Morning Discussion

After some discussion with Brian during work yesterday, we both decided to jump back into Forza Motorsport 3. Since racing is on the brain lately, what with titles like Need for Speed Hot Pursuit and Gran Turismo 5 making their way into our respective collections, we both realized that we skipped over the "Ultimate Collection" package for developer Turn 10's 2009 racing sim.

For $30 (or $40 if you're Canadian), you can grab the original Forza 3 and every downloadable car pack ever released--plus a few exclusive bonuses. Since I didn't have a copy of Forza 3 anymore (gave it to a charity around launch on behalf of my old home, Joystiq) and since I've been playing a lot of racing games lately, I decided it was a good investment. So far, I'm in gorgeous car heaven with these three games.

Oh, and much to my surprise/happiness, I searched "Shacknews" in the auction house and found some great vinyl sets--including the one in the image of this post. I don't know who made the original but whoever you are allow me to say, "Great job, sir/madam!"

From The Chatty
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    December 1, 2010 5:00 AM

    Wednesday Morning Minecraft Thread!
    Sleepy Edition!!!

    Guh

    Multiplayer Servers!
    MercFox1 : mercfox1.sytes.net / se.shkn.ws / shackeast.shkn.ws
    foo1 (PvP/PvE): 216.139.192.52 / foo1.shkn.ws / foo1.sytes.net
    Shadowdane (PvE) : shadowdane.shacknet.nu / sd.shkn.ws / shadowdane.shkn.ws
    m0rfus (PvP) : morfus.dyndns.org / morfus.shkn.ws
    Haxim (TNT) : asplode.dyndns.org / haxim.shkn.ws

    Teamspeak : ts.shackbattles.com:9987

    Whuh?

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      December 1, 2010 5:01 AM

      Guides and Utilities

      - Oizomapper! Map your single player or multiplayer levels! By mroizo40
      http://www.digitized-e.com/mroizo/OizoMapper.zip

      - Shackwiki Minecraft page!
      http://shackwiki.com/wiki/Minecraft

      Video Guides!
      - (Series) X's Adventures in Minecraft! Linked by zuff!
      http://tinyurl.com/2ah7sex
      Lots of useful info in here!

      - (Series) Minecraft Minecart Tutorials! Boosters! Track switches! Et cetera!
      http://tinyurl.com/2udl2lt

      - Water Physics Tutorial by Arctic Fox!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24127669#itemanchor_24127669

      Written Guides!
      - Beginner’s Guides to Minecraft, originally linked by at0micgarden!
      (Work in Progress) Guide to Alpha: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=17021
      How to Survive Your First Night: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=19065

      Shacker Help!
      - Things I Wish I’d Known, a retrospective by Ebu!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23608826#itemanchor_23608826

      - Linkmania! By zuff!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23514788#itemanchor_23514788
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23533536#itemanchor_23533536


      - Ores, and How to Find Them, by Fooldozer and CodeRedBeard!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23582115#itemanchor_23582115

      - Multiplayer Tips from BlackCat9
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23641449#itemanchor_23641449

      - Circle guides! More useful than they sound!
      http://www.agentpothead.com/minecraft/sphere.html linked/hosted by AgentPothead!
      http://www.shackpics.com/files/radii_even_to_100_pgzh2n77iabkgcmee93q.png hosted by Arctic Fox!

      - Beginner’s Guide to Redstone, links by The Grolar Bear!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24044649#itemanchor_24044649

      - And some generally useful keys to press!
      F11 - full screen!
      F3 (hold) - CPU/ memory usage bar! Spikes for CPU/ red box for memory, I think!
      F5 - third person mode!

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      December 1, 2010 5:02 AM

      on the ball! good job :)

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        December 1, 2010 5:33 AM

        I woke up with 1 minute left before the chatty changeover and nearly panicked!

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      December 1, 2010 5:04 AM

      NO TAG FAILURES?

      Not MY Dong Patrol!

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      December 1, 2010 5:09 AM

      So.. uh... I haven't been online for a few weeks. Just logged on to mercfox1 and I have no fucking clue what is going on. My build rights are gone, my inventory is empty, I have no idea where I am, and towns?

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        December 1, 2010 5:13 AM

        Mercfox is just like it was before, foo1 has towns and PvP/mobs enabled. Are you sure you logged on to the right server?

