Report: Nintendo NX entering mass production at the end of Q1 2016
According to a newly-published report, we can expect Foxconn to start churning out the Nintendo NX as early as Q1 2016.
We learned earlier this year Nintendo plans on launching its Nintendo NX in July 2016, and while that date seems relatively early considering the Wii U’s lifecycle, a new report has been published which once again solidifies the company’s plans for the new year.
A new report published by Digitimes says the Nintendo NX will enter mass production at the end of the first quarter of 2016 with the device’s upstream supply chain estimating shipments to reach around 10 - 12 million units. Foxconn Electronics has been chosen to manufacture the Nintendo NX, which is estimated to enter mass shipments in Q2 2016.
In addition to Foxconn, suppliers such as Foxconn Technology, Macronix, Pixart Imaging, Coxon Precise Industrial, Nishoku Technology, Delta Technology, Lingsen Precision, and Jantech will also supply components for the Nintendo NX.
We’ve reached out to Nintendo for comment. We’ll be sure to update this story when we receive a response.
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replyDaniel Perez posted a new article, Report: Nintendo NX entering mass production at the end of Q1 2016
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Can't wait for details. Real details, not rumors.
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So is this thing just going to be a souped up Wii U??
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Yeah, if they really want to sell the NX we need to know how new and improved the NX will be over the WiiU.
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yah would need to be a pretty massive jump to make it worthwhile... I'd hope it would at least beat out the PS4.
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There have been rumours all over the show regarding what the hardware platform underpinning Nintendo NX will be..
my favourite is...
4 Zen cores + ~2000 GCN cores + 8GB HBM2 on an interposer.
Now, I can't really say how likely that it, but I'd say it's at least possible.
and it would give the PS4 and Xbox One SUCH a bloody nose, like, SERIOUSLY.-
HBM2 from AMD this early doesn't sound possible. AMD hasn't really done anything surprising in recent memory. Some good ideas, but no surprises. HBM2 on WiiV would defiantly be a surprise.
Either way, whatever they make has to be comparable or better than what the PS4 or XB1 is. Otherwise they'll run into the same issues with third parties as they do now because the hardware is so specialized compared to the other platforms.-
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If they had HBM2 I think we'd have herd rumors of an 8GB Fury card. Not to mention that Nvida and AMD are using the same fabs you'd have seen leaked screens of some parts. These types of things just aren't that secret anymore. It's why I said it would be a surprise to have something that early, and AMD isn't known for surprises as of late.
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HBM2 from AMD will be coming with Arctic Islands GPUs, which have taped out and are slated for availability sometime around Q1-2016
This is entirely in the window for tech like that.
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Probably not. The rumors are it's a clean break from the Gamecube/Wii/WiiU line and its significantly more powerful than current consoles. (which shouldn't be hard since both the ps4 and xbox one are way underpowered)
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Word.
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But that's basically just a PS4 or XB1. Which if you already have one of those you'd only be buying this for the Nintendo exclusives. In which case it doesn't matter if it's a gimmick or not because the games will be designed around it. Which is fine because it's Nintendo. At the very least it would be serviceable. I don't have anything nice to say about motion control, but at the very least Nintendo games worked well enough with it.
If you're only buying the NX for the Nintendo games, what does the controller matter? -
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Wow this thread got depressing quick.
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I hope they keep the gamepad I love playing in bed
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I'm all fucking over it if this means comparable third party ports PLUS Nintendo games. You can't beat that combo.
In before someone brings up shitty network service. -
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I still think "more powerful" in their sense could be as simple as mass polygon power vs shaders. This is one thing the Wii was really good at. Shaders were weak, but it could push enough polygons to compensate for not having sophisticated lighting and shadows.
