Morning Discussion: Women's Day

"Please mention International Women's Day," she says. "It's the Alice thing to do."

So I did, but not without doing a little research first:

International Women's Day (8 March) is a global day celebrating the economic, political and social achievements of women past, present and future. In some places like China, Russia, Vietnam and Bulgaria, IWD is a national holiday.

Chris Faylor was previously a games journalist creating content at Shacknews.

From The Chatty
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    March 8, 2010 5:02 AM

    I think I made jbury buy Bad Company 2. How about that Shack?

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      March 8, 2010 5:03 AM

      I think BC2 has some weapon balancing issues.

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        March 8, 2010 5:05 AM

        In particular, medics weapons and their never ending rounds.

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          March 8, 2010 5:06 AM

          It didn't stop you from killing me... over... and over... and over :(

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          March 8, 2010 5:07 AM

          I would like to find this weapon with never ending rounds.

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            March 8, 2010 5:13 AM

            I'm just frustrated that they usually beat me during a face off when i'm an assault. I do only have the XM8 right now but damn from their starting weapon to the M60 they have a nice arsenal that seems to overpower me each time.

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              March 8, 2010 5:14 AM

              40mm grenades are often a one-hit kill. If I go assault it's to use them, not for ammo boxes.

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                March 8, 2010 5:15 AM

                Right, but I only have two of those as i don't pick up the grenade perk.

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                  March 8, 2010 9:01 AM

                  Ammo Box + also, Medic accuracy is thrown to bits when you shoot them. So shoot them in the head, and they should go down quick. (I'm a medic)

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          March 8, 2010 5:10 AM

          I've noticed the high scores are generally medics.

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            March 8, 2010 5:11 AM

            That's not due to their weapons per say. They accumulate tons of points if they have a good squad that sticks togethor, takes damage, and dies :P

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            March 8, 2010 5:14 AM

            they get crazy points for using health packs/defib

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            March 8, 2010 5:40 AM

            Yeah, that's mostly from healing people and reviving them. Not from dropping fools. And medics aren't fucking invincible, jesus christ you people are whiners.

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            March 8, 2010 6:10 AM

            Based on my playing time I can tell you it's definitely not due to kills. Revives with the defibrillator, general heals, spotting and laying down suppressing fire are the way I constantly rack up 5000+ points a round with a medic, even on my worst plays. There are always people needing revives. Just like any other class, you have to play up to the class' strengths to rack up those points which are reflective of your efficiency with a class overall.

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            March 8, 2010 6:11 AM

            If you look at most Medics K/D ratio. It's really low. Their high points are due to medkit heals and defibs.

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            March 8, 2010 6:39 AM

            That's because we get 80 points for every squad heal. I'll be middle of the leaderboard with no kills.

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            March 8, 2010 7:09 AM

            Support classes should always score at or near the top IMO, that's the best way to get pubbers to play them. TF2 Medics are the same way.

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          March 8, 2010 5:15 AM

          I don't like getting killed from across the map with the M1911 pistol. At least in hardcore mode I stand a chance.

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          March 8, 2010 6:48 AM

          I was thinking about this yesterday. My main class is easily the medic (I have over 3x the amount of points in that class vs others, the next closest being my vehicle score), so I've been playing a lot of the other classes lately. Yesterday I was playing as assault and it felt like I was constantly reloading, and getting caught doing so. I'd either be on offense and run into a couple guys, maybe kill 1or 2, and be forced to retreat and reload or die. On defense I find that I spot a couple guys and manage to kill 1 or 2 and then lose the rest because I have to reload.

          On the other hand, with the medic, you can take out a LOT of guys before having to take the time to reload, and I find that I am significantly more effective at killing people as the medic, in addition to the fact that I have a huge amount of ammo and can bring my entire squad back to life. So I kind of agree it feels like the medic is a little overpowered at this moment but not so much that it's breaking the game. I also am only up to the XM8 as the assault at the moment.

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          March 8, 2010 7:23 AM

          medic m60 with the accuracy upgrade is the best weapon in the game. you cannot prove me wrong. you can outsnipe snipers except at super-extreme ranges. it's easy as fuck to outscore any assault without using defib or medkits with how many kills the m60 gets.

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            March 8, 2010 9:26 AM

            yeah kaboomZzZ was demolishing me on Valdez the other day sniping with an M60, I seriously almost ragequit.

