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Musk issues ultimatum to remaining Twitter staff to commit or leave with severance

Elon Musk sent out an email that all Twitter employees must respond to, committing to a 'hardcore' Twitter operation or resigning with severance.

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Twitter has been a spectacle since Elon Musk was forced into completing the $44 billion deal that put him in ownership of it. In the wake of that takeover, Musk has turned the company inside out, laying off thousands of employees, removing leadership, and even firing tech staff for perceived as critical of his new direction with the company. Now, it seems those still working at Twitter have a choice to make: Commit to “hardcore” work on Twitter or take severance and leave the company, and all employees must make their decisions this week.

Elon Musk reportedly sent out an email putting the above decision on the table for all Twitter employees, as reported by the Washington Post. The email was sent at around midnight on November 16, 2022, and linked to an online form in which all staff was asked to submit their choice.

“If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below,” Musk said in the email. “[Twitter] will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.

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Elon Musk's email ultimatum to staff comes as the company delays Twitter Blue verification amid chaos and controversy inside and out the company.
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This email comes amid chaotic times within the Twitter workforce. Elon Musk had already moved to lay off thousands of Twitter employees shortly after taking over the company. Additionally, the CISO, Chief Privacy Officer and Chief Compliance Officer also resigned in the wake of Elon Musk’s moves with the company. Even Twitter Head of Trust and Safety Yoel Roth quit the company after having been initially supportive and optimistic that Twitter would be in a better place after matters settled from the transition to Musk’s leadership.

It's also very possible that at this point, Elon Musk is trying to cover himself and remove liability on further firings after the last round of layoffs brought about a possible class-action lawsuit in California and could be followed by further legal action in other regions affected by Elon Musk’s firings. With his decision to cut remote work and force employees to return to offices, it’s likely that a large portion of further Twitter staff will simply be forced to leave the company.

With more tangles in the system such as the delay of Twitter Blue verification, the situation under Elon Musk’s Twitter continues to look like it will get more complicated before it shows any sign of smoothing out. Stay tuned as we continue to follow with further updates.

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      November 16, 2022 5:57 AM

      Elon Musk just sent an email to all staff outlining "Twitter 2.0", writing it will"need to be extremely hardcore". Long hours, high intensity.

      People need to click "yes" to confirm being part of this by 5pm ET tomorrow, else they get 3 months severance. More details:

      https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1592801188277538818


      Leadership!

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        November 16, 2022 6:00 AM

        Seems like he wants to get staff into the hundreds? Like 90% reduction?

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          November 16, 2022 6:05 AM

          He just reduced revenue by 90% so I guess he has to.

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          November 16, 2022 7:24 AM

          Probably thinks he can whittle it down to a core of very intense Musk-lovers. Surely there are a handful of those worshipful oddballs there.

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        November 16, 2022 6:10 AM

        Great point w/r/t wanting to drive a startup mentality, but for employees without startup-level equity stakes.

        I hope the good engineers drop Twitter like a bad habit rather than subjecting themselves to this. There are always good companies hiring for talented software engineers.

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          November 16, 2022 6:51 AM

          I’m sure the best left prior to the deal even going through.

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          November 16, 2022 8:03 AM

          He fired someone on the GraphQL steering board. The good ones are gone.

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        November 16, 2022 6:11 AM

        Musk is being paid hundreds of millions of dollars yearly to come up with these genius 420 IQ thoughts

        rich people really are better than you and me, and they deserve more speech and more political capital and more opportunity

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        November 16, 2022 6:18 AM

        It baffles me that it is legal to just make people work more than 40 hours a week in a Western country. "Work 12 hours daily or you're fired" is just straight illegal in most if not all of Europe, I think. You can work overtime if you want but it is regulated to assure you have sufficient time to rest. Fix your shit America.

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          November 16, 2022 6:30 AM

          old people who have never been fed to the corporate grinder believe in bootstraps Fox News lies and will continue to vote R and prevent change

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          November 16, 2022 6:35 AM

          The linked twitter thread mentions this might be a way to get rid of staff in the EU who actually have decent worker rights. Elon seems to think the entire world works at will

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            November 16, 2022 8:05 AM

            You can't force people to do something outside of their signed contract, especially in Europe, no idea how that works over in the U.S.A. If their working contract states 40hrs then they would need to sign a new contract or their positions made redundant which would see them get a payout.

