MS: Not Counting Wii, X360 Dominates Worldwide

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Update: Microsoft has confirmed to Shacknews that it did not take the Wii into account when it claimed the Xbox 360 as worldwide console leader.

"Xbox 360 has the largest global install base of any current gen. high definition gaming console, Wii excluded," the company clarified when asked how Xbox 360 could lead worldwide with 19 million when the Wii has sold 24.45 million.

Original Post: In a carefully worded press release, Microsoft today announced that the Xbox 360 is the first console of this hardware generation to sell over 10 million units in the United States.

"History has shown us that the first company to reach 10 million in console sales wins the generation battle," boasted Microsoft senior VP Don Mattrick. "We are uniquely positioned to set a new benchmark for the industry."

Despite Nintendo's Wii selling over 24.45 million units worldwide, Microsoft stated that Xbox 360 leads worldwide with sales of over 19 million units, which it said were "more than any other current-generation console." That particular phrasing indicates that MS may not be counting Wii as part of the current hardware generation.

The company further claimed that the Xbox 360 has "two times more platinum-selling titles than the Wii, and a 16:2 lead over the PlayStation 3 in game titles topping one million in sales."

The news comes less than a day after Sony chimed in with PS3 worldwide sales figures, which completed our glimpse at each console's worldwide sales as of March 31, 2008:

  1. Wii - 24.45 million units
  2. Xbox 360 - 19 million units
  3. PlayStation 3 - 12.85 million units
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    May 14, 2008 1:33 PM

    Not hard to do when everyone has to buy replacement consoles...

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      May 14, 2008 1:34 PM

      QQ fanboi's across the nation cry out their ps3 battle cry! heres an idea, get both systems then you dont have to be such a hater. :D

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        May 14, 2008 1:47 PM

        Check his post history, I think he's had more 360s break than anyone I've known...he's no PS3 fanboy.

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          May 14, 2008 2:00 PM

          or hes just a ps3 fanboi rocking a viral campaign of hate and discontent!

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            May 14, 2008 2:17 PM

            Silent Wolf was like Mr. Xbox before the 360 came out.

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            May 14, 2008 3:39 PM

            Look how stupid you look. Maybe if you knew the shack a little more, you could post and not sound like an idiot.

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              May 14, 2008 3:49 PM

              wtb sarcasm detector

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              May 14, 2008 4:23 PM

              go easy on the front page posters :(

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                May 14, 2008 4:48 PM

                Why? He said something stupid and was called out on his stupidity.

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              May 14, 2008 10:27 PM

              While I love the shack, admittedly I don't have as much time to spend here as I used to, this post is just terrible. Does he really look stupid by not knowing a shackers post history? And you're talking to him... Look how stupid you look. Does he look stupid to himself?

              He had a very valid argument. Everybody is still hugely anti-microsoft and for no good reason. While a select few people have had *multiple* red ring issues with xboxes its by far an overused excuse to hate on Microsoft.

              I mean they also didn't say replacements, they said sells, I don't see how they could get away with counting replacement units (like not counting wiis ;-)).

              Not knowing Silent Wolfs post history does not in anyway make him look stupid, this wasn't a shacker post history quiz article....

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                May 14, 2008 11:20 PM

                Or maybe you don't attack people without basis.

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                  May 15, 2008 1:19 AM

                  are you talking about syn0r's original reply? While terribly worded I still think he has a point. The op is using his shack rep of having arguably the worst luck with 360's in the entire world to imply that this is somehow scewing the results of the sales data. This is in fact not true as replacements arent sales.... they're replacements and shouldn't be counted on this report (although wii's should be counted and they're not so who knows).

                  And because of this Silent Wolf comes across as anti microsoft, and I'm not saying this is unjust in his case because if anybody can trash talk the 360 he can. But without knowing his post history the obvious reply would be that he's ether a "fanboi" of some other console or has an unfair opinion about MS in general and will bad mouth it at every chance even if its obvious they are trying to just do better.

                  While syn0r's was obviously aimed more at a specific person, silent wolfs post was aimed at the entire 360 community. And I for one only know 1 of my friends IRL that has had to replace his 360, thats out of the 10+ people I know personally that have one.

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                    May 16, 2008 7:54 AM

                    Silent Wolf was the biggest 360 proponent on the shack at one point. Hardly a PS3 fanboi.

