Ellen joins Ninja on Twitch, breaking his rule against streaming with females in the name of profit

Popular Fortnite streamer Tyler "Ninja" Blevins seems to have reversed his stance on streaming with women.

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Twitch star Ninja has broken one of his own rules regarding live streaming with female players. The incredibly popular Fortnite streamer has previously gone on record saying that he does "not play with [females] at all," but he seemed to have no qualms against streaming live with television host Ellen Degeneres.

Why is it that Ninja had a policy against broadcasting with female streamers? According to an interview with Polygon, the notion was apparently meant to prevent rumors (and 'fake news' headlines) of salacious behavior.

"If I have one conversation with one female streamer where we're playing with one another, and even if there's a hint of flirting, that is going to be taken and going to be put on every single video and be clickbait forever," Blevins said. "The only way to avoid that is to not play with them at all."

Streaming Fortnite with a name as big as Ellen is obviously a big win for Ninja, even if Ellen didn't actually play the game, but doubling back on previously reported stances does seem iffy. Even though Ninja's goal is to avoid rumors and clickbait stories, there's little doubt that players will now assume that any rule can be broken with the right amount of cash. We're not saying that's the case this time around; we're just saying that line can easily be drawn.

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    • P90
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      October 15, 2018 8:28 PM

      Wait, what? You're seriously trying to compare Ninja playing Fortnite with Ellen to him playing with another Twitch streamer? What a waste of a news story.

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      October 15, 2018 8:31 PM

      Even though Ninja's goal is to avoid rumors and clickbait stories

      said the author of the absurdly clickbaity story

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        October 15, 2018 8:53 PM

        I call it [fry]bait. Looks like we caught one! :P

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          October 15, 2018 8:55 PM

          you got me! i’ll share the link with my twitch friends on twitter and see if we can get you some hits.

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          October 15, 2018 9:01 PM

          Calling out the hypocrisy of notable gaming personalities is exactly the kind of thing the gaming press should be doing more of.

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            October 15, 2018 9:04 PM

            hypocrisy? He said he doesn’t play with, and I quote the article that started this thread, “female streamers”.

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              October 15, 2018 9:28 PM

              haha the article above says “he does not play with [females] at all.”

              haha guuuuuys come on. you don’t just get to make up quotes! i know it’s video game journalism but cooooome onnnnnnnnn.

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                  October 15, 2018 9:33 PM

                  Then do better than polygon and put the actual quote there?????

                  I don’t know. You gotta keep the lights on. But surely you can see the humor in this. It’s blatantly misleading at best.

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                  October 15, 2018 9:34 PM

                  Did you read it?

                  However shitty his reasoning, his stance is that he wants to avoid rumors of romantic entanglements with female streamers. There is really no chance of there being an issue with Ellen, now is there?

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                    October 15, 2018 9:43 PM

                    *says he doesn’t want to play with female streamers*

                    *doesn’t play with a female streamer*

                    *cnn has learned ninja has played [with a female] [when he said he wouldn’t] [ellen’s show streams on the internet] BREAKING*

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                      October 15, 2018 9:46 PM

                      Yeah.. I mean, I literally only heard of Ninja in this news article for the first time so I have no real stake here, but this seems like an exceptionally shitty article.


                      He's not "reversing his stance" (since there's nothing about playing with a female talk show host that violates his stated stance) and there's no indication he's doing it "for profit". He might be a shitty person but this is just just straight up lying for clicks I guess? Not sure this is the way forward tbh but what do I know.

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                        October 15, 2018 10:05 PM

                        He’s a relatively young dude who makes a million or so a month streaming on twitch and made a comment that he won’t play with other female streamers because he knows, as anyone intelligent does, that it will just turn into a horrible vindictive terrible situation not because of what he does or what she does, but because that is what it is to have 100,000 people watching you play a game.

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                          October 15, 2018 10:14 PM

                          You ok mwasher? Is crunch wearing you down?

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                            October 15, 2018 10:17 PM

                            lotta downtime in blops4 when you suck.

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                        October 15, 2018 11:45 PM

                        Point to a single lie in this story and I'll be happy to address it.

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                          October 15, 2018 11:48 PM

                          There’s nothing to point out. The article is devoid of anything of substance. I mean...

                          “We're not saying that's the case this time around; we're just saying that line can easily be drawn.”

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                      October 15, 2018 9:49 PM

                      To be clear, we corrected the headline to say streaming as opposed to playing. The article had already generated a Chatty thread. Please understand.

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                        October 15, 2018 9:57 PM

                        lol he didn’t say he wouldn’t stream with females. He said he wouldn’t stream with other female streamers.

