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  I don't think they'll sell them individually on day one, I think they'll sell the three new ones in a pac... : Chris Remo
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    I don't think they'll sell them individually either or at least they'll package TF2 with HL2ep2. They wan... : K1Bond007
    • they will eventually, as they did with Half-Life 2. : mrfunky3000
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    My guess - $50 for all three. : five_percent
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      Same price as picking up a box and getting HL2, HL2:ep1 as well? : Freon
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        Yeah, it's going to be cheaper then $50 for sure. $35? : Serpico74
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          I'm guessing $30, then the price would come out evenly. If it is $20 right now for HL2 + Ep1, then it's $... : ovrlrd
          • About $35 for all 3 on Steam is the current thinking. Might be $40 which I think is what the Black Box w... : Musicrab
        • That's my guess : megarust32
• I really just want TF2. : Porkasaurus

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  There's an offline mode in Steam, no need for network disconnect shenanigans. : Warlock
  • Only works if you activated it *before*, when you were online. : zehh

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  no way ep 3 will be the end of half life. it has to end with a bang, like a half life 3. at i hope this h... : MCbigdude
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    valve already said it's a trilogy, and that the episodes are half-life 3, so the final episode, AFAIK, wi... : oatmela
    • doesnt mean it has to end at ep 3. i just dont see how they can wrap up what was started in half life 1 a... : MCbigdude
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      Then why isn't it called Half-Life 3: Episode 1 and so on? : ventro
      • Honestly, because they sort of made a naming mistake. They probably should have called it that; it would... : Chris Remo

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  with typical Valve dev times it was doomed from the start : Lethal01
  • so true. at least those of us who own HL2 (who doesn't?) will be able to bypass EA and retail and buy it ... : maldoror
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  They've already pretty much said that they shouldn't have called them episodes. : aeg1x
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    No they didn't. They said they shouldn't have called it HL2: Episode X, because in reality it was HL3 bu... : treefingers1
    • HL2: Treefingers1 is a silly name. : deathofrats
    • "The word 'episodic' is so clearly incorrect," admitted Valve's Doug Lombardi during a recent discussion : aeg1x
• Half-life 2 took over 5 years to make. I think 2 years wait for a 10 hour episode isnt half bad : jellystones1
• As if is going to be anywhere near half that, it will be 5 hours of sheer gaming perfection though. : spdon

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  It's even more alarming that they started work on Episode 1 & 2 at the same time. : ripper9
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    almost as bad as SD is getting. this "when its done" crap is starting to irritate me. if I could do that ... : kri kri
    • Yet obviously Valve is doing something right if they can just say "when it's done" and still sell a shitl... : Sapiens

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• I reckon I shall be playing Portal first, with a little bit of TF2. Will beleaving Ep2 until last I think... : jbury
• Depends on what time I have available. If I have an afternoon off, Ep2 it is. Shorter chunks mean working... : sgtsanity
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  I'll get it for 360 and I'm going to play through HL2 again, then ep1 and ep2. I'll jump in TF2 and Porta... : nomaad
  • Thats my plan too although it will be hard to stick with that : bozer
• Ep2... I need to know what happens. Apparently we get to find out about who the G-Man is : uglysad
• Episode 2 FTW : mrfunky3000
• wtf people - the answer is TF2! : finalthrill
• TF2 and only TF2 : Old_Fart
• I'll rabbit through EP2... then Portal... then TF2... : dedgecko
• episode 2 of course. the rest will have to wait. going to play through hl2 and ep1 right before it's r... : pyide
• Portal, then TF2. I still need to finish HL2 and EP1 before I start on EP2. : pyrogen
• TF2, with Episode 2 when i'm not playing TF2. After ep. 2 is done, i'll move to Portal. Which isn't to ... : megarust32
• TF2. I can't believe we'll have to wait till Oct 9th AT LEAST. : Pneum0
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  Single Player, at least 2 times , then Portal, and maybe TF2 if there's no steam deal on dual games and I... : shirif
  • mispelled Orange : shirif
• I expect myself to hop on to TF2 immediatly, I'll try portal a week later probably : pharoah mike
• Just Portal. I'm holding out on Half-Life until episode 3 and Black Mesa comes out(if it ever comes out.) : Popedispencer
• single player then go play TF2. doubt I'll play portal very long : tunis5000
• TF2, and Portal when I need to rest between frantic matches of TF2. Oh, this is after beating Episode ... : MurrayTheSkull
• TF2 all the way. For days, then maybe I will play the other stuff. : maldoror
• I won't touch TF2 until there's a private shack server, but I have to say, as very cool as Ep 2 looks, I ... : Dynotaku
• Episode 2. How are you heretics? It's Half-Life! You gotta finish this first. I'll probably devour th... : vile
• Tf2 all the way baby! : chilln
• TF2 for a few minutes, and then a marathon playthrough of Ep2, then back to TF2. And then I'll do some P... : PenicillinX57
• I dont even want to d/l anything except TF2. : Slowtreme
• Ep2, then TF2 and Portal. : Orange Pylon

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  hehe, I get it on my bday.... I"M COOLER THAN YOOOOOOO --jk, you playing WiC yet? : dedgecko
  • Oh yeah? I don't have to wait till my birthday to get it! So there! : theargent

