system... Who knows, maybe I'll be in the mood for a game like this in 6 months, but right now I'd have to say it looks pretty humdrum.

Good foilage though.
"No mom, it's 'foliage'."
"No Lisa, foilage."

Jan 22, 2003 8:53pm PST

So... another shooter based on less than modern warfare. Hmm. I think MOH and RTCW and BF1942 got that o... : Dynotaku

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I have yet to find a game that's set in the Vietnam era that is worth anything. I hate to say this, but Battlefield 1968 would be a good start.

Jan 22, 2003 8:06pm PST

I have yet to find a game that's set in the Vietnam era that is worth anything. I hate to say this, but B... : Phreakin

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I'm tired of these war games; is this how you pay respect to the thousands of U.S soldiers, and the millions of North Vietnamese who died during the war -- by making a video game?

Jan 22, 2003 5:24pm PST

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- heh? so people shouldn t make games nor movies about vietnam nor wars in general cause they are both made... : Cpt. Baseballbat
- Pay respect to the NVA? WTF is wrong with you? : sliver

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Two screenshot from this that really stands out for me:

http://www.shacknews.com/screens.x/mov/Men+of+Valor:+Vietnam/1/thumbs/mov17.jpg LOOK AT THOSE WATER!

http://www.shacknews.com/screens.x/mov/Men+of+Valor:+Vietnam/1/thumbs/mov19.jpg I now have faith in trees again.

Jan 22, 2003 7:58pm PST

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im guessing this game will have 0 blood + gibs ?

Jan 22, 2003 4:39pm PST

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- Of course, haven't you heard? Vietnam was rated T for Teen. : esky

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too bad all but four of the people who worked on MOH quit 2015 just after Medal of Honor shipped, So almost all of the MOH team are making games somewhere else. I wonder what kind of game we'll see from them.

oh and what lovely green jeans american GI's wore back then. is that the same pose on hime in al those shots? almost like he was placed there. mmmm gameplay

Jan 22, 2003 4:19pm PST

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- Duh. Didn't you know they wore green jeans in Vietnam? Just like they wore khakis during the Gulf War. ... : loco3kgt
- hmmm...I wonder as well. : Cygnus X-1
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Refreshing. New war. New engine. Thank god. The Unreal tech is the best for this kind of thing I think. Although the BF engine would be intriguing as well. I would like to see a SP game with the BF engine.
If they were smart they would do a sound track VICE CITY style and license some cool music from that time.

Jan 22, 2003 4:49pm PST

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/me thinks Unreal engine has something to do with xbox exclusive. hint hint splinter cell

Jan 22, 2003 4:16pm PST

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I would prefer a Civil War FPS game. They've done enough on the RTS front with the Civil War. Why not an FPS? It would be cool to have team coop to load a cannon and fire it.

Jan 22, 2003 4:01pm PST

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can you say "bargain bin"?

Jan 22, 2003 5:47pm PST

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- no i can't. The MoH team w/ the latest Unreal engine = Kickass! : []v[]adwacker

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WOW! Impressive screenshots. I hope it plays as good as it looks, if so were in for a treat.

Jan 22, 2003 5:55pm PST

WOW! Impressive screenshots. I hope it plays as good as it looks, if so were in for a treat. : sweet0001

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A m1 Carbine in the Vietnam war? :O

http://www.shacknews.com/screens.x/mov/Men+of+Valor:+Vietnam/1/thumbs/mov17.jpg

yes I realize these are pretty early shots of the game..

Jan 22, 2003 5:23pm PST

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Yeah! Kill gooks!

god damn the racist, arrogant, hypocritical, and stupid americans. god damn them and put them in hellfire.

Jan 22, 2003 5:06pm PST

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"and excitement of the jungle battlefields of the Vietnam War."
Umm, not sure if excitement is the word I'd use... I'm sure this game will rock tho

Jan 22, 2003 3:29pm PST

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looks awesome

Jan 22, 2003 5:40pm PST

looks awesome : tomservo

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Tension, okay. Risk, you bet. Excitement? Um... well, maybe being in a war is "exciting" on some level, what do I know. Sure a game can be, but I'm not sure if worrying about getting your ass shot off in some blistering hot jungle, serving your country on some misdirected quest against communism can be considered exciting.

Jan 22, 2003 5:29pm PST

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Cool.. coulda been a better choice of engines though.

Jan 22, 2003 3:24pm PST

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I just hope this one has a real ending. . .. . . .. THE END.

Jan 22, 2003 5:15pm PST

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M-14 pwnage.

Jan 22, 2003 5:15pm PST

M-14 pwnage. : cygnus

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I used this gun back in 'nam.

Jan 22, 2003 5:08pm PST

I used this gun back in 'nam. : kramweil

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Wow.. Looks great

Jan 22, 2003 4:49pm PST

Wow.. Looks great : diehlr

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those character models are in dire need of a reskinning

Jan 22, 2003 4:32pm PST

those character models are in dire need of a reskinning : Adrenaline

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I hope there's an helicopter mission that lets you kill women and children.

GET SOME! GET SOME! GET SOME!

Jan 22, 2003 4:02pm PST

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All I want in this game if to be able to smoke some MARY JANE!!! oh that baby MARY JANE my love....So much that I love you...UNF!!!

Jan 22, 2003 4:24pm PST

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On other news...I thought the guys who made medal of honor all left? http://www.pcvsconsole.com/news/news.php?nid=1471

Jan 22, 2003 4:23pm PST

On other news...I thought the guys who made medal of honor all left? http://www.pcvsconsole.com/news/news... : Cpt. Baseballbat

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More power to them so long as they have
(1) Blood
(2) Real voice acting
(3) Enemy AI! Yes, AI > Scripted sequences.

Jan 22, 2003 4:14pm PST

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I sure hope they mean the unreal 2 engine.. Unreal 1 engine sux.

Jan 22, 2003 4:05pm PST

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