Doom not ready for formal announcement until next year

Bethesda wanted to dispel id trouble rumors

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The new Doom had its reveal at QuakeCon, but it was a somewhat strange one and exclusive to attendees. Bethesda's Pete Hines has explained why the company chose to unveil it that way, and when we'll be seeing more from Doom.

Apparently, it comes down to id Software being unprepared for a worldwide reveal. He told PC Gamer that the studio didn't want the footage to be picked apart at a time when "normally we wouldn't be showing this to anybody at all." So why bother showing footage to anyone, then? Hines said he wanted to dispel rumors of trouble at id, by sending a clear signal of its current project. 

"I really wanted to put something out there that, in a strong way, said, ‘id is working on something that we think is really cool,’" said Hines. "And we wanted ... to show something to [id Software fans] that gives them the confidence that it is still a viable studio that’s doing really cool stuff, that is making a game you want to play, and is treating Doom with the care and respect that you want.

For those who didn't attend QuakeCon, Hines said that normally the PR cycle for a game in this state would begin next year. He said plans can change, but he doesn't think they will, so those of us who didn't go to Texas might have to wait until 2015 for more on Doom. But hey, at least we'll get beta access eventually, right? 

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    July 21, 2014 7:30 AM

    Steve Watts posted a new article, Doom not ready for formal announcement until next year.

    Bethesda wanted to dispel id trouble rumors

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      July 21, 2014 7:43 AM

      "that it is still a viable studio" congratulations on ruining the entire message with one poorly conceived phrase

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        July 21, 2014 7:39 PM

        What's wrong with that phrase? It's a direct response to all the "id is dead" talk.

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      July 21, 2014 8:14 AM

      Hmm...It makes me wonder if it was really gameplay footage they were showing at Quakecon, or if it was just more proof of concept footage.

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        July 21, 2014 8:39 AM

        were you there?

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          July 21, 2014 9:55 AM

          Nope. But it all sounds very scripted, from the accounts online.

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            July 21, 2014 9:57 AM

            It wasn't anything like you are suggesting. I'm not saying that it means the game will be amazing or anything, but it certainly wasn't concept footage.

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              July 21, 2014 7:01 PM

              If they didn't want it picked apart, then it's not indicative of the final product and was very likely scripted. This happened with the Doom3 leaked alpha. Remember the pinky busting through the pipes?

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          July 21, 2014 7:39 PM

          If only there was a way they could dispel rumors and distribute a video "online" to people so they could "see" it.

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        July 21, 2014 9:43 PM

        It'll be like doom3 at e3 with scripted sequences that won't ship with the game =(

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      July 21, 2014 8:21 AM

      Wow, how hard is it to put together a Doom game?

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      July 21, 2014 8:48 AM

      They wanted to wait until the Oculus Rift is out.

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      July 21, 2014 8:52 AM

      After Wolfenstein I have faith, I want to believe.

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      July 21, 2014 10:36 AM

      How did. Nobody at quakecon manage to snag at least a cellphone video of it

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        July 21, 2014 1:14 PM

        I would have risked that for sure.

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        July 21, 2014 1:35 PM

        Lots of us did. Thing is, noone wants to be "that guy".

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          July 21, 2014 1:51 PM

          WH0A, share it!! SHARE IT!!!

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            July 21, 2014 1:53 PM

            No can do. I've been going to quakecon for years, and I plan on continuing to go.

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              July 21, 2014 1:53 PM

              man just send it to Wikileaks, they will protect you!! THE PUBLIC DEMANDS IT!!!!!!!!!!!

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              July 21, 2014 1:54 PM

              There are so many ways you can leak the footage while remaining anonymous.

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              July 21, 2014 3:23 PM

              tab: booooo

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              July 21, 2014 3:48 PM

              C'mon. Let the people see what the fuss was about.

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              July 21, 2014 4:39 PM

              lol i would be surprised to even see another quakecon

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              July 21, 2014 5:02 PM

              pff, lol

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                July 21, 2014 6:09 PM

                He probably watches it over and over again on his smart phone. I'll bet he's put over 40 hours into the pre-release "demo".

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              July 21, 2014 5:12 PM

              * B E T T E N H A U S E N T E A S E ' D * (See Giant Bombcast 10-02-2012, somewhere after the 2 hour mark)

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                July 21, 2014 5:22 PM

                (2:20:27, to be exact)

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                  July 21, 2014 8:57 PM

                  what

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                    July 21, 2014 9:24 PM

                    In the NBA Live 13 cancellation discussion, Brad said this about NBA Elite 11 "christ pose":

                    Brad: "I heard an amazing behind-the-scenes story about that."
                    Jeff: "Yeah... Yes. That is an amazing story."
                    Brad: "...I'm not supposed to repeat it." (laughs)
                    Jeff: "Ummm... "
                    Ryan: "Well, don't tease it on here, then, you dick!"
                    Brad: "...I know, I shouldn't have said that..."
                    Jeff: (awkwardly) "...Ummm..."
                    Patrick: "Pullin' a Shane Bettenhausen..."
                    Ryan: (imitating Shane Bettenhausen) "Oh, I've got this amazing story, I can't tell you..."
                    Jeff: "...it's... it's a really good... anyway"
                    (everyone laughs)
                    Ryan: "FUCK YOU, TOO!"