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  Yeah there'll be three and no doubt they'll release it as one biggie once they're done. : SpaecKow
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    thanks for the info mate :) : humbleone
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      Rumor has said it wont take place on earth, but it's apparently wrong because Valve has said they just st... : Amnesty_intl2
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        Episode 3, Return to Zen! : Dynotaku
        • Xen. *frowns disapprovingly* : crummynz

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  pc has mouse + keyboard............. : skinlab133
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    which affects the accuracy of your aiming, but in no way increases your enjoyment of the game : OrkO
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      It increases my enjoyment of the game. : Chris Remo
      • lol end of thread. : downrightevil
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      You die less? IMO, I'm good with both give or take. On a game pad, I can move better and aiming is fin... : Fail_Safe
      • Why do you die less with a KB+M? Surely the fact that everyone else has a mouse means they are more accur... : marmite
      • Its not relative at all. Go watch youtube vids of people playing UT3 with a gamepad then watch them playi... : thewindcriesmary
    • The feel of the mouse is 100x more solid than a joystick could ever be. : Pneum0
• depending on how well it sells for the 360, TF2 could somehow be better over Xbox Live, but I'm guessing ... : mrfunky3000
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  PC will have 32 vs 32 battles for TF2. : gmoney
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    Seriously? Jesus. : famine101
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      I'm pretty sure the limit is 32 players (ie 16 vs 16). : aeg1x
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        I'm pretty sure about a lot of things in this thread apparently. : aeg1x
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          Are you sure? : rustified
          • I used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure. : aeg1x
      • I think that limit in fine. More doesn't mean better. I like the 24 player limit on ETQW. : dumptruck
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    That doesn't sound reasonable for a CSS sized game. : SpaecKow
    • 36 to 40 player CSS games are way to crowded, 64 player games lol? no thx : thewindcriesmary
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  I'm pretty sure it will have much more longevity on the PC. There's still a relatively healthy TFC commun... : aeg1x
  • this post FTW : dumptruck
  • Yes I think this will be the case too. Unless you are Halo, on the 360 you basically have a 1 month windo... : SenorSpine
• How is that even a choice? : GreatGooglyMoogly
• I don't think my laptop will be up to the task of running it, so I'll probably get it on 360 (although I'... : jbury
• Also, I can understand why you would say Live is easier compared to some games, but Steams friends and se... : SpaecKow
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  Valve is supposedly coming out with an enhancement to Steam that will making easy like Live. I think it's... : freshyk
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    i thought steam was already easy? seems pretty simple to me. : kri kri
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      Yeah it is but they're adding new stuff like matchmaking. Here is the link: http://steamreview.org/posts/... : freshyk
      • Wow! That sounds awesome. Had no idea they were coming up with that. : crummynz
• PC, it just "seems" right for it : pharoah mike
• PC since I already have the games on steam. I'm still interested in playing HL2 again on the 360, but I'd... : pyide

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• I figured we'd have consecutive birthdays on the shack, but 3 shackers? inconceivable! : dedgecko

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• i would like to subscribe to your newsletter : e v i l
• I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. Hell, I'm sure they are beta testing it still, I'm surprised t... : dedgecko

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• I was hoping for August. boo : dumptruck

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  Which one of those doesn't have a mouse and keyboard? : stuka
  • ^^ the only answer : moneyshot
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  PC, mainly for the control. It may not be too horrible in the HL2 games on the 360, but in TF2 you'll get... : Orange Pylon
  • I don't know, TF2 doesn't look like it's going to be about precise pinpoint aim like some other first per... : Serpico74
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  Considering Valve makes good games, and takes care to create scalable technology/content, I think you can... : SpaecKow
  • Yeah, first time I played HL-2 was on my old toshiba laptop which could barely run doom 3 beyond 5 fps o... : shirif
• That PC is on its last legs unfortunately. You will probably get better graphics on the 360... But ... : chilln

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• i agree. valve release dates don't mean a damn thing. especially when the date is projected over severa... : Fish_Bulb

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  they just need positive encouragement : AllYourBase
  • They actually were going to can the whole shebang, but once steve asked for them to release, they knew th... : geedeck
• I dunno about you, but after reading the headline I released. : Freon
• YEAH GOGOGO FIRE IN THE HOLE!! : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  lol - Totally agree. They should do a pre-order special! Pre-order Ep2 now and get into the TF2 bet : ThomW
  • They did that with HL2 and CS:S. It suckered me in. : rock elf
• Not with all this bloggy blog nonsense, it won't. >: ( : sgtsanity
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  I'm just imagining Robin Walker running up to Gabe Newell, saying "Gabe! Steve Gibson wants us to release : kungfusquirrel
  • just thinking about gabe sliding down a fire pole makes me laugh : aeg1x
  • Walker would just summon the inflatable kangaroo army. : cannelbrae

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  by a 'nose' : trOmblyj
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    announced a year after, released a good two years before : pharoah mike
    • i had to reallllllllly fight the urge to say "at least a year" but as fun as that could be to appear as p... : pharoah mike

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• probably why it is so delayed : dantastic
• not just three separate games, but on many platforms as well. : manero

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• As do I!!! : trOmblyj

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• Don't worry about the upgrade, you'll run it fine. : ripper9

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• Yes, you barely have time to finish it before Ep 2 is released. You can make it if you play a lot during ... : Metst510

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  come on, no one? Seriously, this post is comedy. : downrightevil
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    it is? I must have missed the funny part :P : jbury
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      Its there, look carefully. : sadgoblin
      • All I can see is a joke relating to HL2 being delayed - which was funny years ago but is a little bit dat... : jbury