Watch Microsoft's Xbox E3 2019 live stream here

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Microsoft’s Xbox E3 2019 live stream ushers in this year’s iconic gaming expo. As the official start point of the event, Microsoft has a lot of responsibility on its shoulders. Thankfully, Xbox has gone from strength to strength, and Phil Spencer is hardly going to sit idly by and not capitalize on all the recent developer acquisitions. Please check out the Xbox E3 2019 live stream below!

You can also check out the Xbox stream on Twitch, Mixer, and YouTube.

Xbox E3 2019 live stream

The Microsoft Xbox E3 2019 stream starts on Sunday, June 9 at 1PM PT / 4PM ET. The Xbox E3 live streams typically last between 90 minutes to 2 hours, and in recent years, that time is often jam-packed full of games. Last year, the event kicked off with Halo Infinite, so hopefully this year we’re treated to a little bit more than an in-engine teaser.

Microsoft Xbox E3 2019 live stream
The Outer Worlds is being developed by Obsidian Entertainment, one of Microsoft's recent acquisitions.

As mentioned above, Microsoft has recently acquired numerous developers, with one of the major ones being Obsidian Entertainment, but there are also many others. Some of the developers making exclusive titles for Xbox include: 343 Industries, The Coalition, Turn 10, Rare, The Initiative, Undead Labs, Playground Games, Ninja Theory, and Compulsion Games. What this means is that Xbox is in an excellent position to depose the absent monarch, PlayStation, which is often lauded as the exclusive king.

Here’s hoping that this E3 will bring Xbox and Windows 10 players a whole lot of exclusive titles to experience on their preferred platforms. Josh has done a thorough write-up of exactly what we might expect from Xbox’s E3 2019 presentation.

Personally, I’m holding out hope for a new Fable title, as well as more information on Halo Infinite, and something more from Rare regarding Sea of Thieves.

Be sure to keep it locked to Shacknews as we bring you the latest news, announcements, and exclusive developer interviews fresh out of E3 2019.

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    June 9, 2019 9:00 AM

    Sam Chandler posted a new article, Watch Microsoft's Xbox E3 2019 live stream here

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      June 9, 2019 9:06 AM

      Is this going to be our megathread?

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      June 9, 2019 9:55 AM

      What’s your wildest but most realistic prediction for the conference?

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        June 9, 2019 9:55 AM

        Mine is either xcloud on switch in 2019 or a new viva piñata game

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        June 9, 2019 10:09 AM

        Announce that IO interactive is now a part of Microsoft game studios

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          June 9, 2019 10:18 AM

          It wouldn’t shock me to get a new round of studio purchase announcements.

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        June 9, 2019 10:11 AM

        gamepass on switch via xcloud

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        June 9, 2019 10:13 AM

        Cyberpunk 2077 exclusive on Xbox and PC.

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          June 9, 2019 10:18 AM

          I don’t think MS would spend the money needed. I do see them paying to get it a play anaywhwre title and on game pass.

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            June 9, 2019 10:21 AM

            A timed exclusive would be more realistic but also wild.

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              June 9, 2019 10:40 AM

              what's the upside for CD Projekt, though?

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                June 9, 2019 10:43 AM

                $$$$ -I would imagine

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                  June 9, 2019 10:52 AM

                  Yeah they could make back a huge part of production costs with ms exclusive money.

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                    June 9, 2019 11:05 AM

                    While money is always nice, TW3 pushed the least amount of units on the xb1 (and I believe the most on PS4, PC may have overtaken that). So they'd have to choose between pissing off a section of their customer base and temporarily losing a significant amount of sales on the PS4, enough to probably recoup their production costs and more, or taking the money from MS.

                    That just doesn't seem like a good business strategy on their part, unless MS is offering an absolutely stupid amount of cash. I'm not saying it wouldn't happen, but it just doesn't seem like a smart move for either party.

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                      June 9, 2019 11:11 AM

                      We agree. I could see Xbox exclusive times dlc though.

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          June 9, 2019 10:37 AM

          They already have huge posters that announce coming for thew ps4 at E3. I don't think that will happen.

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        June 9, 2019 10:58 AM

        Not expecting it, but it wouldn't shock me if a subset of PC games were available to run on xb1 (with unmodified executables), and supported m+kb. Perhaps some of the PC game pass games, and that this list will grow in the future so that the xbox can start to legitimately compete with PCs.

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      June 9, 2019 10:20 AM

      I am not going to be posting or watching the thread after this goes Live because I am going to be very closely watching this one.

      If Microsoft says all the right things, and all the things that I think they're going to say, then they actually stand a decent chance at getting me to jump ship to their ecosystem. That's pretty major.

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      June 9, 2019 12:28 PM

      Official : [ MEGA Microsoft's Xbox E3 2019 thread ] starts here, let's freaking GO!!!!!!!!! \m/ :) \m/ . I am just finishing up a late breakfast and getting hyped out of my mind!

      Brb....

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      June 9, 2019 12:30 PM

      Ugh, need to go to a family dinner, whyyyyyy! Going to miss this

      Relying on this thread for updates.

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        June 9, 2019 12:37 PM

        cancel family dinner. this happens once a year.

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        June 9, 2019 12:39 PM

        :( hang in there Bro, don't worry going to be giving a minute to minute updates / coverage we got your back :)

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          June 9, 2019 12:41 PM

          Haha I know you totally do! I'll be refreshing this thread every chance I get

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      June 9, 2019 12:36 PM

      * MS Xbox Stream links

      > https://www.twitch.tv/xbox
      > https://www.xbox.com/en-CA/e3
      > https://mixer.com/Xbox?vod=105264996 * should be in 4K *

      Have half a bowl left to eat and then I just going to make a Cold Hot Chocolate Milk and I will settle in...

      [ Hype Meter = 900 / 1000 ]

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        June 9, 2019 12:41 PM

        FYI If you're watching on Mixer to get your free swag, make sure you hit the "watch in 4k" button on the video context menu!

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          June 9, 2019 1:14 PM

          Just switch Man it looks amazing quality, thanks Dude!

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      June 9, 2019 12:37 PM

      23 minutes to go...

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      June 9, 2019 12:38 PM

      I guess I'll post here and sit in the GB chat during the live stream.

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      June 9, 2019 12:38 PM

      I’m in the audience! Should be a good show. http://chattypics.com/files/iPhoneUpload_fhwuhuthr3.jpg

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      June 9, 2019 12:41 PM

      why is this post streaming music ugh

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      June 9, 2019 12:41 PM

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        June 9, 2019 12:43 PM

        We’re getting a date

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        June 9, 2019 12:45 PM

        Yup. More than likely:

        Date.
        New trailer.
        A lot more information.
        An overview of the editions that will be launched.

        I wouldn't be surprised to also have the other game announced.

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        June 9, 2019 12:51 PM

        Is that gonna happen during the xbox briefing?

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      June 9, 2019 12:41 PM

      just loaded up the xbox channel on mixer, hopefully we get some free shit for watching there again

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      June 9, 2019 12:42 PM

      Rumors of Miyamoto to be part of MS's conference., implying Xbox functionality on the Switch (which has been rumored)

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      June 9, 2019 12:45 PM

      Sounds like Super Mario Maker 2, Zelda Breath of the Wild(4k/60fps) or Super Mario Odyssey(4k/60fps) are strong contenders for Miyamoto to announce
      coming to the Xbox platform.

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      June 9, 2019 12:48 PM

      The Giant Bomb livestream is up for those that want their commentary:
      https://www.giantbomb.com/chat/

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        June 9, 2019 12:51 PM

        Turned on mixer, giantbomb and lamp on the pc, latest chatty on phone.

        Ready for this.

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        June 9, 2019 12:51 PM

        Always love hearing their takes on stuff but I personally have to wait for the second or third viewing to watch that. They talk over a lot of details.

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          June 9, 2019 12:58 PM

          I do it the opposite way; watch them first, and then go back and re-watch direct feeds of the stuff I'm interested in later.

          Gotta do something while waiting for Bethesda's Doom stream later.

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            June 9, 2019 1:01 PM

            Yeah, they can make the dumb and slow parts bearable.

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      June 9, 2019 12:50 PM

      ALL XBOX GAMES ON SWITCH HOLY SHIT

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      June 9, 2019 12:52 PM

      7:30 to go!

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      June 9, 2019 12:53 PM

      Guy stfu and let people watch the stream. Its literally in a few minutes stop reposting reddit shit in this particular thread. Every other thread is fair game but don't ruin it for people who went dark for this.

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      June 9, 2019 12:54 PM

      I think there is something wrong with me. Those D-pads seem to be writhing seductively at me.

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      June 9, 2019 12:58 PM

      2 minutes!!! Switching rooms... run!!!!!!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 12:59 PM

      rudds went for the bold prediction that MS will launch a year early. Logistically that is probably impossible for AMD to deliver the chips. But holy hell that would be amazing.

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      June 9, 2019 1:00 PM

      Here.... we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ Starts ]

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      June 9, 2019 1:00 PM

      There is a count down 1 ON!

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      June 9, 2019 1:01 PM

      They got the Blue Man Group announcer!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:01 PM

      Let's do this!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:02 PM

      The show has started a space land must be The Outer Worlds!

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      June 9, 2019 1:03 PM

      Day one Baby!

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      June 9, 2019 1:04 PM

      Oh damn.. Game Pass at launch.

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      June 9, 2019 1:05 PM

      Game pass is life goddamn. Never buy another game

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      June 9, 2019 1:05 PM

      Ninja Theory is up and new game is up here we go! It's that leaked brawler 4v4!

