E3 2015: Watch the full Nintendo Digital Event here

Day 1 of E3 2015 is underway and the day kicks off with this year's presentation from Nintendo.

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Today is the first official day of E3 2015! The first ones to kick it off are the folks at Nintendo, who are just coming off an adrenaline-filled Nintendo World Championships.

While we, unfortunately, know that The Legend of Zelda on Wii U will not be present at this year's show, that doesn't mean Nintendo won't bring its best franchises. Look for more information for games like the newly-dubbed Super Mario Maker, Xenoblade Chronicles X, and more. Also, we'll likely hear news about Amiibo, since that seems to be the hotness.

Check out the full show below and be sure to join the conversation in the official thread.

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Ozzie has been playing video games since picking up his first NES controller at age 5. He has been into games ever since, only briefly stepping away during his college years. But he was pulled back in after spending years in QA circles for both THQ and Activision, mostly spending time helping to push forward the Guitar Hero series at its peak. Ozzie has become a big fan of platformers, puzzle games, shooters, and RPGs, just to name a few genres, but he’s also a huge sucker for anything with a good, compelling narrative behind it. Because what are video games if you can't enjoy a good story with a fresh Cherry Coke?

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    June 16, 2015 8:00 AM

    Ozzie Mejia posted a new article, E3 2015: Watch the full Nintendo Digital Event here

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      June 16, 2015 8:21 AM

      new metroid...pls nintendo

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        June 16, 2015 8:45 AM

        IMAGINE

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        June 16, 2015 8:48 AM

        I would buy a Wii U in a heart beat if Rare did a new Prime that was closer to the first one

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      June 16, 2015 8:29 AM

      It'll be pretty hard to top Sony this year, but damn I hope they do.

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        June 16, 2015 8:36 AM

        They will have an awesome or horrible e3, there is no inbetween.

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        June 16, 2015 8:41 AM

        They need to really bring it this year.I hope they do

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        June 16, 2015 8:43 AM

        who's Nintendo?

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          June 16, 2015 8:47 AM

          jk. last night gonna be one tough act to follow.

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        June 16, 2015 8:52 AM

        If they have games coming out this fall they will be ahead of the curve. That's been the bad thing about this E3. Everything is coming out next year besides Fallout 4.

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          June 16, 2015 8:53 AM

          Star Wars Battlefront comes this year.

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          June 16, 2015 8:58 AM

          You missed a lot of things coming out this year then.

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            June 16, 2015 8:59 AM

            Well I should say everything I'm most interested in.

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            June 16, 2015 9:02 AM

            very few of the new ip's shown yesterday are coming in 2015 ... I think that is the biggest issue people are having

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      June 16, 2015 8:44 AM

      My body is ready...

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      June 16, 2015 8:56 AM

      I hope to see some fun stuff here. The bummer for me will be amibo coverage.

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      June 16, 2015 8:56 AM

      I'm liking the Mario music while waiting for it to start

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      June 16, 2015 9:00 AM

      EVERYBODY SHUT UP

      It's starting

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      June 16, 2015 9:01 AM

      This is hilariously great.

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      June 16, 2015 9:01 AM

      Oh boy. Intro music.

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      June 16, 2015 9:01 AM

      haha.. the fucking walk. lol Oh man, what is going on.

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      June 16, 2015 9:01 AM

      This is the most Nintendo thing ever and its great

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      June 16, 2015 9:01 AM

      Youtube started on time, Twitch started it late

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      June 16, 2015 9:01 AM

      Oh god, this is adorable. Reggie doing press ups haha. "Nintendo 63... Nintendo 64..."

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      June 16, 2015 9:01 AM

      uhm

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      June 16, 2015 9:02 AM

      Muppet iwata and reggie!

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      June 16, 2015 9:02 AM

      I don't care about the games. Nintendo just won E3.

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      June 16, 2015 9:02 AM

      So many gifs...

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      June 16, 2015 9:02 AM

      Zelda and now starfox chars...

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      June 16, 2015 9:02 AM

      haha yes, Star Fox

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      June 16, 2015 9:03 AM

      This is amazing!

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      June 16, 2015 9:03 AM

      Is youtube streaming this?

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      June 16, 2015 9:04 AM

      That looked cool.

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      June 16, 2015 9:05 AM

      Starfox! UNF!!!

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      June 16, 2015 9:07 AM

      I do really enjoy how they are talking about what inspired them. Seems really genuine.

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      June 16, 2015 9:08 AM

      Better quality on Youtube btw

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        June 16, 2015 9:09 AM

        I just switched Twitch to "source" and it looks great.

