Morning Discussion
Fun fact of the day: Wednesday was actually invented in 1873 by sly entrepreneur Egbert Hieronymus V. Echrang, though most wrongly believe it was actually 'the druids.'
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Community managers do not make games!
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that seems like such a bullshit reason to justify that sort of job to me
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the second part sure, it's just marketing, but "making developers aware of community requests" seems stupid to me.
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I meant it was more marketing than development.
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Well, sort of. They do a lot of their work post-release, but the stuff they gather post-release is also information that can be used for future titles, so you could call it an early stage research for coming projects.
But it is also marketing, so it's a bit of a blend.
A good community manager can do quite a lot of good stuff for a game.
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they work with the goddamn customers so the developers don't have to.
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like many titles in the gaming industry, what people do varies wildly, so anyone making an assumption about any title and the work that person does (producer is another excellent random title to talk about) is really difficult. also it matters hugely whether you work with the developer or with the publisher and your proximity to each of them.
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This is a dumb subthread. Everyone who works at a developer or publisher is important and even if they don't make the content of the game directly they are responsible for its success and failure. That includes IT guys who manage the computers that the devs use, marketing people who promote the game, people who manage the salaries of developers, people who deal with distribution, selling the game to retailers, producers who keep everything on track, QA and testers who make sure the game works and makes sense and so on and so on. There's a fuckton of people needed to make a game and make it successful and it's a lot of work. Just because you don't write or create assets doesn't mean you're not helping the game.
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This is more true than most people realize
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You kill the joe, you make some mo!
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hes going to Bethesda as the community manager starting next thursday
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Awesome. Good for him.
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So if we don't get a Fallout MMO we know who to find and kill.
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awesome
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He'd been waiting for this. This day of Breckoning.
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lol
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Oh come on, this is nowhere near as bad as some of yours.
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you're coming to Boston for PAX 2010 right?
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what would he do in Boston?
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Manage a community
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You obviously don't know gmd.
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you pighead
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PAX 2010
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shackcontent--
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Shacknews: It gets you opportunities.
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I need me some opportunities.
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It makes me sad that I'm going to have to listen to the Bombcast in the future :(
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gamers with jobs is pretty good. I listen to bombcast, too, but they talk way too much about buying this and buying that all the time and laugh even more at their own not so funny jokes than idlethumbs ever did.
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Here is where you suggest what video-game related podcast Loiosh should pick in the future!
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Bombcast
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>:(
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lol
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Talkradar
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One Life Left.
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I'll take a listen to all of them.
I listen to podcasts during lunch and Idle Thumbs is my favorite out of all of them. It is the single one I enjoy most so it will be hard to fill its void. I appreciate the suggestions.
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What you should be listening to is Penny Arcade's D&D Podcast
http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Archive.aspx?category=resources&subcategory=podcasts-
Already finished that :) Aeofell NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! (Major last-episode spoiler there).
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Is he leaving Idle Thumbs?? (I'm still a few episodes behind)
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Yes, Idle Thumbs is done after episode 50
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nope, he's trading in Tupac for Biggie
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yeah, that really sucked. especially at 11 years old :(
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How do you think I feel? I have like 10 useless domains now :(
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haha, which ones are yours?
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wonderboner.info
eightbitcock.com
seniorsuperdouche.com
listofdomainnamespointingtoidlethumbsdotnet.info
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Point them all at ThomW's profile page.
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Starting my own podcast brb
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more like seniorsuperdouche
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have you two ever met in real life? Because I can visualize what ThomW sitting next to Degenerate would look like.
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What the fuck, Nick?! You're ruining this family! First our dreams of the glorious Remolution were shattered, and now any hope we held to experience the Breckoning are gone with the wind.
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Yeah, Jake and Remo should really continue it with an occasional 3rd mic guest.
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They should pull in dahanese and/or warcrow and just merge Idle Thumbs and Played.
The thing that makes Idle Thumbs work so well is that the three guys are in the room at the same time as opposed to a phone call over Skype. So they need someone else from the area.
Granted I've lost track of where everyone is and so it may be a nontrivial task to get everyone together. It's kind of like when people not from Texas figure that people from Dallas and people from El Paso must be next door neighbors.-
^^ Excellent idea. Remo, Rodkin, and warcrow (can't remember his last name) would make a great podcast!!!! (or dahanese like you said)
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Too true, plus the "out of the game" podcast has a decidedly off putting air, maybe its the skypiness of the whole thing maybe its certain members not really acting like they want to be there let alone join in the conversation.
The gamers with jobs guys make a great show with their skype based podcasts however.
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this is exactly what they should do.
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I think Steve "Hot Scoops" Gaynor is the only person that could replace Nick in that podcast. Why can't the European branch continue the podcast?
Idle Thumbs will probably return again in another form eventually, it didn't even start off as a podcast.
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Also, this doesn't make any sense. Chris has been on several other podcast lately where he was getting high praise about the quality of the cast. They made it into the top 10 or 20 list on iTunes, they just started the site's blog up again. None of this sounds like people who are about to quit.
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fuck everything
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That really sucks :(
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SIGH
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*sigh*
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I submit my name as a candidate for Nick's replacement.
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dun dun dun
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going bye-bye
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So who's dick do I have to suck to get his job?
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i fucking knew it!!!!
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If you put mace and Alice O'Connor into a room and locked the door, they'd form some kind of assfucking Ouroboros, the force of which would soon create a gravitational singularity that would rend our planet asunder at an atomic level.
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So what does it take to be a community manager? It seems like a difficult thing to gain credentials for.
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I have a feeling I could do it, since I mod a few websites myself.
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I was 2nd pick for a Community Manager job where my only experience was that I had volunteer-moderated their forums for two years or so and apparently done a good job of it. Stuff like that can get you considered for it. Their first pick took the job though so I didn't get it, but I got a much better position about a year later instead. :D
Otherwise working in some sort of customer support, game-related or not. Or marketing and such.
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Shacknews: It's Get's You Better Jobs Elsewhere After About A Year It Seems
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lol nice
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better? Pah!
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Shacknews: Doesn't Pay Much It Seems
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Awesome! Good luck Nick!
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So is this the return of Ratsofatsrat?
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Actually I think he created a new account and quit using Ratsofatsorat. The profile still works anyways.
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Good. Go. I never liked you. J.. Just go!!! *hides tears*
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so tsundere
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You can never get away from Kanye.
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He got kicked out of journalism because he broke the Borderlands media embargo with his sigh
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