Shackcast 062 - Behold! The Valve Index!

The Shackcast is back with a brand new Twitter page for you to follow. Give this episode a listen!


Welcome to the Shackcast, the official Shacknews podcast of Shacknews. The Shackcast is back! On the 62nd episode, David, Blake, Greg and Asif return to talk about the latest in gaming news, and they also introduce a brand new Twitter page. Apologies for the poor audio quality. It is Greg's fault.

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Asif Khan is the CEO and majority shareholder of Shacknews. He began his career in video game journalism as a freelancer in 2001 for Asif is a CPA and was formerly an investment adviser representative. After much success in his own personal investments, he retired from his day job in financial services and is currently focused on new private investments. His favorite PC game of all time is Duke Nukem 3D, and he is an unapologetic fan of most things Nintendo. Asif first frequented the Shack when it was sCary's Shugashack to find all things Quake. When he is not immersed in investments or gaming he is a purveyor of fine electronic music. Asif also has an irrational love of Cleveland sports.

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    February 17, 2020 7:45 AM

    Asif Khan posted a new article, Shackcast 062 - Behold! The Valve Index!

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      February 17, 2020 7:50 AM

      Ah good. And I happen to have the day off.

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      February 17, 2020 8:20 AM

      0 to 7 minutes.

      They all talk about fast food and The Good Place. Apparently it recently concluded and it's a pretty good show. I'll have to check that out. I guess it's on hulu?

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      February 17, 2020 8:22 AM

      7min 19sec

      ASIF: I wanted to talk to Greg about Smash Brothers.


      7min 40sec

      ASIF: I want to talk about Ultimate, because there was a patch this week, and I wanted to ask Greg if he had played Byleth yet.
      LOLA: 🐶
      GREG: ... as Byleth?
      CRADDOCK: 🤣
      ASIF: You know, the guy from Fire Emblem?
      CRADDOCK: This is your special correspondent?

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        February 17, 2020 8:30 AM

        Incidentally, based on their conversation, this Shackcast must've been recorded like, on Jan 31st or something.

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        February 17, 2020 8:36 AM

        Discussion devolves into picking apart the patch note changelogs. Buffs across the board for shields. Kirby and Mario are gaining traction in the meta.

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        February 17, 2020 8:40 AM

        I had grave concerns.

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      February 17, 2020 9:12 AM

      31min -- Regarding the pro eSports scene, Nintendo's ... lack of interest in the matter, and going pro at Smash brothers.

      ASIF: It's never been more apparent than now because there's a ton of Nintendo Switches and Smash Ultimate copies out there in the wild.
      CRADDOCK: Mmhm.
      ASIF: And there's people who want to watch it be played. And there's people who want to watch Melee be played, still.
      CRADDOCK: Yeah.
      ASIF: A good example is this guy, Zane, who beat HungryBox, right? The guy who had been king of--both upsets! This weekend.
      CRADDOCK: Mmhm.
      ASIF: Er, this last weekend. Uh, he got into it by watching a documentary about Melee, David.
      CRADDOCK: Mm.
      ASIF: And he's only been playing for like, three or four years.
      CRADDOCK: Geez.
      ASIF: That's all I'm saying. Is like, that's something that's special about that eSport. And eSports in general. And how videogames can survive for decades.
      CRADDOCK: Mmhm.
      ASIF: Because they're just good. They're a good game.
      CRADDOCK: Mhm! 🙂
      ASIF: Unlike Death Stranding. 😐
      CRADDOCK: 😆

      Blake sings the show in.

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      February 17, 2020 9:20 AM


      ASIF: So then we have two people--you already heard them--beaming to us through a series of tubes, into TeamSpeak... uh, which still works thanks to RyDogg1, keeper of the servers.

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      February 17, 2020 9:25 AM

      40 minute 13sec 🎧HEADPHONE WARNING, HOLY SHIT😖.