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          December 1, 2010 5:16 AM

          I tried shackeast.sytes.net, but that didn't work. mercfox1.sytes.net timed out, and se.shkn.ws and shackeast.shkn.ws both dumped in the same weird map with no inventory or anything.

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            December 1, 2010 5:20 AM

            se.shkn.ws and shackeast.shkn.ws have been redirected and actually lead to foo1 which is the PvP/damage server. MercFox1 seems to be down or at least refusing connections, maybe it hasn't been updated yet? foo will see this eventually and know what to do.

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        December 1, 2010 5:22 AM

        mercfox1.sytes.net is down. shackeast.sytes.net doesn't work anymore (changed to mercfox1). the old NWS links probably weren't updated, and so they point to the IP at foo1.sytes.net, which is the PVP/PVE server.

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      December 1, 2010 6:00 AM

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      December 1, 2010 6:18 AM

      What's the best solution for traveling to and from the bottom of the world?

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        December 1, 2010 6:30 AM

        ladders

      • Zek legacy 10 years
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        December 1, 2010 6:34 AM

        Probably a water elevator.

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          December 1, 2010 6:37 AM

          Are water elevators demonstrably faster than ladders?

          • Zek legacy 10 years
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            December 1, 2010 6:38 AM

            With a boat, yes, by a long shot.

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              December 1, 2010 6:42 AM

              On the old world, there was an example of a good water elevator that worked without a boat. Requires that you place glass around water, and then you touch the glass on the northeast side, and it somehow "elevates" you.

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                December 1, 2010 6:43 AM

                And by "old world", I mean the server at mercfox1.sytes.net / se.shkn.ws / shackeast.shkn.ws

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                December 1, 2010 6:49 AM

                Yeah, it kind of takes up a bit of space.. but that actually worked very well.

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                  December 1, 2010 7:11 AM

                  About the same as a watervator using a boat

                  â– â– 
                  â– â– â– 
                  â– â– â– 
                  â– â– 

                  â–  = corner you enter lift from
                  â–  = stone, dirt, containing block, etc.
                  â–  = flowing water
                  â–  = water source

                  Thats the first (and every odd layer thereafter). The second layer is dirt/stone/whatever to seal it and prepare for next layer. Only limitaiton: only one corner works as an elevator. You simply walk into it and/or hold jump. Going down is an issue as it is just falling. Placing a water block at the bottom will save you.

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          December 1, 2010 6:50 AM

          I don't know... I have a hard time with water elevators. Maybe I just need practice but half the time I fall out and other times my boat goes up without me. I guess I need to work on my technique.

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        December 1, 2010 6:45 AM

        Even with falling damage I think you can land in a 2 blocks deep pool of water and take no damage. A boat water elevator is a fast way to the top. I use this on my shackeast area. (been awhile since I logged in though)

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        December 1, 2010 11:16 AM

        I recommend digging a 2x1 shaft straight down. This has two advantages. First, it negates the risk of death if you reach a cavern or lava right beneath you. Second, you can place a ladder on every block on one side, and a ladder only on the bottom of the other side. Then from the top you can jump down the side with only 1 ladder on bottom and it will catch you right at the bottom.

        I don't think water elevators are worth the hassle. You have to have/build a boat to use it, and if you're like me, you never leave a mine without a full inventory, so you then you have to deal with shuffling your inventory a bit as well. Climbing a latter doesn't take That long.

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      December 1, 2010 6:43 AM

      Notch praised Dungeon Master 2 on his twitter. My respect for him went up a notch

      The first one is superior though.

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        December 1, 2010 6:44 AM

        I played the hell out of the original on my Amiga. It was tough as nails though.

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      December 1, 2010 6:43 AM

      Foo... how did you kill me with one single swing of your sword? Is that normal? Was that lag? Man.. I guess I suck at minecraft PvP.. I was getting RAPED last night. Then my house got blown up (but it's cool... nobody's fault.. it just exists to close to spawn).

      • foo legacy 10 years
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        December 1, 2010 6:46 AM

        Wasn't me, I only came on for 2 seconds today to see if my updates to the client worked (brown and bloom, ambient occlusion), then logged out

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          December 1, 2010 6:48 AM

          No.. last night...