I also think "more powerful" could really be "more capable" as in doing things MS and Sony aren't doing. Yet, anyways. But, this is Nintendo. I don't think we should expect a revolutionary leap in technology. They've done very well with lower priced systems vs trying to compete at the $300-500 release prices of the current systems. More powerful per dollar at a $199/$299 price point, maybe.-
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True, but it was still a lower price point. I was thinking more about the Wii though since it was easily more successful than the WiiU. I'd love to believe Nintendo will get a clue and do something unexpected like merge mobile gaming with cloud services on a device not unlike the WiiU and even something more to do with the pad. I don't think we need a 3rd ps2-style controller-based console. I think Nintendo had the right idea with the Wii to do something different.
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Microsoft can do cloud. Apple has a good grasp on cloud. I don't think Nintendo could do cloud. At least not to an equal standard.
I think the Wii was just luck. That console sold a bunch of units to a bunch of people who weren't the last bit interested in consoles. We're talking retirement homes, and grandparents. It being cheap also help. I think it hurt them in the long run, and alienated a lot of their core fan base. That is easy to see when you look at the poor performance of the WiiU. That thing is like a Wii, except better in every way and no one gives a damn.
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Totally agree about Nintendo is at a major crossroads. They gained a ton of new players, but did a lot of damage to core fan base. It does feel like they're trying to make a comeback to the fans vs our aunts and uncles that bought the Wii. But, I know the bean counters aren't willing to give up that fight either.
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I'm hoping they are, because those people aren't going to buy another console for some time. The Wii came off as a fun novelty, and I honestly think that's all it was. It got pickup by the right news channels and like Apple devices people were just talking about it. Couple that with the fact that you couldn't even have one for the first 2 years it was on sale did wonders for it's image. I can't imagine that people who saw the Wii on Good Morning America, and like shows are interested in playing the next Zelda game, or would re-up for another balance board.
I don't know what Nintendo should do. I feel they're releasing too late in this race to worry about Microsoft and Sony, yet they can't afford to not be able to cater to that audience.
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I agree that they did damage their reputation with the core audience. They have the best exclusive library by miles, are cranking out best-in-franchise games, IMHO have their best system since the SNES, and the market isn't responding like it should.
As for the Wii, that wasn't luck. They were the first to identify huge parts of the market that weren't being catered to ten years ago. It wasn't just the Wii, it was also the DS with games like Brain Age. That market still exists, they just moved onto smartphones while party games expanded to other platforms.
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I seem to be hearing a lot of rumors about this system being some kind of Home Console / Portable console in one. Or at least sharing the same games across the two. I'm not quite sure how they will do that... but I'm very curious to see what they come up with.
For a while there I was convinced that they would do some kind of stand-alone VR device which didn't even require a TV. But now... I'm not so sure about that anymore.
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It's two Wii Us glued together just like the Wii U was two Wiis glued together and the Wii was two GameCube glued together.
The NX is 8 Gamecubes glued together
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Sounds like it will be released by E3 next year.
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I'd think if they were announcing a new console then they'd have a real E3 presence instead, not that I don't love the way they have been doing it.
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there's basically no way to pull that off given the network of suppliers, distributors, advertisers, etc that would leak long before release
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It was annouced awhile back that AMD had secured another major chip deal with a secret 3rd party.
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When was the last time AMD wasn't the main supplier of console cpus? Sony's cell in the ps3?
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10 years.
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If Zelda gets dual released like twilight I'll be peeved
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Twilight HD should get a dual release. That could upset more than a few people
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That would be amazing and hilarious for even the HD release to get TP'd.
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cause I bought a wii u recently and Id rather play it on a better system :/
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You're like 2 years late.
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yeah wouldve been fun to play the wii u 2 years ago with no games
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yeah the valcan_s side of me wants 60fps best gfx
but the wii u purchase side of me will have buyers remorse :/ ah well, wind waker hd was good and I enjoyed mario 3d world I guess. $300 for a few games is a bit much, nextgen zelda wouldve justified it big time. but if its on nx i will get nx-
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thats purely subjective. i dont own either, but i can think of maybe 1 game on the wiiu i would be interested in. there are several more out/coming out on PS4. the 1 person i know who owns a wiiu and a PS4 recently boxed his wiiu up because there were no games.
so anecdotal evidence vs anecdotal evidence is something something-
I'd say your opinion of games, in general, is subjective, but the value of the games, as being played, is not. I can say that God f War sucked, or that Halo sucked or that Smash Bros sucked, but that doesn't mean it's true. It might be true that I didn't like them, but the fact that it's well regarded by a large number of people points to the fact that they're good games that I didn't like. You may not like the Wii U lineup, but given that there are a good number of games that are well regarded, by a large number of people, leads to a reasonable conclusion that it has a good library of games, despite your personal opinion.