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        March 8, 2010 7:27 AM

        Haha, ya think? Let's count the ways:

        Tank Medics
        Recon homos who can kill across from the other side of the map, blow up tanks in one hit (c4) and rain death down at will (mortar strike)

        Oh and lets not forget knife combat. There are more sword fights in this game then in a gay bath house. Normally I'd be fine with some nice melee combat except when I unload an automatic rifle into someone and yet they still have time to stand up, turn around and stick their knife through my eye socket. Slight balance problem there is the guns..

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      March 8, 2010 5:09 AM

      I'm thinking about buying it but I'm rather FPS out after mad amount of Bioshock 2.

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        March 8, 2010 5:16 AM

        Just do it. Apart from the connection issues some people have, it's an amazing game.

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        March 8, 2010 5:24 AM

        What? Fuck the sequel that should have just been DLC. Buy this game!

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          March 8, 2010 5:33 AM

          Bioshock 2 was a better game than the first. no way it could have been DLC.

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          March 8, 2010 5:42 AM

          shut your whore mouth

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      March 8, 2010 5:11 AM

      After spending an hour or so more last night trying to get some gaming done with a friend, I'm beginning to regret buying this game. I feel like I've supported developers/publishers using paying customers as beta testers, and treating PC gamers as second class gamers. Had I known it was going to be this bad, I would have at least waited until they got their shit working before buying.

      The game itself is a blast based on the few hours I've managed to play. Which is about half of what time I've spent trying to play.

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        March 8, 2010 5:18 AM

        Second class gamers? BC2 for PC is EXCEPTIONAL (disclaimer: in my experience).

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          March 8, 2010 5:20 AM

          Like I said, the game itself is good, but I don't feel launching with a server browser, or server stability/performance, such as that in the game right now shows much respect for the customer.

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      March 8, 2010 5:17 AM

      Also, how do you people score thousands of points each round? I average probably 500-800 with assault and that's dishing ammo, capping points, and getting a few kills.

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        March 8, 2010 5:18 AM

        I got 19k last night; Distinguished Marksman (5000), Distinguished Melee (5000), two Silver stars, and a whole bunch of other points.

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          March 8, 2010 5:21 AM

          Jesus fuck what level are you?

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            March 8, 2010 5:25 AM

            15, I'm behind everyone about 5-10 levels too. I just got the ceramic armor last night and I was fucking RAGING all over people. Went 33-10 in one map.

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              March 8, 2010 5:29 AM

              I'm only level 4. Started out using medic because I was pretty decent with LMGs in BF2 but switched to assault.

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            March 8, 2010 6:32 AM

            You will start owning people at level 10+ because of the buffs and weapons that actually shoot where you aim, which imho is fucking annoying.

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              March 8, 2010 6:46 AM

              Thanks for the info. Only 5 more levels :[

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          March 8, 2010 5:23 AM

          I think prime meant combat points, not award points.
          But you get a lot of points for just generally working towards your objective. Killing bad guys is an extra, but you can make a lot with resuply, refib, spotting, blowing shit up..

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          March 8, 2010 5:27 AM

          I would like to see some explanation on the stars. I have no idea why and when I get them.

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            March 8, 2010 6:01 AM

            Look at your unlocks progression, and look at the details of every weapon. It will tell you how many kills you need to get a star.

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          March 8, 2010 9:22 AM

          flammable had a 30k round once iirc

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        March 8, 2010 5:19 AM

        Getting bagdes and pins usually boost my score by almost the double.

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          March 8, 2010 5:21 AM

          I get a few badges and pins too but barely crack 2000.

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            March 8, 2010 5:22 AM

            I think under the multiplayer tab you can preview all the gold medals that give you 5k points.

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        March 8, 2010 5:20 AM

        I'd also like to see this game without snipers and sniper rifles.

        And the browser needs a hardcore filter.

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          March 8, 2010 5:33 AM

          I've found putting HC into the server name search brings back a list of hardcore servers. Also you can try putting hardcore or Hardcore in the search. Unfortunately it seems to be case sensitive.

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        March 8, 2010 5:22 AM

        Get lucky (have a good squad) and be a medic. You'll be shitting points.

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        March 8, 2010 6:41 AM

        Jesus, I'm lucky if I get 200, and that's usually only when I get the +100 pin for being on the winning team. My best round had a K/D ratio of 2/18. =(

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          March 8, 2010 6:48 AM

          Only 100 for the winning team? Must be different in conquest because you get 200 there. I've only had a few rounds where I had more kills than deaths. Usually it's like 10 deaths and 2 kills or something.