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            December 1, 2010 7:14 AM

            He has a big PENIS

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              December 1, 2010 7:24 AM

              Hah. And you kicked my ass about 20 times as well. (my name is Slaughbart in the game)

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                December 1, 2010 7:36 AM

                Yeah that was my bad.....

                Sorry man :(

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                  December 1, 2010 7:46 AM

                  No worries. To be fair, I was fighting for a while just to have some fun. And my house (cave) is extremely close to the spawn. You didn't really have any way of knowing I wasn't fighting at the time.

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      December 1, 2010 7:19 AM

      I'm really happy with yesterday's patch. Friend and I played on our private server for about an hour last night and the SMP is finally starting to feel like SP does. Animals and monsters all died as quickly as they should, the sounds worked on the creepers/explosions, and arrows actually worked (for the most part).

      Still have lots of issues when a player dies, where they usually can't see the items they dropped until someone picks them up for them, and often they can't see the monsters anymore either. A quick disconnect/reconnect fixes it which takes no time at all, but it still sucks. I also have an issue where I can't see the leaves on an underground tree I'm growing, but the server must know they're there because it jerks me back when I try to walk through some areas. Other players can see it and if I disconnect/reconnect I can too...

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        December 1, 2010 7:20 AM

        I've noticed other sounds missing now. Button sound, touchplate sound, walking on sand sound and a few others.

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        December 1, 2010 12:30 PM

        I noticed that placing or removing torches sometimes reveals those hidden leaves.

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      December 1, 2010 7:20 AM

      Looking out a dirty old window.
      Down below the cars in the city go rushing by.
      I sit here alone and I wonder why.

      Friday night and everyone's moving.
      I can feel the heat but it's soothing.
      Heading down, I search for the beat in this dirty town.

      Down town the young ones are going.
      Down town the young ones are growing.

      We're the kids in America.
      We're the kids in America.
      Everybody live for the music-go-round.

      Bright ligths the music get faster.
      Look boy, don't check on your watch, not another glance.
      I'm not leaving now, honey not a chance.

      Hot-shot, give me no problems.
      Much later baby you'll be saying never mind.
      You know life is cruel, life is never kind.

      Kind hearts don't make a new story.
      Kind hearts don't grab any glory.

      We're the kids in America.
      We're the kids in America.
      Everybody live for the music-go-round.

      Come closer, honey that's better.
      Got to get a brand new experience.
      Feeling right.
      Oh don't try to stop baby.
      Hold me tight.

      Outside a new day is dawning.
      Outside Suburbia's sprawling everywhere.
      I don't want to go baby.
      New York to East California.
      There's a new wave coming I warn you.

      We're the kids in America.
      We're the kids in America.
      Everybody live for the music-go-round.

      We're the kids
      We're the kids
      We're the kids in America

      WHOAOAOAAAAAAAA

    • foo legacy 10 years
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      December 1, 2010 7:33 AM

      So here we are again, with the same old "do you and I view PVP differently" question.

      Last night, Panora Major was attacked by North Korea. Now, I don't know all of the details, other than it was a fair 3v3 fight.

      At some point during the fight, I don't know if the Panisites logged off, or gave up, but somehow the Koreans found themselves alone inside of Panora Majors central structure, wreaking havoc. They filled the vault with lava, destroying everything in it. They filled ramasule's logic room, which controlled the combolock, which is used to gain entrance to the vault with water, destroying it all. Ramasule spent at least a week working on that redstone logic, he is obviously disheartened. I didn't look for more damage, but I'm sure there is some.

      I'm not putting the blame on anyone. It could have been North Korea that started it, with the initial attack. It could have been Panisia, with their looting in retaliation. I don't care, to be honest. But is this something we chalk up to "it's a PVP server, live with it", or is this going a little too far? What are the acceptable limits? Are there any? Should there be any?

      Personally, this is not how I wanted PVP to be. I viewed it as "player versus player, while still respecting structures". Basically, kill players, do minimal damage to their towns/structures. However you may view it differently. To you, you may view PVP as a wide-open lawless society, where everything is fair game - players, and their work.

      This discussion is more about what is acceptable damage, is PVP even working, and where do we go from here?