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        June 16, 2015 9:09 AM

        Yeah seriously, their E3 coverage has been a great start for YouTube Gaming, love their hub too.

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      June 16, 2015 9:12 AM

      i doubt have much hope, but the two games i'd love to see are a new quality Metroid and a new F-Zero

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        June 16, 2015 9:13 AM

        Both are rumored. Supposedly someone outside of Nintendo was tasked with making a Captain Falcon game. I heard it was Platinum Games, but who knows. It's probably all BS.

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      June 16, 2015 9:13 AM

      Global sharing with friends in Mario maker.

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      June 16, 2015 9:16 AM

      muppet shiggy/iwata/reggie is just the best

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        June 16, 2015 9:17 AM

        I'm not even a huge Nintendo fan but that's so damn cute.

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      June 16, 2015 9:16 AM

      Yesssss, This looks great!

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      June 16, 2015 9:18 AM

      These developer stories isn't making it look good in terms of announcing games... More like filling time

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      June 16, 2015 9:18 AM

      I loved Nintendo as a kid but I find there stuff so weird since the wii.

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      June 16, 2015 9:20 AM

      interesting that this is pure digital/pre recorded. you can do more - like the dev stories, but you lose some of the energy of a live crowd. not sure how I feel about it yet

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        June 16, 2015 9:22 AM

        They've been doing this for a few years now, I prefer it.

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          June 16, 2015 9:24 AM

          Yeah me too, who cares about the crowd? This approach works great, you can do more cool stuff and avoid risking live snafus.

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        June 16, 2015 9:23 AM

        i've only caught a couple of the conferences so far but yesterday's early ones were a lot of forced and sparse clapping that seemed a little awkward.

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          June 16, 2015 9:24 AM

          i felt like the cheers at the Beth and Xbox and Sony were right in line. I don't mind the live, scripted stuff that comes off a bit wooden - but then I am used to that at all the conference keynotes I go to.

          This just doesnt have the energy

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        June 16, 2015 9:25 AM

        I way prefer it. No forced laughs waiting for the crowd. You don't have to worry about things going bad.

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      June 16, 2015 9:20 AM

      A 4 player totem was too tall Lol

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      June 16, 2015 9:24 AM

      I really like my Wii U but at the same time dislike the goofy ass main menu system on it. its just annoying to me. I wish they would update it to something more sensible. :(

      this part of it http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/117/2012/11/Wii-U-menu-02.jpg

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        June 16, 2015 9:24 AM

        Ive never even used that menu before. I just use the other one.

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          June 16, 2015 9:25 AM

          yeah I really dont use it and use the gamepad menu but I still dont like it lol

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        June 16, 2015 9:25 AM

        didn't they fix that with the quick menu on the gamepad?

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      June 16, 2015 9:24 AM

      So Blast Ball was a Metroid spinoff... I hope that's not the only time we see it.

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      June 16, 2015 9:24 AM

      This is not the Metroid we asked for.

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      June 16, 2015 9:25 AM

      Ugh. I hope that's not it for Metroid.

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      June 16, 2015 9:25 AM

      lol please tell me that isn't the only metroid in development.

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      June 16, 2015 9:26 AM

      ok this is a good time to head off and get some work done...

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      June 16, 2015 9:26 AM

      WTF is that?!

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      June 16, 2015 9:26 AM

      I really hope that was not the rumored Metroid for 3DS.

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      June 16, 2015 9:27 AM

      Sooooo Japanese.

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      June 16, 2015 9:27 AM

      Boobs.

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      June 16, 2015 9:27 AM

      Must have GOTY right here.

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      June 16, 2015 9:28 AM

      Ahh there's our bespectacled teacher with huge boobs.

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      June 16, 2015 9:29 AM

      Is it just me or does muppet Iwata look like Chris Remo?

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      June 16, 2015 9:29 AM

      That mirage game would have been far better with Baby Metal ...

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      June 16, 2015 9:29 AM

      The bananas!

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      June 16, 2015 9:29 AM

      It's only an hour right?

      Half way through and only two new games I care about. xenoblade and starfox

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        June 16, 2015 9:30 AM

        Yeah more Wii U games please, I don't have a 3DS so I don't care about any of these :(

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        June 16, 2015 9:31 AM

        The only 2 Wii U games they've shown.

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      June 16, 2015 9:30 AM

      12/4/15 for Xenoblade Chronicles X

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      June 16, 2015 9:33 AM

      Haha Dan Rykert is so happy for a party game.

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      June 16, 2015 9:33 AM

      I'm a sucker for the Animal Crossing games but neither of these look interesting. I wish they would create a new one for the Wii U.