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              November 16, 2022 12:25 PM

              no fulltime employment that is salary based in the US will have hour expectations.

              if you want hour expectations / restrictions, you go contractor so you get paid what you work.

              this is not agreement, just the fact

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          November 16, 2022 7:45 AM

          We can’t fix it until all boomers are dead.

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          November 16, 2022 12:54 PM

          Musk isn't even a worst offender unfortunately https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_resident_work_hours#:~:text=for%20first%2C%20second%2C%20and%20third,10%20hours%20off%20between%20shifts.

          First there is the fact that *limiting down* to 80 hours per week is needed, and then, anecdotally, these restrictions are not even enforced (aka not actually followed).

          I'll give you one guess as to why a for profit hospital would want so many hours of cheap labor under the guise of "doctors need to be the most elite trained hardest workers".

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          November 16, 2022 9:44 PM

          Honestly we should be well below the 40 hour week at this point, as workers are more productive than ever due to tech, but at some point progress in that direction just stopped. 4 day work weeks feel so much better and recent trials have shown that similar amounts of work get done.

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        November 16, 2022 6:28 AM

        Does not seem legal, or like it should be legal. Something about Musk and this whole ordeal really reminds me of turn of the century robber barons.

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        November 16, 2022 6:44 AM

        Read the room Elon. Fucking idiot.

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        November 16, 2022 6:53 AM

        Everyone should quit. Strike. Unionise.

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          November 16, 2022 7:01 AM

          A union at twitter would be fucking awesome right now

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            November 16, 2022 7:43 AM

            Could you imagine if every single Twitter employee joined a union?

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        November 16, 2022 7:03 AM

        Why does it need to be extremely hardcore? Why not just actually project manage with a real schedule with reasonable work hours.

        Amateur, toxic bullshit.

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          November 16, 2022 7:06 AM

          Maybe Elon made a bet with another billionaire that he could drive away every single employee by the end of November.

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        November 16, 2022 7:08 AM

        I truly don't wish unemployment on anyone at Twitter but I'd really like that man to face actual, consequential failure.

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        November 16, 2022 7:19 AM

        God I'd be so bitter if I worked there right now. I can't imagine how morale must be.

        Just seeing your CEO shit all over the work you've done, instate draconian work culture, and disparage all of your coworkers (after firing half of them).

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          November 16, 2022 7:22 AM

          The perfect time to just quietly coast while prepping to leave. "Sure, I'll be in the office for extra hours (working on refreshing my resume)."

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          November 16, 2022 7:23 AM

          The problem is you'll still have the people that will throw their lives at it because it IS Musk. Just like there are people that believe Trump is a genius and will follow him to any end, there are people that believe Musk is a genius and will do absolutely anything to be on his team.

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            November 16, 2022 7:25 AM

            I'm sure you do. And there are a lot of those folks.

            But how many of them worked at Twitter? And how many folks either aren't into that "hardcore" culture or just dislike what Musk is doing?

            It's a huge culture shift.

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              November 16, 2022 8:08 AM

              Excuse me, it’s going to be EXTREMELY hardcore.

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            November 16, 2022 7:45 AM

            I'm fine with those people staying and working their asses off for a boss that clearly doesn't value the work that they do. There's always going to be a few of those corporate-hero types who love to be ground into dust. But I hope everyone else there finds a better alternative role elsewhere & leaves for it immediately.

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            November 16, 2022 7:47 AM

            Also people might be really attached to their career's and what they built at Twitter. Not everyone who stays is doing it for Elon.

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            November 16, 2022 8:31 AM

            Not at Twitter. People can do that if they think they're working towards a better future in some way, but you can't sell that with Twitter the way you can at Tesla or SpaceX.

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        November 16, 2022 7:20 AM

        Why does it have to be so fast and brutal? It's a private company now, so there's no quarterly pressure.

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          November 16, 2022 7:24 AM

          Elon owes money to rich people and if you fuck up rich peoples money then you go to jail.

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            November 16, 2022 7:26 AM

            Yeah. This is all about paying off the huge debt he incurred buying the company.

