Morning Discussion

Putting down The Witcher is proving to be very difficult indeed. Whenever I see anything from a fantasy RPG my finger instinctively hovers over the shortcut to load it up, which naturally can be awkward when working video games. Here's hoping all news is about post-apocalyptic zombie shooters until I finish. I started Chapter 3 last night so I still have a long, long way to go until the workplace is again safe for me. Fine video games.

Fun fact of the day: Wednesday was actually invented in 1873 by sly entrepreneur Egbert Hieronymus V. Echrang, though most wrongly believe it was actually 'the druids.'

From The Chatty
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    October 21, 2009 6:04 AM

    Nick is abandoning us! :(

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      October 21, 2009 6:06 AM

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        October 21, 2009 6:23 AM

        Community managers do not make games!

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          October 21, 2009 6:51 AM

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            October 21, 2009 6:58 AM

            that seems like such a bullshit reason to justify that sort of job to me

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              October 21, 2009 7:01 AM

              how is that? they interact directly with the fan base. it's essentially public relations.

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                October 21, 2009 7:03 AM

                the second part sure, it's just marketing, but "making developers aware of community requests" seems stupid to me.

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                  October 21, 2009 7:09 AM

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                    October 21, 2009 7:16 AM

                    I meant it was more marketing than development.

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                      October 21, 2009 7:34 AM

                      Well, sort of. They do a lot of their work post-release, but the stuff they gather post-release is also information that can be used for future titles, so you could call it an early stage research for coming projects.

                      But it is also marketing, so it's a bit of a blend.

                      A good community manager can do quite a lot of good stuff for a game.

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                October 21, 2009 8:48 AM

                they work with the goddamn customers so the developers don't have to.

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              October 21, 2009 7:07 AM

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                October 21, 2009 10:13 AM

                like many titles in the gaming industry, what people do varies wildly, so anyone making an assumption about any title and the work that person does (producer is another excellent random title to talk about) is really difficult. also it matters hugely whether you work with the developer or with the publisher and your proximity to each of them.

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          October 21, 2009 10:32 AM

          This is a dumb subthread. Everyone who works at a developer or publisher is important and even if they don't make the content of the game directly they are responsible for its success and failure. That includes IT guys who manage the computers that the devs use, marketing people who promote the game, people who manage the salaries of developers, people who deal with distribution, selling the game to retailers, producers who keep everything on track, QA and testers who make sure the game works and makes sense and so on and so on. There's a fuckton of people needed to make a game and make it successful and it's a lot of work. Just because you don't write or create assets doesn't mean you're not helping the game.

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            October 21, 2009 10:44 AM

            Don't forget the dude who makes sure there is always a hot cup of java in the pot.

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              October 21, 2009 10:45 AM

              he is the most important of all. seriously if you work in games and can not fuck up making a pot of coffee you will be everyone's fucking hero.

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                October 21, 2009 11:46 AM

                This is more true than most people realize

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                  October 21, 2009 11:58 AM

                  yeah, it's a totally true post. I'm not even trying to make a joke!

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              October 21, 2009 11:58 AM

              You kill the joe, you make some mo!

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        October 21, 2009 6:56 AM

        Don't fool yourself, he's not MAKING videogames.

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      October 21, 2009 6:07 AM

      I know, sounds like a good thing he's going to though.

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      October 21, 2009 6:08 AM

      wait, what?

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      October 21, 2009 6:08 AM

      shackcontent--

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      October 21, 2009 6:08 AM

      Shacknews: It gets you opportunities.

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      October 21, 2009 6:14 AM

      It makes me sad that I'm going to have to listen to the Bombcast in the future :(

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        October 21, 2009 6:17 AM

        gamers with jobs is pretty good. I listen to bombcast, too, but they talk way too much about buying this and buying that all the time and laugh even more at their own not so funny jokes than idlethumbs ever did.

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          October 21, 2009 6:22 AM

          Here is where you suggest what video-game related podcast Loiosh should pick in the future!

