Star Wars: The Old Republic getting same-sex romances post-launch

BioWare has announced that same-sex relationships with NPCs will arrive in the Star Wars MMORPG after launch, after previously saying that there would be none.

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Though Star Wars: The Old Republic has wooing, romance, and all that soppy stuff one would expect from a BioWare game, the developer had so far said that the MMORPG would only allow coupling with NPCs of the opposite sex, not same-sex pairings. Delightfully, it's now changed its mind, announcing that same-sex romance will be added post-launch.

The revelation comes from an official statement posted on the game's official forums (via Rock, Paper, Shotgun):

Due to the design constraints of a fully voiced MMO of this scale and size, many choices had to be made as to the launch and post-launch feature set. Same gender romances with companion characters in Star Wars: The Old Republic will be a post-launch feature. Because The Old Republic is an MMO, the game will live on through content expansions which allow us to include content and features that could not be included at launch, including the addition of more companion characters who will have additional romance options.

BioWare does seem to be revising history slightly, as its past talk of same-sex relationships in The Old Republic made no mention of any plans or desire for them. "Same-sex romances are not in Star Wars: The Old Republic," producer Cory Butler answered curtly when asked about same-sex romances on BioWare's own 'BioWare Pulse' show at Gamescom in August, without the slightest hint that there was more to it.

As RPS notes, it certainly doesn't help matters that, in 2009, a BioWare community manager declared that the words "gay" and "lesbian" were banned on the SWTOR forums because, "these are terms that do not exist in Star Wars." Unsurprisingly, this offensive policy was soon lifted.

Still, that's over and done with now, and same-sex relationships will arrive in The Old Republic some time after launch. This approach might run the risk of leaving those relationships feeling slightly hollow, though.

The story side of the MMO is being pushed heavily, as it's always one of BioWare's main focuses, and an important part of this is players' relationships with their NPC chums. Players wishing to role-play a same-sex relationship will have no partner to share their adventures with as they first start exploring the galaxy at launch, while those opting for opposite-sex hippity-dippitty will get to discover love along with the game. It'll be difficult for BioWare to introduce new characters in ways that can capture the same excitement as when everything is shiny and new.

From The Chatty
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    September 14, 2011 5:15 PM

    Alice O'Connor posted a new article, Star Wars: The Old Republic getting same-sex romances post-launch.

    BioWare has announced that same-sex relationships with NPCs will arrive in the Star Wars MMORPG after launch, after previously saying that there would be none.

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      September 14, 2011 5:18 PM

      Excellent, I was beginning to think exploring a lesbian romance with my strictly female rpg toons wouldn't be possible.

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      September 14, 2011 5:21 PM

      lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol.

      Anyways, how will "relationship" be expressed in the game? Couldn't two gay lovers just hang out and quest together anyways?

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        September 14, 2011 5:29 PM

        They're talking about the AI compainions.

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        September 15, 2011 6:10 AM

        I'm pretty sure that would contradict the Defense of Marriage Act

        and make baby Jesus cry :(

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      September 14, 2011 5:31 PM

      Sweet! Now I can go shoot wamp rats then go back to my ship to have butt sex. I love Star Wars.

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      September 14, 2011 5:36 PM

      The gay is strong with this one.

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      September 14, 2011 5:43 PM

      This conversation stayed mature about as long as I'd expect

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        September 14, 2011 5:50 PM

        It stayed mature about how long a topic like this would deserve.

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          September 14, 2011 6:01 PM

          God forbid there be some homolove in a game.

          Because all homosexuals are just little kids being retards, and should be treated with that level of respect.

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      September 14, 2011 5:49 PM

      I'm looking forward to the Fox News coverage of this.

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        September 14, 2011 6:02 PM

        In this subthread we come up with the eventual Fox News headline about this. I humbly offer " Liberal Death Simulator Company Recalls Star Wars. Replaces With Gay. Hip Hop Muslim, Obama Approves (Probably)"

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          September 14, 2011 6:09 PM

          There's not much that could beat "(SE)XBOX", which is what they used for Mass Effect. They might just use that again.

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          September 14, 2011 6:12 PM

          Star Wars: The SOCIALIST Republic

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          September 14, 2011 7:01 PM

          Force Sex, or Forced Sex? How Our children are learning to rape their peers with their minds.

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          September 14, 2011 7:27 PM

          Star Wars fans greeted to new forced homosexual lifestyles in upcoming Lucas Arts online game.

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          September 14, 2011 10:20 PM

          Star Wars: The Gayteway Game

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          September 15, 2011 3:40 AM

          That IS a moon.

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          September 15, 2011 4:14 AM

          Star Wars: The Gay Old Democrat Agenda.

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      September 14, 2011 5:57 PM

      gaaaaaaay.....oh wai.

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      September 14, 2011 6:00 PM

      As someone who spends more time than I care to admit on the SWTOR official boards, it's remarkable how much backlash there was when they announced that same-sex romance wasn't in... A good chunk of the game's (terrible) community was in an uproar, they really didn't have much choice.

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        September 14, 2011 7:48 PM

        yeah it was pretty messed up. Probably worse then the backlash for the Sept Beta weekend screw up.