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              November 16, 2022 7:28 AM

              It's obvious he had no plan prior to making the purchase. And it seems like - and I'm not a billionaire or business owner - but it seems like that taking his time to learn the company and understand its structure and issues (deeply), would probably pay off over time, and possibly even get to profitability faster than slash & burn.

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                November 16, 2022 12:40 PM

                I think his problem is that he immediately saddled the company with the debt he used to purchase it (another thing that should be illegal, but I digress) so it was going to be hemorrhaging money if it didn't find ways to cut costs and earn more fast. Instead of figure out how the company works and develop a plan with the people on board Musk did his usual bullshit. It's failing this time because, even though most of his other companies are tech companies, they are goods companies instead of service companies. They were also much less established. Musk has found the limits to his success and will probably crash and burn with Twitter here.

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            November 16, 2022 7:31 AM

            If only that was true. Donald Trump would be serving a life sentence and would never have been president.

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            November 16, 2022 8:06 AM

            He’s already fucked it up. They can’t even sell the debt because they think Elon will default.

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            November 16, 2022 8:09 AM

            It's too late for that already, this will not fix

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          November 16, 2022 8:29 AM

          He's like a kid who just got a new toy for Christmas. He wants to play with it.

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          November 16, 2022 7:45 PM

          He has to pay that $800 million a year interest or whatever it is

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        November 16, 2022 7:21 AM

        Take the severance. I don’t think it had 3 months left

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        November 16, 2022 7:23 AM

        I told you I was hardcore.

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        November 16, 2022 7:24 AM

        Please everyone quit, I've always wanted to witness a $44 BILLION dirty diaper fire.

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        November 16, 2022 7:25 AM

        Hopefully everyone clicks no.

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        November 16, 2022 7:26 AM

        There's no doubt that I'd take that severance with how things are going over there.

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        November 16, 2022 7:31 AM

        He's gonna run it into the ground and be screwed because he has to pay back all those loans. Idiot.

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        November 16, 2022 7:38 AM

        oh well if its extremely hardcore then it will definitely succeed

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        November 16, 2022 7:40 AM

        Unless there is promise of significant equity or huge bonuses for sticking through the whole thing it seems like such a no brainer to leave at this point.

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          November 16, 2022 7:44 AM

          Seems like the main reason for staying is the broader job market. But yeah, if an employee can find another company to move horizontally to, it's a no-brainer.

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            November 16, 2022 8:46 AM

            i'd rather work at mcdonalds than twitter at this point

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          November 16, 2022 8:53 AM

          Considering he took the company private (right?) and there is no stock equity to be had, that first one's off the table.

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            November 16, 2022 9:07 AM

            Just because it's private doesn't mean there isn't stock, it's just not publicly traded. I've been accumulating stock options for a few years and my employer is a private company.

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            November 16, 2022 10:11 AM

            He just mentioned the other day they’d be giving stock like SpaceX does

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              November 16, 2022 10:37 AM

              “Hey guys, we might go bankrupt. Have some stock!”

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                November 16, 2022 11:02 AM

                Right? I'd only stay on for a wheelbarrow of cash.

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                  November 16, 2022 11:03 AM

                  How about a wheelbarrow of stock! You can burn it to keep warm!

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                    November 16, 2022 11:37 AM

                    "It's NOT about the stock options. It's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building with! <kicks hole in wall, starts ripping hanks>"

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                  November 16, 2022 5:26 PM

                  Not even worth it, if he's requiring insane hours.

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                November 16, 2022 11:54 AM

                Years ago I had a Director who said something that really stuck with me:

                I trust that our executive leaders will do what they need to do to meet their bonus targets.

                No individual investor stands to lose more $$$ from the failure of Tesla than Elon. Therefore, Elon is highly motivated to make it succeed. Giving Elon a dollar and hoping he turns it into more has historically worked out really well for the person giving Elon the dollar.

                Past performance is no guarantee of future results, but I think there's a lot of not-Elon-fans wishfully thinking that he screws this up. You all are welcome to bet against the world's richest human, if you're lucky this might actually be the time that betting against him pays off.