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            October 21, 2009 6:23 AM

            Bombcast

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            October 21, 2009 6:25 AM

            I got hooked on Gamerdork (gamerdork.net) after Remo did that guest spot.

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            October 21, 2009 6:27 AM

            Talkradar

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            October 21, 2009 6:30 AM

            I don't think any of them will have enough Wizard to satisfy me :(

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            October 21, 2009 6:31 AM

            One Life Left.

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              October 21, 2009 6:39 AM

              Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I'll take a listen to all of them.

              I listen to podcasts during lunch and Idle Thumbs is my favorite out of all of them. It is the single one I enjoy most so it will be hard to fill its void. I appreciate the suggestions.

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            October 21, 2009 6:47 AM

            What you should be listening to is Penny Arcade's D&D Podcast

            http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Archive.aspx?category=resources&subcategory=podcasts

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              October 21, 2009 6:49 AM

              Already finished that :) Aeofell NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! (Major last-episode spoiler there).

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                October 21, 2009 7:38 AM

                What's best is that they got it wrong. Part of me, the small part that's not laughing more or less constantly, cringes at how poorly they play the game, how often they forget things, how many rules they break/ignore/forget, etc. =D

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            October 21, 2009 6:59 AM

            Player One Podcast.

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            October 21, 2009 7:16 AM

            The demise of Idle Thumbs is unfortunate; most video game podcasts are fucking awful.

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        October 21, 2009 6:21 AM

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        October 21, 2009 6:31 AM

        Is he leaving Idle Thumbs?? (I'm still a few episodes behind)

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          October 21, 2009 6:32 AM

          Yes, Idle Thumbs is done after episode 50

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            October 21, 2009 6:32 AM

            That sucks.

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              October 21, 2009 6:55 AM

              That is too bad, by far my favorite vidyagame podcast, how sad.

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            October 21, 2009 6:57 AM

            nooooo, wizaaaard!

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            October 21, 2009 6:57 AM

            WHAT?!

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            October 21, 2009 7:20 AM

            Oh goddammit, it was the highlight of my week

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              October 21, 2009 7:22 AM

              Same here.

              Honestly, I'm much more bummed by this news than I thought I would be. You never know what you have until it's gone.

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                October 21, 2009 7:23 AM

                How do you think I feel? I have like 10 useless domains now :(

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                  October 21, 2009 7:24 AM

                  haha, which ones are yours?

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                    October 21, 2009 7:31 AM

                    wonderboner.info
                    eightbitcock.com
                    seniorsuperdouche.com
                    listofdomainnamespointingtoidlethumbsdotnet.info

                    I have a few more I think, just can't remember all of the names.

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                      October 21, 2009 7:46 AM

                      Point them all at the lol page.

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                      October 21, 2009 7:49 AM

                      Point them all at ThomW's profile page.

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                        October 21, 2009 7:52 AM

                        Starting my own podcast brb

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                        October 21, 2009 7:54 AM

                        Just wonderboner.

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                          October 21, 2009 7:59 AM

                          more like seniorsuperdouche

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                            October 21, 2009 8:04 AM

                            More like blowmedegenerate

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                              October 21, 2009 8:51 AM

                              have you two ever met in real life? Because I can visualize what ThomW sitting next to Degenerate would look like.

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            October 21, 2009 7:23 AM

            Dengit, time to find another podcast.

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            October 21, 2009 7:24 AM

            What the fuck, Nick?! You're ruining this family! First our dreams of the glorious Remolution were shattered, and now any hope we held to experience the Breckoning are gone with the wind.

            good luck Nick

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              October 21, 2009 7:28 AM

              I thought Remolution was cute, but I should not have laughed so hard at Breckoning. :<

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            October 21, 2009 7:39 AM

            I think this is more fucking tragic then Nick leaving shacknews.

            Motherfucker am I pissed now.

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              October 21, 2009 7:42 AM

              Yeah, Jake and Remo should really continue it with an occasional 3rd mic guest.

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                October 21, 2009 7:47 AM

                They should pull in dahanese and/or warcrow and just merge Idle Thumbs and Played.