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      March 8, 2010 5:27 AM

      You did - I played it some more at lunch (now I could actually log in) and it seems... pretty fun :)

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        March 8, 2010 5:28 AM

        Also I'm playing as Medic and think I'm level 2 now (I get shock paddles the next time I level up!)

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        March 8, 2010 5:32 AM

        Awesome! I saw your message on Steam last night and wasn't really sure if you meant you bought BC2. So cool you did. We should totally team up tonight! (Add Bamii)

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          March 8, 2010 6:07 AM

          Not sure if I'll be able to play tonight as I've a lot on my plate - but yeah I'll add you and hopefully catch you online :D

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            March 8, 2010 6:13 AM

            Also I'm loving medic, do you get xp for dropping medpacks? I was laying on the floor dead earlier but seemed to be getting some kind of medpack xp spam

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              March 8, 2010 6:35 AM

              Not for simply dropping them, but you get 10 XP for healing someone out of your squad, 20 XP if they're in your squad.

              After a while you'll start to figure out the points of the map that people like to do standoffs and you'll find that dropping a med-pack right on top of them will yield quite a bit of XP. But remember, you can only have 1 med-pack down on the ground, so don't run around spam dropping 'em thinking you're doing good.

              Also, defibs will be your best friend. If you're attacking, reviving your teammates is how you can stay in the game for just a weebit longer, as it replenishes a ticket. I'm usually running between both points of the map, finding people to revive. If none, I take to the M60 and spot people and possibly mow them down. You can hold down the left mouse button and be right on top of the guy with your reticule, even though it's spread wide open, and still do massive, accurate damage.

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                March 8, 2010 6:45 AM

                Ahhhh I didn't realise you could only have one medkit dropped - thanks for the tip!

                I need another half level to unlock the defib, looking forward to it :)

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              March 8, 2010 6:37 AM

              Yes, your med pack keeps healing people until you throw another one (or until it healed for an x amount, not totally sure).

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      March 8, 2010 5:38 AM

      I like the game a lot but I get annoyed by being getting stuck with shitty squad members :( The game is amazing with the right squad but totally annoying with the wrong one.

      GOOD SQUAD
      - Be near something important at all times in order to facilitate squad spawns.
      - Diverse classes per squad (at least one medic plz)
      - Know how to drive the fucking helicopter.
      - Spots enemies and calls out targets.
      - If I die and I'm a medic, you pick up my kit and defib me.
      - Moves together.
      - Defends nodes.

      BAD SQUAD
      - Contains a medic that never drops health packs or defibs dead squad mates because hes too busy trying to be an assault class.
      - Is a passenger in all the tanks but never repairs my tank when its exploding.
      - Does not know how to fly the fucking helicopter.
      - 3/4 of squad is recon and half way across the map.
      - Goes lone wolf.
      - Ignores defending A/B points even when there are bombs in them that need disarming.


      Also playing a medic is a blast, but playing assault really sucks outside of having a grenade launcher. The guns really suck outside of the XM8 or whatever.

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        March 8, 2010 5:41 AM

        I have to disagree on the assault class. I unlocked the an-94 today and with the 4x scope I was a killing machine. I miss my m-16 though :(

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          March 8, 2010 6:02 AM

          I have to get a few more unlocks but I got the Aug and it just feels worse than the XM8. Is the M16 that much better?

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            March 8, 2010 6:09 AM

            i didnt like the AUG, however the AN94 is a massive improvement over everything else.

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        March 8, 2010 5:44 AM

        +inf. I like to think I do all the things a good squad member does, apart from the helicopter part :(

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        March 8, 2010 6:03 AM

        I tend to try to secure the area before using the defib, so I don't die and make the defib worthless towards the ticket count.

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          March 8, 2010 6:22 AM

          Thats another thing. Don't fucking defib me if I'm standing in a mortar strike :(

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        March 8, 2010 6:13 AM

        If you die and are a medic, doesn't picking up a kit swap yours out? So then you're no longer the medic, and there's no way to swap as far as I know. This is a strategy best used when you're isolated and there are no other medics around. Otherwise it's beneficial for everyone to let the medics do the medic jobs.

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          March 8, 2010 6:21 AM

          I mean if I'm the medic and you're in my squad and standing next to me, you can then pick up my kit, defib me, then pick back up your own kit.

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            March 8, 2010 6:22 AM

            Actually once they res you, you recieve their kit and they can't switch back.

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              March 8, 2010 6:24 AM

              Ah ok, better than being dead I guess.

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                March 8, 2010 6:25 AM

                Speak for your self, assault sucks. ^_^

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                  March 8, 2010 6:27 AM

                  It does. I enjoy the game way more as a medic. You feel like you're actually contributing instead of sucking tickets.