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                November 16, 2022 2:33 PM

                I mean this is how non public companies work. You take a risk to join them with lower compensation in hopes of outsized returns when they go public or are acquired.

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                  November 16, 2022 4:30 PM

                  Usually those companies don't just up and tell you they're probably going to go bankrupt right before they ask you to work your ass off for stock. The point here is that this sales pitch is hilatiously terrible.

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          November 16, 2022 1:05 PM

          Some people are on visas and would have to leave the country if they can’t find another job quickly

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        November 16, 2022 7:48 AM

        Elon's going to be left with an engineering team in the hundreds whose primary qualification is that they're his fans. He's going to try to stitch together the remnants of a dozen divisions to accomplish work that probably would have been a multi-year effort at pre-merger staffing levels.

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          November 16, 2022 8:09 AM

          the problem arises when there are people who rely on working to keep their visas..those people are essentually forced to stick with this asshole

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            November 16, 2022 6:02 PM

            As someone whose livelihood was reliant on employment overseas with a work visa for nearly a decade, I can attest to working for a nightmare of a company without many alternative options.

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        November 16, 2022 8:50 AM

        That's the sort of thing that's normal when you're a shoestring startup with people working for sweat equity to build something that doesn't exist. Not something you expect at a company that's the market leader (for Twitter-like services) and has been doing it for 16 years.

        Like I have no doubt Jack Dorsey and the other guys pulled some crazy long hours. They have long since cashed out.

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        November 16, 2022 9:10 AM

        What would happen to someone who was on vacation this week? They just come back and see they're fired because they didn't click a link?

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          November 16, 2022 9:28 AM

          Obviously they're not dedicated enough to the cause if they're not checking their email while on vacation. See ya later lazy bones!

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          November 16, 2022 9:32 AM

          Everyone who didn't cancel their vacations were already fired

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        November 16, 2022 9:33 AM

        "Long hours, high intensity." - does that mean you get paid overtime? If not, why would you give a shit about this? You're not working on rockets.

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        November 16, 2022 4:02 PM

        lmao

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      November 16, 2022 7:48 AM

      Musk acts like he is changing the world when is really just another degenerate rich person

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      November 16, 2022 7:55 AM

      It's clear he needs attention just as much as trump. Everything he does at this point is just to draw attention to himself, it's like oxygen to him.

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      November 16, 2022 8:05 AM

      I feel like him being there at the ground floor for Tesla, SpaceX, etc. is why his insanity has gone unchecked so far — it's simply woven into the fabric of his cult of personality, and perhaps it's why he thinks it's a successful formula.

      What he's running into now is the conflict of another cult of personality, Jack Dorsey's, where his version of insanity went unchecked (relatively speaking), and the reckoning is going to be very hard for him to surrender to and process.

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      November 16, 2022 8:07 AM

      take the severance and gtfo. what a shit-show

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      November 16, 2022 8:12 AM

      He's so dumb thinking people who were passionate about rockets and self-driving electric cars are the norm with engineers. No one wants to give up their lives for a social media platform.

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      November 16, 2022 8:27 AM

      Someone has overestimated the intersection of highly skilled employees vs employees willing to sacrifice their personal time for the god emperor.

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        November 16, 2022 8:29 AM

        "I sleep in the office and work every waking hour so obviously these employees should be willing to do the same" says man worth more than any other person on Earth

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          November 16, 2022 8:36 AM

          Anecdotal but I knew a few folks that applied to work at SpaceX back in the day and it turns out there was a ton of engineers that just burned out because Elon was huge on stuff like mandatory overtime and not allowing vacations. This “hardcore” gimmick is him trying to squeeze as much productivity out of Twitter’s remaining labor force.

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        November 16, 2022 8:56 AM

        Especially in this job market, and working on a project that, honestly, probably isn't going to be all that exciting or interesting.

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      November 16, 2022 8:35 AM

      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/14/tesla-texas-construction-workers-gigafactory-lawsuit-labor-violations

      Amid accusations of constant hazards and onsite accidents, one worker said his bosses at an unnamed subcontractor falsified credentials instead of actually providing him and others with required job training involving education about health, safety, and workers’ rights – including the right to refuse dangerous work.

      Other whistleblowers are reporting what they describe as wage theft and say they weren’t paid at all or didn’t receive proper overtime compensation for their work on the hi-tech facility.