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              July 21, 2014 6:21 PM

              uh? theres like a billion ways to upload things anonymously

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              July 21, 2014 7:04 PM

              You've let the cat out of the bag, if you weren't really thinking about sharing it then doubtful you would have even mentioned it. /source - psychiatrist obviously. not really.

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              July 21, 2014 7:35 PM

              Eh, good on ya.

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                July 21, 2014 7:41 PM

                Going by his thought process, didn't he break the trust of the 'con by recording footage? Couldn't he have been kicked out for it? Why would he record the video if he wasn't planning on sharing it? This all doesn't add up.

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                  July 21, 2014 7:47 PM

                  It's attention-grabbing bullshit. And it worked.

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                  July 21, 2014 7:47 PM

                  So he should correct his mistake by making more mistakes? That makes even less sense.

                  Also, I wan't saying it was good he filmed the footage, but all you guys acting like he owes you people something is hilarious.

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                    July 21, 2014 7:58 PM

                    I am just trying to follow his thought process at this point which doesn't make sense. Sounds like he's making it all up.

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                    July 21, 2014 10:05 PM

                    One could argue that if you come to a thread where people are asking for footage and say you have footage, it's kinda implied that he owes us.

                    But he doesn't have footage. He's just fishing for attention, and it sure did work.

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                      July 21, 2014 10:21 PM

                      Wow, some of you guys are some bitter mother fuckers. I simply stated myself and several others in my area had taken some video, in no way did I ever insinuate that I was going to show it. I just confirmed that people had taken some when it was possible to get away with doing it. As big as this forum is on "respecting" things around here like dancing around piracy, being emotionally sensitive to just about everything, some of you guys sure seem pretty butt hurt . It's just a fucking video of some extremely early gameplay. All you guys would do is shit on it anyway. If you dont like that noone is leaking it for your benefit, please feel free to come to the event instead of bitching at people who did and got to see it.

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                        July 21, 2014 10:30 PM

                        I'm not bitter, I'm just calling a liar a liar. You and your real life friends don't have footage, and it was just an attention whorey post.

                        I also like below where you escalate to no one having real life friends but you.

                        Pot, may I introduce kettle.

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                          July 21, 2014 10:33 PM

                          Well then I guess you have it all figured out then dont ya :) Have a good evening.

                          Oh, also i didnt say me and my real life friends had video, I said I had video, that I want to SHOW my real life friends. Just wanted to clear that up, since it seems you misunderstood it.

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                  July 21, 2014 10:22 PM

                  Perhaps I want to show it personally to my friends? It wont require it getting back around to anyone if im showing it to them in person. Pretty big difference, but should be easily figured out. Then again, that would imply that you understand the socializing in real life thing.

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                    July 22, 2014 4:31 AM

                    Still doesn't add up to me. I guess I don't care at this point.

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              July 21, 2014 9:22 PM

              Is there an NDA you have to sign. WTF is this? Now I wish I went - I would've recorded it.

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          July 21, 2014 2:50 PM

          >:(

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          July 21, 2014 6:51 PM

          I still think that instead of cutting the feed, the should have turned the cameras around and filmed the audience reaction. That room was insane.

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          July 22, 2014 1:11 PM

          Vids or it didn't happen?

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        July 21, 2014 3:24 PM

        I'm guessing it was the same as QuakeCon 2009 for the Rage video: they had bouncers all around the audience to seize and destroy any cameras or phones pointed at the screen.

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      July 21, 2014 10:38 AM

      Let the Wolfenstein guys have all the old id properties.

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      July 21, 2014 11:10 AM

      Wait, what? http://doom.com/en-us/

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        July 21, 2014 11:12 AM

        I guess they're saying this is a teaser so it doesn't count as a reveal?

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          July 21, 2014 1:15 PM

          Yeah, that's just the teaser that was released a while back.

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        July 21, 2014 2:18 PM

        The footage at quakecon was several minutes of gameplay (I wasn't there, but press impressions made it sound like 10ish minutes), not some text and a door opening.

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      July 21, 2014 4:00 PM

      I have to wonder: if I were to ask Nick Breckon about his days of working under Pete Hines, would I get a Nick Breckon Sigh?

      Hines has been in that job for at least 5 years, probably more, and he is a master concocter of PR. Remember the PR windup to masterpieces like Brink, Rogue Warrior and Wet?

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      July 21, 2014 4:52 PM

      "And we wanted ... to show something to [id Software fans] that gives them the confidence that it is still a viable studio that’s doing really cool stuff"

      You didn't show anything to the fans you asshole. Why would you show the teaser trailer at E3 and then fuck everyone in the ass. Go fuck yourself. At least you could have shown it to the people with Doom beta access.

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        July 21, 2014 7:10 PM

        U mad?

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        July 21, 2014 7:10 PM

        lol relax.

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        July 21, 2014 7:18 PM

        MAD ABOUT VIDEOGAME PRERELEASE VIDEOS

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        July 21, 2014 7:46 PM

        A little angrier than I'd have put it, but ultimately I agree.

        It's not a good sign when what you show a selection of die-hard fans isn't good enough for the general public.

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        July 21, 2014 7:46 PM

        I actually am a little mad.

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        July 21, 2014 8:56 PM

        Excuse my language, but you need to grow the fuck up. Entitled much? They don't have to show you anything until they want too.

        I think it's awesome they rewarded the fans who went to quakecon. Makes the event all the more special.