GameCube vs X-Box

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  ps2 is already dead : snuff
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    Yeah - at least where I am, ps2 has no buzz. No one cares. : avixe
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      MGS2 should make people start caring again... : Stormrider
      • I guess. I won't be spending $350 for one game though. : avixe
  • yeah. PS2 is definitely dead. Except for, uh, those ten million PS2s that have already been sold. E... : daggah

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• The CPU and GPU are much more powerful.. cube.ign.com : Warlock

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  Since when did a Xbox come with a keyboard & mouse? And the DVD player will be an add-on for xbox ... : Lethal Lex
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    since they announced that this morning? : Ominous
    • link? : astral
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      really? Can you show me the link then please that says this Thanks! -Lex : Lethal Lex
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        I dunno someone else posted that info and i just ran with it! : Ominous
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          I just watched the MS guys keynote (http://www.xbox.com/news/0105/1601.htm) and he does mention somethin... : astral
          • yeah, that quote is at around 5:40 in the video. I think he was just referring to the fact that you won... : mattleexbox
• You know what they say, the amount of success a console gets is directly proportionate to the amount of ... : {Venger}
• no keyboard. Just the box and a pad. Standard issue console shit. They should all throw in a game lik... : str8upkiller
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  remember when consoles came with 2 controllers and a game or 2. Those were the days. Memories... : quietb0y
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    It wasn't like those controllers and games were free. : pyrotek
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      ?????????????????? : quietb0y
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        They were included in the cost. You didn't pay quite as much as you did if you bought them seperately, ... : pyrotek
        • while i agree with you on the choice of games, the second controller would still be a nice gesture. : quietb0y
• I still think it is a good idea to throw one game in with the box. It's a great selling point especiall... : str8upkiller

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  #203 Actually, if you factor in the cost of the remote control for the Xbox (which will probably cost $5... : monohydrate
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    I like where you get your pricing from! : Ominous
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      #210 What are you trying to say? I got all the information from the article about the Xbox that was pos : monohydrate
      • #211 - They've talked about the remote/dvd option costing about $20-30. http://gamespot.com/gamespot/sto... : Carnivac
    • Don't get all crazy buddy, were just speculating. : tension
  • but what if you buy a regular Gamecube and then a few months later you want it to play dvds? You're scr... : astral
  • Yes, they lose money on each console they sell, but that's a pretty standard practice. If they sold them... : klerck
  • The good thing is both of these companies can afford to sell their consoles at some loss. Because in the... : tension

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• Yet another reason not to buy a $box. : Hawk7
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  That game ruled! I didn't know Halo was a remake of a classic. : Topaz
  • AMOK LIVES!!! I had it for the VIC-20 : timmie

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• The same goes for every other console, so what's your point? With Nintendo you get all the games Xbox ha... : monohydrate
• im gonna get a gameboy advance. nintendo seems to be the only company that has even taken notice of the ... : corey
• that is not correct. Think about the huge number of hacks, virus, and whatnot. I'm sure every game with ... : overtoke
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  I've had Duke Nukem 3D since it came out and I can still run it, even after all these years. Derringer : Derringer
  • That was for #195 Derringer : Derringer

