E3 2002 Impressions

by Maarten Goldstein, May 27, 2002 9:26am PDT

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How will doom do with a 1,100 mhz athlon & gf3....they should some benchmark if id software is smart..

May 27, 2002 5:16pm PDT

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How will doom do with a 1,100 mhz athlon & gf3....they should some benchmark if id software is smart.. : sm00th
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  My home dev system is a 1ghz Dell ( dual proc ), with a GF3. It runs fine, although I rarely run the... : raduffy
  - interesting... maybe my old dog of a system will still yet suffice for a bit longer! : [andromeda]
- Carmack showed DOOM way back on an Apple G4 (around 600 MHz?) and a GeForce 3... : jokerman

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did you get to see Planetside at all Maarten? I'm guessing not since everyone said it was, well, kind of hidden....

May 27, 2002 10:56am PDT

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did you get to see Planetside at all Maarten? I'm guessing not since everyone said it was, well, kind of... : Jedi SeXpansion
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  isnt rogue13 working on that? : anti-orp
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    Verant and SOE : Jedi SeXpansion
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      Speaking of Verant and SOE, I heard some nasty facts at this years E3. The Blizzard guys were *BANN... : xian
      
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      interesting. That's really shitty. But I don't think Christ himself could keep me away from Planetside... : Jedi SeXpansion
      
      "But I don't think Christ himself could keep me away from Planetside..." : Ripley
- nope sure didnt see that. : Maarten Goldstein

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Maarten, what is the significance of the "Doom exe is 3.7 megs" comment?

May 27, 2002 5:14pm PDT

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Maarten, what is the significance of the "Doom exe is 3.7 megs" comment? : Magitek
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- just a joke between him and me mostly.. we were trying to come up with things that we could cover and me... : Steve Gibson
- i was about to ask the same thing:o : Ripley

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Deus Ex 2 is using the original Unreal engine?

sigh

May 27, 2002 10:11am PDT

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Deus Ex 2 is using the original Unreal engine? sigh : mr brown
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  no but it's not called Unreal Warfare. Unreal engine is just always ever evolving. I put latest in front... : Maarten Goldstein
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    The guy that I talked to, I think he was the executive producer, told me that it was a modified version ... : G0aTCheeZ
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      yeah i know that developers like to call it that to impress people. but since unreal warfare isnt out, e... : Maarten Goldstein
      
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      The disapointing thing about your Deus Ex 2 article, Maarten, is that you said Ion ADDED bump mapping. ... : Dynotaku
      
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      This was already known, I believe. : Foozmelon
      
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      Well, not to me, obviously. And I've read EVERY Unreal related article that's been posted. Pretty mu... : Dynotaku
      
      I've been through this before. There was no mention on the Unreal Tech page of bump mapping, and it's on... : Foozmelon
      
      the Y-Project, which also uses Warfare tech, has bump mapping as well. I was told that Weska (the develo... : jason bergman
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  deus ex 2 looks fantabulous, thanks to the lighting engine, and the physics engine just exaggerates that... : Gauss
  - in some shots dx2 look like amateur 3d renderings, which for a game is pretty good. Character rendering... : tribes2

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What happened to valve attending e3 ? i guess that went to shit...or they are going for something big and surprising

May 27, 2002 5:17pm PDT

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What happened to valve attending e3 ? i guess that went to shit...or they are going for something big and... : sm00th
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- They'll be at E3 2004 : Magitek

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No Kohan II lovin'. Dang.

May 27, 2002 12:09pm PDT

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No Kohan II lovin'. Dang. : Kiriakos
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- funny... I wanted specifically to meet the timegate guys turns out they were there, and meeting with ... : Gauss

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Is it just me or is it surprising that there aren't any "original" games on tap for the foreseeable future?

Case in point: here are the titles that are supposedly coming out soon or have just been released.

Soldier of fortune II
Doom III
Unreal 2
Unreal Tournament 2003
Half-Life II
Team Fortress II
No One Lives Forever II
Star Trek: Elite Force 2
Deus Ex 2
Duke Nukem Forever

And so on and so forth. I am personally looking forward to EVERY one of these games, don't get me wrong. Also, I realize it's completely posssible (and likely) that all of these games will have very original components to them, however its always more fun to play a game with a new universe, new design, etc.

Maybe it has to do with developers/studios reluctance to grant money towards unproven franchises, and this is the result.

May 27, 2002 2:33pm PDT

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Is it just me or is it surprising that there aren't any "original" games on tap for the foreseeable futur... : veggie
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  Maybe you should consider this.. try if you can, to count the number of games that have come out over th... : darkblade
  - I hear what you are saying, and I don't take offense. Maybe I should have said "there are mostly sequels... : veggie

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Where is The Gibson's impressions and all his cool 'Look at the exclusive Doom stuff I got because id loves me more than everybody else and I'm pretty' stuff?

May 27, 2002 3:05pm PDT

Where is The Gibson's impressions and all his cool 'Look at the exclusive Doom stuff I got because id lov... : johnny rotten

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I'm guessing the G7 will be out by the time DOOM3 ships. That means there's we still have a G5 and G6 (souped up G5) coming 6 and 12 months from now. G6 + DOOM3 xmas 2003?

May 27, 2002 2:43pm PDT

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I'm guessing the G7 will be out by the time DOOM3 ships. That means there's we still have a G5 and G6 (so... : Topaz
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- Apple tends to ride their architecures for at LEAST a year. : johnny rotten

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Just saw the 11 min doom3 avi. Pretty good stuff! Favorite part: the sounds made when monsters rip bodies apart-- so squelchy and horrible! The graphic quality was good, though it's hard to tell on a ShakyCam--makes the colors look all washed out, brown & grey. Hopefully the game will look a little less drab than that poor-quality video makes it look.