      The show is poorly mastered so you have the volume turned up, and then suddenly an inserted-ad that is properly normalized and mastered interrupts Blake practically in mid-sentence and it's one of the most jarring things I've heard in a podcast. I thought my app had malfunctioned and skipped track or something to a different podcast.

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        February 17, 2020 9:26 AM

        I told you. Worst audio quality for an episode ever. It is Greg’s fault.

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          February 17, 2020 9:32 AM

          "poorly mastered" is probably harsh.

          You and David? 👌

          Blake and Greg?
          --Too quiet.
          --Blake has an echo.

          Luckily I'm in a quiet room listening with headphones, but if I were driving a car trying to listen to this, it'd be really hard.

          Last episode was actually worse because someone didn't mute their all-talk or something and it was picking up your voice and echoing you as well.

          I think getting Blake and Greg some decent audio equipment and practicing some "sync" techniques, and then mastering those files all together rather than just using the David/Asif track would go a long way.

          That, and don't just cut+paste the ad into the show without notice.

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        February 17, 2020 9:28 AM

        This whole having ad breaks thing is new to us. Please understand.

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      February 17, 2020 9:34 AM

      48min 30sec Blake talks about playing the new Warframe update.

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      February 17, 2020 10:01 AM

      1hr 2min

      Asif starts talking about the Valve Index.

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        February 17, 2020 5:19 PM

        Live on the podcast, during this point, Asif claims twitter handle @TheValveIndex

        1hr 3min 5sec
        ASIF: Should I make a twitter account called TheValveIndex
        CRADDOCK: 😆Yes, that's a great idea!

        Sidenote: I hate Twitter, but if you already have a Twitter account and if it's no skin off your back, you should follow:

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      February 17, 2020 5:06 PM

      1hr 9min

      Asif discusses the mobile game he's playing Two Dots and mobile game genre in general.

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      February 17, 2020 5:10 PM

      1hr 12min Asif talks about Hollow Knight. An argument erupts between Asif and Craddock as to whether or not Zelda 2 NES is a good or bad game.

      Psst: it's a bad game.

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      February 17, 2020 5:13 PM

      1hr 16min 20sec

      Craddock mentions that he's working on a biography for "a former Nintendo executive" and the conversation that follows mentions Reggie a lot.

      He probably signed an NDA preventing him from confirming, but I suspect that Craddock is writing Reggie's biography. Either way, congrats Craddock!

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      February 17, 2020 5:23 PM

      1hr 29min 48sec

      CRADDOCK: Greg, tell me about Warcraft 3:Reforged being on fire.

      Discussion turns to Blizzard and their management history about Mike Morheim.

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      February 17, 2020 5:38 PM

      1hr 37min 28sec

      ASIF: But going back to RE3.
      CRADDOCK: Yes.
      ASIF: That's gonna own!
      CRADDOCK: Yeah--THAT is a full-blown remake it looks awesome.
      ASIF: That is gonna be really good.
      CRADDOCK: Yeah.
      ASIF: And that is uh, it comes to... having an engine.

      Discussion leads to Capcom, RE8 and whether or not to remake RE4. I agree with Asif that the RE-engine is the best commercial engine out there right now.

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        February 17, 2020 5:45 PM

        🌮TACO BETS🌮

        1hr 39min 39sec

        CRADDOCK: Let me tell you, I'm gonna make a prediction right now. A taco prediction.
        ASIF: Okay.
        CRADDOCK: RE4Make will come out in 2026. That's very specific.
        ASIF: Wow. 😄
        CRADDOCK:--but hear me out--
        ASIF: That's a long term taco bet! 😃
        CRADDOCK: The RE2Make was announced in 2018, the 20th anniversary of RE2, but it came out in 2019. The 21-year marker. January 1998 to January 2019.
        ASIF: Okay.
        CRADDOCK: The RE3Make was announced in 2019, on the 20 year anniversary of RE3. It's coming out this year in the 21st anniversary. So RE4 came out in 2005, I'm saying that Capcom is going to announce a RE4Make in 2025, and then release in 2026 for twenty one years.