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      June 9, 2019 1:06 PM

      Outer Worlds looks great! Jeff says its real cool! NEAT!

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      June 9, 2019 1:08 PM

      would love to get these ori games on switch

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        June 9, 2019 1:09 PM

        I'd put money on that happening with Cuphead on there. At least the first.

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          June 9, 2019 1:11 PM

          yeah, here's hoping, good point with cuphead. heard a lot of rumors its likely.

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      June 9, 2019 1:08 PM

      I could deal with more Ori.

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      June 9, 2019 1:08 PM

      Is this fucking gameplay of Ori? Because this looks spectacular. HOLY SHIT IT IS.

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      June 9, 2019 1:08 PM

      Ori 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It looks insane!!! Feb 11th launch 2020

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      June 9, 2019 1:09 PM

      Ori looks awfully good.

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      June 9, 2019 1:09 PM

      Ori 2 looks amazing.

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      June 9, 2019 1:09 PM

      Diablo 4 is looking great!

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      June 9, 2019 1:09 PM

      Diablo 4!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:10 PM

      LOL it's literally Minecraft Diablo

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        June 9, 2019 1:11 PM

        Which sounds like a great idea.

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        June 9, 2019 1:13 PM

        Pretty damn good idea. Get all the minecraft playing kids to get onto the loot cycle rpg.

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      June 9, 2019 1:10 PM

      holy shit, Ori looks incredible

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      June 9, 2019 1:10 PM

      New Minecraft game looks like Diablo!

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      June 9, 2019 1:10 PM

      New Ori. Holy fuck it’s so gorgeous I want to weep.

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      June 9, 2019 1:11 PM

      minecraft diablo is not the worst idea i've ever heard

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      June 9, 2019 1:11 PM

      I hope my phone is powerful enough for Minecraft Dungeons!

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      June 9, 2019 1:11 PM

      Crowd cheers like crazy for Phil , Man they already killed the start of the show and that was the intro LOL

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      June 9, 2019 1:11 PM

      UNCLE PHIL FIRESIDE CHAT TIME

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      June 9, 2019 1:12 PM

      is it all xbox division people in the first few rows? who cheers this hard for company execs?

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      June 9, 2019 1:12 PM

      Psychonauts2 2shirt?

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      June 9, 2019 1:13 PM

      2 Billion players - DR Evil pinky

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      June 9, 2019 1:13 PM

      phil spencer please stop talking

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        June 9, 2019 1:14 PM

        Yeah, not feeling this.

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        June 9, 2019 1:15 PM

        At least so generically. Get specific.

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        June 9, 2019 1:15 PM

        whenever CEO X comes out and talks at these things it always feels kinda forced to me and kinda lame. Could just be me though.

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          June 9, 2019 1:16 PM

          It's not just you. There's an occasional exception, but that's...the exception.

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        June 9, 2019 1:15 PM

        A new era of masturbatory self congratulation

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        June 9, 2019 1:18 PM

        But he's your Phil Spencer

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      June 9, 2019 1:13 PM

      Someone explain the Minecraft diablo thing to me since I can't see anything

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        June 9, 2019 1:14 PM

        Take Diablo 2, set it with Minecraft graphics.

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        June 9, 2019 1:14 PM

        gameplay looks like diablo but with minecraft graphics. 4 player coop listed

        not a lot of info yet

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        June 9, 2019 1:14 PM

        New game. 4 player coop. Diablo style looter in Minecraft style.

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        June 9, 2019 1:15 PM

        It's a 4-player co-op dungeon crawler called Minecraft Dungeons. A separate game from Minecraft.

        It literally looked a lot like Diablo. Top down isometric view, lots of enemies, etc.

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      June 9, 2019 1:14 PM

      Tell me he's leading into a switch announcement.

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      June 9, 2019 1:16 PM

      60 games!!!!!!! Plus Xbox Two!!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:16 PM

      Not gonna lie, playing Minecraft Diablo with my kids sounds pretty fun

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      June 9, 2019 1:16 PM

      Still really liking this new Jedi game. Sorry

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      June 9, 2019 1:16 PM

      Man, Be more into this Jedi if the protagonist wasnt so generic.

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        June 9, 2019 1:19 PM

        Of all the interesting races and characters in Star Wars, we get another boring white dude.

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          June 9, 2019 2:04 PM

          I know, man, just ANYTHING different would have been great. Wish some Sci-fi games would give us an alien protagonist.

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      June 9, 2019 1:17 PM

      That's some uncanny valley shit in that Jedi game

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      June 9, 2019 1:18 PM

      creepy stuff, kinda digging this.

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      June 9, 2019 1:18 PM

      Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order trailer, looks good 11:15:19 release date!

      New game dude running with flash light looks insane!!!!!!!!!!!!! World premier I think it is Alan Wake 3!!!!!!!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:19 PM

      How to train your Jedi

      he looks/sounds like Hiccup

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      June 9, 2019 1:19 PM

      CYBERPUNKKKKK

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      June 9, 2019 1:19 PM

      A... Blair Witch video game? in 2019? What the fuck, that's bold.

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        June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

        The last 3 were pretty poor, based on the Nocturn engine.

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      June 9, 2019 1:19 PM

      Six to midnight.. CYBERPUNK!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:20 PM

      Huh. A Blair Witch game. That's a surprise.

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      June 9, 2019 1:20 PM

      New epic game is Blair Witch with the flash light looks epic!

      Cyberpunk 2077 video has started OMG!!!!!!!!!!! Looks crazy insane!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:21 PM

      Seriously making a case for me to pick up game pass.

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        June 9, 2019 1:33 PM

        Ya, this is basically a big commercial about game pass. Ugh. Making me want to pick up an Xbox. Hmmm.

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      June 9, 2019 1:22 PM

      Still no idea what type of game cyberpunk actually is

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        June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

        John Wick basically it looks like hahaha

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      June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

      WTF Keanu in Cyberpunk?!

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      June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

      IT KAANU RIVES!

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      June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

      oh shiiiitttttttt keanu

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      June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

      WHOA

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      June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

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      June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

      Holy Shit is Keaneu!

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      June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

      haha, pretty cool

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      June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

      WHOA!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

      Cyberpunk 2077 is insane! OMG John Wick is in it!!!!!!!

      Bleeding Edge - E3 2019 - Announce Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpU8kyX6ae0

      Ori and the Will of the Wisps - E3 2019 - Gameplay Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2reK8k8nwBc

      Minecraft Dungeons - E3 2019 - Gameplay Reveal Trailer : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0yh51p9P80

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      June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

      KEANU REEVES IN CYBER PUNK!?! AND ON STAGE?!?!!?

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      June 9, 2019 1:23 PM

      No fucking way!!!!!!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:24 PM

      WHOAAAAAAAAAAAA!

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      June 9, 2019 1:24 PM

      Whoa

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      June 9, 2019 1:24 PM

      this unironically rules

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      June 9, 2019 1:24 PM

      Perfect

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      June 9, 2019 1:24 PM

      Well shit!

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      June 9, 2019 1:24 PM

      OH MAN THAT FUCKIN' RULED!

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      June 9, 2019 1:24 PM

      I love it.

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      June 9, 2019 1:25 PM

      Now that is a home run. Just when I thought everything leaked.

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      June 9, 2019 1:25 PM

      This is bizzare

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      June 9, 2019 1:25 PM

      Man, I would NEVER have predicted something like this shit.

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      June 9, 2019 1:25 PM

      MS win

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      June 9, 2019 1:26 PM

      Haha holy shit, that's hilarious. Kinda weird as fuck and unnecessary but I'll take it. Hope they Don't onimusha this.

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      June 9, 2019 1:26 PM

      Release date!!!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:26 PM

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      June 9, 2019 1:26 PM

      This is the best!

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      June 9, 2019 1:26 PM

      So 4-16-2020 is Cyberpunk 2077 day.

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      June 9, 2019 1:26 PM

      FUCK YES!!!!!! Game of the Decade!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:27 PM

      They should have left Cyberpunk to the end. They blew their load too early

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      June 9, 2019 1:27 PM

      Cyberpunk 2077 release date is 04:16:2020 . Didn't I say MS E3 would own and be the best... and we just started!!!!! This is crazy!!!!!!

      Another new game!!!! Eat it haters MS owns \m/

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        June 9, 2019 1:29 PM

        +3 delays of indeterminable length.

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        June 9, 2019 1:30 PM

        time to go on media blackout for it i guess

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        June 9, 2019 1:30 PM

        i know when to plan a holiday now!

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      June 9, 2019 1:27 PM

      10 months!

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      June 9, 2019 1:27 PM

      Holy shit, birthday gift. Awesome.

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      June 9, 2019 1:27 PM

      OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD

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      June 9, 2019 1:27 PM

      i'd hate being the developer of the game that followed CP2077

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      June 9, 2019 1:28 PM

      Animal Crossing The River Styx?

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        June 9, 2019 1:28 PM

        Oh shit I was joking but it is. Holy shit that looked amazing.

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      June 9, 2019 1:28 PM

      Cool animated 2D side scroller called : Spiritfarer

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      June 9, 2019 1:28 PM

      Cybermeh

      BATTLE FUCKING TOADS

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      June 9, 2019 1:29 PM

      Hah, that pause music.

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      June 9, 2019 1:29 PM

      OMG Battletoads and it looks insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        June 9, 2019 1:30 PM

        I'd kinda like to see more animation frames for that style, frankly.