                        This is so gross. There’s so much awesomeness in this moment with Ellen being involved in pop gaming culture and yet you’re wanting the site’s stance to be pure negativity around it.

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                  October 15, 2018 9:47 PM

                  “If I have one conversation with one female streamer...”

                  streamer.

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            October 15, 2018 9:04 PM

            Nah, not when he is a bro apparently. We should just be chill.

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              October 15, 2018 9:14 PM

              Chill? No. But if you’re gonna post an article about this then put some editorial reasoning behind it. Some meat. This is nothing more than a snarky hit piece.

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                October 15, 2018 9:28 PM

                Why are you pretending you read the articles here Miguel Washer

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                  October 15, 2018 9:29 PM

                  Seriously. They totally fell for it. Tricked into reading Shacknews.

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                    October 15, 2018 10:12 PM

                    I hit the front page daily and read everything that is posted so fuck off with this this juvenile bullshit.

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            October 15, 2018 10:25 PM

            It's about ethics in twitch streaming

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        October 16, 2018 7:15 AM

        I love that you've somehow gotten into streamers. Did not see that coming lol.

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          October 16, 2018 7:43 AM

          you and me both. p sure i have a history of posts here making fun of the entire concept.

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        October 16, 2018 7:56 AM

        We found Fry's trigger.

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      October 15, 2018 8:55 PM

      The fuck is this?

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        October 15, 2018 9:00 PM

        ($_$)

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          October 15, 2018 9:10 PM

          Ellen, an amazingly influential and inspiring lady, pops into a popular gaming stream and your headline is “got ‘em!!!!”

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      October 15, 2018 9:01 PM

      We're not saying that's the case this time around; we're just saying that line can easily be drawn talking out are ass thanks for the click.

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      October 15, 2018 9:15 PM

      Choked when I read the headline. Amazing lmfao

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      October 15, 2018 9:23 PM

      FYI he was also on Ellen a few days ago.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S1VuZ2FdQhM

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      October 15, 2018 10:16 PM

      “there's little doubt that players will now assume that any rule can be broken with the right amount of cash.”

      Yo. What was the amount of cash involved? Leaving me danglin.

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      October 15, 2018 10:31 PM

      I fully expected to defend this article in the subthread(s) above but I really can't.

      The tone is very shallow and borderline aggressive for absolutely no reason at all.

      It is incredibly clear looking at the polygon articles (which ought to have been sourced with the quote in the lead, not after the break) it is incredibly clear that playing with Ellen is not even close to related.

      Not only is Ellen not a female gamer or twith personality, but she is, more importantly, at the level of celebrity (not to mention married and lesbian) that the type of rumors Ninja is worried about clearly not a risk in this scenario. To somehow leap to the conclusion that he is breaking a rule due a "large amount of cash" is both silly and unfounded.

      With that said, I think there is still a good article to be written here.

      An article saying that Ninja's ability to play with Ellen while not fearing the repercussions that have worried him in the past is a step forward.
      An article that discusses the what, if any, responsibility popular streamers like Ninja have to promote streamers of all genders and backgrounds; and how his policy against streaming with female gamers may undermine that.
      An article about how Fortnite and Twitch are further increasing the popularity of video games in main stream markets. How the celebrity of video game streamers is starting to rival that of YouTube stars and enter the world of non-gamers entertainment (alongside Dota2 and LoL).

      So many possible articles that I would like to have read. I genuinely expected this to be one of them; but instead I got this.

      I get it, I'm not mad, click-baiting is common for a reason and if it keeps the lights on I'm ok with it from time to time, but I don't see how we can defend this particular piece.

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        October 15, 2018 10:36 PM

        I love how bent out of shape people are getting over making fun of a dude who makes tons of money playing games for a living getting called out for saying some stupid shit.

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          October 15, 2018 10:41 PM

          oh is that what shacknews was trying to do? Just throw some shade in jest?

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            October 15, 2018 10:50 PM

            I can't know nor do I give a shit as to what their goal was, that's just how I read it, and I find it hilarious.

            Dude is 100% in the wrong IMO and deserves ribbing at any opportunity given, whether in jest or not I support shacknews' effort this time.

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              October 15, 2018 11:11 PM

              Man for someone who doesn’t give a shit about something that you apparently can’t know about you sure do seem to have an opinion.

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                October 15, 2018 11:19 PM

                Go to sleep man, you've fucking lost it.
                My opinion is that ninja is an immature child, not a man, and his comments re: female streamers is proof of that, I find shacknews (or any outlet for that matter) shitting on him for his trash take a good thing, I don't need to know their reasoning behind it to hold that opinion.