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      February 17, 2020 5:51 PM

      1hr 44min 5sec

      CRADDOCK: You know what Blake? Are you down with a Chronotrigger remake?
      BLAKE: Oh my God. You can't remake a perfect game.

      Sidenote: I agree. I don't trust Square Japan with Chronotrigger. Blake later goes on to discuss who he would have making Chronotrigger remake, and I would agree I suppose... but idk. Maybe Level 5's Ni No Kuni team?

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      February 17, 2020 6:00 PM

      1hr 52min 14sec

      Asif talks about the news in videogames, starting with the Nintendo earnings report.

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        February 17, 2020 7:14 PM

        🌮1hr 55min

        ASIF: So we're not going to see a new hardware model of the Switch. A new improved Switch in 2020. So David owes me a taco.
        CRADDOCK: I owe you a taco.
        ASIF: David owes--Blake you were here.
        CRADDOCK: Yeah, Blake witnessed.
        BLAKE: ... Yeah.
        ASIF: He owes me a taco, right?
        CRADDOCK: I do.
        BLAKE: Alright. I suppose I do.
        ASIF: Na--no, you don't!
        BLAKE: What?
        ASIF: 😂
        CRADDOCK: Who's on first!
        ASIF: You don't owe me a taco. You were witness to a taco bet!
        BLAKE: That's right.
        ASIF: Wikus? Wikus.
        BLAKE: The things that I forget!
        ASIF: Wikus! You out there, Wikus? It's almost two hours in, Wikus. I hope you're there.

        NOTE: Yeah I was grocery store shopping at the time.

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          February 17, 2020 7:17 PM

          ASIF: You are a witness, too, Wikus. David owes me a taco. Please confirm, in your thread,
          CRADDOCK: Wikus witnessed.
          ASIF: When you do post your thread, probably three days after the article went live,
          CRADDOCK: Right.
          ASIF: And then CrustAr is there.
          CRADDOCK: "What's going on??"
          ASIF: CrustAr's like, What did briefcase man say next?

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            February 17, 2020 7:31 PM


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      February 17, 2020 7:25 PM

      2hr 00min 32sec

      GREG: I don't know why people are upset about "no Switch Pro" because the Xbox's lifecycle was thirteen years and I get that technology is changing rapidly--
      CRADDOCK: Whoa whoa whoa whoa, "Xbox lifecycle was thirteen years" back up.
      GREG: Xbox 360, 2001 when it came out.


      Asif, where did you hire this guy?

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        February 17, 2020 7:36 PM

        CRADDOCK: No no no! 😠It was eight years.
        ASIF: Yeah.
        GREG: ... Eight years?
        CRADDOCK: Yeah!
        ASIF: No console has ever had a thirteen year life cycle.

        🤔Off the top of my head... I *think* the original Gameboy came out in 1989 and was succeeded by the GBA in 2001. That's twelve years, but there could have been GB titles published after 2001, which would've made it a thirteen+ year lifecycle.

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      February 17, 2020 8:01 PM

      2hr 18min

      They discuss the new Sonic movie (but it's not out at the time of recording)

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      February 17, 2020 8:20 PM

      (I gotta go to bed soon. I listened to the whole show but I can't transcribe it all)