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      June 16, 2015 9:34 AM

      GIMME THOSE YARN CHARACTERS

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        June 16, 2015 9:35 AM

        That's so cool they made them all, even level parts

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      June 16, 2015 9:37 AM

      SAMUS YOSHI

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      June 16, 2015 9:38 AM

      more 3ds :(

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      June 16, 2015 9:38 AM

      CREEPY

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      June 16, 2015 9:38 AM

      I want so many muppet gifs

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      June 16, 2015 9:41 AM

      They've got zero megatons this year.

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      June 16, 2015 9:41 AM

      Wow. Mario Tennis. Didn't expect that. Seems like a mini-game though. Downloadable probably.

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      June 16, 2015 9:42 AM

      WHO IS DESIGNING?

      OH NO CAT IS DESIGNING HOW CAN THAT BE?

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      June 16, 2015 9:43 AM

      Super Mario maker, for cats

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      June 16, 2015 9:43 AM

      Narrator is creepin me out, yo.

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      June 16, 2015 9:44 AM

      So has Nintendo just run completely out of ideas or am I missing something?

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        June 16, 2015 9:46 AM

        I'm not watching but the lack of buzz in this thread is not encouraging - excited for Mario maker though

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        June 16, 2015 9:48 AM

        Nail on the head. They are filling the show with so much BS

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      June 16, 2015 9:49 AM

      This is shaping up to be the worst digital event in recorded history.

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      June 16, 2015 9:50 AM

      Holy hell was that bad.

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      June 16, 2015 9:50 AM

      Starfox is literally the only thing I cared about here. And this montage.... I don't even know.

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      June 16, 2015 9:50 AM

      Looks like no mainline new games were announced. No mention of New 3DS either. I can only hope the NX comes out next year and they're saving it all for that.

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        June 16, 2015 9:51 AM

        One can hope their new console launches with a stellar line up. Doubtful though we'll see another SNES quality line up out the gate

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      June 16, 2015 9:50 AM

      Stream freeze for anyone else? Or was that it?

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        June 16, 2015 9:52 AM

        Never mind its back. My new Asus router needs to hurry up and arrive!

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      June 16, 2015 9:50 AM

      That was horrible. Wii U dead.

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      June 16, 2015 9:51 AM

      That was it?

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      June 16, 2015 9:51 AM

      Please WiiU Music, Please WiiU Music, Please WiiU Music

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      June 16, 2015 9:51 AM

      This is duuuuumb.

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      June 16, 2015 9:51 AM

      that was a polished event, but it also cemented my belief that Nintendo has nothing that interests me today. Between the whimsical that I just dont feel and the japanese influence that I never really cared for, I didn't see anything tha tmakes me want to buy Nintendo hardware or games.

      I know many of you love Nintendo and will buy Super Mario Maker and Starfox, and I hope they are awesome.

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      June 16, 2015 9:51 AM

      not a single game i'm interested in, god damn

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      June 16, 2015 9:52 AM

      "The Hold Everything Back for NX Event"

      Man, that sucked. At least we get StarFox. :(

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        June 16, 2015 9:55 AM

        I can't wait to share Mario Maker levels with teh shack. Would love if they could capture the thrill of the NWC through Online play even if it meant taking turns attempting the level or time trials and such. Oh wells

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          June 16, 2015 10:01 AM

          They really sold me on Mario Maker. Didn't even give a damn a couple days ago. Now it's pretty much an immediate buy.

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      June 16, 2015 9:53 AM

      Wow they didn't show much of anything today, this was very disappointing. Really surprised they didn't show us any of Miyamoto's new games.

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        June 16, 2015 9:55 AM

        This year they decided to only show games that were going to be out in 2015. 6 months isn't a lot, unfortunately

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          June 16, 2015 9:57 AM

          Sure, but I'm also surprised that none of those are slated for this year. Looks to be a very very dry year for Wii U.

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            June 16, 2015 9:57 AM

            Almost everything they showed today is coming out this year. Exception is Fire Emblem

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              June 16, 2015 10:00 AM

              Yeah, holidays 2015 or earlier.

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              June 16, 2015 10:01 AM

              Sorry, I meant that none of the Miyamoto games are coming this year. I understand that everything shown today (which wasn't much of anything for Wii U) is coming out this year.

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      June 16, 2015 9:53 AM

      Why did I even stay up? They started off with a bang and fizzled out so quickly. I really hope that they are holding things back so the NX comes out with a tonne of launch games, otherwise they are just straight up done.

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      June 16, 2015 9:53 AM

      I enjoyed the shit out of that, I'm not buying it all but damn I smiled the whole time.