      “Nobody deserves what happened in the gigafactory to happen to them, or their family members, or whomever,” Victor, a worker who asked the Guardian to withhold his last name out of fear of retaliation, said in an exclusive interview about working conditions, adding: “I don’t think it was humane.”


      Shocking - "move fast and break stuff" also applies to human beings.

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      November 16, 2022 9:02 AM

      Counter point:
      Elon: "The consent decree was made under duress. An agreement made under duress, is not valid, as a foundation of law."

      "Are you trained as a lawyer?"

      "I have some familiarity with the legal system. If you're in enough law suits, you pick up a few things along the way."

      /50


      https://twitter.com/chancery_daily/status/1592901983325028353

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        November 16, 2022 9:03 AM

        The transitive genius property at work again. He's now a lawyer.

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        November 16, 2022 9:11 AM

        He’s going to fuck around and find out.

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        November 16, 2022 11:38 AM

        The other side of that duress is BEING RUN BY THE FTC AND POSSIBLE JAIL TIME. Take your pick.

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      November 16, 2022 9:08 AM

      Elon should buy Facebook next

      Or Ticket Master

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        November 16, 2022 10:06 AM

        Ticket Master is already pretty hardcore tbh

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      November 16, 2022 9:30 AM

      The silver lining to this is they're giving people who weren't part of the initial layoff wave a chance to get out with severance.

      It should be opt-in, not opt-out, but clearly that wouldn't align with how this shitshow is being run so it's not surprising

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      November 16, 2022 9:31 AM

      Seems like an incredible deal, the ability to walk away from a train wreck like this with severance? I just don't see how Twitter is going to survive it.

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        November 16, 2022 10:12 AM

        Yeah what’s the estimate for how many people taking this deal? Twitter is already operating well below 50% of past full staffing including contractors. This could take them down to like 20%

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      November 16, 2022 10:37 AM

      Twitter is not tesla or SpaceX. People are passionate and would do this for companies putting cutting edge technology out there. Who would kill themselves for a dime a dozen social media comps y

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        November 16, 2022 11:00 AM

        Not to mention the fact you know your boss is going to be bad mouthing you later regardless

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          November 16, 2022 11:14 AM

          Yeah I can understand someone being willing to work in grueling conditions out of passion for the product. But in this specific situation? Everything is obviously going to shit, who's going to want to be worked to the bone just to keep the lights on?

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        November 16, 2022 11:30 AM

        Those people are fools, IMO. No job is worth this kind of disrespect of your time as a human.

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        November 16, 2022 2:21 PM

        Yeah exactly.

        As if anyone is going to kill themselves to work on a social media app. Seems like a no brainer to just quit and look for a new job.

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        November 16, 2022 7:47 PM

        It’s past its prime too, it’s not like this was 2012.

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      November 16, 2022 11:23 AM

      Do you think he'll actually pay those that leave or figure out some loophole like technically they "quit" or something to avoid the payouts?

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        November 16, 2022 11:39 AM

        It's not even like he's making them click a "Fire me" button or anything. If they simply continue to do their jobs without clicking the button, then he will fire them. And he just left a record in writing saying that it was not because of their personal performance. I don't think he'd be able to weasel out of paying them severance.

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          November 16, 2022 11:48 AM

          Unless he watched that episode of The Office where Michael declares bankruptcy

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        November 16, 2022 11:43 AM

        He’ll probably give re-hire offers to folks, and if they refuse then that nullifies their severance.

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        November 16, 2022 11:44 AM

        remember that 11ft molten iron pit?

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        November 16, 2022 12:28 PM

        he will pay the severance. screwing with that in CA would totally get the beatdown

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      November 16, 2022 12:35 PM

      BREAKING: @elonmusk says he plans to find someone to replace him as acting CEO of Twitter

      https://twitter.com/stocktalkweekly/status/1592918089771134978

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        November 16, 2022 1:03 PM

        I think Parag Agrawal was recently made available to take a CEO job.