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  * D R E A M C A S T ' D *]b Gee, that argument was easy to rebuke : 0Wingfan
  • Yeah, consoles are all about marketing and one or two hit games. : pyrotek
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    Dreamcast has Virtua Tennis, which is more fun thananything i've seen on PS2 so far. Of course, MGS2 : jvox
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      and dont forget the soon to be released Super Puzzle Fighter 2! : ghost in my shell
      • that name is just DRIPPING with Japanese-ness!! :-) : jvox
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    Name one hugely successful Dreamcast game. : str8upkiller
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      Soul Calibur. : acheron
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        That was big yes. But really another fighting game that we've seen over and over. Fun sure but innovat... : str8upkiller
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          You only asked for one hugely successful game. :-D Phantasy Star Online seemed to be selling very we... : acheron
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            SHEN MUE! : {Venger}
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              the one where you can buy a coke? ;P : str8upkiller
              • or play with this kitten? : kingdok
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              I thought SHEN MUE sales were disappointing, no? : phil_mckraken
              • no, it was a best seller. shenmue 2 will 0wnx0r (finally GET TO FUCK THAT SHEN HAU CHICK!) : adnans
            • I dug Shenmue for about half of it. Then for the last three days of the game you have pretty much zer : acheron
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            NFL 2K1 was huge too. Jet Grind didn't sell too well even though it's an awesome game. : afty
            • I completely forgot the football games cause Madden PS2 is better. : acheron
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      Jenna Jameson's Flashpoint. Not a game, but it's fun to watch it on the big screen instead of the little... : snuff
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        Jenna Jameson's Operation: Flashpoint? ;-) : Stormrider
        • blah. i only liked one part of that porn. and that was with asia carrera came in. that was so awesome... : kaber
        • Dunno about any operation, but those girls are as precise as surgeons : snuff
    • phantasy star online, resident evil: code veronica, shenmue, dead or alive 2, UFC, marvel vs capcom 2, s... : -=kodiak=-
    • that's the whole point though, I think. there were many great games that weren't huge hits. : paper chase guy

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• was there an eclipse? : Ominous
• light blue here : [sikander]
• Shuttup Daggah Thanks! -Lex : Lethal Lex
• except you'd be the one trying to claim it was red.. : astral
• the sky is currently black :) : hawkeye
• ATI TV-Wonder? : bradley!!!
• I don't think my posts were out of line. : acheron
• someone make a Daggah Hero :) : [sikander]
• I'm on your side. : {Venger}
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  No, I'd honestly say if I read #141 and it was posted by someone else I'd still think "What a stupid poi... : Stormrider
  • I just read through the entire argument and it felt pretty stupid to me. That includes your posts, Storm... : {Venger}

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  the last zelda's are for little kids. just like pokemon. what i want is a mario as cool as mario 64. : The Philosopher
  • what do you mean little kids, the first zelda64 was pretty much a 3d version of the SNES version... : ghost in my shell
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  How about Halo and some EA Sports games? : Ominous
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    The EA sports games are going to be on GC. : pyrotek
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      But X-box should have the best looking ones, and probally will have best online support. : Ominous
      • Thats bullshit. : Warlock
• Real men play minesweeper! 123 seconds expert : Kiwi Man
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  One word... HALO : StuMan8424
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    that pirate game at the conference actually looked pretty cool too. : snuff
    • it looked interesting. Something new perhaps? : Ominous

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• 5 titles is fine as long as they're quality games. The PS2 launched with 27 or so titles, but nearly ev... : Ass Cobra
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  url? www.cnn.com ? : kaber
  • #128 It was on television, in full res glory! : agentsmith

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  the G3 is good at photoshop plug ins...how come Quake 3 benches slower on a G4 then a PC?!?!? : Ominous
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    I dunno what G4 benchmarks you've been looking at, but I get great framerates in Quake 3. And please, l... : smashedapart
    • Compare your G4 to the P4 in quake 3.... Compare the G3 to a P3 in games.. G3 = smoked! : Ominous
• You are correct, its not very easy for someone who doesnt know what theyre doing to decide which is fast... : {Venger}
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  kinda like the way a P4 1.7 runs at the same speed as a Tbird 1.3? *snicker* : hawkeye
  • except in Quake 3....too bad I don't want a P4 nor play QUake 3 all that much : Ominous
• thats basically what i said. only in alot less words, and alot less detailed. http://www.shacknews... : ath1337
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  Relating Gamecubes to Macs is a good way to get people to buy them. : snuff
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    Hey, they do both have the whole "cube" thing goin'... : Stormrider
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      both are small and wouldnt even be powerfull enough to work as a door stop or papaer weight! : Ominous
      • That too! : Stormrider
      • they come in a variety of pretty colors. : snuff
• hey haven't i read that before somewhere? btw. if i could work on any console system. it'd _have_ ... : kaber
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  nicely put. The whole thing about a g3 not being on a p3's (or g4 to p4) level when it comes to qua... : ilikegirls
  • I thought thay had ATI cards and stuff... : Ominous
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    John Carmack said himself that when he was demoing Doom3 on that G4 733 w/GeForce3 that it wasn't as fas... : Stormrider
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      Yes, he did say that...however, the Xbox is running neither an Athlon OR a GeForce 3. : smashedapart
      • Correct. It's running a P3 and something better than a GeForce3. : Stormrider