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        December 1, 2010 7:36 AM

        [deleted]

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        December 1, 2010 7:42 AM

        The game has little to no rules as it is, let alone any set structure for PVP.

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        December 1, 2010 7:45 AM

        I thought we had settled on only destroying buildings if both sides agreed? I don't know what all that stuff was worth to the Panisites but that's pretty harsh.

        • foo legacy 10 years
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          December 1, 2010 7:48 AM

          The problem is, not everybody that plays reads these threads, so nobody really saw that discussion..

          Plus, it's also possible that the Koreans were invisible, due to the death bug, so the Panisites had no idea it was even happening

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            December 1, 2010 7:59 AM

            True. At any rate, destruction of buildings should not be allowed unless there are defenders around to defend it.

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        December 1, 2010 7:48 AM

        The problem is that in any society.. you need clearly defined rules.. otherwise the gray areas will always lead to pain and suffering. :) You can't assume people will be 'gentlemanly' and 'respectful' because history has shown... (in the immortal words of Ice-t) "shit aint like that".

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        December 1, 2010 7:49 AM

        Oh god that logic room was epic :(

        I think it is acceptable to kite creepers to get past doors but the outright destruction of entire buildings I wouldn't even contemplate.

        Now this is just me, but I spent about 40 hours on the prison structure according to the stats page. You kite creepers to get past my doors. Fine. That's maybe a hour or so to fix. Maybe more or less and that doesn't really bother me.

        But raising the building completely? Then you are getting to the point of "fuck do I even have the motivation to even fix this?"

        I think everyone is different though and are on different pages on what is acceptable conduct for this servers pvp.

        I think it should have been made a bit more clear as to what is acceptable when the server started. Some simple web page that is linked to in DP's initial posts every night so we don't have to keep answering the same questions each night on what's acceptable.

        No fault of anyone really on the server rules. Just a live and learn situation.

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          December 1, 2010 6:19 PM

          This might be a thing I have because it's my net-name, but you meant "RAZING the building."
          "Raising" a building is setting it up, not tearing it down.

          Also, that's a bummer about the logic room. That seems like griefing, even on a PvP server. :(

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        December 1, 2010 7:53 AM

        oh wow

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        December 1, 2010 8:00 AM

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        • foo legacy 10 years
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          December 1, 2010 8:14 AM

          haha that shit was hilarious, sorry you got caught up in it :(

          While showing EricZBA the traps..
          (foo) alright I'm going back to spawn to hunt dudes
          (EricZBA) I just heard something outside..
          (foo) /home
          (EricZBA) *literally screams* OH SHIT
          (foo) *world renders just in time to see shower of EricZBA's inventory*

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          December 1, 2010 8:29 AM

          Justice Keagan comments "THAT WAS TOTALLY BALLS TO THE FUCKIN WALLS AWESOME!"

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          December 1, 2010 8:30 AM

          Ramasule, leader of Panora nation had this to say about the event: "I am deeply sorry about the loss of one of your country men. In reality Foo member of North Korea was using him as a human shield. Please do not take out your hostilities on Panora and focus on the real problem North Korea... I am not a crook"

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          December 1, 2010 4:32 PM

          We're a peaceful nation but this still gets our goats! *rattles sabre*

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        December 1, 2010 8:15 AM

        looks like Skullville's mayor's office was burned down too along with the trees right next to it. I left protection on while I was off the server hoping it would work, guess not though.

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          December 1, 2010 8:21 AM

          No man, you left it off when we were building the road from the prison and you suddenly went offline. I stayed on for about a hour hoping you would hop back on but you didn't. I don't know if you managed to get back on though and reset it.

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            December 1, 2010 8:29 AM

            No I got back on last night and put it on after you left. Everything was fine then.

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        December 1, 2010 8:33 AM

        Oh. That sucks. Was a really nice vault, with a super tough password 1234. I told them to have fun trying to get in, I hope they did have fun!

        Well I was pretty done with PVP for now anyways.

        You tried hard, foo, but can't make everyone happy.

        We had some basic problems from early on. Panisia started with a lot of people, so we went big with our defenses, expecting that there would be people helping. It didn't quite work out that way, some people didn't log on for a few days, others left for different towns, others built their own things, others explored instead of building a lot (that's me).

