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  I like this. Do this more; pulling opinions from the Chatty : Entity
  • Yep, first news item I've read through on the site in a long while :) : dael
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  I couldn't give two shites about The Price Is Right, I don't give a flying fuck about the NFL, NBA and my... : Kartman013
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    You do realize that it also plays games, right? : JohnnyRey
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      You wouldn't know it from the preso. : Thornfist
      • Oh no, i thought this was discussed a million times over in the past couple days. : daroach1414
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        Thats because MS is assuming that that part is fairly obvious. Yes, it plays games. What else do you want... : JohnnyRey
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          Yes, it's obvious Xbox One will play games. So that means MS was justified in not spending more time talk... : David Craddock
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            The xbox and ps4 will have the same games. The ps4 plays games, the same the x1 will, but without all the... : JohnnyRey
            • What about the "15 exclusive titles to Xbox One"? Would have been cool to see at least logos or companies... : Nerdsbeware
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              The PS4 has the same CPU, clocked the same, with more (7GB) and faster (5500MHz GDDR5 vs 2133MHz DDR3) me... : LoioshDwaggie
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                http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=30204684 : JohnnyRey
                • You're agreeing with me. I was stating that the 360 looked better than the PS3 on almost all multiplatfor... : LoioshDwaggie
            • I dunno if ms will have a similar service for streaming games like sony did with ustream, but that might ... : Chandler55
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            That presentation was not aimed at us. Right or wrong, that presentation was aimed at the media and Joe E... : mancide
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              My favorite argument since the presentation has been "They are only catering to COD and madden bros!!!" ... : Ambient80
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                yeah, that is one criticism thats kind of indefensible - those are the biggest selling single game series... : 60days
                • But if the argument is "Of course there are games" it also kind of stands that "Of course Madden and CoD ... : Rauol Duke
            • Internet hyperbole. I'm not "butthurt," I'm ambivalent. I know who MS targeted with their presentation. M... : David Craddock
          • Is it just me, or does the MS line about the XBONE (so far) somewhat resemble Sony's line about the PS3? : Arcanum
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          Show me games. Given that I dont care about cable TV and using internet explorer on my TV, show me somet... : disembodied potato
          • This is how I feel too. I'll probably pick up an XBone eventually but nothing is making me want to pick i... : ghost in my shell
        • prerendered scenes games! : mobab
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          I look forwards to the next ipad reveal being about how fast jam can slide down it, since we all know its... : 60days
          • A more apt analogy would be for them to show the new iPad's new features, whatever those may be. Does tha... : Ambient80
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        do you really think they're not focusing on games? : EvilDolemite
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          Not focusing? Yes. I think they're not focusing on games. Do I believe it will have games, absolutely. : LoioshDwaggie
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            so a company as large as microsoft with a division as large as xbox is unable to devote significant resou... : EvilDolemite
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              Given where the focus is at the system level, I think I'm not all that far off in saying that Sony appear... : LoioshDwaggie
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                i agree. we'll have to wait and see what that means in terms of resultant games (both in library and sel... : EvilDolemite
                • Yeah, I hope we'll see great uses of both systems. (and Last Guardian) : LoioshDwaggie
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                Where do you see that Sony is renting dev kits to developers for PS4? Only stories I can find were about ... : zebwinz
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                  From Jonathon Blow, he spoke about it a month ago. Sony contacted him and offered them a PS4 dev kit, whi... : LoioshDwaggie
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                    So Sony is giving cheap/loaner access to all indies? Or is it just courting certain developers. I woul... : zebwinz
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                      Sure, and we're all talking about perception, thats what this discussion is about. Anyone who's making d... : disembodied potato
                      • No dp, don't you understand that everyone criticising the MS press conference actually thinks the X-Box O... : peanut-
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          I'm talking about from a purely game marketing perspective. (An area in which I have some expertise) ... : Thornfist
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            Played far better to you maybe, but not the masses. : JohnnyRey
            • As I said. Game Marketing : Thornfist
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              Do you really think the masses were streaming that event? : greg-m
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                The only people who watch SpikeTV are roided out trucker cap bros in college or living in mom's basement. : Thornfist
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                  Or fans of Bar Rescue. That show's great! : OzzieMejia
                  • John Taffer dont take crap! : hirez
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                  In the middle of the afternoon on a Tuesday? Probably. But even those guys were probably watching The Pri... : greg-m
                  • greg-m you clearly did not taking marketing classes. Of course it makes sense to broadcast your big intro... : ghost in my shell
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                  Judge not, lest ye be judged, brother. : Deathlove
                  • I always found that line to be particularly ironic, since the bible is specifically about being judged. : Thornfist
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            That's my feel too. They had an 8 year anticipation built with one hour to make a first impression and se... : Rauol Duke
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              It was a televised event. For a mainstream audience, their obvious target, it was a pretty solid presenta... : brickmatt
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                The point I made when I replied to Ozzie though, is that while I understand that, the general public isn'... : Rauol Duke
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                  I don't think it's about preorders. I think it's about establishing their new vision to a mainstream as-y... : brickmatt
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                    That could be the case but look at the Wii U. It's flop of a rollout has set the narrative now for it. Th... : Rauol Duke
                    • You're already comparing the new Xbox to the Wii U? That's a bit premature. Hell, the PS3 spent most o... : brickmatt
                • You know, that Xbox opinion is exactly mine, and I thought I felt more excited than that, but seeing it l... : Deathlove
                • I think this is spot on. Microsoft is potentially creating the Godbox, but they're vulnerable in more ... : MercFox1
        • Their dashboard is covered in ads for other services. Kinect wasn't about our kind of games, but mommy's ... : thebigbeefsandwich
        • the technical details seems to suggested they're not as focused on games as sony. : gokart.