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          June 9, 2019 1:31 PM

          Yeah the animation looked good.

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          June 9, 2019 1:34 PM

          Ya, for as much system power that's available, you'd think the animation would be a bit more fluid.

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            June 9, 2019 1:34 PM

            That's down to creating the assets more than the capabilities of the system.

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              June 9, 2019 1:35 PM

              Right, I mean it's possible. They just chose not to. I'm sure it's a cost issue.

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                June 9, 2019 1:35 PM

                It always is when you have reduced animation, yeah.

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          June 10, 2019 12:25 AM

          Yeah I re watched it, I agree especially if you have seen the Streets Of Rage 4 footage that was leaked.

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        June 9, 2019 1:35 PM

        "Looks like a game devolver would pass on"- Jeff gerstman dropping bombs.

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      June 9, 2019 1:30 PM

      Cool new game like Comix Zone!!! Nice.

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      June 9, 2019 1:31 PM

      Dude, what the FUCK is with all this insanely awesome art styles?! Holy shit every game has been a different and unique art style that I haven't seen many games do (Save Minecraft) and they're all epic.

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      June 9, 2019 1:31 PM

      Some incredible art work in this title.

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      June 9, 2019 1:32 PM

      With Gampass the number of games I'll have to buy will be way down.

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        June 9, 2019 1:34 PM

        Yeah they are really making GamePass a super attractive option. All the small games would make it well worth it. I still want to see a combo gold+gamepass for $15/m.

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          June 9, 2019 1:35 PM

          They’ve already announced that.

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          June 9, 2019 1:37 PM

          That already is out there. Merged my existing stuff (gold + game pass) today in the ultimate pass

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      June 9, 2019 1:32 PM

      A truck load of epic indie games are being shown!!!!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 1:35 PM

      I think game passes are bad it is going to kill game devs over time compared to how it is now, just saying.

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        June 9, 2019 1:35 PM

        Probably not. It's basically what's happening with original content on HBO, Netflix, Amazon, Apple TV+, Disney+, etc, etc, etc.

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        June 9, 2019 1:36 PM

        Why do you think that?

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          June 9, 2019 1:41 PM

          Everyone will do it eventually and that is a massive cut in profit , big shops are going to take a huge hit. $79.99 compared to some crumbs is no joke.

          A game pass is almost like Spotify, I don't understand how a shop will be sustainable in comparison to full price per customer per game. Sort of insane any dev actually goes along with it.

          Maybe I am missing something, I just don't see how it won't hurt the shops and devs. I have a lot of friends on Spotify it is brutal to make any money with their music, not sure how it will be different for video games.

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            June 9, 2019 2:34 PM

            As compared to how some of us shop now? You see non-trivial cuts even on AAA games with only a month of being prepared to wait.

            Shit, I can't remember the last game I bought at full price. Even Division 2, I bought a month or so after release, and it was 25% off or thereabouts. Most I wait for 50% or more, as you can guarantee it's not going to be that long.

            Plus, there are games I've played on Game Pass that I would just never have taken the punt on if I had to go and buy it myself. It allows me the freedom to explore and try things I ordinarily wouldn't, so they get some eyeballs from me they otherwise wouldn't.

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              June 9, 2019 3:03 PM

              A game pass is an incredible value for the customer no one can dispute that and I am not. But like you said you wait for 25 to 50 % off but that is still an amount per game that the shop/dev gets, with a pass most games will get nothing but crumbs unless it is popular and gets the volume of hits.

              If the service is anything like Spotify then it will be very difficult for none popular + mainstream games to make a profit and stay a float.

              Will see how it goes but I worry :( , I really can't see how it could possibly be the same or better than say Steam or any other Digital store even with it's 30% cut and the other expenses.

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                June 9, 2019 3:08 PM

                Sure, I get that - it's fractions of a sub rather than an outright purchase. But I've played games on Game pass I'll never just randomly splurge on - so they get eyeballs they otherwise wouldn't through that mechanism. It's not a simple problem - but hey just get the studio bought by MS as an Xbox Game Studio, and then MS can eat the cost!

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                  June 9, 2019 5:41 PM

                  Boom! Case closed I think you just hit it on the nail "just get the studio bought by MS as an Xbox Game Studio, and then MS can eat the cost!" this would 100% make sense and everyone would win! Really I think this is what it comes down to and how it can 100% work. Shops and devs get their normal money since they are part of MS and pretty much employees and the customers get a massive value bonus who get the pass. Then it becomes a case of flexing which shops you have and what menu of games that are 1st party you can offer and anyone that hates monthly fees just buys which ever games they love out right.

                  I like dis :) , I think if they ever found it doesn't pay the bills MS would juice up the monthly price or dump it all together. So really the shops they bought will be very important to take care of for they fuel your game passes. I think we are good here, after I talked it out I am feeling good about it LOL :)

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        June 9, 2019 1:39 PM

        Hard to say how it'll play out. But I see your point; if services like Netflix end with reduced movie sales, services like this might have a similar impact for game sales (and several in this thread have already said they'd buy fewer games).

        If sales do trend down it puts more negotiating power in the hands of the service providers.

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          June 9, 2019 1:46 PM

          Honestly Man I think it's a massive mistake and a short term gain for the service provider. I really can't see how the Devs and shops are going to benefit, it will make no one buy a full priced games once it take off they will think it's too much.

          Basically it's going to hard cor devalue all video games and make it a popularity contest and only a few will profit, I have a really bad feeling about it :(

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            June 9, 2019 5:06 PM

            I could see an evolution where a game is offered full price for a set amount of time before going to a streaming service. There are always a certain amount of fans that would go full price to own it sooner. Look at how LoF2 sold over 50k units in one week, and those guys give their games away for free on every platform except Nintendo.

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            June 9, 2019 6:49 PM

            Yeah, it hasn't sat well with me either. One of those "if it seems to good to be true" deals.

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      June 9, 2019 1:35 PM

      Exodus on game pass is crazy

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      June 9, 2019 1:35 PM

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      June 9, 2019 1:35 PM

      No need for an Xbox when you can play all of their exclusives on PC

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        June 9, 2019 1:37 PM

        It's why I don't have one, yeah. But they seem okay with that.

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        June 9, 2019 1:37 PM

        And yet you are still paying MS. I think they win.

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          June 9, 2019 1:40 PM

          Not yet! Still no exclusives I care about playing.

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      June 9, 2019 1:36 PM

      So is this Gamepass for PC not the same as Gamepass Ultimate, or another sub?

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      June 9, 2019 1:37 PM

      UPDATE: Still thinking about how dreamy Keanu is.

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      June 9, 2019 1:38 PM

      Annnnnd Microsoft store is down :D

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      June 9, 2019 1:38 PM

      My issue with Game Pass for PC is that it's almost all shooters from what I see.

      Ultimate eh? Price? What for it.

      $14.99 ugh.. sold

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      June 9, 2019 1:38 PM

      omfg is this a new flight simulator with satellite data?!!!!

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        June 9, 2019 1:39 PM

        YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          June 9, 2019 1:40 PM

          I hope it's better than Microsoft Flight

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      June 9, 2019 1:38 PM

      There it is! $15 for everything! Hell yes!

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      June 9, 2019 1:39 PM

      New Flight Simulator????

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        June 9, 2019 1:39 PM

        oh hell yes.. I'm totally on this one. Looks amazing.

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        June 9, 2019 1:39 PM

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        June 9, 2019 1:40 PM

        looks amazing, never really one for flight sims but i think id have to get it for the graphics alone

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        June 9, 2019 1:41 PM

        I usually don't play flight sims, but if you can play that in VR that would be amazing. Crazy level of details.

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        June 9, 2019 1:43 PM

        No mention of cloud backend, but that would make some sense. Still, probably THE most accurate consumer flight sim ever.

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      June 9, 2019 1:39 PM

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      June 9, 2019 1:40 PM

      Wait, are they seriously doing a new MS Flight Simulator?

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        June 9, 2019 1:40 PM

        Hah it is, nice. Looks really good.

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      June 9, 2019 1:40 PM

      ahahaha Sony was smart to sit down for this one.

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      June 9, 2019 1:40 PM

      Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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      June 9, 2019 1:40 PM

      Holy shit flight simulator looks nice

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      June 9, 2019 1:40 PM

      Khan!

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      June 9, 2019 1:40 PM

      Wow we just can't get AOE rest, can we?

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      June 9, 2019 1:41 PM

      Cool. Flight Simulator, why not? Looks neat!

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      June 9, 2019 1:41 PM

      Dayum flight simulator looks dope.

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      June 9, 2019 1:41 PM

      Fallout Tactics 2?

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      June 9, 2019 1:43 PM

      Finally a game that takes place in Colorado.

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      June 9, 2019 1:43 PM

      Wasteland 3 trailer, looks good!

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      June 9, 2019 1:43 PM

      double fine bought by ms?

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      June 9, 2019 1:43 PM

      Dude needs to hock that loogie out ASAP.

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      June 9, 2019 1:43 PM

      Doublefine has been assimilated.

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      June 9, 2019 1:43 PM

      Double Fine hasn't made a good game in forever and this is going to upset some FIG people, probably.

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        June 9, 2019 1:44 PM

        what's a FIG people

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          June 9, 2019 1:45 PM

          Double Fine's homegrown crowd funding platform.

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            June 9, 2019 1:45 PM

            Where WL3 was crowdfunded ... I’m a shareholder

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          June 9, 2019 1:45 PM

          fig is a crowdfunding platform

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        June 9, 2019 1:44 PM

        They make the perfect games for Gamepass though.