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              March 8, 2010 7:19 AM

              That's what I said?

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        March 8, 2010 6:52 AM

        Q doesn't do shit in hardcore mode as far as calling out enemies.

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        March 8, 2010 7:04 AM

        Is there any way to actually learn how to fly the helicopters without going online and ruining it for the rest of your team?

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        March 8, 2010 8:36 AM

        That's a good list, but 'lone wolfing' does have a place . outflanking a group of enemies and owning 3 or 4 from the rear or flank is a great rush

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      March 8, 2010 5:49 AM

      I think you are fat.

      Also: good job. More lols on TS!

      So... Starcraft 2 tonight? :)

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        March 8, 2010 5:55 AM

        No way. Even if I could get it running, I'll still be playing BC2.

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          March 8, 2010 6:09 AM

          Unf, wanna play instead of work

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            March 8, 2010 6:42 AM

            I'm stuck at work for a few more hours as well :(

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              March 8, 2010 6:43 AM

              Let's hug :(

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                March 8, 2010 6:46 AM

                k, I'll show you my new dogtag. It's got NITRIUM on it!

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          March 8, 2010 6:10 AM

          But several shackers will kill us if we let our SC2 betas gather dust. It is our duty to play it till ... well... way to late like last night :(

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            March 8, 2010 6:39 AM

            I knew you were playing SC2 when I didn't see you come online in BC2. You're such a fag.

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      March 8, 2010 6:11 AM

      Any other recons think the GOL is a better rifle than the M95? While the M95 does more damage, neither of them are one shot kills unless it's a headshot. It also reloads much more slowly, and has aiming bob when scoped in. Are there any real advantages it offers besides damage?

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      March 8, 2010 6:11 AM

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      March 8, 2010 6:24 AM

      The Rush game mode is AWESOME but needs more maps :( I don't think I've played Conquest much, how are the maps?

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        March 8, 2010 6:24 AM

        anyone know if they are planning on adding more maps?

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        March 8, 2010 6:27 AM

        Conquest mode would be a whole lot more awesome if capping the points actually fucking did something. Like maybe gave you back some tickets, or if you held all 3 or 4 for a certain amount of time you'd win. Like in DoW II.

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          March 8, 2010 6:29 AM

          The more cap spots your team has the faster the tickets for the opposing team go down. I'd say that's a pretty important "something".

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            March 8, 2010 6:33 AM

            Oh i didn't know that. Well maybe if the opposing were to cap a point they'd get some of those tickets back.

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              March 8, 2010 6:35 AM

              The game would never end. It would be like Groundhog Day. With guns.

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        March 8, 2010 6:32 AM

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          March 8, 2010 6:34 AM

          This is why I enjoy it so much. It is great.

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          March 8, 2010 6:39 AM

          I love that too. Sometimes you have to spend a little bit of time "mopping up" the base you just cleared, or you'll get shot in the back as you move forward.

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          March 8, 2010 6:41 AM

          Rush is fine, no complaints, but I like how Conquest allows you to breathe a bit. The entire map is open and allows you to make the calls in what to do next, rather than knowing you have to get the same two spots that'll be obviously heavily guarded, or vice-versa.

          Even though the standoffs are in the same places in Conquest maps, it still feels like a new experience each time and doesn't become redundant.

          Rush, at this point, just seems like who can blow up the building first. And chances are, if there's no building to blow up, the team gets lazy and never attacks the other node which leads to an epic fail. I've seen this happen on the beta map plenty of times.

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        March 8, 2010 6:40 AM

        I still think it's retarded that a server can only host rush OR conquest maps.

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          March 8, 2010 6:43 AM

          Yeah, I hope they patch that sometime.

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        March 8, 2010 6:42 AM

        The conquest maps are awesome. I love them.

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        March 8, 2010 8:15 AM

        Conquest maps are nice, but Rush is just so much more fun. Conquest seems like your HS gf during your soph yr in college....ya, she's still cute, but all these new hotties (rush) are way more exciting. (ie been there, done that)

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      March 8, 2010 6:39 AM

      This game is good. Real fuckin good. BUT the only thing though about these new unlock FPS's is that at first you get relatively owned even if you have a pretty moderate or higher skill level in the game. In other words, in fire fights I can't shake the feeling that my PKM isn't nearly as deadly as some of the shit I'm going up against. That's a pisser. Atl east start me out with my class items like a Defib or Wrench to power level up fast to get weapons that shoot straight. :(

      Oh well, not a big deal but there is that slight feeling of frustration until I get more firepower to do something with....