        So we have this large, partly finished tower that we are working on, then foo leaves us. Now Korea has advantages that we don't, their base can be made in a couple minutes by foo, while we have to spend hours building ours up, and it still ends up being infiltrated very easily.

        I'm ready for some PVE cooperation.

        • foo legacy 10 years
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          December 1, 2010 8:38 AM

          I only left because I knew Panisia was a powerhouse, and I figured they'd want something to beat up on - and since I could spawn a building anywhere, quickly, I figured North Korea would be the ideal place for Panisia to beat up on..

          Just didn't work out the way I'd hoped, sigh

          I think I'll just focus on making those funhouses with traps and shit

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        December 1, 2010 9:31 AM

        And this is why I stopped playing.

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        December 1, 2010 9:54 AM

        What happened sounds (to me) like what should happen.

        I mean really, if it's just players attacking players, there is literally no point to it. The only reward you get is the satisfaction of winning (not much, since the combat sucks), or the loot (not much, since most people are smart enough not to engage in PvP, given the rules we have, while carrying important items).

        It just seems pointless to me for our PvP to be literally just players fighting other players until and unless there's big changes to combat and a real reward for engaging in it.

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          December 1, 2010 10:04 AM

          Well there might have been some bugs involved, so that's not cool. Apparently our town protection was off, when it was set to on by us. So they were able to build and/or destroy (not sure exactly how much they could do).

          Everything is still a work in progress, once Towny is complete there will be a reason to fight, it will let you claim other towns land.

          Also, like I said above, it's a complicated situation. Even if our protection hadn't messed up we hadn't completed construction on our base, it had too many holes to enter by.

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            December 1, 2010 11:38 AM

            The protection is weird. Something changed as of last night, since you can now open doors in protected towns.

            It still gives the message that you can't, but you certainly can. Also, you can definitely build in protected towns. Again, it gives the message that you can't, but it builds anyway.

            Your new defenses seem pretty good though. A single block in the way of every door makes entry pretty much impossible as best I can tell. And I did a test last night with TNT, it won't work at all in protected towns. You can lay it, but not detonate it.

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        December 1, 2010 9:58 AM

        You guys make me laugh every time these PvP threads come up. You guys and your rules...hahahahahaha

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        December 1, 2010 10:35 AM

        i think this idea will work best when these types of features mature more and/or make it into the actual game officially. right now its just too rough around the edges it seems

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      December 1, 2010 7:34 AM

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      December 1, 2010 8:48 AM

      that link to the past recreation on mercs server is awesome. bravo noclue!

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      December 1, 2010 9:01 AM

      Well this shit is messed up, people and mobs are duplicating and creating mirror images of themselves. I see about 15 foos right now.

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        December 1, 2010 9:02 AM

        [deleted]

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        December 1, 2010 9:16 AM

        this is really unplayable, monsters bump into eachother and then duplicate. Then they bump into the dupes and duplicate again. Thousands of static monster images lag the game down to 2 FPS.

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      December 1, 2010 9:03 AM

      lol gg notch

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      December 1, 2010 9:07 AM

      Is he still adding in game modes? Like stronghold or ctf? Anyone heard anything more on this?

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        December 1, 2010 9:12 AM

        That is still his plan I believe, though I think he'd get lynched if he said he was working on those things right now.

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          December 1, 2010 9:13 AM

          not really. he could just say "i'm working on them".instead of what he usually does, which is saying "they will be out next week" (and then the subsequent release is completely broken) =)

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        December 1, 2010 10:43 AM

        I think he's postponed things like that until "Beta" which will come once he's brought SMP up to SP's state and fixed all major bugs. (This is what I've concluded based on his posts, I don't have a literal quote to reference.)

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      December 1, 2010 9:12 AM

      Lol @ notch's office. Looks like a lan party.

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      December 1, 2010 9:25 AM

      Some people are fucking morons.

      This was yesterday, when most people were waiting for Hey0 to get updated, because they feel it's required.

      http://twitter.com/warlordv1/status/9804385441808384
      @notch instead of being an ass why don't you downgrade the server so we can play on smp you jeesh we're not your fing beta testers

      http://twitter.com/notch/status/9875253249445888
      @warlordv1 actually, you're alpha testers..

      Heh, good response.

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        December 1, 2010 9:30 AM

        so glad he has a sense of humor about this stuff

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        December 1, 2010 9:44 AM

        diamond internet armor.