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        June 9, 2019 1:45 PM

        Maybe not always good on the balance, but interesting and creative. I'm glad they're around.

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        June 9, 2019 1:45 PM

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        June 9, 2019 1:57 PM

        Remembrer that right now we know DF got Starbreeze to help publish for P2 but now Starbreeze is in trouble. I bet MS is picking up the publishing rights now.

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      June 9, 2019 1:44 PM

      Double Fine is now part of MS! Wow

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      June 9, 2019 1:44 PM

      Not sure I'm happy about MS buying DF. But, let's see what they announce.

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      June 9, 2019 1:44 PM

      yay i guess?

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      June 9, 2019 1:44 PM

      interesting that both of one of the OG kickstarter companies are now owned by microsoft

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        June 9, 2019 1:46 PM

        Inxile rumor : MS doubled the WL3 budget

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      June 9, 2019 1:44 PM

      Damn. Still haven't finished the first Psychonauts.

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      June 9, 2019 1:45 PM

      Another Psychonauts shirt.

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      June 9, 2019 1:47 PM

      Lego Star wars all 9 movies!!!! Nice!

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      June 9, 2019 1:47 PM

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        June 9, 2019 1:48 PM

        At least it's an action RPG instead of another fighter.

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          June 9, 2019 1:49 PM

          FighterZ was great. The rest of em, yeah.

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      June 9, 2019 1:48 PM

      All of these games they're announcing say they'll be available on Game Pass so far I think. That's huge.

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        June 9, 2019 1:49 PM

        Yeah that’s pretty significant.

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        June 9, 2019 1:51 PM

        I think MS deserves more credit for things like gamepass it's very pro-consumer.

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      June 9, 2019 1:50 PM

      A new insane Dragon Ball Z game full 3D : Project Z. Some crazy new game, massive narrative type game.

      Battletoads - E3 2019 - Gameplay Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyJI_uFRZSY

      Microsoft Flight Simulator - E3 2019 - Announce Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReDDgFfWlS4

      Age of Empires II DE - E3 2019 - Gameplay Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOgBVR21pWg

      Wasteland 3 - E3 2019 - Official Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCXdCjpBVA8

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      June 9, 2019 1:50 PM

      This 12 minutes game looks fucked up.

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        June 9, 2019 1:50 PM

        Groundhog Day 2

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        June 9, 2019 1:51 PM

        Original at least.

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        June 9, 2019 1:51 PM

        Yes it does, and I'm intrigued as hell by it.

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        June 9, 2019 1:52 PM

        Yup. Very much has my interest.

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        June 9, 2019 1:54 PM

        most interesting thing shown so far other than the obvious

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      June 9, 2019 1:50 PM

      12 is my favorite #

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      June 9, 2019 1:51 PM

      Deer Simulator 2020 got weird

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      June 9, 2019 1:52 PM

      I want an Xbox now.

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      June 9, 2019 1:52 PM

      we have reached peak indie game with bambi city simulator

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      June 9, 2019 1:52 PM

      Way To The Woods: rad Deer 3D adventure game, looks amazing!

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      June 9, 2019 1:53 PM

      OMG!!! Gears 5!!!!!!!! .... this is stupid

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      June 9, 2019 1:53 PM

      lol why are they trying to be artistic with Gears of War

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      June 9, 2019 1:53 PM

      that was probably the most pretentious trailer ever made

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      June 9, 2019 1:54 PM

      I thought gears 5 already came out. Lol

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      June 9, 2019 1:55 PM

      Gears 5 song was "When we all fall asleep, where do we go?" by Billie Eilish.

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        June 9, 2019 1:56 PM

        no it's not. It's bury a friend

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          June 9, 2019 1:57 PM

          wtf242 is absolutely right, and I suck at verifying lyric websites.

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      June 9, 2019 1:55 PM

      Gears 5, perfect piss break.

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      June 9, 2019 1:55 PM

      Is Gears 5 free with Gamepass ultimate or just early play?

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        June 9, 2019 1:56 PM

        Microsoft said all their titles will be on the pass, so should just be early play.

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      June 9, 2019 1:55 PM

      I'M SO BORED OF GEARS GAMES

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      June 9, 2019 1:55 PM

      lol what the hell is going on

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        June 9, 2019 1:57 PM

        Lil John + Ozzy mashup. really? lol what the fuck

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      June 9, 2019 1:55 PM

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      June 9, 2019 1:56 PM

      From a technical theatre perspective? This segment is absolutely fucking amazing.

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      June 9, 2019 1:57 PM

      I have no idea where this is going.

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      June 9, 2019 1:57 PM

      lol

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      June 9, 2019 1:58 PM

      this is so fucking dumb and bad

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        June 9, 2019 1:58 PM

        Just when i thought i couldn't get any less excited at gears

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      June 9, 2019 1:58 PM

      this is so fucking corny

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      June 9, 2019 1:58 PM

      Ozzy must be rolling in his grave, He isn't dead yet but he is there rolling.

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      June 9, 2019 1:58 PM

      Gears 5 Sep 15th!!!!!!!! release date. What is going on????????? I hyped for the game but htey are trying too hard LOL :) , all good it's just a trailer LOL

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      June 9, 2019 1:58 PM

      lmao this trailer is designed for the urban youth

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      June 9, 2019 1:58 PM

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      June 9, 2019 1:58 PM

      That Gears stuff looks visually stunning but otherwise that looks like shit.

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        June 9, 2019 2:02 PM

        LOL , might help if they actually play the real game and stop with the CG trailers LOL :)

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      June 9, 2019 2:00 PM

      WHAT!?!?!

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        June 9, 2019 2:00 PM

        I haven't played the last 2 gears games, but how does Terminator fit in?

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      June 9, 2019 2:00 PM

      I love me some cross promotion

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      June 9, 2019 2:00 PM

      Jesus Christ just play and show us the real game.

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      June 9, 2019 2:01 PM

      I agree with the GB guys, they should have showed something single player.

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      June 9, 2019 2:01 PM

      Xbox e3 2019:

      RETURN OF THE TIE-IN

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      June 9, 2019 2:01 PM

      Fucking lol.

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      June 9, 2019 2:01 PM

      Ooooooh. Elite update. I'm...probably doing that.

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        June 9, 2019 2:02 PM

        Yeah, that looks solid. Profiles, tweakable tension and trigger throw.

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      June 9, 2019 2:02 PM

      that controller has the geek in my excited actually

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      June 9, 2019 2:02 PM

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        June 9, 2019 2:03 PM

        Xbox does on a system level, and the PC software can do the same.

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        June 9, 2019 6:35 PM

        Like Conan said, using the official software on PC or XBox just lets you remap them to the face buttons and I believe the bumpers and start/select.

        However, using third party software on PC will enable you to remap them to just about anything, super handy. I use Rewasd and it's pretty great.

        http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=38242083

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      June 9, 2019 2:02 PM

      Well, at the start of the day I wasn't saying I needed a new controller, but um, I need a new controller.

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        June 9, 2019 2:04 PM

        they lied about being able to preorder it right now :(

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      June 9, 2019 2:02 PM

      crap, i hope the new elite can still take AA's but I doubt it :(

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      June 9, 2019 2:02 PM

      GODDAMMIT I JUST GOT MY ELITE CONTROLLER.

      Now I need that one :(

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      June 9, 2019 2:03 PM

      HASHAHAH FUCKING AIDEN!!! who the fuck is gonna play a game with a character named Aiden?! LOL

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        June 9, 2019 2:06 PM

        LOL when has a character name ever matter in any video game? I have never cared ever, the name could be Captain Jumbo Penis for all I care :)

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        June 9, 2019 2:07 PM

        Isn't the Watchdogs character named that?

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          June 9, 2019 2:07 PM

          Yes! Aiden! Aiden Can you imagine?! Ahhh. I played through the entire game and had to listen to that name being said.

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            June 9, 2019 2:08 PM

            Then apparently you played a game with a character named that thus answering your original question.

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              June 9, 2019 2:10 PM

              It was a disaster. I'm being hyperbolic, but the character's name was really Aiden. I gave it the benefit of the doubt, but i won't do it agani.

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      June 9, 2019 2:03 PM

      OMG!!!! Dying Light 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hyped out of my mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man this looks amazing! Seems like Cyberpunk 2077 quality, gonna be good!

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        June 9, 2019 2:05 PM

        I am really excited about this one given the amount of love they have given DL1 since it was launched. I imaging it should be a very fined melee and parkour experience.

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          June 9, 2019 4:42 PM

          Same, I think it's going to be insane!!! Dying Light 1 is amazing, they going to turn it up to 1000!

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      June 9, 2019 2:04 PM

      That is Awesome.

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      June 9, 2019 2:04 PM

      LMAO.. Lego Forza..

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      June 9, 2019 2:05 PM

      AHAHHAA THIS IS AWESOME

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      June 9, 2019 2:05 PM

      Never would have expected Lego Forza

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        June 9, 2019 2:06 PM

        Yeah, MS is definitely winning in "Never would have predicted that" so far.

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      June 9, 2019 2:06 PM

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        June 9, 2019 2:07 PM

        They could have spent a few more minutes drawing attention to it; especially considering how much it probably cost to get it on stage.

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      June 9, 2019 2:07 PM

      This has zero appeal for me. I now regret pre-paying for all the expansions. Hot wheels was cool because it was all the ramps and a cool world to play around in with regular cars. This... I could care less.