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Sure, if they're not your thing then there's no reason to go there. I have every platform, thoroughly disliked the Wii overall, and I think Nintendo has done such a great job with their first party titles over the last three years.
If I liked Assassins Creed, CoD, Madden, Destiny, etc, then my opinion would obviously be different. Third party does so little for me though, and the great ones (Witcher 3, MGS V) I'd rather play on PC instead. I bought a PS4 at launch and am disappointed that after over two years I'll finally have an exclusive that I deeply care about with Uncharted 4.
The Wii U already had a solid library after that much time. Again, if you just don't like Nintendo games then its clearly not a platform for you. Not everything is for everyone. I have my hands in every platform except Android and the "Wii U has no library" argument goes right over my head. It has so much that is so good. -
This is the strange thing about the WiiU for me. I've played several of the games at a friends house, and seen plenty of it in action, and they are some of the best versions of Nintendo's past stable. I'm not sure if I just don't want to play those kinds of games anymore, or if after nearly 30 years I've done all I really want to do with Mario and Zelda.
On the flip side Mario Maker is just so cool, but not go out and buy a WiiU and the game for what they're asking cool. So maybe I'm not tired of Mario.
I'm so conflicted XD
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I think it makes sense, especially if they've also got a new Mario game being worked on for release along with a couple other titles. If they were to release a new console with both a Mario game and a Zelda game available...that would be a pretty big damned deal and one hell of a launch.
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Interesting. I hope it has decent specs.
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My bet: It's a high powered 3DS that can be streamed to the big screen. This brings all Nintendo-centric developers (and their audience!) onto a single, unified platform. If done right, it could be a master stroke for their business model.
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Yeah, its the theory I like the most. Super Mario 3D Land had the same designer as Galaxy and 3D World while Smash 4 was mechanically identical on Wii U and 3DS. Nintendo also consolidated their console and mobile development teams under the same roof recently. The 3DS is also the highest selling console this generation. Finally, the Wii U gamepad solved the problem of local video streaming since it has 60fps with less input lag than most HDTVs.
It plays to Nintendo's strengths to unify their software, plus mobile hardware is now fast enough to drive console level graphics. -
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Doubtful. Their portable systems dominate the marketplace. Any new system would want to maintain that momentum, so its got to be portable first and foremost. Have you seen how many kids carry around a DS?
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and how many they sell compared to wii u.
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It's good, but it paints a strange picture. When you compare it to the sales of the DS, which moved some 150 million plus units, it starts to look like dedicated mobile handheld gaming is getting smaller. Obviously the Vita performed worse than the PSP and high ranking Sony officials seem to think that now is a bad time to put money in that market space.
I hold that Microsoft or Sony creating a phone that functions as a mobile handheld would be a big seller.
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I think that unless consoles can somehow reclaim more of the mainstream market that went to smartphones or that new markets like China or India somehow goes bananas for consoles, that the mid-2000s will be the peak.
One of the reasons why the PS2, PS3, and XBox 360 were popular is that they could be used for DVDs, Blu Rays, and then media streaming. I knew a lot of people who weren't really gamers but that were always watching Netflix on their 360s. Those same people have no need for a console in 2015, now they can just get a Roku or AppleTV or Chromecast or whatever. It used to cost hundreds to get media streaming functionality, now its the cost of dinner and a movie.
The PS4 is selling well but if you look at aggregate XBox and Playstation units sold then it really isn't that great. Blame Microsoft for completely handing the market over to Sony with a shit product that had a terrible launch. Its not an expansion of the console market, its one player taking a larger chunk of the Sony/MS market than they would have had otherwise.