      This E3 has been so good.

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        June 16, 2015 9:55 AM

        Same here. Star Fox, Mario Maker, Xenoblade and Yoshi's Woolly World all look good. Yeah, it wasn't as flashy as the other conferences but I don't care.

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          June 16, 2015 9:58 AM

          All Wii U games we knew were coming out... Really weak show

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            June 16, 2015 10:05 AM

            But here's the thing, if you were in control of Nintendo, would you be releasing any games for Wii U, or should I say, any games with multi-million dollar budgets?

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        June 16, 2015 4:07 PM

        I'm right there with ya.

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      June 16, 2015 9:53 AM

      Boy, that sure was unexciting. Glad to have a XBX release date though.

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      June 16, 2015 9:54 AM

      Well I loved 4-swords so the 3ds link game has me excited. That and starfox were kind of it though :(

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      June 16, 2015 9:55 AM

      Ugh. So many 3DS titles, next to no Wii U surprises. I guess the people saying NX launching 2016 might be right after all.

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        June 16, 2015 9:55 AM

        Also that Metroid title.... groan. :(

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        June 16, 2015 9:57 AM

        No chance its 2016

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        June 16, 2015 9:58 AM

        Yeah they are all in on the 3DS, barely any Wii U games. Shouldn't surprise me I guess but I am still sad.

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        June 16, 2015 9:59 AM

        And they will be behind the curve yet again if that is the case. WiiU was underpowered from the beginning and major developers don't put their games on it.

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          June 16, 2015 10:01 AM

          They'll be ahead for a few years instead of just one this time. Imo the way Nintendo likes to do hardware they should always release about 2 years after the competition.

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            June 16, 2015 10:08 AM

            That is if they exceed the power of the ps4/xone which is probably unlikely given their track record.

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              June 16, 2015 11:05 AM

              They exceeded the 360/ps3, albeit not by enough. Weird thermal envelope hangups aside it should be doable.

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      June 16, 2015 9:56 AM

      this is what a dying console event looks like

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      June 16, 2015 9:57 AM

      Where was Devil's Third? Wii U Dead.

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      June 16, 2015 10:00 AM

      I guess I just don't understand the audience they are making these games for. Nothing looks engaging to me besides Xenoblade and Fire Emblem, but even them won't make me buy a system.

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      June 16, 2015 10:01 AM

      Is that it? Well, the puppets were the best bit of that whole thing, tragic.

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      June 16, 2015 10:01 AM

      I was disappointed with Starfox, it looked real ugly compared even to the 3DS version. That leaves Xenoblade for this year, Zelda next year and then that's probably it before the NX is released.

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        June 16, 2015 10:03 AM

        Yep not really liking the gameplay on the starfox demo. Xenoblade is the only thing to be excited for this year for Wii U

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          June 16, 2015 10:04 AM

          Well mario maker, but I don't think i'm going to get it

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        June 16, 2015 10:03 AM

        The graphics didn't bother me, but aiming with the gamepad? Come on.... I was so hyped for a new Starfox, too. T_T

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        June 16, 2015 10:05 AM

        I'm not even sure Zelda is a Wii U game anymore. If it is, I bet they do the Twilight Princess thing where they split it on both consoles.

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          June 16, 2015 10:09 AM

          You could be right which is why they didn't show it this year at all.

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          June 16, 2015 10:10 AM

          which will make it a mediocre showcase for new hardware

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            June 16, 2015 10:12 AM

            Yeah, but they'll probably have a strong lineup. I feel like they held everything back.

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              June 16, 2015 10:17 AM

              Nintendo has historically struggled to align their first party software with hardware launches and that was with 3-5 years of well predicted lead time. Now they're going to have a sudden pivot to new hardware for a bunch of games that were already 1-2 years into targeting Wii U hardware or new projects targeting the in development hardware that they've historically struggled to time correctly. I doubt it'll go better this time.

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          June 16, 2015 10:12 AM

          Yeah you could be right, but then I was hoping the NX would be a step up in power over the Wii U and so I hope its not another Twilight Princess deal.

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      June 16, 2015 10:05 AM

      Every year hype for Nintendo. Every year suckage. :)

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      June 16, 2015 10:05 AM

      Here are my thoughts on the event, for anyone interested.

      While I found the presentation itself underwhelming, I'm pretty excited for the line-up for the 2015 fall and holiday seasons. I've been interested in Yoshi's Wooly World and Star Fox (Zero) for a while; those are both day-one buys. Super Mario Maker looks better and better, and is a contender for my game of the year--depending, of course, on how easy it is to share courses. Sharing is critical. I don't foresee spending much time BUILDING courses. I'll mess around with the tools because they look easy to pick up, but I'm more interested in PLAYING other people's levels.

