CPL's Counter-Strike

This sort of dumb response is stoopid , anyway burying head in said sand seems to be the way for "middle" America to go . Anyway it might be good for quake 3 tourneys as pro-gamers switch . Anyway terrorism has gone on before sept 11 (irish and ulster paramilitaries in england) where I live - was counterstrike changed or the latest Arnie flick pulled in England . No it f*cking wasn't . Well I hope the cpl dies a long and slow death because of this and the forthcoming doom game becomes the game of choice for pro gamers :)

CPL is trying to garner a good public image and mainstream acceptance. Right now, the last thing the mainstream wants to see is the illusion of someone glorifying terrorist activities. Is that so hard to understand?

It's not as though the gameplay isn't changing at all, just some wording so that the public is more likely to accept the game instead of boycotting it and causing a ruckus. We're at war. Glorifying the enemy (terrorists) would be considered by many to be anti-American behavior and absolutely horrible press for the CPL.

This is not the terrorists succeeding and creating fear. This is a company being patriotic by not allowing our wartime enemies to "win" a game. Think about it.

Gameplay does not just take place onscreen. It takes place in the minds of the gamers. In CS, a gamer would not care as much if the "Carebears" were trying to prevent the "Baddies" from "Planting the Flower." It would make the game lame...and stupid.

By grafting a real life hyperbolie onto the game dynamic you add to the realism and enhance the gameplay. Removing the elements of Terrorism and Counter-Terrorism is Ghey.

During the Cold War Americans LOVED having various forms of entertainment that featured the Russians; who were, at the time, our "sworn enemies." Nations find it somewhat theraputic to "defeat" their "Enemies" in various forms of entertainment and Terrorists are our new Enemy. Therefore, we should KEEP terrorists in games like CS.

Responding to "A nation's mourning" by removing Terrorists from a game like CS is a bonus for the terrorists - they're no longer seen in this one game as a foe.

Cliff

Sorry, this is lame.

Cliff

I dunno, I gotta agree with (someone) who mentioned the IRA planting bombs as terrorist acts for 30 years, but for some reason, *that* didn't bother Valve and CPL...I believe they even used to call that "terrorism"...
But suddenly, now, with Pep Boys and Ford Trucks advertising their Americanism (to get you to BUY STUFF - which *is actually* the heart of Americanism - and I used Americanism instead of patriotism for an excellent reason...), everyone is freaking out...
I don't think that CS used to have the "American Home Defense Ops" and the "Bin Laden Al-Qaeda Terrorists", did they? If not, what is there to change?
Bombs didn't exist before Sept 11? Actually, guess what...None of the terrorists PLANTED ANY BOMBS...But they planted plenty of bombs prior to Sept 11...and not just *these* terrorists...
No bomb sound? What sound does the huge explosion make, when it blows up the boxes, and sends everyone in the room flying away from the "communications device"?
I don't like this trend...Movies, TV, Music, Books, Comics, Games, everything we can possible use for a little escapism...WRECKED by "ooooh..but what will the general public (who doesn't play, see, read, or listen to these things anyway) think about the word terrorist in our media!?!"
If people don't want to see this stuff, why couldn't you find a copy of Diehard on the shelves at Blockbuster, a couple of weeks ago?
Hell, go watch Wicked City...They fly a passenger jet DIRECTLY thru a hi-rise building...Wing and tail sticking thru it and everything...AND NO DAMAGE IS DONE...cause it's a hologram...It should be very life-affirming for all the freak-outs out there...
Anyway...enough of me being pissed off...I'll see the rest of you dissenters in the FEMA work camp at Thunder Mountain later on in the year...Peace!

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I say anyone competing at CPL should just make a spray decal with somehting like "CPL R Ghey Fegs" and spray it all over the place during the comp so all the ppl watching on the HLTV can see what we all think.

I know I would love to make a fool out of CPL for this shit.........But mainly coz they ARE ALL GHEY FEGS WHO DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT RUNNING A FUCKING LAN!!!!!!!!

I feel better now

Did I miss something? I was under the impression that this was simply a change for the people who play at CPL -- is it forced on anyone? is it a new update to counterstrike? why the fuck does this affect all of you people so much?

If this was for version 1.4, sure, I'd be pissed off too. You are reacting like it is. However, this is simply a PR move, and it isn't that dumb when you think about it.