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  GT3? WHAT IS THAT?1 http://www.xbox.com/console/games/projectgothamracing/mim-gotham15-02.jpg : Ominous
  • I saw a post by one guy on a message board that said that looks EXACTLY like the real NY street. : Stormrider

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• heh. : Quagmire
• preach on brotha, preach on ati tv-wonder? : adnans
• Come on guys, every console has some good games, some bad, most mediocre. : phil_mckraken

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• Sorry, not burnt, I have 7 games I play all the time on my PS2. : phil_mckraken

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  DVD support will be added in patch 4.32.1.3.2.14g : xbox
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    you don't know yourself very well it'll be a remote/something that enables the DVD : hawkeye
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      You'll need a patch for the remote to work. DUH : xbox
      • Im sure that patch will require a patch to operate. : {Venger}
• It's been like that for a long time. Basically that shifts the DVD licensing fee from the X-Box to the ... : Stormrider
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  there is a $20 licensing fee for dvd playback. The remote will enable this and you pay the fee with the ... : phil_mckraken
  • so this was supposed to be a reply to Oms earlier post but i fucked up... anyway then the xbox wont ship... : ease_one

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  microsoft should announce November 2nd is the new Xbox release date : eject
  • They should jsut keep one upping each other until the Xbox and Gamecube release dates are next week. : acheron

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  I have been unimpressed by the graphics in the game footage I have seen so far, but I'm sure the games w... : pyrotek
  • zelda, mario, metroid. old favorites that never die, perhaps they will have something else to offer bes... : quietb0y

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  umm in english?!?! : Ominous
  • I believe what he's trying to say is, just because the hardware's better doesn't mean it will be a bette... : thegreatbadger
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  wtf? : jidar
  • I had no trouble reading and understanding what he said.. : FunkyBass

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  until I hear from Nintendo, I'm going to assume it will come with one controll, a/v cables, and the syst... : klerck
  • err, microsoft : klerck
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  If Nintendo has a Zelda and a Pokemon game ready for launch day...oh well MS I agree. Nintendo alway... : Ass Cobra
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    From what I've heard, Nintendo is kicking Retro's ass to have Metroid done for launch. If it launch... : avixe
    • JACK JACK IS ON A DOLPHIN ATTACK : jidar
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  ITS ALL IN THE BOX ITS ALL IN THE BOX ITS ALL IN THE Xbox}g]b BOX : eject
  • I DID IT ALL FOR THE * S H A C K T A G S * : eject
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    * Shoots eject * : xbox
    • First Xbox Shooting Victim discovered... film at 11 : eject

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• compaired to all the other CG stuff I've seen it looks normal. : Ominous

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  Remember, Sega will release their titles for all consoles, so the system you buy mainly determines yo... : avixe
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    sony has no 1st party games! : Ominous
    • FANTAVISION hahahah *ahem* : astral

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  they don't need to. : xvdl
  • ya .. but then again this is MS's first console so i guess thats why theyre spending that much on market... : [sikander]

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• You're so mistaken that its not even funny buddy. Nintendo was stupid with the n64...but they've learne... : ReverendSE