      Zelda: Triforce Heroes for 3DS looks like a spiritual successor to Four Swords Adventures and should be a lot of fun. I'll probably pick up two copies so MY WIFE and I can play together. Along the same lines, I've held off on buying Hyrule Warriors for Wii U, and I might carry that purchase over to two 3DS copies. HW always struck me as an ideal portable game, so the move to 3DS seems like a good fit.

      That's the good. The bad? Almost everything else. It seems obvious that Nintendo is content to let the Wii U coast until they pull back the curtain on the NX console, which is likely to happen during next year's E3. And you know what? I'm fine with that. The Wii U is almost 3 years old, and the library is strong. Not as strong as it needs to be, but still solid.

      The more I think about what we did and didn't see, coupled with the sparse line-up for the first and second quarters of 2016, the more I'm thinking that Nintendo is holding several aces up its sleeve for NX. Zelda U was conspicuous in its absence. Nintendo did announce months ago that Zelda wouldn't make an appearance. Maybe it will come out on Wii U. Or maybe they're holding it back for NX. There's a precedent for this: Nintendo announced Zelda: Twilight Princess for the GameCube, delayed it several times, and ended up launching the game on the Wii, following up with the long-awaited GameCube version later on. I don't think it unreasonable to speculate that a similar scenario could unfold with Zelda U: reserve it for the next console, then push out a Wii U version later, or not at all.

      So, yes, the conference itself was a letdown, and the Wii U is a raft sinking slowly but surely. But if at least some of those games didn't excite you, you might want to think seriously about turning in your gamer card.

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        June 16, 2015 10:10 AM

        Wii U is 3 years old on paper but most of us didn't buy one until Mario Kart or SSB. For us, it stings pretty bad knowing that this console that was just purchased is pretty much dead after next year.

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          June 16, 2015 10:12 AM

          That's all relative to how much time you get out of the console. One could argue that the PS4 and Xbox One are just starting to show signs of life, and they will be 2 years old this fall.

          Plus, if you only bought a Wii U recently, who says you can't plunder the back catalog? You have nearly 3 years of titles to pick through, plus the stuff on the eShop.

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          June 16, 2015 10:12 AM

          Yep. This right here. I've already sold off mario kart and SSB the console is next sadly before the price plunges. Too bad because I wanted to played the xenoblade

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          June 16, 2015 10:14 AM

          It has the strongest console library by a lot right now. Your games don't self destruct when a new console comes out, especially given that the first year of a console is almost always the worst.

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            June 16, 2015 10:20 AM

            for most people the gaming world no longer revolves around 10-15 Nintendo games. Yes the Wii U has a bunch of standout Nintendo games but most of the gaming world is also interested in Call of Duty, Madden, Assassin's Creed, etc and they're not giving up all those games just to get access to some underpowered Nintendo experiences. There's no shortage of stellar, whimsical games being produced by non-Nintendo studios now (even if they're not MS/Sony first party/exclusives) so it's increasingly easy to miss those games but still get your fill in those categories.

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              June 16, 2015 10:31 AM

              What sells and what is good are two different things. Big change of topic when we're switching from quality to sales.

              The franchises you name-checked are such shit. Equating surface-level whimsy with superior mechanics and gameplay is also missing the point.

              There are lots of great games on every platform. I own every console and a fast PC, and I stick with the idea that Wii U is a great primary or secondary system to any of those since there is almost complete crossover on all non-Nintendo platforms.

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                June 16, 2015 10:37 AM

                when you're building a platform what's good is useless if it isn't selling. Clearly gamers as a whole disagree with your assertion that the Wii U has the best library by a lot. Clearly a whole lot of people game primarily/only on a console and don't see it as a secondary device with their gaming PC.

                I'm not talking about surface level crap, I'm talking about actual great games. Things like Ori, Yarny, etc are great games whose atmosphere and feel used to be the purview of Nintendo alone. That's no longer the case. If I don't get to play NSMB I can still play Rayman, etc. Maybe you think the Nintendo versions are still better, but they're simply not better enough to move the needle. A 20% better platformer isn't enough to get someone to give up on 3rd party games.

                If Nintendo wants to make great games they're entitled to do that however they want. If they want to make a hardware platform then they have a lot of other concerns they need to take into account, like what actually sells and what gamers as a whole want. They keep trying to ignore those things and while the Wii had a gimmick that saved them from that mistake the Wii U doesn't and now it's a disaster. No one would've green lit the Wii U if you told them its current trajectory was the final plan.