                The thing that makes Idle Thumbs work so well is that the three guys are in the room at the same time as opposed to a phone call over Skype. So they need someone else from the area.

                Granted I've lost track of where everyone is and so it may be a nontrivial task to get everyone together. It's kind of like when people not from Texas figure that people from Dallas and people from El Paso must be next door neighbors.

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                  October 21, 2009 8:30 AM

                  ^^ Excellent idea. Remo, Rodkin, and warcrow (can't remember his last name) would make a great podcast!!!! (or dahanese like you said)

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                October 21, 2009 8:02 AM

                Just Skype Nick in, if he has the time.

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                  October 21, 2009 8:10 AM

                  I don't think the podcast would work as well if they weren't all in the same room

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                  October 21, 2009 8:22 AM

                  They don't seem to like Skype-based podcasting and I don't blame them. That new podcast with Jeff Green and Shawn Elliott is hard to listen to because the Skpying means they are talking over each other all the time.

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                    October 21, 2009 11:21 AM

                    idle thumbs do that anyway :P

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                    October 21, 2009 1:08 PM

                    Too true, plus the "out of the game" podcast has a decidedly off putting air, maybe its the skypiness of the whole thing maybe its certain members not really acting like they want to be there let alone join in the conversation.

                    The gamers with jobs guys make a great show with their skype based podcasts however.

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                October 21, 2009 8:07 AM

                this is exactly what they should do.

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                October 21, 2009 9:15 AM

                HOT SCOOPS

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                  October 21, 2009 9:53 AM

                  I think Steve "Hot Scoops" Gaynor is the only person that could replace Nick in that podcast. Why can't the European branch continue the podcast?

                  Idle Thumbs will probably return again in another form eventually, it didn't even start off as a podcast.

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              October 21, 2009 7:56 AM

              It's such a shame. :(

              Really. They should be ashamed.

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            October 21, 2009 8:17 AM

            So sad.

            BRING BACK SHACKNEWS SHACKCAST!!!!

            WE TALK ABOUT VIDEOOOOOO GAMESSSSS

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            October 21, 2009 8:41 AM

            zomg no!

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            October 21, 2009 8:58 AM

            Oh man seriously?! My heart is being torn out. Losing the Breckonator is one thing, losing Idle Thumbs too is just awful :(.

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            October 21, 2009 9:00 AM

            what, no :( by far the best gaming podcast out there :(

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            October 21, 2009 9:35 AM

            This is the worst news I have heard this year.

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            October 21, 2009 10:32 AM

            This has completely ruined my day, Wednesdays are going to be so boring now that I can't look forward to some Thumbs. Why can't they get Hot Scoops on? He's usually more animated and funny than Nick anyway.

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              October 21, 2009 10:34 AM

              Also, this doesn't make any sense. Chris has been on several other podcast lately where he was getting high praise about the quality of the cast. They made it into the top 10 or 20 list on iTunes, they just started the site's blog up again. None of this sounds like people who are about to quit.

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                October 21, 2009 11:19 AM

                He probably made those statements before knowing about Nick

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                  October 21, 2009 11:39 AM

                  That's probably true. That being said however, I just find it weird that they could be going full steam like this and just quit because one guy's leaving. No offense to Nick but he wasn't even the most talkative guy on the show by a long shot. Although he had gotten better recently.

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            October 21, 2009 11:24 AM

            fuck everything

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            October 21, 2009 11:32 AM

            That really sucks :(

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        October 21, 2009 6:33 AM

        Don't worry, Garnet Lee will replace him on the podcast.

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      October 21, 2009 6:15 AM

      Nick who?

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      October 21, 2009 6:19 AM

      I for one will miss whatever the hell he did here!

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      October 21, 2009 6:23 AM

      *sigh*

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        October 21, 2009 6:37 AM

        I submit my name as a candidate for Nick's replacement.

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      October 21, 2009 6:47 AM

      I think Nick is resigning from Shacknews over Sighgate!!!

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      October 21, 2009 6:57 AM

      this wont interfere with Idle Thumbs will it?

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      October 21, 2009 7:10 AM

      So who's dick do I have to suck to get his job?