      🌮 3hr 25min 18sec

      ASIF: Taco bets. We should do some taco bets on the Stadia's end of life.
      CRADDOCK: Yeah.
      BLAKE: I said that it would be dead within the end of the year after launching. It was basically dead on arrival.
      ASIF: I'm saying it's gonna make it to 2022. I'm gonna say first quarter 2022, they shut it down.
      CRADDOCK: I'm gonna say by December 31st 2021. Before 2022.
      ASIF: So you're saying before 2022. I'm saying first-quarter 2022.
      BLAKE: I'm saying this year.
      ASIF: Blake's saying this year. So then, if Blake is right, David and I have to buy him tacos. If you're right, Blake and I have to buy you tacos. If I'm right, you guys have to buy me a taco.
      CRADDOCK: Yeah.
      ASIF: Sound good?
      BLAKE: Sounds fair.
      ASIF: I think game-ifying Stadia like this is probably the most entertaining thing to happen to Stadia.
      CRADDOCK (breathes in): Yeah.
      ASIF: 😆 So there's that. Uh, and I appreciate Wikus for being our other witness to these degenerate taco bets that we have.
      CRADDOCK: Mmhm.
      ASIF: He's given a good behind-the-scenes look at how shacknews operates. We are basically on a taco economy.
      CRADDOCK: Well we moved on from ham sandwiches.
      ASIF: Yeah. Yeah well I mean I don't really eat ham.
      CRADDOCK: No.
      ASIF: It was more of a bargaining chip.

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        February 17, 2020 8:27 PM

        3hr 27min 4sec

        ASIF: We have some bigger articles on the site. Our 52 most anticipated games of the year, list. All the Destiny guides you could want. A lot of Monster Hunter World guides... check out all that stuff. I guess--did you see what happened to the--so... Wikus transcribes this podcast
        CRADDOCK: Yeah.
        ASIF: Oh wait, do I have to do the worst shacker list?
        CRADDOCK: Um, you probably should.
        BLAKE: I can tell you my blood sugar is getting really low.
        ASIF: Okay. I mean let's just stick with--there was a shacker that came back... yesterday or maybe two days ago. You know what? Let's move him to the top of the list.
        CRADDOCK: Okay.
        ASIF(in a distracted tone): Shack mods... uh my good buddy DukeNuked. Hey just remember if you see something, say something... to DukeNuked. And he'll take care of it. You can SM DukeNuked. Did you know that DukeNuked used to post, David?
        CRADDOCK: No, I did not know that.

        sidenote: Neither did I. I thought DukeNuked was an account shared by all the mods.

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          February 17, 2020 8:36 PM

          3hr 28min 28sec

          ASIF: Okay, so this guy--I'm gonna move him above jorell_kovin.
          CRADDOCK: 😮
          ASIF (spells out the name): scrivernm. Banned shacker. Reappears. Banned again.
          CRADDOCK: Damn.
          ASIF: Yeah. Goodbye. Number one. We'll put jorell_kovin at number two. And then, for number three?
          CRADDOCK (whispering): The Wisp! Wisp!
          ASIF: You said it.
          CRADDOCK: Yeah.
          ASIF: I... I dunno...
          CRADDOCK: No. You know what? No, what's his name, um. 🤔Hm. Snapplewolf. Is that it?
          ASIF: Snapplewolf?
          CRADDOCK: Yeah, he can be a dick.
          BLAKE: Snapplewolf's alright.
          ASIF: I mean... I wouldn't call him one of the top three worst.
          CRADDOCK: No. I guess not.
          ASIF: I wouldn't--I'm not gonna call Wisp! one of the top three worst.
          CRADDOCK: Really?
          ASIF: I just said I'm not gonna call Wisp! one of the top three worst.
          CRADDOCK: 😒

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            February 17, 2020 8:39 PM


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            February 17, 2020 8:41 PM

            ASIF: I think this week, it'll be scrivernm number one. jorell_kovin number two. And then like, I don't know... oh this guy! 😆Here we go. Uh, we posted our patch notes, right? For super smash bros ultimate.
            CRADDOCK: Mmhm.
            ASIF: This guy comes in, and I think this is fair, he's not gonna be around for long. I perma-banned him. Uh, pvapoint he goes "Super! I like it!" and then he links a spam account trying to phish your password.
            CRADDOCK: Not cool!
            ASIF: Yeah. So screw you. You're the third worst shacker this week.