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                  June 16, 2015 10:51 AM

                  Rayman Legends is the one big exception there. NSMB Wii U was also surprisingly mediocre.

                  I made a post about Yarny yesterday, I'm excited about it. I also haven't played it so I'm not going to say that it matches up. Ori was decent, pretty good.

                  "If they want to make a hardware platform then they have a lot of other concerns they need to take into account, like what actually sells and what gamers as a whole want."

                  That's a very conservative and marketing driven approach to things. You're entitled to think that's the way to go. That said, Nintendo pushing hardware interfaces is a part of their DNA and its not going anywhere. You can't just expect them to stop doing that, even if its easy in hindsight to say that something didn't work. Like, had the Wii (a console I didn't care for in the slightest) bombed it would be the easiest thing in the world to say that it was doomed to fail with the goofy remotes.

                  That's an incredibly one-dimensional way of looking at things.

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                    June 16, 2015 11:13 AM

                    There's really no need to actually go through the checklist of games. Pick different examples if it suits you. Journey/Flower, etc. The simple fact is the PC, Xbox and Playstation have more games than any one person can play and those games cover a diverse set of categories that they didn't in generations past. You no longer need a Nintendo console to play the good platformers. You no longer need a Playstation to play console RPGs (when JRPGs were it). You no longer need a PC/Xbox to play multiplayer FPS. There are too many great companies making great games for Nintendo to still get away with 'but we have Mario 4, Zelda whatever but no Madden, CoD, etc.' What you once missed by skipping Nintendo is increasingly filled by someone else, maybe even only to 80% of the same quality but that's close enough given the trade offs required. People simply aren't spending the money/space on a new console for that last 10-20% or those last 5-8 games.

                    That's a very conservative and marketing driven approach to things

                    You seem to be using marketing as some sort of pejorative here but it's simply business. Nintendo doesn't take on the enormous cost and risk of a hardware platform for funsies, they do it to make money, they do it with the expectation that big risks come with big rewards. It's not one dimensional, it's precisely the opposite. Nintendo is the one with tunnel vision here where they keep hammering the same strategy with mixed results. There are way more dimensions to making a game console now than 10 years ago and Nintendo has consistently failed to adapt to that. The Wii managed to survive that by providing differentiated content that actually was unavailable elsewhere (as opposed to the experiences I described earlier in this post which are no longer differentiated enough). With the Wii U they failed to identify a sufficiently differentiated piece of hardware but were unwilling to accept that and try to go toe to toe with MS/Sony on the new things gamers required. If their plan is to just try that again and risk repeating the process I don't think that's very good business. Nothing about the Wii U justifies making hardware/software other than the games Nintendo is still great at producing.

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                      June 16, 2015 11:25 AM

                      I agree that there are lots more opportunities to get great content. I also think it is unreasonable to expect that Nintendo would or even should stop trying to differentiate itself with their hardware. The industry needs a company like that which is willing to push hardware interfaces in the way they have since the original Game & Watch.

                      A more generic platform is much more likely to do better than something that is more unusual and risk taking. That's obvious. Its much less risky for all reasons we've gone over, but taking those safe bets isn't what Nintendo does. Call it a byproduct of the designers being in charge, but I don't think it's a bad thing.

                      We have three other generic platforms out there. Nintendo falling into line and becoming another one doesn't help anything IMHO.

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                        June 16, 2015 11:37 AM

                        We have three other generic platforms out there. Nintendo falling into line and becoming another one doesn't help anything IMHO.

                        Well I suppose that depends on your goals. It doesn't help most gamers by adding $200-300 entry cost to Nintendo games that for the most part aren't leveraging differentiated hardware the last couple generations. Maybe it helps the industry at large if you believe only Nintendo can deliver industry changing experiences but I'm not sure whether that's really true or worth the cost to everyone else.

                        If Nintendo wants to provide differentiated hardware then that's fine. If they want to do it in such a way that precludes them from also having standard controls/hardware (ie giving up on 3rd parties like now) then they need to assume they're a 2nd console and price the thing appropriately. But if you're planning to be the second console in the house then you have to price appropriately, which caps your ability to differentiate (ex you can't spend $100+ COGS on a controller that makes your console $300-350 if you're going to be console 2). Alternatively you try to provide differentiated hardware while also catering to 3rd parties with a control scheme and architecture they can work with. You gun for console #1 and price appropriately. Nintendo tried to straddle the line and got annihilated this time. The Wii U wasn't cheap enough to actually be a second console and actually sell enough volume to entice 3rd parties to make what are essentially exclusives. But it wasn't powerful enough or normal enough to entice the standard 3rd party offerings. I just don't know that they've actually recognized the problems they're creating for themselves with these strategies and that the value of their IP as a part of the total console offering is eroding (ie a console is more than just the value of its games now).