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        May 14, 2008 3:23 PM

        uh... are you retarded?

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        May 14, 2008 4:11 PM

        This guy is totally justified.

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      May 14, 2008 1:37 PM

      heh..

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      May 14, 2008 1:46 PM

      HAHAHA NO.

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      May 14, 2008 1:47 PM

      Well, honestly, while there shouldn't be a fuck up of this caliber ever again, the closer consoles get to becoming specialized computers (in terms of hardware and hardware configuration) the more common hardware failures will get.

      The days of NES, SNES, and Genesis stability are over.

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        May 14, 2008 1:55 PM

        very true :(

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        May 14, 2008 2:04 PM

        Yeah, but the 360 is the only console with this issue. You rarely hear about Wiis or PS3s dying.

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          May 14, 2008 2:24 PM

          The number of games to consoles sold would suggest that the 360 actaully gets played alot more. I have a crazy amount of hours on mine.

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            May 14, 2008 4:36 PM

            Except the fact that number of hours shouldn't matter that much, I leave my PC on....24/7 and it hasn't died since i got it 3 years ago.

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              May 14, 2008 9:23 PM

              Leaving your PC on all the time keeps it from thermally cycling a few times a day. It's actually good for it, arguably.

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              May 14, 2008 10:42 PM

              then you're lucky, I haven't had a pc run 3 years without something going bad. I haven't had a single higher end video card last that long without having to at least replace the fan. I think I've actually replaced 4 video card fans... then you have hdd's, cpu fans, mother board fans, power supplies, ram, and a lot more. Yeah I've owned a lot of computers and have serviced a ton more than that and its a very big rarity to have a computer run 24/7 for 3 years with 0 issues.

              When you have mechanical parts, especially fans and hdd's, hours do matter, A LOT.

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                May 14, 2008 11:33 PM

                Actually, I think you're extremely unlucky or you have some other issue going on. If you have kept your PC in the same spot for all of those years, you might want to check for other problems such as the pc lacking sufficient space to ventilate or power issues (via power supply or the actual electrical grid) as that's a very high failure rate and completely outside the norm. Hell, we don't see those kind of failure rates on the machines we send to desert combat environments, which is basically the worst place for computers in the world (110 degree heat, sand, wind, bullets).

                Additionally, hardware failure typically occurs in the first 30 days, as it's most often a result of a quality control issue (again, assuming no other adverse conditions that could lead to failure such as the above).

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                  May 15, 2008 1:04 AM

                  oh comeon. average hard drive lifespan is an arguable length but is generally said to be 3-5 years.....this is for regular consumer stuff you get into a server environment and that number is going to go down. This is just hdd's, you add in fans, ram, power supply's, cpu's, etc than you have a pretty freaking high chance that you're computer isn't going to last 3 years without something faiing.

                  And I'm going to have to scream bs on your sand/110 degree heat unless of course you are talking about specifically designed computers for these environments. And this is going to be the case if you're working a contract for a vital defensive government agency. Your normal computer would have issues pretty quickly if it was in a constant 110 degree heat with the additional deadly mix of wind and sand... please don't argue that one.

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                    May 15, 2008 12:48 PM

                    Of course we're using toughbooks, but they still use the same fans and hdd's that your everyday computer does. While their enclosure is more resilient to the environment they are in, the rate of failure of toughbooks in the field is higher than that of retail products in a home environment. All I'm saying is that hardware has fault tolerance and tested failure rates and what you are describing exceeds what is expected.

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        May 14, 2008 2:10 PM

        Unless you own a PS3, next.

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          May 14, 2008 2:17 PM

          I've seen more PS3s die than 360s amongst my friends (1 to 0). They're not immune.

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            May 14, 2008 2:18 PM

            Yeah, me too. I've had a few friends who've had PS3s die.

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              May 14, 2008 2:25 PM

              I know three people with PS3's. One of 'em was dead out of the box. It wouldn't even power up.

              33% FAILURE RATE!!!!

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                May 14, 2008 2:30 PM

                If I do statistics based on my 4 gaming buddy and me then the Wii has a 40% (2/5), the PS3 has 0% (0/1), and the 360 has a 0%, undefined, or ∞ (infinity) failure rate (0/0).

                Statistics rule! Meh.