And the fact that youve got replica written down the side of your gun, and the fact that Ive got Desert Eagle, .50 written on the side of mine, should precipitate your balls into shrinking

oh my god.... this is the worst thing i have ever read. Makes me want to bring a gun to school and kill everyone!!!!!! Seriously.... what is going to be accomplished by butchering a game like this? I mean...... if the cpl wants more coverage try running racy things. People will be on their sides over this whole censorship thing more than likely. I mean really, there is no better way to bring up sales or interest than controversy. I mean shit, look at Marilyn Manson, he has made his career out of his fans and then out of these christians that hate him SOO FUCKN MUCH that they buy all of his records and go to his concerts.

If anything the cpl is really proving themselves to be a weak organization that easily will shape what they do by "popular" public opinion. Well, in case they weren't aware... the general public could give a shit less about video games, let alone a bunch of skinny to overweight computer geeks dukin it out on their computers in one huge room yelling at another.

I just think its sad that we have this trend going, its good to know that terrorism succeeded, as it is only being proven more in the aftermath. Way to be america. And thank you media for making us so weak and scarred of the "attacks" of anthrax. I really appreciate making me a target and making panic for the terrorists. k thx sit

It's all really a moot point anyway. Next year, the CPL will just switch games again to whatever is the "in" game, and it won't really matter anyway what changes they make now to CS.

Besides, camperstrike is ghey anyway.

Baka.

Jack Mathews appears to be a CPL fanboy.

This is so fucking dumb it's incredible. No one fucking cares if they have ct vs. terr.

Maybe the best things to do, is to just ban all FPS's...Then, only criminals will play FPS's, which will fit nicely into the school shooting theory, and will soon be expanded to show that school shooters grow up to be Al-Qaeda terrorists if they survive...
...which will then defend their banning of FPS's...A neat example of governmental circular logic...

I am sure its been said before since I haven't read any replies but I would like to take this opportunity to say... ROFL!


Its funny how theres 50k ppl playing this game 24-7 with bombs and explosions and the tourney is being adjusted for sensitivity reasons. Humans are a very strange species.

That's so fucking lame.

So they removed Terrorism related stuff from a terrorism based mod named Counter-Strike? The CPL is stupid.

If a newer version of the mod adds this crap too, it will pretty much be the end of CS.

Actually, I think that the terms "offensive" and "defensive" NEED to be in the game anyway. On hostage maps, the score panel should show "offense" in the CT heading, and on bomb maps it should show "offense" in the T heading. And then in the "how to play CS" thing it should say in big bold letters,

OFFENSE: RUSH
DEFENSE: CAMP

...so that we can settle THAT whole thing once-and-for-fucking-all.

I wonder if this will make it into future CS versions.

As many have said it might actually help the teams play their supposed roles.

I would suspect that the decision was most likely made jointly by Intel, Valve, and CPL. Angel isnt the only one responsible for the decision, and honestly I wouldnt be surprised if it wasnt even his decision at all but Intel saying "we need these changes made or we dont feel comfortable sponsoring the event"

This world is too politically correct. It honestly makes me sick. You can't hide the real world truth when that's what there is being counter-terrorists and terrorists.

tsk tsk tsk.

Stupidest. Reaction. To the WTC tragedy. EVAR!

Next version = GOOD SIDE WINS! BAD SIDE WINS!

haha we aren't the only country any more to have games ... aahm ... "modified" cause of political correctness :D

we should go the other way. Make it so the game revolves around killing and raping Osama Bin Laden and the other team is trying to do it first.

Terrorism exists in order to strike terror into the hearts and minds of those being terrorised. For every change that occurs because of the attacks, that's one point for the terrorists. As that's the ultimate goal of terrorism, to incite change, either in attitudes or opinions.

The whole of America (and much of the Western world) is in a current state of terror (and deep shock) over what hapenned on Sep 11th, which means that the terrorism succeeded. In the words of Counter-Strike, Terrorists Win.

The IRA have been planting bombs throughout the UK (especially London) for over 30 years, yet life goes on. People aren't scared to go to London. Yet many are scared to go to the US (and just as scared to leave it).

Bush (and many other Americans) know that life has to get back to (what passes as) normal. That's their message. Contrary to belief, that doesn't mean you can't grieve for the tragic loss of life, it just means that you can't show the terrorists that they were successful. Stand up for yourselves, be proud and patriotic by showing that you stand in the face of adversity. And, when given the chance, go after the people who did this to you and bomb the fuck out of them.

So while I can understand the CPL's point of view in regards to their sponsors, you'll excuse me if I find it horribly pedantic and hypocritical to remove all explosion sounds from a game where shooting people in the head is counted as "a good thing".

Chalk another point up for the terrorists. Or should I say "offensive team".

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