Never really got too frightened or got into the whole pulse-pounding fear thing, maybe it's different in-booth. I definitely am hoping there's some times in the game where there's just way too many enemies coming at you at once, though balancing that with sections that looked like this video would be fine.

Overall: a little less impressive than I'd hoped, but I'm willing to believe most of that is due to the ShakyCam nature of the footage. Definitely still interested in Doom3, it looks like it will be cool.

May 27, 2002 10:43am PDT

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Just saw the 11 min doom3 avi. Pretty good stuff! Favorite part: the sounds made when monsters rip bodi... : Zero|DPX
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wHAT ABOUT brute force for the XBOX? I am most excited about this game frioim the show.. ANYTHING???

May 27, 2002 1:06pm PDT

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wHAT ABOUT brute force for the XBOX? I am most excited about this game frioim the show.. ANYTHING??? : g.lee
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- http://www.shacknews.com/extras/e3dayone.x : hunterkiller

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i thought this years e3 was the bomb

May 27, 2002 9:27am PDT

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i thought this years e3 was the bomb : phyre
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- Somebody set us up the this-years-E3. :) : Dynotaku

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I think the most positive thing to come out of this year's E3 isn't any specific game really (obviously Doom was cool) but the fact that PC games are making a comeback. The last two years the show has been dominated by console titles, and the PC realm was just a huge void.

Right on....

May 27, 2002 12:20pm PDT

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I think the most positive thing to come out of this year's E3 isn't any specific game really (obviously D... : veggie
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- yeah, pc games are forming into a different breed then before : archon

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anyone ask id about an xbox port of the DOOM? I know Carmack has metioned it before and said it was likely, but that was a year ago and things may have changed spec wise...?

May 27, 2002 12:14pm PDT

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anyone ask id about an xbox port of the DOOM? I know Carmack has metioned it before and said it was likel... : hunterkiller
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- GameSpy first DOOM article said the PC was the only definite port right now. and Duffy just said that... : sharkII

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was shadowbane even shown at all... wtf

May 27, 2002 12:29pm PDT

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was shadowbane even shown at all... wtf : Ripley
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- yeah. but you know, for that game, asheron's call 2, world of warcraft, etc, its really hard to give imp... : Maarten Goldstein

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Is Raven really using their own terrain engine with Elite Forces 2? I thought it was simply the Team Arena Engine with higher polycounts? I may be a f00 tho.

May 27, 2002 9:37am PDT

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  well first of all it's Ritual working on EF2. And yeah, they wrote their own. : Maarten Goldstein
  - yeah, um Ritual :) heh : moshman

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..hmm yeah..you don't want a GeForce 4 if you want to go all out graphics wise.

So does that mean we need to wait for the GeForce 5, or will a GeForce 3 be sufficient? I can't imagine not wanting a GF4, unless there was something a lot better to buy.

The running demo was on ATI's latest and even that had some slowdowns once in a while.

I've heard rumors of something called the ATI R300. Is that what they were using? I havent' seen any sites covering that chipset yet... unless that's just what the latest Radeon cores are called, and I'm just stupid. In any case, that's a pretty big coup for ATI to have their card be id's hardware of choice for the demo.

May 27, 2002 10:28am PDT

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..hmm yeah..you don't want a GeForce 4 if you want to go all out graphics wise. So does that mean we n : Dynotaku
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  Thats the next release of ATi. Not ready yet.... : pimpium
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    Well, I hope it's something ferociously powerful. It's nice that nVidia has some competition these days... : Dynotaku
    - If all the reviews say that this ATI card performs better than the nVidia card in Doom when it comes out... : veggie
- just wait until the game has a release date, and then buy whatever the top of the line card is at that t... : jason bergman

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Maarten did you basically stay away from the console stuff? I'd like to hear if you have anything to say about Metroid Prime, Zelda, etc.

May 27, 2002 10:40am PDT

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  Metroid Prime looks like a fun game. I have no experience with the platform Metroid games though, so I c... : Maarten Goldstein
  - as pretty as sTeve? : anti-orp

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Glad to hear Unreal 2 is looking awesome...and I don't mean just graphics although that's always nice. I think Legend is really gonna do well with this game.

May 27, 2002 10:01am PDT

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- it's a shame they didn't make more of a big deal about it, what with Doom III blowing everyone away. : veggie

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a 3.7meg .exe file.......shiz

May 27, 2002 9:57am PDT

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a 3.7meg .exe file.......shiz : redfive
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  I don't seem to grasp why that is a big deal. Can someone enlighten me? : MarksmanX

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see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Now we must add, type no evil. Shit, hell, piss, whats the devil to do.

May 27, 2002 9:56am PDT

see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Now we must add, type no evil. Shit, hell, piss, whats the devi : firehand

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would any of these videos happen to be the DOOM III Video shown inside the Activision booth?

May 27, 2002 9:42am PDT

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would any of these videos happen to be the DOOM III Video shown inside the Activision booth? : carpediem
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- hehe.. dream on kid :) : Lethal01
- either I downloaded that last night, or it was stupid to put someones head in the corner... : sharkII

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Deus Ex 2... as far as realism and environment, sounds like its gonna be improved by 100x :)

May 27, 2002 9:42am PDT

Deus Ex 2... as far as realism and environment, sounds like its gonna be improved by 100x :) : tomservo

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