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        December 1, 2010 9:45 AM

        three cheers for Internet entitlement

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        December 1, 2010 9:47 AM

        maximum facepalm

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        December 1, 2010 10:02 AM

        AAAAAAAAAAAAALPHA STRIKE!!!!

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        December 1, 2010 10:41 AM

        I like big butts and I can not lie
        You other brothers can't deny

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        December 1, 2010 10:51 AM

        Some people need others to /facepalm them.

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        December 1, 2010 11:09 AM

        LOL @ notch.

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        December 1, 2010 11:19 AM

        that's hilarious. sperged out dude royally owned

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        December 1, 2010 11:44 AM

        I don't understand why notch gets a free pass for releasing software the way he does. Yes, it's alpha, bugs are to be expected, but a lot of this stuff is just the result of sloppy practices and little to no internal testing, automated or otherwise.

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          December 1, 2010 12:18 PM

          He gets a free pass because it's in alpha, until he's done adding features and moves to beta bugs should be expected to be introduced with every single build.

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            December 1, 2010 12:27 PM

            I wonder if he will be establishing some kind of Beta Testers group once he hits beta. Once he moves to Beta it will become more and more difficult to use the general public as his testers. I know Beta testers are still working on unfinished code... but you would think at that stage there is SOME kind of screening before it hits even the beta testers.

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              December 1, 2010 2:25 PM

              He can pretty much do this just by making incremental updates optional. Everyone gets notice of a new update, but you can decide whether or not to become a "tester" by downloading the new build.

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                December 1, 2010 2:26 PM

                He's already done this, although some updates he is not making optional, like the one the dude was complaining about

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          December 1, 2010 12:24 PM

          Because there is a free version, and if you wanted more than that, you knew that you were buying into an incomplete, one man project. Free will.

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          December 1, 2010 4:19 PM

          I guess you didn't see the big flashed text on the homepage that says 50% off during alpha.

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            December 1, 2010 4:45 PM

            I think you're missing my point. I understand there will be lots of bugs. It's the *type* of bugs that I have a problem with. What we're getting is far closer to a nightly snapshot in terms of quality than an actual alpha. Any release meant for public consumption, alpha or otherwise, should have a bare minimum of testing/quality control that just isn't there. I just believe notch is abusing his player's good will and it won't last forever.

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      December 1, 2010 10:50 AM

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      • foo legacy 10 years
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        December 1, 2010 10:50 AM

        He's got houseguests

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        December 1, 2010 12:07 PM

        I'm fine, I'm just a) working my ass off and b) as foo says, guests staying at my place. When I get back in a week or so I have some Big Plans (TM) that I'll probably let you in on though, Eric.

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      December 1, 2010 10:59 AM

      connection refused by foo1 at the moment

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      December 1, 2010 11:18 AM

      Last night I died but didn't die. Now I can't take damage or pick anything up. What do I do?

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        December 1, 2010 11:20 AM

        Let me guess, you were wearing armor?

        Take off your armor, put everything into a chest, relog, then you'll die. Get your stuff from chest, carry on.

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        December 1, 2010 11:24 AM

        supposedly is a bug with dying while wearing armor.
        take your armor off, put in a chest, and logout and back in has been claimed to fix the issue

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        December 1, 2010 12:47 PM

        that's painterly for you :D

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        December 1, 2010 6:42 PM

        I love that "derp creeper" skin. You used the custom Painterly pack, didn't'cha?

    • foo legacy 10 years
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      December 1, 2010 12:34 PM

      foo1 is up again, using a very beta version of hey0.

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      December 1, 2010 12:53 PM

      ATTN: People with coal:

      I am building a skyscraper city called Edo. It requires immense quantities of cooked stone and sand. The stone and sand is easy to come by, but I can't find enough coal to keep up (need 192-256 coal per tower.

      Does anyone have extra coal they want to donate or trade?

      Here is what you'll be contributing to:

      http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4384/edox0.jpg

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        December 1, 2010 12:55 PM

        I will try to pick up all I can. Have you tried using lava buckets for smelting? Also, I need mossy cobble again if anyone's not using it.

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        December 1, 2010 12:55 PM

        Oh fuck that looks amazing.