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        March 8, 2010 6:54 AM

        I agree I've come face to face with a few snipers and started shooting them (XM8 at the moment) before they start shooting me and they kill me instantly with the M1911 pistol. That fucking gun makes me want to rage.

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      March 8, 2010 6:39 AM

      So i've come to to the conclusion that I dont like recon as a defender. I was making my final push for the m95 last night and so stuck with recon no matter what. I just felt unable to really react to much, never found a really good perch that could monitor the mcoms.

      On the other hand, had some of my best rounds as an attacking recon last night. wound up 3rd or 4th on the team. Aside from spotting constantly and killing a good numer of people, my main high point was keeping the bomb ticking, with a clear los, recon is a defuser's worst nightmare. if recon is paying attention, nothing seals the deal better that dropping a mortar strike on an mcom just as your team arms it. not only does it keep them from rushing in to disarm (and hopefully killing those who already did) but it also provides a nice visual obstruction for your team who are probably scrambling to cover. also, nothing says headshot like a bomb diffuser just working away. for all the complaints about recons, i gotta say i felt pretty fucking useful last night on offense, on defense...not so much

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        March 8, 2010 7:38 AM

        Recon can be great on defense, you just need to change up your strategy a bit.

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      March 8, 2010 6:40 AM

      I played rush briefly last night with Kodiak/ Freakord and one of the Evil's (benius i think). We captured our points, blew up enemy vehicles and won the round.

      I got 400 experience from that. Out of 6500 needed for level one. Seriously WTF

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        March 8, 2010 6:42 AM

        Yeah, I don't understand the "give the newest players the shittiest weapons and make it hard for them to feel effective" mentality here. I keep getting owned by dudes with giant future weapons and I'm sitting there with an AK.

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          March 8, 2010 6:59 AM

          I don't like the model either. It's just perpetuating scores for higher levels at the expense of making a rough start to get into it. Imagine someone buying this game a month from now, going up against top level people....kinda off if you ask me. MW2 has the same problem

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        March 8, 2010 6:43 AM

        I would say 800-1000 is a good average for middle of the road players. the big XP comes from getting the badges and bonuses. most of the efficiency pins (repair, rifle, grenade, etc...) all net 100+ XP each. you should be getting at least 3 or 4 of those a round.

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          March 8, 2010 6:44 AM

          what are those pins? how do you get them? the only pin I ever get is just the basic "hey your team won" pin

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            March 8, 2010 6:46 AM

            you get them for doing stuff in the game. both weapon based and class based. if you get x amount of kills with assault rifles, then you get the rifle efficiency and 100 (i think) xp. if you repair friendly armor x amount of times you get repair efficiency. etc...

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              March 8, 2010 6:48 AM

              Oh, so you actually have to succeed at doing stuff to get them. No wonder!

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                March 8, 2010 6:52 AM

                well even if you arent getting kills there are plenty of ways to get pins. every class has a support feature that you can get pins for. resupplying friendlies, healing, reviving, spotting, kill assists, etc...

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                  March 8, 2010 9:16 AM

                  As a medic I will commonly get 3 or 4 "Revive 5 People" combat pins a round. Also a Light Machine gun efficiency, a couple of savior pings, some dog tags, headshot pin. I like when I have to scroll to see all my pins :)

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              March 8, 2010 8:26 AM

              Pretty sure it's 7 kills in a round with any of the primary weapons.

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        March 8, 2010 6:43 AM

        You'll get more over time. Once you learn how everything works you can make a significant amount.

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      March 8, 2010 6:49 AM

      BFBC2.exe \m/

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      March 8, 2010 7:17 AM

      I tried to play last night and my game kept crashing back to Windows FROM THE MENU. Usually happened when I was trying to do a server browser refresh or join a game. Has this happened to anyone else? It happened about eight times before I gave up and played TF2 instead.

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        March 8, 2010 7:17 AM

        And this is after it worked all week without a single crash.

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        March 8, 2010 9:28 AM

        Man i couldn't even RUN the game this weekend, via Steam. Got some unavailable crap, and this was after it worked a few days prior. Turns out a bunch of files/folders were readonly, and had to do some "Data Execution Prevention" crap in Windows 7.

        Maybe your issue is similar even somehow? Worth checking out, even if you aren't using Steam:
        https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4595-WEXN-6831

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      March 8, 2010 7:21 AM

      Watch this and justify the purchase:
      http://www.justin.tv/rydogg1/

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