The console market just isn't what it used to be, partly because the mainstream market is leaving it behind for cheaper, more streamlined devices and smartphone. We'll never see something like the PS2, Wii, DS, or aggregate PS3/360 levels again unless the markets outside of NA and EU really explodes.
As for the mobile gaming market, neither Sony not Microsoft would do well unless they decided to REALLY commit resources to first party development, and neither company has teams on the level that Nintendo has. The Vita is dead in the water and their phones wouldn't be enough either. Windows Phone is still a bomb and Sony is a bit player in the Android market, which is unfortunate given the quality of their hardware.-
BTW, I think the media usage on the 360 is why MS screwed up their product focus and messaging with the XB1 so badly. They had all this data telling them that a large number of people used the 360 for Netflix. Because of this the "TV TV TV sports!" nonsense happened.
They thought, "hey, people love gaming consoles for TV and movies, so let's market to them and add HDMI passthrough!". They didn't realize that the market didn't give a shit about XBox, they just wanted a way to watch Netflix. What was needed in 2009 for that functionality wasn't needed in 2013.
I remember being in a fancy VIP demo for the Natal prototype back at E3 2009. All I could think is that whoever the Microsoft VP in the room was would have been better off using his MBA to sell dishwashing detergent. He had absolutely zero grasp of the product or the market at all, it was mindblowing. -
I don't think they need first party for mobile. They just have to create the platform in this case. Right now there's nothing. Once you rub up against the line of needing something more than a touch screen you HAVE to go with a 3DS. Vita isn't even a consideration at this point. If a 3DS isn't what you want, then there's nothing. So first party isn't so important as just having content in general.
The shrinking of the console market is something I brought up 3 years ago, and caught some heat for. Cost of making games for consoles and PC have gone through the roof, and the number of people playing them on consoles at least hasn't seen much of a raise since the days of the PS2. That's a problem. Look at all the publishers that folded up last generation. It's not as healthy as I think everyone is saying.
I think consoles as a dedicated gaming platform don't make a ton of sense today. I think it just needs to be hardware that does stuff, and playing games well is just one of the things the hardware does. Games are the only digital content that still work like it's the 1980s.-
Just creating the platform did nothing for the Vita, an otherwise excellent piece of hardware.
If Sony or Microsoft aren't going to make lots of great first party games for a new mobile platform then someone has to. Hoping that third parties are going to make a good mobile library just doesn't work the same way it does for living room consoles, most just don't do that sort of thing.
Nintendo leaning heavily on first party to carry their platforms seems to work on mobile, for whatever reason.
I agree with your points on the cost of development going up. It is one factor among many that paints a bad picture for developers going forward. Mainstream audiences don't need powerful gaming consoles for their uses anymore.
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Oh, I know! They'll go the complete other direction and just give in to all the nostalgia. The ultra mega 256-bit console with unlimited hardware sprites, pixel graphics..... and other nostalgia things we're supposed to like. It'll come with the retro controller and a new Mario pack-in. But, the games will be like 4x larger than ever before.
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Mega Nintendo Entertainment System. Now you're playing with power... Mega Power! #MNES
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BUT THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN AN F-ZERO X :(
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F-Zero NX
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If they even consider launching this without a proper Mario game they're fucking retarded.
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hmm.. Mass production in the first half of 2016. That's an odd time to launch. Ya, you could do an Apple style E3 launch with the hardware being available in the summer. But, they'd better have at least 2 games worth buying at launch and then a KILLER holiday line up to announce.
Unless the plan is to just stack the warehouse until Nov. Do the usual mid Nov launch. And make sure there is no such thing as a shortage. But, that's expensive to sit on that much inventory for half a year.-
I believe you generally do a couple months of mass production before launch to accumulate supply. So 1H2016 could still mean starting production in June and then a traditional Sept-Nov range launch.
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Yeah I just do not see this thing rolling out in seven months when nothing about it has been announced yet. Fall/winter 2016 seems like a safer bet.
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All outcomes mean new games, and I'm ok with that.
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