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        December 1, 2010 12:59 PM

        You can use wood for furnaces too I believe, but I'm sure it's less efficient than coal.

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        December 1, 2010 12:59 PM

        Use lava. Or just dupe the coal.

        just kidding

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        December 1, 2010 1:00 PM

        Use wood, it's a renewable resource. Build a nice tree farm. It'll be faster than trying to find coal, and coal is needed for torches.

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          December 1, 2010 1:08 PM

          I might be able to do wood now that leaves apparently disappear again. Before that it was just as time consuming to build a tree farm, but at least with searching for coal I also acquired cobblestone, which the buildings need.

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        December 1, 2010 1:00 PM

        Wow... those are frigging huge. Each one of those towers is probably more smooth stone than I've made in my time playing the game.

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        December 1, 2010 1:16 PM

        I can donate coal... found a bunch of while hollowing out the penis

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        December 1, 2010 1:16 PM

        USE WOOD. wood is renewable and easy to farm

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          December 1, 2010 1:18 PM

          you do need a lot though. it's 43 wood to cook a stack of 64 i believe. this is about two trees worth of wood

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            December 1, 2010 1:24 PM

            wood = 1.5 smelts, so yeah, that's about right

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            December 1, 2010 1:50 PM

            This is my main reservation with using wood. With coal it is a very efficient, assembly-line style process. I load 8 stacks of cobblestone in one row of my inventory, and 8 stacks of cobblestone in the next.

            Then across the top row I can quickly halve two stacks of coal repeatedly into 8 stacks of 16.

            Then I can open a furnace, right click a stack of coal and put it in, then left click a stack of cobblestone, and put it in. I repeat this rapidly (switching to left clicking on stacks of coal once they're all 8-unit stacks) and have all the furnaces loaded in no time.

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            December 1, 2010 2:38 PM

            Logs should really be altered to burn longer than wood, 4x or 5x longer, so that breaking down a log and burning the wood is either equal or less smelts.

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        December 1, 2010 1:23 PM

        USE A BUCKET OF LAVA. You can get almost 4 towers out of a single bucket.

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      December 1, 2010 1:05 PM

      fuck, i was exploring new brickton and i accidentally a creeper into the welcome center.

      sorry about that :(

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      December 1, 2010 1:54 PM

      Shadowdanezors...

      Can we just reset already =(

      Logged in today to actually take shots and a vid of my place before the deletion, found someone had put a load of lava in the deep road path section and blocked off that route to my place. To top it off, some tosser has run around smashing half of my lava lights glass screens... flooding the whole damn underground sections with lava and ruining the ziggurat =(

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        December 1, 2010 2:21 PM

        Trying to get the TerrainBiomeMod setup properly... the last update completely fucked caves so they pretty much don't spawn. I'll have to check it out tonight as it looks like he released another update.

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          December 1, 2010 2:30 PM

          Okayz =(

          What settings/rules are going to be running?

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            December 1, 2010 2:34 PM

            Same as before basically... PvE server, No Griefing. Of course we might end up with damage inflicted by Creepers.

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        December 1, 2010 2:22 PM

        i say wait till the weekend when shit should be a bit more stable

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          December 1, 2010 2:31 PM

          Yah I might have to wait for the BiomeTerrainMod to be fixed anyway... currently caves arent generated with it at all really. lol

          The guy tried to introduce some custom cave generation code and it is fubar!

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      December 1, 2010 3:00 PM

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      December 1, 2010 3:20 PM

      How do I disband a town? And anyone looking for some residents?

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        December 1, 2010 3:22 PM

        I believe The Wilhelm Scream was looking for some the other day

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      December 1, 2010 3:26 PM

      Foo1 Menz I'm starting to get back into minecraft now that it's a bit more stable and PVP/Towns sounds fun. I tried joining earlier but I was totally lost.

      So what do I need to do to get started?

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        December 1, 2010 3:38 PM

        when you find out let me know. I was asking and nobody would help. Everything has protection, I have no idea what's going on.

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      December 1, 2010 3:55 PM

      used to be on the shackeast.sytes.net server but its gone now so i dont know what to so if its a different name or what

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      December 1, 2010 4:47 PM

      combat with mobs is fucked up again, like zombies and shit, all lagged and they hit you tons before you can do anything

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