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        June 9, 2019 2:15 PM

        Maybe it will be fun, though I can't say it appeals to me.

        I really liked FH4 but barely put any time into the first expansion. I was hoping for something more grounded and real again after Fortune Island & Hot Wheels before it, bummer.

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      June 9, 2019 2:07 PM

      Wait, launches this week? I haven't heard a single whisper about it. Holy shit.

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      June 9, 2019 2:08 PM

      I just do not get funco pops.

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        June 9, 2019 2:10 PM

        Well, Funko Pops and this online JRPG arent doing ot for me, but I bet SOMEONE is exctied about it.

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      June 9, 2019 2:08 PM

      Forza Horizon 4 LEGO Speed Champions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cASCytz8o9g

      Gears 5 - E3 2019 - Escape Announce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErqsgG0HRR8

      OMG new State Of Decay 2 add on!!!

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      June 9, 2019 2:08 PM

      a game where you can choose to play as the old white man or young black female?

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      June 9, 2019 2:10 PM

      State of Decay 2 : Heart Land expansion looks amazing! Another world premier OMG!!!!!!! is this Xenoblade Chronicles X!!!!!!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 2:10 PM

      Guess Phantasy Star online is what Jeff Gerstmann was hyped about.

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        June 9, 2019 2:12 PM

        Not judging from what he's saying.

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        June 9, 2019 2:12 PM

        He's more confused than anything (watching their coverage currently heh)

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      June 9, 2019 2:12 PM

      Wow phantasy star online. I played the shit out of that on Dreamcast.

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      June 9, 2019 2:12 PM

      The Elite Series 2 controller is $180!!!

      https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/1137827020191047680?s=19

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      June 9, 2019 2:12 PM

      No Xenoblade Chronicles X :( , as if right LOL. So Phantasy Star Online 2, hmmm cool I guess.

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      June 9, 2019 2:13 PM

      New game: Cross Fire X : looks like it could be epic!!!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 2:13 PM

      I never heard of Crossfire X. Is that an Asia only thing?

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      June 9, 2019 2:13 PM

      Who? What? Uh OK?

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      June 9, 2019 2:14 PM

      Can you shoot a missile into a building like that? Seems wrong.

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      June 9, 2019 2:14 PM

      at first i thought we were gonna get more smilebit games :(

      who the fuck is smilegate?!

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      June 9, 2019 2:14 PM

      new Tales game? ok

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      June 9, 2019 2:14 PM

      What on earth is this

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      June 9, 2019 2:16 PM

      Hope Bandai continues their trend of putting the Tales series on PC. New one looks good.

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      June 9, 2019 2:16 PM

      is this a new tales of vesperia game?

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      June 9, 2019 2:16 PM

      Awesome, Cross Fire X looks dope. Another world primer! OMG some sort of insane open world RPG!!!!!! Oh shit it is the new Tales of Arise that got leaked looks amazing!!!!!!!

      State of Decay Heartland - E3 2019 - Announce Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhbhXNNxW7s

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        June 9, 2019 2:17 PM

        It doesn't look like anything. Just generic prerendered nonsense.

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          June 9, 2019 2:18 PM

          Yeah that was CGI macho nothingness.

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          June 9, 2019 2:19 PM

          I got massive Metal Gear vibes so I am hyped, but yeah I knwo what you mean I rather they show the actual game. The videos for Gears 5 was useless, but I know it owns.

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      June 9, 2019 2:16 PM

      I WILL PLAY A NEW TALES GAME

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      June 9, 2019 2:17 PM

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      June 9, 2019 2:18 PM

      Borderlands 3 is going to be insane! I am already pre-ordered on my PC!!! Let's GO!

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      June 9, 2019 2:18 PM

      Where's the M-rated stream?

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      June 9, 2019 2:18 PM

      e3: gore good, middle finger offensive

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      June 9, 2019 2:18 PM

      NEW FROM GAME!!!#@%$@!%#@

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        June 9, 2019 2:21 PM

        no release estimate at all... 2021 :(

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          June 9, 2019 2:21 PM

          or holiday 2020 earliest i would bet

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      June 9, 2019 2:19 PM

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      June 9, 2019 2:19 PM

      Elden Ring pls

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        June 9, 2019 2:21 PM

        What type of game is it?

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          June 9, 2019 2:23 PM

          dunno. all the leaks said was open world and horse riding. most assume FROM / Souls-style combat too.

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        June 9, 2019 2:22 PM

        Elden Ring gameplay pls

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      June 9, 2019 2:19 PM

      awwhh yeah here we go!!

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      June 9, 2019 2:20 PM

      Hell yeah, BL2 Lilith DLC.!

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      June 9, 2019 2:20 PM

      Here we go Boyz!!!!! FromSoftware’s new game is called Elden Ring!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      June 9, 2019 2:20 PM

      sign me the fuck up

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      June 9, 2019 2:21 PM

      You had me at From. But this looks awesome.

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      June 9, 2019 2:22 PM

      Halo Infinite gonna wrap up

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      June 9, 2019 2:22 PM

      CrossfireX - E3 2019 - Announce Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq-wlu2pwdw

      Say no to the cloud :(

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      June 9, 2019 2:22 PM

      It's kind of crazy that one of the most played games (by some metric) is one most of us have never heard of

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-played_video_games_by_player_count

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        June 9, 2019 2:23 PM

        Not really; the shack has good representation in the Americas and Europe, but hardly any in Asia aside from a handful of transplants.

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        June 9, 2019 2:23 PM

        China. and it's insanely overrun by hackers.

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      June 9, 2019 2:23 PM

      Here it comes.. "Hold on to your butts."

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        June 9, 2019 2:26 PM

        That SSD bit is going to be really interesting. Designing the console to stream content from storage, at the OS level. Interesting.

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      June 9, 2019 2:23 PM

      Yep. Stadia is fucked.

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      June 9, 2019 2:23 PM

      WTF why did they not show Gears 5 in motion like the real game? What about Halo Infinite? What about Fable 4?

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        June 9, 2019 2:24 PM

        Maybe Halo and Fable are next box.

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          June 9, 2019 2:29 PM

          I think you right they just, they just said it!!!!!!!!!!

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        June 9, 2019 2:25 PM

        They aren’t done dude. Chill.

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        June 9, 2019 2:27 PM

        We aren’t done yet? Unless you’re ahead somehow. Don’t blow your load right away

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      June 9, 2019 2:24 PM

      i definitely will not be buying an xbox ever again as long as all their games are also on the ps4 or PC. there's no reason to if you have a PC

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        June 9, 2019 2:25 PM

        I think they are perfectly OK with that.

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          June 9, 2019 2:27 PM

          Exactly people need to get over it, PC and XBOX are the same and that's a GOOD thing.

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        June 9, 2019 2:27 PM

        As long as you're buying them on PC they're totally fine with that.

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        June 9, 2019 2:28 PM

        makes sense

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        June 9, 2019 2:29 PM

        Cool.

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        June 9, 2019 2:30 PM

        You don’t need Windows to use Office, they’re happy selling 365 subs for people on Macs and iOS. Same deal here

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        June 9, 2019 2:30 PM

        So then thank MS for saving you money and that they are such an epic company.

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          June 9, 2019 2:34 PM

          i want them to be successful. I am a shareholder. just saying i won't be buying this new console

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            June 9, 2019 2:36 PM

            They will be successful. They seem to be following the rest of the companies mantra. Get your services EVERYWHERE and you can rule the world. Trying to fight with exclusivity doesn't do anyone any good.

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            June 9, 2019 2:40 PM

            So you'll be able to play with people who only have the console. They're helping everyone.

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            June 9, 2019 2:44 PM

            They are successful as far as I am concerned. That is cool, well you can buy more games then!

            I just don't understand why some gamers and people in general don't understand that a Windows PC is a customizeable version of an Xbox and the regular Xbox is the pre made affordable version for the masses. To me that concept is very simple yet it seems that most think a PC and a Xbox are from two different companies and have nothing to do with each other.

            Anyways I am very grateful for MS not looking out PC's + their Xbox games it really is amazing and makes sense as far as I am concerned.

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              June 9, 2019 2:48 PM

              Yep. If it was more middle class scenario the new Xbox would be a good deal for say a system parent and kids so they can game together on.

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            June 9, 2019 2:48 PM

            Will your PC do 8k or 4k at 60+ for with just plug and play? There are a lot of advantages to console that dealing with PC is sometimes a headache. But I play on consoles and PC.

            I'm not about to drop 1k+ on a monitor I'll just play on my tv

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            June 9, 2019 3:37 PM

            And that's perfectly normal and probably expected. I think the xbox console itself is marketed to people who aren't already PC gamers at this point.

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        June 9, 2019 2:37 PM

        I have no problem with it for the fact that I can choose where and when I want to play. On the big screen on the couch, fire up the Xbox or sit at the desk and use the PC. It's a valid choice for a lot of people, including the majority that don't have beefy rigs to play on PC. But that is the beauty here, Microsoft is giving gamers a choice now.

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        June 9, 2019 2:39 PM

        It would be interesting to see what an equivalent level PC is to Scarlett.

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        June 9, 2019 3:36 PM

        I think with more Keyboard & Mouse support, higher resolutions w/ higher frame rates, and variable frame rate support, this could still be a killer gaming box for desktop gaming.

        But of course MS needs to pressure more devs to support KB+M on Xbox

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      June 9, 2019 2:25 PM

      Sitting there in the elevator at the fake loading screen

      SHADE

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      June 9, 2019 2:26 PM

      Next Xbox will be called Xbox PC. Heard it here first.