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                  October 15, 2018 11:44 PM

                  Let’s assume he’s an immature child. Then from there let’s extrapolate the type of people who make up his 100,000 person audience at any given point in time. You wanna bring a female streamer into that? Ninja isn’t the issue. His audience is. And he knows that.

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                    October 15, 2018 11:49 PM

                    What a good and appropriate way to show that gender doesn't fucking matter and to instruct your mods to ban anyone who steps out of line. He has a platform to do good but chooses to abstain which does fuck all at best, if not harm female streamers/players in the long run due to his influence.

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                      October 15, 2018 11:51 PM

                      Now you’re just making up shit that has nothing to do with the thread.

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                        October 15, 2018 11:57 PM

                        I'm going to stop replying because you're making no sense at all.

                        TL;DR Ninja is a manchild douchebag who mwasher will stick up for no matter what, even if he purposefully alienates over 50% of the population because he can't handle the real world / the opposite sex.

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              October 15, 2018 11:20 PM

              Also, no one, including the op, was making fun of anyone. Stop projecting so hard dude.

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          October 15, 2018 10:43 PM

          If that's what they were doing I don't think anyone would be bent out of shape about it? It's the fact that they're just blatantly making shit up to do it that people are reacting to.

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            October 15, 2018 11:15 PM

            I can't know nor do I give a shit as to what their goal was, that's just how I read it, and I find it hilarious.

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        October 15, 2018 10:50 PM

        how dare you put more thought into this post than the article!

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      October 15, 2018 11:24 PM

      shacknews.tmz.com

      sad state of affairs, guys

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      October 16, 2018 4:53 AM

      Regardless of quality of the article, this guys stance on streaming with females is shitty and damaging, and I'm surprised at some people here defending it. This short story ridicules this asshat in a way, and for that reason I'm happy with it.

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      October 16, 2018 5:16 AM

      Here is the thing: Its his JOB to play games in front of an audience. Where else would this be tolerated? Would a lawyer be allowed to refuse to plead a case if the judge is the opposite sex? Would it be ok for a Dr to not operate with Drs of other genders assisting? Would it be ok for an actor to refuse costarring with an actress? Its one thing if this was his hobby. Its his career and he is making it clear that a professional should be allowed to have a gender bias on a professional level to his mostly under aged viewing audience.

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        October 16, 2018 6:31 AM

        Don't actors refuse working with people all the time for various reasons, personal or otherwise? And what he does isn't really on the level of importance of being a doctor or lawyer.

        I don't particularly agree with his decision or reasoning but I also don't think streamers should be forced to stream with people they don't want in order to meet some equality quota.

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          October 16, 2018 6:52 AM

          There is a difference between not working with someone because they are difficult or an asshole and loudly proclaiming that you will not working with 50% or more of the population because of a birth characteristic.

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        October 16, 2018 6:41 AM

        Umm, he's self-employed.

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        October 16, 2018 7:50 AM

        Lebron James doesn't play with women. Tom Brady doesn't play with women. Clayton Kershaw doesn't play with women. Why aren't they using their platform in front of millions to advocate that men and women are equal and can play in the same league?

        Ninja doesn't want to play with female streamers because of the drama he wants to avoid. Just because he's popular doesn't mean he needs to be a crusader for women's rights. If he was, that would be a great thing! But the dude is just trying to make money and enjoy his life.

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        October 16, 2018 8:23 AM

        plenty of people self select their audience / customer base. I know a few women attorney's who only work with female clients or female-led companies. It's both legal and acceptable. and I don't have an issue with it.

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      October 16, 2018 5:49 AM

      The mike pence of streaming

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      October 16, 2018 6:26 AM

      well, at least you've generated a conversation lol

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        October 16, 2018 7:09 AM

        Asif Khan more like Asif Khantroversial Journalist

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          October 16, 2018 7:12 AM

          Oh wait Kevin wrote it nm

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            October 16, 2018 7:33 AM

            Whenever I see the name "Kevin Tucker" I think of a hybrid Chris Tucker/Kevin Hart

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              October 16, 2018 10:09 AM

              I think of Kevin Kline/Chris Tucker, personally

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      October 16, 2018 7:27 AM

      This “article” is pretty lol

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        October 16, 2018 7:41 AM

        We need more articles about logan paul and KSI.

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      October 16, 2018 7:55 AM

      TrumpNews

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      October 16, 2018 8:19 AM

      I'm more surprised that Ellen is apparently cool with his policy enough to endorse him.

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      October 16, 2018 10:05 AM

      Yeah but she’s gay so it evens out