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            February 18, 2020 8:52 AM

            Wait.. why am I in the running with jorrel? Am I really that much of an asshole?

            I don’t understand.

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              February 18, 2020 9:27 AM

              I think you've been mean to me before, but I can't recall a specific example so maybe not. 🤷‍♂️

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      February 17, 2020 8:48 PM

      3hr 31min 44sec

      ASIF: So, hopefully you got that, Wikus. Congratulations, Wikus, you're not the worst for two weeks in a row.
      CRADDOCK: Boom. You're on a hot streak.
      BLAKE: 😃
      ASIF: But! I am gonna do this. This is the, what--what do we call it? Soapbox?
      CRADDOCK: Soapbox.
      ASIF: What I was saying is, it's funny. Because, in doing what Wikus does...
      CRADDOCK: Yeah, he's hurting our views.
      ASIF: By transcribing our podcast, he inherently hurts the listenership.
      CRADDOCK: Yeah. Cause you don't have to click the article.
      ASIF: You don't have to give us a page view. You can go on LAMP, and read Wikus's thread.
      CRADDOCK: Yeah.
      ASIF: Or on Shackbrowse. Or on LatestChatty. And you can just read Wikus's thread and you don't have to consume the podcast.
      CRADDOCK: Right.
      ASIF: And all the interesting stuff is just given to you right there.
      CRADDOCK: Mmhm.
      ASIF: Even this part.

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        February 17, 2020 9:03 PM

        ASIF: So if you're on the internet, which you probably are because you're listening to us through a series of tubes,

        😐 WIKUS 😐

        And let's say you're on, I dunno, Twitter? And you see a link pass by. Maybe it's about impeachment. Maybe it's about fires in Australia. Maybe it's about... I dunno, Teslas! Accellerating! You know? The unintended-acceleration story
        CRADDOCK: Yes.
        ASIF: From a TSLAQ. Maybe it's that and you're like 😮"Oh! This seems like a reasonable article, I'm gonna share it!" NO! Click the link first! Read the article! Watch the video! Listen to the podcast! Actually consume the content, and judge it! Before. You share it. Like a mindless. moron. on the internet. And especially before you react to it!
        CRADDOCK: Yes.
        ASIF: And especially if you're reading a thread, and you see something taken out of context from a podcast. Maybe you should actually go listen to that timestamped point in the podcast.
        CRADDOCK: Yeah.
        ASIF: To give yourself even more context around what I was talking about. Like The Witcher 3. Cause just by saying that I don't like The Witcher 3 in the chatty, you're pouring gasoline on me, Wikus!
        CRADDOCK: Right.

        ... I mean, it's your own words! I just work here.

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          February 17, 2020 9:12 PM

          ASIF: But CrustaR understood once I gave him the context that I. Was fighting. For Mario Maker. And Rocket League that year.
          CRADDOCK: Yeah.
          ASIF: And those were two good games that also came out the same year as Witcher 3.
          CRADDOCK: Mmhm.
          ASIF: That's all it was.
          CRADDOCK: Yeah.
          ASIF: I don't know. So yeah, click the link. Read the article. Watch the video. And also, if you care about the content creator, it helps them, because they're judged by viewership, and listenership, and reach and all those things. So, when Wikus inevitably transcribes these words , again... even if you've read it just click on the article. Go find the article. Click on 'podcasts' on the topic page, and maybe even listen to the podcast. Or subscribe. Or leave us a review! Even if you don't listen to the podcast, leave us a review CrustaR. I'd love for you to do that.
          CRADDOCK: Yes.
          ASIF: Even though I just told you not to do that, because of the situation we are in...
          CRADDOCK: Do that.
          ASIF: So congratulations, Wikus. Way to go. You did it. You ruined the internet.
          CRADDOCK: 😩
          ASIF: And somehow you're not even in the top three worst shackers! 😆
          CRADDOCK: It was a rough week for shackers! 😁

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