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      June 9, 2019 2:26 PM

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      June 9, 2019 2:26 PM

      This will be a beast. 4x Xbox One X, SSD, 8K, love it. Love the positioning

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        June 9, 2019 2:28 PM

        Same as Sony so far 120fps, SSD, Zen 2, Navi...

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      June 9, 2019 2:26 PM

      I'm glad to see consoles doing variable refresh rate and high refresh rates. Probably more than the rest.

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      June 9, 2019 2:27 PM

      So next christmas is the next xbox.

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      June 9, 2019 2:28 PM

      Xbox Two aka Project Scarlet Holiday 2020! It's going to be INSANE!!!!!!!! I heart MS \m/

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      June 9, 2019 2:30 PM

      Man, everything about the physics/weight/interaction with items in this Halo trailer looks really wrong

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      June 9, 2019 2:31 PM

      I just can't give a fuck about halo in 2020. Excited for the new box though

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        June 9, 2019 2:32 PM

        Strong agree. Halo is like watching Dude Where's My Car 7 at this point

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          June 9, 2019 2:32 PM

          Space marine shit is so done. It's so. Fucking. Done

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          June 9, 2019 2:36 PM

          Man, I could really have gone for a second Dude Where's My Car. That was way better than it should have been.

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          June 9, 2019 2:37 PM

          big jump from 1 to 7 maybe you were thinking of another movie?

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        June 9, 2019 2:34 PM

        Yep

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        June 9, 2019 2:35 PM

        i dunno, the classic music + chief really gets me in the nostalgia feels

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        June 9, 2019 2:35 PM

        I can, given we're likely getting it on PC with mouse and keyboard.

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        June 9, 2019 2:37 PM

        Ya, that teaser did nothing for me. You'd think they would at least say it's in-game footage to try to hype what the system should be able to do.

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          June 9, 2019 2:38 PM

          Er... pretty sure they did say that.

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            June 9, 2019 2:38 PM

            Ah, I musta been looking at chatty when they did

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          June 9, 2019 2:38 PM

          It did say in-engine.

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      June 9, 2019 2:32 PM

      So is Master Chief a robot or something?

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      June 9, 2019 2:34 PM

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      June 9, 2019 2:35 PM

      Did they have the Gears Xcom like game?

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      June 9, 2019 2:35 PM

      Halo Infinite is L|F3

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      June 9, 2019 2:36 PM

      Not a whole lot in that video, but I’m fucking excited for halo. If you’re not into it that’s understandable, but it’ll be fun regardless.

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      June 9, 2019 2:36 PM

      So glad to have the old suit design back.

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        June 9, 2019 2:47 PM

        Yeah, someone in the art department went mad with Halo 4/5.

        I like to blame this when new management or people come in and decide to change things up because they want to make it theirs. Like when a new manager renames a department or program and makes. A big deal about it.

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      June 9, 2019 2:39 PM

      Well, I didn't feel like it was a "mic drop" moment type of show, but it was a pretty amazing tempo from beginning to end with no let downs for me personally. One of their bests as well.

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      June 9, 2019 2:39 PM

      Overall, not as good as last year. Disappointed no Fable. I also don't understand why they didn't go into a bit more detail about xCloud and how it works. I know they have announced details elsewhere. Halo trailer was neat, but last year was better because sometimes less it more.

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        June 9, 2019 2:40 PM

        Apparently a lot more stuff is being shown in depth during Mondays Inside Xbox.

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          June 9, 2019 2:44 PM

          I'll check that out. But right now Google did a better job of communicating about their streaming game service than MS did.

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        June 9, 2019 2:40 PM

        not sure how you can say its worse, 60 games if fucking epic.

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          June 9, 2019 2:41 PM

          And like half on game pass at launch too. Wow.

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        June 9, 2019 2:40 PM

        Same. Ori was the highlight for me, and wonderful as that game is, that’s still not a great sign for the show overall.

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        June 9, 2019 2:41 PM

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        June 9, 2019 2:41 PM

        Worse? Dude, they announced so much for a platform that they also announced it's replacement for. Several unexpected announcements too.

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          June 9, 2019 2:46 PM

          It started off well and ramped up, but everything post Keanu/Cyberpunk felt flat. This was a year to hit a home run and it seems like MS decided to pull back since Sony wasn't there. They chose to hold serve instead.

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            June 9, 2019 2:48 PM

            I'm thinking something happened to your feed after that announcement then.

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      June 9, 2019 2:41 PM

      did they say anything about MCC (specifically Reach)?

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        June 9, 2019 2:42 PM

        Reach is coming by August. No word on the other games yet - but talk is they want it all out by EOY

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        June 9, 2019 2:43 PM

        Quick bit about it on the pc game pass.

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      June 9, 2019 2:43 PM

      Some unusual stuff in there this year. Nice to see some diversity to the upcoming games especially for younger kids.

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      June 9, 2019 2:46 PM

      game pass sounds like a great deal, if i had an xbone. a PS version would be insta sub for me

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      June 9, 2019 2:48 PM

      Halo Infinite - E3 2019 - Discover Hope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtgzKBrU1GY

      Xbox Project Scarlett - E3 2019 - Reveal Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ktN4bycj9s

      All the video can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/user/xbox/videos

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      June 9, 2019 2:48 PM

      Remakes and Sequels. Hope you like 'em; don't care if you don't, Season Passes already on the way.

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        June 9, 2019 2:53 PM

        Game prices should be a higher than they are due to inflation and other increased costs since the last time they jumped to $60 in 2005 when the 360 came out (and that was initially only for third party games).

        Now they can keep the price the same but charge more for the rest of the content later. Make the upfront cost lower.

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          June 9, 2019 2:58 PM

          You're NEEEEEEVER gonna sell me on pre-planned/pre-budgeted/pre-staff-allocated DLC. WE MIGHT NOT WANT THE GAME TO BEGIN WITH.

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      June 9, 2019 2:55 PM

      Gamepass for pc is up. A lot of good games up already, you have to download an app, which requires your windows to update. We will see how this turns out.

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        June 9, 2019 3:00 PM

        I assume this is a Windows Store app and will force me to sign into the store, which in turn logs be out of my local Win acct, and logs me into an MS account? No thanks. I don't even use the Xbox app on my Win10 machines because it logged me into an MS account on the PC.

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          June 9, 2019 3:01 PM

          Yes, it is a Win Store App.

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          June 9, 2019 3:02 PM

          How else were you expecting to use it? Every subscription/app does that. You can log out of it. Same way you can with netflix and co.

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            June 9, 2019 3:03 PM

            Let me log into just the store or just the app. I don't want to use an MS acct to log into my PCs. I also want that to be local.

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              June 9, 2019 3:04 PM

              well you aren't going to get that, ever. so either get over it or accept this will never be for you.

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                June 9, 2019 3:14 PM

                You can have it literally right now. It already does it.

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              June 9, 2019 3:09 PM

              Pretty sure you can do exactly that.

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              June 9, 2019 3:12 PM

              You can do just that if I'm not mistaken. I can log out of all the assorted apps like store/smartglass/xbox etc?

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              June 9, 2019 3:13 PM

              That's exactly what I do. It's fine.

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              June 9, 2019 3:15 PM

              Pretty sure you can log into an MS account just for the app.

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              June 9, 2019 4:21 PM

              Well it appears there have been some changes. The last time I tried this there was no option to only log into apps. When I tried it just now it did work and gave me the option to only login to MS apps and not use the MS acct to log into my PC. Thanks to everyone for pointing this out.

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                June 9, 2019 4:35 PM

                I think until just now I never even had logged in with my ms account. I just changed it from local admin,then logged in with the ms account and then changed it back to local with no problem.

                I think the only thing that happens is that it adds your registration to your ms account, then removes your windows activation from your account if you go local.

                Instead it mentions that you are activated per digital license.

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                June 9, 2019 4:59 PM

                You have literally been able to do it since Windows 10 launch; I have. They may have made it more obvious.

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                June 9, 2019 5:33 PM

                It's always been an option just that now it's an easier to discover option than before.

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                  June 9, 2019 9:26 PM

                  In his defense it used to be a tiny tiny link under a big giant button

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      June 9, 2019 2:57 PM

      Done watching. My reaction: slightly disappointed

      But I was probably expecting too much out of Microsoft. It was a fine show. They just didn't show what I was hoping for.

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        June 9, 2019 3:01 PM

        Agreed. I think no Fable was a bit of a let down. But seeing a Forza Horizon 4 expansion that I have absolutely zero interest it was pretty deflating. The first expansion was super boring. I was hoping for another Blizzard Mountain type expansion. Lego does nothing for me.

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          June 9, 2019 3:11 PM

          They barely talked about XCloud and what they did say was confusing. Console streaming? Turn your Xbox into an XCloud server?

          Why bother with console streaming if you already spent the money to own a console? Next gen games on current gen hardware? But you didn't talk about any next gen games.

          Why would I want to turn my Xbox console into a (private?) XCloud server? Is it just so that I can keep playing my home game from a hotel? From my office at work? Why is my individual Xbox being used for that if I could instead stream from a (presumably closer) XCloud server? Regardless, isn't it that a niche use-case?

          They didn't (really) talk about Scarlet's specs. They talked about load times without anything definitive other than confirming SSDs and GDDR6. 4x the power of XBox 1X ? What does that mean? Guess I'll have to wait for the Digital Foundry video to break it down...

          I miss the real meaty, spec heavy presentations we could expect to get in generations past.