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        October 21, 2009 7:11 AM

        //raises hand drops pants

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        October 21, 2009 7:12 AM

        Alice O'Connor's

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          October 21, 2009 7:21 AM

          0.o

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          October 21, 2009 8:08 AM

          i fucking knew it!!!!

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          October 21, 2009 9:12 AM

          If you put mace and Alice O'Connor into a room and locked the door, they'd form some kind of assfucking Ouroboros, the force of which would soon create a gravitational singularity that would rend our planet asunder at an atomic level.

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        October 21, 2009 7:13 AM

        mace's

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        October 21, 2009 8:23 AM

        Danny DeVito's

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        October 21, 2009 10:37 AM

        I'd totally take it too. Haha.

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        October 21, 2009 10:48 AM

        it's already filled by valcan_s

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      October 21, 2009 7:11 AM

      So what does it take to be a community manager? It seems like a difficult thing to gain credentials for.

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        October 21, 2009 7:17 AM

        Putting up with us is a good start.

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          October 21, 2009 7:21 AM

          I have a feeling I could do it, since I mod a few websites myself.

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        October 21, 2009 7:31 AM

        I was 2nd pick for a Community Manager job where my only experience was that I had volunteer-moderated their forums for two years or so and apparently done a good job of it. Stuff like that can get you considered for it. Their first pick took the job though so I didn't get it, but I got a much better position about a year later instead. :D

        Otherwise working in some sort of customer support, game-related or not. Or marketing and such.

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      October 21, 2009 7:16 AM

      Congrats, B Reckon.

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      October 21, 2009 7:18 AM

      Just don't let them know you eat pizza with a fork, Nick.

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      October 21, 2009 7:32 AM

      Shacknews: It's Get's You Better Jobs Elsewhere After About A Year It Seems

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      October 21, 2009 7:47 AM

      Would anyone (especially the IT team) be interested in a Farewell to Breckon dinner? I am thinking this Sunday in SF, at Pizza Orgasmica off of Clement?

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      October 21, 2009 7:56 AM

      Awesome! Good luck Nick!

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      October 21, 2009 8:02 AM

      Congrats Nick!!!

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      October 21, 2009 8:16 AM

      "Congratulations Nick!....

      FUCK NICK!"

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      October 21, 2009 8:25 AM

      I WILL WRITE SEXY REVIEWS FOR SHACKNEWS.COM!!!!!

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        October 21, 2009 8:55 AM

        More like butipoopfromthere.com

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        October 21, 2009 9:02 AM

        instead of sighing at games you don't like so much, you'll fuck them in the ass!

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        October 21, 2009 9:33 AM

        It'd be like shacknews's very own Filthy Critic. Only more fun and less scatological humor.

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        October 21, 2009 10:39 AM

        After having a good workout on the game, It only took me 5 minutes to get deep into her BORDERLANDS!!

        Her vagina, like the awesome game, didn't remain UNCHARTED for long!!

        ASSASSIN'S CREED 2 - Two uses of the word ASS in the name! This is awesome. Buy it. Play it. Fuck it!!

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      October 21, 2009 8:26 AM

      Congratulations Nick! FUCK NICK!

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      October 21, 2009 8:40 AM

      So is this the return of Ratsofatsrat?

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        October 21, 2009 9:10 AM

        I had forgotten they were the same person. Name changes never work.

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          October 21, 2009 10:16 AM

          Actually I think he created a new account and quit using Ratsofatsorat. The profile still works anyways.

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      October 21, 2009 9:16 AM

      Good. Go. I never liked you. J.. Just go!!! *hides tears*

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      October 21, 2009 10:24 AM

      Breckon to Bethesda? No wonder he didn't like Borderlands *sigh*. Good luck sir!

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      October 21, 2009 10:30 AM

      Nick Breckon doesn't care about shack people...

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      October 21, 2009 11:55 AM

      He got kicked out of journalism because he broke the Borderlands media embargo with his sigh

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      October 21, 2009 6:30 PM

      I guess this is the end of PC related news. They could force someone to do it I guess.

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