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                          June 16, 2015 4:15 PM

                          I think they ought to just follow Microsoft's enormously successful strategy with Xbox.

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                            June 16, 2015 4:54 PM

                            Losing billions and billions over the course of 15 years, pro strat

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          June 16, 2015 10:22 AM

          I bought one last September and was riding high on it for 6+ months. I have 7 or 8 great games and was playing it non-stop during that time. Coming off of that wave of games I figured E3 would reveal some stuff to play over the next few months, but it's looking like there's not going to be anything I care about until the fall. So yeah it stings.

          I mean, at the very least I thought they might announce some more Wii games on the eShop. Give me Pikmin 1 and 2 Wii or something!

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            June 16, 2015 10:23 AM

            the worst part for Nintendo is how this affects their next piece of hardware. Now the people who actually did go in early for them are going to be more reticent while the people who always hold out for longer will do what they always do.

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              June 16, 2015 12:29 PM

              I'm one of them. Thinking three times before getting an NX. If they can't commit to a system, then I won't support future systems.

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          June 16, 2015 10:28 AM

          I'd be shocked if the NX isn't backwards compatible with the Wii U, assuming it is in fact suppose to be a Wii U replacement.

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            June 16, 2015 10:30 AM

            New Wii U

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            June 16, 2015 10:31 AM

            that would be smart but they don't solve their 3rd party problem by continuing to use a different CPU architecture (which is what would make back compat easy to do). If they switch architectures then they either have to emulate (hard) or include Wii U hardware in there too (the Sony approach) which drives up costs.

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              June 16, 2015 10:35 AM

              Yep exactly. I'm hoping they have a solution though.

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              June 16, 2015 10:38 AM

              Could they create some sort of virtual machine or something? Or is that even worse than emulation?

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              June 16, 2015 10:39 AM

              The wii u hardware is so small and inexpensive already, not to mention theyre on 45nm, a die shrink and controller compatibility and they can include the whole thing in another box of equivalent size for minimal additional cost.

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                June 16, 2015 10:44 AM

                PS2 hardware was quite cheap by the time the PS3 shipped but Sony still quickly backed off shipping PS2 hardware in box. It may not be a huge cost but even $10 per unit means 10-100s of millions in costs.

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            June 16, 2015 10:35 AM

            i think it'd be way more important for them to get onto x86/amd than to keep b/c, hopefully they keep the wii-u gamepad/screen thingie compatible with the new hardware though

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          June 16, 2015 11:30 AM

          :( .. I just bought the Wii U less than a month ago.

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            June 16, 2015 11:36 AM

            Still has a pretty good line up. I enjoy mine.

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            June 16, 2015 11:58 AM

            Good stuff is still on its way and it has an excellent library to catch up on.

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      June 16, 2015 10:11 AM

      These people playing Star Fox are super annoying.

      Nice.

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      June 16, 2015 10:15 AM

      Starfox confirmed made by Platinum Games, confirmed made by the director of Bayonetta 2

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      June 16, 2015 10:19 AM

      I missed it, did they say whether Hyrule Warriors is for New 3DS or will it work with the OG model as well?

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        June 16, 2015 10:36 AM

        No. They only said it will have all the DLC and new Wind Waker content.

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          June 16, 2015 10:37 AM

          Ok thanks. Interested to try it out, but it's not worth getting a new 3DS for!

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      June 16, 2015 10:20 AM

      Man I totally missed this but skimming through the comments it seems that the WiiU is now on life support. :(

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        June 16, 2015 10:22 AM

        it's been on life support for awhile now, it was basically dead the moment they failed to break through in their second holiday season after already failing to leverage their year head start to gain meaningful marketshare

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          June 16, 2015 10:34 AM

          People don't seem to understand that Nintendo, by their own admission, is not trying to compete against Sony or MS. They're not worried about gaining or losing market share because they've created their own market.

          That narrative may change when they release NX, but it's been constant since the Wii.

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            June 16, 2015 10:36 AM

            My theory is that they're going to make a hybrid handheld/HDTV system. Mobile hardware will be cheap enough and fast enough, plus Nintendo solved latency-free local video streaming on the Wii U.

            All they have to do is reverse that by having the main console be the handheld and have an HDMI dongle that can also act as a base station for wireless controllers.