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            June 9, 2019 3:14 PM

            no reason to talk specs this year - they will do that next year. and things will change.

            and you need hardware to stream too on your TV. Google is using a Chromecast. and it allows you to buy a game like halo infinite and stream other games. It makes perfect sense.

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              June 9, 2019 3:18 PM

              What if I don't want to buy an Xbox but I want to play Xbox games ... on a 2014 iMac with Win10?

              They didn't bring that solution. You need a bangin' ThatsBriskBaby-class PC fir Gamepass to be any useful.

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                June 9, 2019 3:22 PM

                any windows 10 device will be able to download the xcloud app. not sure why hardware matters. and no, you can do xCloud on a surface tablet easily.

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                  June 9, 2019 3:24 PM

                  You're probably not wrong but they didn't say that. They didn't talk about ANY of that shit. I was expecting a Stadia-size breakdown on why Microsoft's streaming solution is gonna be awesome.

                  Instead, we got a paragraph.

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                    June 9, 2019 3:25 PM

                    Also, where is this app? Can I download it today? How much does the streaming service cost? What can I play?


                    So many fucking questions... 🤦‍♂️

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                June 9, 2019 3:27 PM

                It's not that bangin' ...

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        June 9, 2019 3:05 PM

        they showed so many good games but it's obvious the only xbox next game they showed was halo infinite. with sony not there, it was a smart move.

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          June 9, 2019 3:15 PM

          A smart move?

          They had a chance to go for the jugular and be able to say shit without fear of response for once.

          I was expecting a Spring/Summer 2020 release for Scarlet and a true Stadia response by announcing PC streaming. Something that Sony won't have ready by e³next year.

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            June 9, 2019 3:18 PM

            No one is going to buy xbox one hardware today if they own a PS4. we know that. MS knows that. There is no jugular to go for.

            xCloud is coming to PC. That was confirmed by Phil before. But they showed 60 games and had < 5 minutes for xCloud. eh

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            June 9, 2019 3:29 PM

            There's at least 2 more events they can announce things at this year.

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              June 9, 2019 3:35 PM

              I don't understand Sony's tactic of pre-announcing PS5 and not following it up with more info. I mean, I guess we're going to get a ton of news on both PS5 and Scarlett @ E3 2020. But, at least MS did this show in a way to try to communicate that it's okay to still buy an S/X right now and still have new games to play for a while. I mean, I'm tempted to pick up an X this holiday.

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                June 9, 2019 3:36 PM

                they had to get in front of the scarlett announcement, it's not a good idea to let MS dominate that convo

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                  June 9, 2019 3:42 PM

                  Well, ya, there's that. But, to not even focus on games? I just assumed they would do a strong 1st party game focus direct thing. But, nope.

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                    June 9, 2019 4:55 PM

                    They're in this awkward cycle where most of their studios are finishing late gen PS4 games or only started to begin work on PS5 games for the launch window that's probably 1-2 years after PS5 comes out.

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          June 9, 2019 4:40 PM

          I 100% agree with this, Sony is building their army for 2020 & their PS5 release so this is War. The more and more I think about it the more I think they had a perfect show(minus those 2 weird Gears 5 videos, I would of shown real gameplay and called it a day). Had they shown more of their cards it would allow Sony to counter and prepare for 2020.

          One thing is for sure, the 2020 E3 may go down in the books as "the E3 of all E3's" and will be pure insanity!!! My body is not ready :( .... yet.

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      June 9, 2019 2:58 PM

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      June 9, 2019 3:00 PM

      So how does one sign up for Xbox Game Pass for PC?
      Nothing is showing up in the Microsoft Store App.

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      June 9, 2019 3:06 PM

      Anyone actually get the new Xbox (beta) app to work with the new sub? It just prompts me to buy a sub, which I already have (grabbed the Gamepass Ultimate).

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        June 9, 2019 3:10 PM

        Seems like their services may be a little stressed at the moment. I can't even get the store page to load to get the Xbox Beta app

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          June 9, 2019 3:11 PM

          It finally is working for me, but yeah, seems laggy or something. Installing Void Bastards for PC as I type this.

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            June 9, 2019 3:14 PM

            Yeah just finally got it installed and got the same message as you. I just clicked past it and now I'm installing games.

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      June 9, 2019 3:09 PM

      In general that was a solid show minus the weirdness with Gears 5 LOL. I really think they should of shown/played Gears 5(at the least) and also Halo Infinite and Fable 4(flash the logo at least). Some might say "so WTF is up with that valcan_s?" I think it all boils down to Project Scarlett launches next year so they need some amazing games to sell that and make people loose their minds for E3 2020. So really it makes sense why they did not show more or the heavy hitters, well except for Gears 5 that was a mistake plain and simple.

      * Here is the whole conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeYQ-kPF0iQ

      All the game traielrs: https://www.youtube.com/user/xbox/videos

      See you guys in the evening, have an epic rest of your day! \m/ :) \m/

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        June 9, 2019 3:16 PM

        no reason to show Fable if its not a 2020 game. and they just said Gears 5 Campaign preview coming in August/ September. Why blow your wad when you don't have too. Ya'll expecting way too much

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          June 9, 2019 4:28 PM

          I agree with you but you have to understand I am a gamer and a Dev, this is just how it is no one is ever satisfied and we always want more.

          Having said that I am 100% cool how it went down(the show owned), and honestly the Project Scarlett + 2020 release date alone was enough for me and blew me away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ktN4bycj9s

          Most of use want to see someone play the video games with a controller so I think that was sort of why some wanted more(my self included), the thing is they had truck loads of stuff to get through in two hours so I don't blame them. Would be rad if say tomorrow or when ever they have another show and they just played and preview a bunch of the games.

          Anyways like I said in another thread they got a new Console launch next year so they have to save stuff and get ready for that so I 100% get that(it's all good). LOL just think they could of done a Sony and not even shown up, so really no one should even complain about anything.

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      June 9, 2019 3:10 PM

      So, for real no Sony direct or anything like that? Totally skipping all media this week?

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      June 9, 2019 3:13 PM

      If this new gen would just let me use KB + Mouse as well as a PC then that may be the way to go

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      June 9, 2019 3:15 PM

      some confirmations - Halo 5 will play on all Xbox One hardware AND they will have backwards compatibility with original xbox on scarlet hardware

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      June 9, 2019 3:19 PM

      OH - Xcloud will allow you to stream games FROM YOUR XBOX or from their data center to other devices! not just on home network. WOW

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        June 9, 2019 3:21 PM

        Yea they said that you can use your console as a server.

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        June 9, 2019 3:25 PM

        That was a cool feature I'm probably never gonna use but its a nice touch.

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        June 9, 2019 3:32 PM

        And they alluded that Scarlett is going to push that further too.

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        June 9, 2019 3:32 PM

        and sounds like there will be ios and android clients for xcloud

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          June 9, 2019 3:41 PM

          Fingers crossed hard for a Switch client

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          June 9, 2019 4:32 PM

          Apple TV would then work with Xbox controller too, sweet

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        June 9, 2019 3:36 PM

        What would be the advantage of that outside of the LAN - and that functionality already exists

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        June 9, 2019 3:42 PM

        I’m not sure why he didn’t put more emphasis on that. My takeaway was that it’s in home stream but now across the Internet. It’s pretty smart because if you’re in a place where the Azure DC is far enough away to crest a problem then you can stream to a device from your local console.

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          June 9, 2019 3:44 PM

          I assume we are going to get a dedicated xcloud launch event with all the details

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        June 9, 2019 3:51 PM

        Yeah. This feels like the right way to get streaming off the ground.

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        June 9, 2019 4:04 PM

        That's big and they even emphasized it a bit during the scarlet video. I hope they will push things, maybe scarlet will be mesh aware and can co compute in the cloud or provide CDN services if the user agrees to it etc, maybe even earning points or so. Kind like the hotspot sharing you have today. Maybe I am reading to much in it.

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        June 9, 2019 4:30 PM

        That has been a thing for a while. I have streamed from my console to a hotel room before. There is nothing crazy about streaming outside your home network.

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        June 9, 2019 6:49 PM

        Why would you ever choose to stream from your Xbox instead of their services? I assume you would be avoiding some fee that they will charge for xCloud. Home upload speeds pale in comparison to Microsoft’s.

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        June 9, 2019 3:26 PM

        not surprised

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        June 9, 2019 3:28 PM

        Even the shitty offbrand "pro" controllers from razer and co cost a fortune, the elites are pretty premium but the quality/reliability needs to be proven before I would drop any dough on one.

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          June 9, 2019 3:33 PM

          Isn't the Shack opinion that they're legit?

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            June 9, 2019 3:36 PM

            They are legit but they also have some qa issues that shouldn’t be happening on premium device.

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            June 9, 2019 3:37 PM

            Yeah I can’t imagine what would make a game controller worth $129 or whatever but everyone who buys one says they’re basically sex. Like, not even in a “don’t want to admit this was a ripoff” way either, I figure for sure at least one person would buy one and say what a piece of shit since everything is the Worst. Thing. Ever. now but nope, apparently they’re the tits.

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              June 9, 2019 3:40 PM

              I had no interest until this week when people were talking up the paddles.

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      June 9, 2019 3:35 PM

      So, not to be That Guy but their Project Scarlett trailer looks a hell of a lot like their Project Scorpio trailer two years ago

      https://youtu.be/F1dRgWpGePs

      And correct me if I’m wrong but it goes on to be Xbox One X and delivers 4K gaming... same as Sony’s next entry, the PS4 Pro.