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      September 14, 2011 6:03 PM

      Bye bye 12+ rating.

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      September 14, 2011 6:05 PM

      It's amusing that Bioware has turned this into a "thing" for their games. Corny.

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        September 14, 2011 6:08 PM

        its probably an unintended consequence of letting you romance npc's and also letting you pick your gender

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          September 14, 2011 6:11 PM

          Unintended consequence? So letting homosexuals have romance options is something they have to make apologies for? What is the general age of Shacknews users? Ten?

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            September 14, 2011 6:14 PM

            They should stop worrying about intergalactic homo sex and worry about their poor gameplay design.

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              September 14, 2011 6:23 PM

              Indeed they should. But if they are going to have romance, they might as well make it equal opportunity. I'm not even gonna play the game (Much like I don't play -any- bioware game), but I'm tired of this immature LOL HOMOS attitude going around now. Kids think its so edgy and cool to be bigoted.

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            September 14, 2011 6:44 PM

            I think what he means is that if you're going to let people pick their gender AND romance certain NPCs, the idea of allowing homosexual relationships is bound to come up, since it's so easy to implement.

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              September 14, 2011 6:49 PM

              yea this is what i meant. i believe it is why they tackled it before other games did

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                September 14, 2011 6:58 PM

                Oh, my mistake! I just get so jumpy. I didn't mean to snarl at you unneededly (totally not how you spell that, or maybe not even a word)

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                September 15, 2011 4:04 AM

                Eh older games dealt with homosexuality before. I remember as back as Ultima 7 (1992), maybe even before.

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        September 14, 2011 7:44 PM

        it's really not their fault. There has been a a series of forum posts demanding, begging, attacking, pleading, etc for BioWare to have this in the game once their learned it was out.

        In the end they got tired of it.

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          September 14, 2011 8:49 PM

          Well, I *heard* that it could get annoying because the companion dialog tree's remained relatively untouched based on the players gender ... so when you went down the "romantic" line with same sex it just felt wrong.

          Had they completely removed anything of the sort it would have been at least less weird than the way it was.

          However I think just allowing it is the best option given the way the game plays (or so I hear).

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        September 15, 2011 3:38 AM

        Time to update the Bioware generic story table with a column for token gay characters.

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      September 14, 2011 6:05 PM

      i look forward to the minigames

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      September 14, 2011 6:18 PM

      Have there been any gay characters in the star wars books/movies? Other than Luke Skywalker of course.

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        September 14, 2011 6:20 PM

        Jar Jar Binks, Chewbacca. Boba Fett.

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        September 14, 2011 8:03 PM

        Mon Mothma was totally a lesbian.

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          September 14, 2011 8:52 PM

          Naw she and Ackbar had a thing in one of the books.

          I'm not kidding and it wasn't fanfic.

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            September 14, 2011 9:22 PM

            Many libidos died to bring us this information...

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        September 14, 2011 10:21 PM

        The whole clone army. There were millions of guys and no women on the plant they were grown and trained on

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          September 14, 2011 10:37 PM

          The clone army was also a eunuch army. :(

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      September 14, 2011 7:36 PM

      Polygamy DLC.

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      September 14, 2011 7:46 PM

      Also just in case anyone is interested. The Beta Weekend Program is going to start back up again.

      Official:
      http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=9120239#edit9120239

      Our blah...
      http://www.talesfromtor.com/2011/09/so-you-want-to-be-beta-tester.html

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      September 14, 2011 7:48 PM

      gg Obama

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        September 14, 2011 7:51 PM

        BioWare is also providing free healthcare for those that play SWTOR.

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      September 14, 2011 7:58 PM

      Coming May 4, 2012.

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      September 14, 2011 7:59 PM

      I DON'T LIKE HOW THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING THIS. I don't like them making everyone polysexual. You have some straights, some gays, maybe the occasional bisexual, everything's good. But not just have everyone be a everything-sexual :(

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        September 14, 2011 8:02 PM

        I don't think thats going to be the case. My gut feeling is that the will just add this in a future expansion with one or two characters for each of the classes.

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          September 14, 2011 8:51 PM

          ^^ This is what I imagine is going to happen. Especially since its post-launch.

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        September 14, 2011 9:14 PM

        Are they forcing you to marry?

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      September 14, 2011 8:37 PM

      Aww yeah sexy head tail time

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      September 14, 2011 8:54 PM

      I wanna bang male ewoks

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      September 14, 2011 9:59 PM

      Anyone else wish we could get more real RPG elements and less romance simulation?

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      September 14, 2011 10:18 PM

      Great, Wookiee + Wookiee romance, the furries are going to love it.

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      September 15, 2011 12:02 AM

      Sounds like they were skirting the issue until they could communicate with LucasArts.

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      September 15, 2011 12:21 AM

      Lucas has really taken it to the next level

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      September 15, 2011 12:39 AM

      Yoda and my large saber. Yeeeeeah....

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      September 15, 2011 3:12 AM

      Wow...did they really have to add this crap in here!??? I am getting sick and tired of everyone thinking they have to address this subject in everything they do to be politically right! Annoyed with this, and totally against the move..this is not right at all.

