PS2 Linux
by Steve Gibson, Jan 30, 2002 6:59am PSTWell it's happened, Sony has announced the release of Linux for Playstation2 kits. It's a pretty darn good deal too, even if you arent a linux fan just to get all the nifty hardware. The number of uses this can provide are almost limitless, and if anyone is gonna come up with some wacky stuff, it's the linux fruits. Here's the list of stuff you get for $199.
-- Internal hard disk drive for PlayStation 2 (HDD) with 40 GB capacity -- Network Adaptor (Ethernet) (for PlayStation 2) with 100 Base T Ethernet interface -- USB Keyboard and mouse (for PlayStation 2) -- Linux Kernel version 2.2.1 (with USB device support) -- "Linux (for PlayStation 2)" Version 1.0 software distribution on two DVDs -- gcc 2.95.2 and glibc 2.2.2 with VU assemblers -- XFree86 3.3.6 with PlayStation 2 GS support -- Computer monitor adaptor (for PlayStation 2) (with audio connectors)Should be interesting to see if any guys manage to get some 3D games up and running on this thing.
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I did unfortunately hear that despite the PS2's power it really does have some major hurdles, such as being hard to code for, very very low res textures (vs the competition) and a few other limitations (like chips that can't be fully utilised because of some silly reason) etc.
Could be wrong, but I believe (long shot) that the Xbox hardware or even the GC could do far better than the PS2 with linux on it.
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Could AOL be developing a Linux operating system shell for the PS2 (and any future PS2 set-top boxes)?
If so, they could release a new version of the PS2 say around next christmas, all set to run like a PC, with AOLinux preinstalled.
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They're trying to trick you. Wake up. Ta-da.
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I'm not talking big games or anything, just rinky-dink 3d crap and possibly a little tile engine or something.
-next year, for Advanced Topics Computer Science, we were planning on maybe trying to program a dreamcast game...now we can program a PS2 game :D
-hard drive + ethernet (might just go for this bundle if I'm strapped for cash though)
-you can use it on your computar!
anyone else think the extra linux stuff is just like some bonus' in this hardware bundle? cause thats how i see it
so.. what.. it's impossible for some... GALS to get stuff up and running????
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-The actual Playstation2
Might want to mention that.
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Is it possible to make a game or an app with this kit and put it on a CD-ROM (how i dont know) then give it to someone without this kit and have it run?
Will we see more games? Does this make the PS2 easier to write for? It seems this is just something for the geeks over on slashdot to mess with and get gimp running on or something.
I think it would be cool to make a NES/SNES/Gensis emulator and play old games on it like the dreamcast can.
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the Warez Scene is going to have a lot of fun with this new Linux kit:
http://www.newsdev.com/comments.php?news_id=151
they are already circling.....
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either that or my CDN funny money is skewing my perception of value
Kudos to Sony for doing something neat because it's cool, and not because it immediately impacts the bottom line.
Kudos to the free software community for producing such a fucking good operating system.
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Microsoft will definitely have a response to this and it will be something along the lines of "Voila, we already have our WinXP operating system onboard. Now you can buy Xbox keyboards and mice (aka USB devices)"
Seeing as the Xbox is just a friggin' PC with better game support that directX on Win98 should have had from the beginning
Can I use a TV as my display ?
Yes. However, it is necessary to install Linux (for PlayStation 2) for the first time using a compatible VESA Monitor that supports "sync on green". Once Linux has been installed, it is possible to configure it to boot using TV display from then on. Some digital TV (DTV) modes are also supported (separate cables may be required for DTV).
Which Display Resolutions are supported ?
NTSC/PAL interlaced and non-interlaced
DTV 480P, 720P and 1080I modes
VESA modes 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024 at 60/75 Hz
http://playstation2-linux.com/faq.php
Will Linux (for PlayStation 2) be compatible with the Network Adaptor (ethernet/modem) (for PlayStation 2)?
Sony Computer Entertainment America plans to launch a product called the "Network Adaptor (Ethernet/modem) (for PlayStation 2)". This product is very similar to the adaptor included in the Linux (for PlayStation 2) kit except that it contains an analog modem in addition to the ethernet port.
The Linux (for PlayStation 2) version 1.0 software included in the kit does not support the modem part of this new network adaptor at the present time. However, we expect to release drivers to support this modem in the future.
Is the HDD compatible with PlayStation 2 Games ?
At the time of writing, the internal hard disk drive (for PlayStation 2) (HDD) is not supported by any PlayStation 2 games in North America and is only sold for use with Linux (for PlayStation 2). In the future, PlayStation 2 games in North America may support the HDD. A HDD with Linux (for PlayStation 2) installed cannot be used with these games.
But hell, kb + mouse + network adapter sounds like multiplayer FPS possibilities to me.
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Second of all, does anyone even have one of these kits yet to verify if the thing will let you use illegitimate software? no, its all specualtion and a lame plot to get hits on their web site. meh....
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-- Internal hard disk drive for PlayStation 2 (HDD) with 40 GB capacity
-- Network Adaptor (Ethernet) (for PlayStation 2) with 100 Base T Ethernet interface
-- Linux Kernel version 2.2.1 (with USB device support)
-- "Linux (for PlayStation 2)" Version 1.0 software distribution on two DVDs
-- gcc 2.95.2 and glibc 2.2.2 with VU assemblers
-- XFree86 3.3.6 with PlayStation 2 GS support
-- Computer monitor adaptor (for PlayStation 2) (with audio connectors)
-- USB Keyboard and mouse (for PlayStation 2)
Star Trek DVD's
Software
Windows
Mobile Phones
TV's
Consumer equipment in general.
It's always 1.0 with 1.1 or 2.0 coming later - to leech MORE of your money.
How often do people release 1.0 FINAL of ANYTHING nowadays which they don't improve upon because the inital release is fine.
sigh.
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Actually I'd really like to get my hands on one of these... I'd make the most stupid useless crap but I would get a kick out of seeing my stuff running on a console.
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Someone, please put that website out- The 'News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters' slogan is enough to make me gag (stuff that matters, since when did the release of FreeBSD 1.2343534534534534534 matter?)
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On the amateur developer point of view, this stuff is incredible. People used to hack into ps1's using the weirdest ways possible, only to compile their programs and run it without having to burn cd copies. Doing everything on the machine (as would a devkit work) is a dream for such people (there are lots of them) that just want to have the developer fun without having to spent tens of thousands of dolars for a official devkit and a developer signature/support account at sony.
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response to this.
It's weird, because a couple of weeks ago I made a post on xboxhacker.net about how MS should
release a "development version" of the Xbox. Anything you developed would only work on
other "development" xbox's. But you could still play the standard licensed games. Of course
the development xbox would cost more to offset the hit that they normally take on hardware.
Essentially, this is exactly what Linux for PS2 is.
It seems like everyone wins because the hackers don't have to jump through hoops to
run their homebrew stuff, Joe Console won't be able to play the homebrew stuff because he
didn't want to pay extra for development console. And the hackers will most certainly still buy
the officially released games.
Made sense to me, but no one else there seemed to think it was a good idea.
Wierd! o_0
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But what else did you expect from a member of the RIAA cartel?
hehe....gotta love those /. zealots.
marketing wars.
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