      Don’t get me wrong it’s a better system but at the end of the day it was just the next logical tech step.

      Any predictions on what they call Scarlett? Xbox One XS?

      I still think Microsoft is just going to iterate on names and not have a logical “Xbox Two” or some shit and Sony will do the PS5.

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        June 9, 2019 3:39 PM

        What were you expecting it to be?

        It's going to have a SSD and a next gen APU. It'll probably be significantly faster at loading levels but it's not going to be some magical thing that's going to play 8k 120fps games natively.

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          June 9, 2019 3:45 PM

          they specifically said 120fps and 8k in the video …

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            June 9, 2019 3:47 PM

            I wasn't really paying much attention to the console portion because I game on PC but surely they didn't say it was going to be native 8k AND 120fps at the same time. I don't even know if there's an HDMI spec that supports that.

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              June 9, 2019 3:51 PM

              Probably not native 8k. The 120fps thing will be interesting to see how that plays out. You're right about the spec. Plus the cable that will be needed, and tv to support it as well.

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            June 9, 2019 3:50 PM

            Not necessarily together or even for most games. The 360 and PS3 were 1080p systems but those were limited mostly to games like Critter Crunch, nearly everything ran at 720p or below. Adaptive scaling was pretty standard on current gen.

            8k is something it potentially can do but its always a balance between features, framerate, and resolution.

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            June 9, 2019 3:58 PM

            It sounded like "4k 120fps, 8k..." as in those were two settings.

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              June 9, 2019 3:59 PM

              It ain't going to do 4K @ 120 fps unless we're reverting to Xbox 360 graphics.

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                June 9, 2019 4:00 PM

                Considering the constant push for 16-bit era graphics, the market might be okay with that ? Lol j/k

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              June 9, 2019 4:02 PM

              they were separate convos in the video for sure

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                June 9, 2019 6:40 PM

                It was definitely the ability to output 8K and ability to have games play at 120hz. I bet they do 1440p@120.

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            June 9, 2019 4:31 PM

            probably 120fps @ 1080p or 8k @ 30fps

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          June 9, 2019 3:45 PM

          No I’m with you, I’m just remembering how let down people were when it turns out to be “like the other one but with better hardware”

          I guess I don’t get who the target is for the Apple-like video - the only people who watch these things already know that the next logical hardware stair step will have faster load times, more polys on the screen, etc.

          Really I’m amazed anyone does anything like this after the Nintendo Switch unveil video - here it is, here’s what it’s called, here’s what it looks like, here’s how it works, here’s how it enables social experiences, and you can buy it in six months along side the best Zelda game we’ve ever made. Boom. None of this “developers sitting in a dark room talking about a hypothetical game changer” mess

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        June 9, 2019 3:50 PM

        Xbox U

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        June 9, 2019 3:50 PM

        I was a little underwhelmed as well. They're saving the big stuff for E3 2020 I'm sure. But basically it's just x4 the power of the X with gddr6.
        That SSD unified ram architecture could be really big. They didn't quite explain in detail and didn't show how that translate. I'm expecting it means they're designing the platform (hardware and OS) to better support what is possible with open world games. Meaning, a dev can have more concurrent things happening within the world in different parts of the world because you can stream the game world constantly between ram and storage seamlessly.

        X4 increase and ray tracing are just tick-tock upgrades. The SSD/RAM thing was the only thing that sounded interesting.

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          June 9, 2019 3:52 PM

          It’ll be similar to the PS5 where load times are substantially improved. Loading an area in 2 seconds instead of 20 is a pretty awesome feature

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            June 9, 2019 3:57 PM

            Maybe. That "virtual ram" bit is what has me curious. No one is talking about that.

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              June 9, 2019 4:27 PM

              RAMDISK with an SSD on a systemwide basis is cool. I hope someone gets that going on PC

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          June 10, 2019 1:51 AM

          Interesting to see if they try and combine the cloud gaming and streaming as part of the main system. Could it be always onilne again thing happening.

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        June 9, 2019 4:18 PM

        I am not surprised really. The core hardware of the next gen Xbox is going to be damn similar to Sony’s.

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        June 9, 2019 4:23 PM

        the only thing i really wanted to hear them talk about with the new console was framerate and they did. Mission accomplished.

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          June 9, 2019 4:31 PM

          The thing that worries me is the ray tracing both consoles will have. Because depending on what feature set they have, it’s a quick way to take any game from 4K 60-120hz to 30-60, maybe even bumping down out of native 4K to run it.

          I mean it looks amazing but hardware just isn’t quite there yet for it

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            June 10, 2019 1:56 AM

            If you have dedicated hardware on the GPU for the ray tracing then it's not an issue, it just makes your card much more expensive as NVIDIA showed us. I think what MS has just shown us is each generation is going to be split on the CPU and they will update the GPU midway through.

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        June 9, 2019 4:24 PM

        MS said it was gonna be 4x the power of the 1x, I'd like to see how they determine that. Ain't now way they're putting out a 24 TFLOP console next year.

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          June 9, 2019 4:28 PM

          Is 24 teraflops that impossible?

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            June 9, 2019 4:39 PM

            Assuming amd hardware a Vega II is 14 teraflops. I’d consider that the highest possible we will see out of next gen consoles. Probably more like 10-12 teraflops for the graphics.

            My guess is the 4x number means they are targeting around a 4ghz processor and 10-12 teraflops for gpu. Which would make both about double what an xbox one x puts out. So in marketing speak, they say 4x because it’s 2x * 2x.

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            June 9, 2019 4:43 PM

            That's like in the ballpark of 2x as powerful as a 2080Ti, and would absolutely dwarf the supposed PS5 specs. Seems highly unlikely to me but who knows?

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        June 9, 2019 4:34 PM

        Ignore the name or the people in the video, the news and info in it is freaking amazing!

        Who cares what it is named or if it looks like the Project Scorpio trailer, they could have Mr. Potato Head, Beavis and Butt-Head or Pennywise narrate the whole video and I would not care.

        The specs and features are freaking INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

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        June 9, 2019 4:56 PM

        Just Xbox. Drop the The.

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      June 9, 2019 3:46 PM

      I only got home and started watching and BOOM, Bloober Team Blair Witch! I am so stoked! Perfect piece of pristine retro to mine!!!

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        June 9, 2019 3:51 PM

        Oh was it bloober doing that Blair shit? Looked exactly like outlast

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      June 9, 2019 4:26 PM

      I was surprised that they just skipped straight over xCloud, they barely mentioned the cloud streaming and spent longer talking about console streaming. Contrast with Stadia which announced basically everything down to specific plans and pricing. It makes me wonder if MS doesn't have as much confidence in their tech.

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        June 9, 2019 4:29 PM

        or maybe they don't consider Stadia something to be worried about

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          June 9, 2019 4:41 PM

          So you're saying they're so confident in their own product they don't feel the need to give it any press?

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            June 9, 2019 4:47 PM

            Not sure how you got that from my post, but Xcloud is obviously not ready to be announced at the moment. While it's possible Stadia caused MS some concern, I would think the most likely reason that Xcloud was only teased is because MS thinks it best to formally announce it when it's ready.

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              June 9, 2019 6:01 PM

              They announced it like a year ago. They probably just didn’t think it needed to be in the presentation for whatever reason

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        June 9, 2019 4:41 PM

        It's possible Stadia stole some thunder so they announced it to get it in the market, but have more tuning to be competitive. Plus, I got the feeling this is just the foothold after all and Scarlett will be the big play. Somehow.

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        June 9, 2019 5:01 PM

        Google is a new entry into the space. MS isn’t. Google had to prove itself big time. Ms just has to say ‘all games on games pass can be streamed to ....’ they will have a huge advantage.

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        June 10, 2019 1:31 AM

        They talked about it and said people will be able to try it at E3 and it's going live in October (beating Stadia). Also they have two approaches, a cloud service and your own console as a server approach. Pretty concise info.

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      June 9, 2019 4:35 PM

      Yeah I can't get the sign in to work on the Xbox beta app. MS says it's been fixed but every time I click 'sign in' it just refreshes the page.

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        June 9, 2019 4:58 PM

        You using Chrome w/ script blocking? Also sometimes you are logged in but are not being shown as.

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          June 9, 2019 5:00 PM

          Chrome with adblocking would affect an Xbox app on the PC?

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            June 9, 2019 5:01 PM

            Oh I thought it was a browser plug in.

            I'd see if you can log in to other Xbox or MSFT apps. Even Office. Might just be slammed on the beta app end.

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              June 9, 2019 5:02 PM

              Yeah this is just the Xbox app. I hope my account isn't banned but I imagine they would tell me if it was. I had a modded xbox 360 back in the day that got banned.

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        June 9, 2019 5:09 PM

        I had to reboot for it to start working.

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      June 9, 2019 5:33 PM

      Just caught up on thi... DUNKEY: OH MAH GAWD DID YOU SEE THOSE GRAFIX OOOOH ITS GONNA BE A MASTAPIECE!
      Cyberpunk
      Keanu
      Ori
      Fuckin FLIGHT SIMULATOR
      12 Minutes
      DOUBLE FINE

      Truly insane. A tour de force that showed that they are really doing stuff that gamers want to see vs what corps want to make infinite cash on. So impressed.

      PS: Battle Toads was probably the shittiest thing they showed. Especially after that animated sidescroller before it? Total turd sandwich.

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        June 9, 2019 6:41 PM

        Just watched battle toads trailer. Woof indeed

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