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        September 15, 2011 3:34 AM

        to be fair, I wonder if they had to do much at all. They wanted to add relationships (which is dumb IMO) but now they don't have to do character gender checks. It's just the same option for everyone.

        unless they have a race restriction.

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        September 15, 2011 3:47 AM

        Please do explain why it's "not right at all" for a video game with romances to include same-sex romance.

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        September 15, 2011 4:02 AM

        "this crap"? how does it affect you? if you play a heterosexual character then it doesn't concern you.

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        September 15, 2011 4:03 AM

        If you read it again, they don't force your male character to marry a dude with fullscreen text saying "FAG"

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        September 15, 2011 4:16 AM

        We're having a weird transitional period where dudes like you are on the outside looking in for the trend of homosexual acceptance. I think if you start by understanding properly that this is not something that someone's done out of some begrudging and fearful obligation to being politically correct. For lots of folks - obviously not for you or your folks but other folks - homosexuality is an ambient and regular element of their culture, and having a game with hetero romance but not homo romance would be weird to them just like it's weird for you to have a game with gay themes of any kind.

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        September 15, 2011 4:20 AM

        i heard if you buy this game, you wake up with hard penis in your mouth

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        September 15, 2011 4:39 AM

        I can't think of a single game that wouldn't be improved by the addition of lesbians

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          September 15, 2011 4:40 AM

          well, maybe tetris

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            September 15, 2011 4:43 AM

            Tetris too, lesbians in various poses you have to "slot" together. perfect

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        September 15, 2011 4:42 AM

        "not right"? What the flying fuck do you mean? Gay people exist, not acknowledging that is not right you buffoon.

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        September 15, 2011 5:07 AM

        marry ma

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        September 15, 2011 5:10 AM

        poster secretly wants cock

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        September 15, 2011 5:29 AM

        Unlike what gigilecheshire thinks, the rest of the shack was mostly just joking about the OP, but what you said was actually pretty awful.

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        September 15, 2011 6:20 AM

        I didn't care at all, but now at least I'm amused.

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        September 15, 2011 10:22 AM

        Yup, the only same same sex is around is when its political.

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        September 15, 2011 2:01 PM

        What? The subjects of romance and love?

        Fine - you don't want any of those disgusting homosexuals in your videogames? Let's remove all romantic elements from any game in question. I certainly wouldn't want to expose any homosexuals to a hetereosexual agenda.

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      September 15, 2011 4:43 AM

      why are they bothering making statements about this stuff? just let it be possible in the game, theres no need to send out a goddamned announcement saying that its possible

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        September 15, 2011 5:05 AM

        no such thing as bad press!

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        September 15, 2011 5:05 AM

        Because BioWare had said it wouldn't be in the game, which upset people. Now it will be in the game, which pleases people.

        If they were included off the bat, I certainly wouldn't have posted anything about it, but reversing that decision is certainly noteworthy.

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          September 15, 2011 5:08 AM

          Ah, I didnt realize that there was history on the subject with this game.

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            September 15, 2011 5:09 AM

            I do mention it several times in the story, and in the summary post we're all posting beneath right now.

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              September 15, 2011 5:17 AM

              you should know better than anyone that we dont read articles

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                September 15, 2011 5:21 AM

                I know, but I do like to pretend someone cares every once in a while. And what a lark it was!

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          September 15, 2011 2:06 PM

          When trying to grasp what kind of person would be offended by this inclusion, I am only reminded of the scene between Sheriff Bart and Jim from Blazing Saddles when Bart is upset with how the townspeople are responding to him, based on his race.

          What did you expect? "Welcome, sonny"? "Make yourself at home"? "Marry my daughter"?

          You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.

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      September 15, 2011 5:08 AM

      I want to know if I can romance a droid. Why do they ignore robosexuals? :(

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        September 15, 2011 5:14 AM

        Nobody wants to get near your SCSI port, and I heard your bandwidth is low anyway.

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          September 15, 2011 5:18 AM

          we can't all have an ultra wide bus like you

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      September 15, 2011 5:10 AM

      Can I choose the length, girth and density of my penis at character creation?

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      September 15, 2011 5:39 AM

      I thought this was a star wars MMO not manass effect or dragayn age

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      September 15, 2011 5:47 AM

      As long as I can still romance Lacey Chabert, I don't care.

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      September 15, 2011 10:18 AM

      Hurt sex before butt sex. They need to take it to the max. Also wookies.

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      September 15, 2011 11:53 AM

      I have no problem with Bioware including the possibility for gay relationships in SW:ToR.

      I do have a problem with their implementation of relationships in general. I know that I felt like, in Mass Effect 2, in particular, if I said anything nice to a party member of the opposite sex, it seemed to immediately be translated in their head to "I'm easy... come have sex with me."

      Hopefully, they are a lot less ham-handed in ToR, with both hetero and homosexual relationships.

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        September 16, 2011 6:00 PM

        Yeah, I know what you mean. I played a Female Shepard and pretty well had to stop talking to Kaidan in fear of him trying to hump my leg...

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