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              June 16, 2015 10:58 AM

              I think they're going for more cohesion. I'd bet on it just be a simple yet powerful console that works with a new mobile "Game Boy" or "DS" system. That's all separate. In addition to traditionally playing your games on the new NX, you'll also be able to play them on the new mobile system via the Wii U tech or.. you can also pull out your iPad or Android and use that as well.

              NX is going to be a platform and it's going to interface with everything. If you don't buy the Game Boy or whatever they'll call it, that's fine. You can still play games traditionally. And you can still play the mobile games on the NX because of it being a cohesive platform.

              If I were Nintendo, I'd also (at least) look into making it a Steam machine. That gives you an instant library and it takes the whole 3rd party issue right off your back from the start. I know that's a pipe dream, but this is kind of what Nintendo needs to get back into the game (no pun intended).

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                June 16, 2015 1:52 PM

                this sounds far too much like an extension of the Wii U strategy which was a mistake. All they'd have to do to enable that today is make the DS a castable endpoint like the Wii U controller and then gimp every game to work without sticks or buttons.

                A Steam machine isn't even worth considering.

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            June 16, 2015 10:39 AM

            Then Nintendo (and their fanboys) don't seem to understand that they don't get to define who they're competing with, their customers do.

            They're not worried about gaining or losing market share because they've created their own market.

            Their current market isn't big enough to justify the costs they're incurring to make it, so clearly they are worried about this.

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        June 16, 2015 11:17 AM

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      June 16, 2015 10:48 AM

      watching as a metroid fan http://i.imgur.com/zeywGxx.gif

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        June 16, 2015 10:50 AM

        Yeah, no Metroid for Wii U is rough

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        June 16, 2015 11:07 AM

        Haha yeah, I think I may have preferred hearing nothing at all about Metroid as opposed to the new (2?) game they announced for the 3DS. What a huge waste of an opportunity to come out with a quality 2D SP Metroid.

        /groan

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          June 16, 2015 5:37 PM

          From what I could tell, it's really just one game that has both a coop campaign, and a Qpong like competitive sports game mode.

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        June 16, 2015 5:38 PM

        hahaha

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      June 16, 2015 11:12 AM

      RUMOR KILLER: Miyamoto confirms that the next Zelda will be on Wii U. http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/16/e3-2015-the-legend-of-zelda-still-coming-to-wii-u

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        June 16, 2015 11:35 AM

        Doesn't kill anything. It'll be released for the NX too.

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          June 16, 2015 11:38 AM

          The rumor was that Zelda U would be released on NX at the expense of the Wii U version. I don't think that will be the case, either. If anything, we could have a Twilight Princess situation where the new console gets first dibs and the old hardware gets a version later on.

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            June 16, 2015 11:53 AM

            I expect that is exactly what will happen. WiiU version, then a NX Version released at or shortly after launch. That is if the NX is launching next year.

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              June 16, 2015 11:58 AM

              NX is 2017, reveal is next year

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                June 16, 2015 12:01 PM

                Could be reveal to christmas 2016 release, would like it to be 2017 though.

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                June 16, 2015 12:20 PM

                They haven't said the release date only that they will talk about it next year. I think Nintendo needs to move away from the WiiU especially with them really not having a great lineup of games in 2016 except for Zelda.

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                  June 16, 2015 12:21 PM

                  Not that a 2017 release would surprise me. But I think a Christmas 2016 release is more likely.

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                    June 16, 2015 1:16 PM

                    I think it's interesting that they refer to it as a "new dedicated game platform". Why not just call it a console.

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                      June 16, 2015 1:31 PM

                      I still like the theory the handheld and home console are merging. That is exactly what I want.

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                      June 16, 2015 1:49 PM

                      because it'll be a cross platform software service so your Nintendo iOS games are on the same network as your normal Nintendo games. Also because saying console kills every Wii U sale that they might still salvage.

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        June 16, 2015 11:50 AM

        I'm still willing to bet that it will be a launch title for the NX with a graphically stripped down WiiU version to come out too a la twilight princess.

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          June 16, 2015 1:30 PM

          If the NX is a hybrid handheld/console, then it won't be much more powerful than the Wii U. It will be very similar to the Twilight Princess situation.

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      June 16, 2015 1:52 PM

      How come nobody has mentioned the new Mario tennis for wiiu?! Looks awesome!

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        June 16, 2015 4:52 PM

        Last one for the 3ds was really mediocre, hope they learned from their mistakes.

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        June 16, 2015 6:54 PM

        I agree it looked fun, but they gave it a 30sec spotlight. I'm expecting it so be a cheap eshop download.

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