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                  May 14, 2008 2:33 PM

                  I won't dispute the other consoles have issues, sure. But the post I responded too seemed to imply that simply because the 360 has a notorious failure rate across the board due to a known design defect despite what your personal experience through friends may be that the other consoles are also as failure prone and unreliable as a whole. This is not true.

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                    May 14, 2008 2:40 PM

                    I didn't mean to say that the PS3 and Wii fuck up all the time (nor did what I say imply that I thought that), just that the lifetime of a console now is far lower than the consoles of old.

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                      May 14, 2008 3:26 PM

                      I dunno about the SNES, but the NES was pretty fucking notorious for having issues.

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                        May 14, 2008 3:39 PM

                        I dunno about the console. The biggest issue I had was solved by blowing into the cart. ;)

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                          May 15, 2008 7:07 AM

                          Which is actually one of the things that fucks up that console.

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                    May 14, 2008 2:42 PM

                    Hehe I was just messing around man :P

                    I was trying to make a point that doing statistics based on a small sample set is not representative to the actual trend of the population. Mostly directed to derelict515, mittense and Frank_Mackey (I'm not sure who was sarcastic or not, I know some of you were).

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            May 14, 2008 2:26 PM

            We are not even beginning to have this stupid conversation. I cannot entertain this.

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              May 14, 2008 2:39 PM

              You...started it...

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                May 14, 2008 2:41 PM

                Trying to dispell yet another misnomer concerning this generation of consoles. I had no idea that by trying to interject that a PS3 whose lack of failure rates compared to the 360 should be touted, would garner such a GameFaq's type of response.

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                  May 14, 2008 2:42 PM

                  You should have expected it with the kind of reply you had. It seemed more fanboyish and definite than the responses.

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                    May 14, 2008 2:45 PM

                    You're right, the ", next" part was overboard.

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            May 14, 2008 2:33 PM

            lol

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            May 14, 2008 3:18 PM

            none are immune, but you are guarentee'd a dead xbox when you get one.

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              May 14, 2008 3:19 PM

              none of the 5 people I know with 360s have had one die (and all of them have had them a year+). This is highly exaggerated.

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                May 14, 2008 4:12 PM

                Really, how about talk to me, and my 4 other friends who it has happened to. Me twice.

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              May 14, 2008 10:12 PM

              So, even the new ones are guaranteed to die? You have amazing clairvoyant powers.

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          May 14, 2008 10:31 PM

          yeah owning a ps3 would be a pretty big fuck up, next.

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        May 14, 2008 3:15 PM

        Mittense, while I agree we're going to get away from them being like the NES, etc, (lack of moving parts, just the optical drives alone will prevent them from being as reliable when people pull them out of the garage 10 years down the line) do you really see computers die so often? Over the years, I've had the following (MINE, obviously I've seen others) computer hardware die:

        1 Agnes chip on my Amiga500 (plugged something in while on, oops!)
        1 170MB (HAHAHA) Western Digital HDD
        1 Optical Drive
        1 Orchid Voodoo1 card
        1 ASUS or Abit NForce2 motherboard

        This having owned several Amigas and PCs over the years (self-built) -- 386DX/40, 486/DX2-66, P133, P200-MMX, PII-400, Dual-CPU P3 (1GHZ), Athlon 1.2GHz, AMD64 machine (the one that originally had the above motherboard)

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        May 14, 2008 4:49 PM

        Microsoft always fixes their mistakes and always looks after the customer first so this won't happen again.

        </sarcasm>

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        May 14, 2008 10:36 PM

        NES was the worst console for me reliability wise. So much blowing (can there be to much blowing?) and then stuff wouldn't load half the time or you get carazy artifacts....

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      May 14, 2008 2:51 PM

      buuurrrnnnn

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      May 14, 2008 3:02 PM

      What number X360 are you on now?

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      May 14, 2008 3:25 PM

      I just want my soldier to make it through Grand Theft Auto IV. He can lay down and die after that and I'll replace him with an Elite.

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      May 14, 2008 4:12 PM

      Can we get ThomW to make a script that marks Red Rings next to Silent Wolf's names so we know how many 360s have died on him? :D

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      May 15, 2008 12:31 PM

      I believe Silent Wolf is indeed Phil Harrison and his alleged 12 broken 360s are consoles he throws against the walls in managerial fits of anger during meetings.

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