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        November 16, 2022 1:55 PM

        So he's not a complete idiot then

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        November 16, 2022 2:06 PM

        Going to be one of his buddies, my money is on Jason Calacanis or maybe Luke Nosek

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        November 16, 2022 2:24 PM

        Heavy emphasis on “acting”

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        November 16, 2022 2:26 PM

        "My work here is done!" - *walks away from explosion without looking back*

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        November 16, 2022 3:00 PM

        Of course he plans on that. I am headed to a dinner event with Gwynn’s Shotwell as we speak, President and COO of SpaceX. She runs the day to day and Elon plays with rocket tech. Will be the same with twitter.

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          November 16, 2022 7:42 PM

          But John, SpaceX and Tesla are only successful because of his tech contributions to spaceships and cars!

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        November 16, 2022 3:13 PM

        Ahhh, a fall guy

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          November 16, 2022 3:18 PM

          I worked for a company that did that, installed a new president, I was her support and she seemed confused and had nothing to do for a couple weeks and then suddenly she was being interviewed on 60 Minutes or some shit because the company was being sued into oblivion by the attorneys general of like 19 different states for fraudulent practices. The interview went horribly as you would expect and she was like a deer in headlights the whole time. The next Monday, they fired her to great fanfare and the old company president stepped back in.

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            November 16, 2022 3:52 PM

            fleabug may have been there during this, I can't find the cringe on Youtube. Anyway not long after that we all showed up to work one morning and the doors were locked

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        November 16, 2022 3:20 PM

        $100 bucks says its not a woman of color

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          November 16, 2022 3:21 PM

          one hundred dollars bucks says it is

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            November 16, 2022 4:46 PM

            I'll bet you a thousand bucks it won't be a little person.

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              November 17, 2022 7:30 AM

              I’ll bet you ten thousand bucks it won’t be a left handed person whose birthday is in July, has green eyes and is exactly 1/4 Mongolian 1/4 Finnish 1/16 Native American and their name starts with a vowel and their middle name is exactly 6 letters long and graduated from a university in North Dakota

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        November 16, 2022 4:18 PM

        Fuck it - I’ll do it.

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          November 16, 2022 4:29 PM

          I mean, I'm not thrilled about making millions of dollars for 3 weeks of work but if I must.....

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            November 16, 2022 6:07 PM

            I think you mean losing billions of dollars in 3 weeks.

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      November 16, 2022 1:07 PM

      From the Post article this is sourced from:

      Musk also acknowledged a tweet claiming he had planned to sleep on the Twitter floor until the organization is fixed, a process he expects to be complete by the end of this week, he said in court.

      Hahahahahahaha

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        November 16, 2022 7:26 PM

        just like that full blown autopilot amirite

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        November 16, 2022 7:44 PM

        He's so fucking stupid! Holy shit!

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        November 16, 2022 8:42 PM

        He doesn't believe that. He's just lying to the courts so he doesn't get in trouble for stealing investor money.

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      November 16, 2022 1:56 PM

      https://i.imgur.com/T8XzMNR.jpg

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      November 16, 2022 3:43 PM

      Text of the email

      https://twitter.com/donie/status/1592859900941852674

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        November 16, 2022 4:02 PM

        Reported as phishing attempt

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        November 16, 2022 6:05 PM

        Yikes, "become more engineering driven" instead of product and design... I don't feel like their problems are technological ones

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          November 16, 2022 6:41 PM

          Yeah, good fucking luck becoming more engineering driven when the CEO has made every capable engineer start looking for a better job.

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      November 16, 2022 4:29 PM

      I know that nothing should surprise me at this point, but it is honestly astonishing to me that this really is a thing that Elon said:

      https://twitter.com/chancery_daily/status/1592892118569455617

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        November 16, 2022 4:44 PM

        That one and that quote about how "he was creating internet in space" while that engineer was just working on a website, holy shit. But not surprising, saw he was interacting with Kyle Rittenhouse so he's clearly living in an echo chamber

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          November 16, 2022 4:59 PM

          Yeah, the internet in space tweet single handedly lowered my opinion of him by a couple levels.

          I've had to deal with a brilliant surgeon who was like that, and frankly the dude was a complete dumbass in every way. He must have been amazing in surgery.

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      November 16, 2022 4:59 PM

      ML says the darndest things. https://twitter.com/digiphile/status/1592895138967453697

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