    • No they need it drilled it into their heads and thats it : et72
    • Just the fact that it will play games isn't enough. MS needs to be investing a lot of time and money to ... : Gwyndion
    • We were asked to comment on the event not speculate on what may come in the future. Sure it plays games b... : BeowolfSchaefer
  • Fuck. : eonix
  • I read this post in Cartman's voice. Then I saw your name. Nice character account. : Goblin au
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  Why do people keep saying this as if they can't understand what people are talking about when they compla... : disembodied potato
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    that was intended for johnnyrey btw. : disembodied potato
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      Because we don't. They unveiled the system and showed the new stuff that it does. It also plays games. It... : JohnnyRey
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        "it plays games. some of them are on ps3" isnt a very inspiring message. : 60days
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          obviously I meant ps4. : JohnnyRey
          • so did I actually, haha : 60days
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  I should also note that I heard back from dahanese after the fact. Didn't have time to get her quote in, : OzzieMejia
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    Man, mine is the clif notes version written on an iPhone and is lame by comparison :( : dahanese
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      Yeah, but you have an excuse. And I'm actually kind of envious, because you were on vacation while all t... : OzzieMejia
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        We watched it from the pool! : dahanese
        • haha - what did you guys watch it on? : ThomW
• I think the Xbox one is a great add for the PS4 my self the more i read the more i can not wait to buy a ... : Twin--Sword
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  Gamers are so myopic. I'm so ashamed to call myself one. So many misconceptions created out of thin air... : spiderfill
  • I think the situation is pretty clear judging from all the comments and articles posted explicitly statin... : 60days
• To me, looks cool. Or at least sounds interesting. The potential and like usual, the ideas and concepts, ... : DavePetro72
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  I was pretty disappointed in both presentations. But, today it kind of hit me. These really are becomin... : daggot
  • Sony didn't do that because they did it in the past with their PS3 reveal. They did the big 'it does ever : LoioshDwaggie
• Saw this coming: http://www.shacknews.com/article/78621/bloomberg-next-xbox-wont-be-backwards-compatible?... : bigimp
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  I thought it was good. I already know XB1 will own multiplatform/multiplayer games. It also has the super... : ultramega
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    People who are going for PS4 over the XB1 are NOT doing it "just for exclusives" ... They're doing it bec... : Demius
    • I bet Sony really invested in PS Vita integration for those... five PS Vita owners out there. : NickDelios
• Everybody (including me) seems willing to give MS a pass until E3. If they screw up the E3 conference th... : Gwyndion
• If I said that I would still rather have a PS2 describe how underwhelmed I am by the Xbox One. Why wou... : mountdreamer
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  The one part of the presentation that I didn't really understand, and I haven't seen much coverage of, is... : djdisco
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    undoubtedly there are going to be huge xbox live changes / improvements as well as cloud sharing of video... : EvilDolemite
    • It's not just for storage though, they talked about actual processing. It could be a end up being a big ... : Gwyndion
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      I'm hoping that they get a lot more specific about the new features for xbox live, since it seems that so... : djdisco
      • *It* could have offset.... : djdisco
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    There was a technical panel after the main panel where they talked to some of the architects who designed... : Gwyndion
    • It is using Azure, which is their PaaS ... which I think is a brilliant move. : johnhead
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      it seems like they're really coming at this from a software/distributed computing/cloud perspective, rath... : EvilDolemite
      • It could end up giving the console even longer legs if it works the right way. : Gwyndion
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      I take the entire 'offloading' thing with a huge pinch of salt. The only example I can think of where ... : Beady
      • The power in the cloud doesn't need to be mind blowing, it could just be the fact that it's something whi... : Gwyndion
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    presumably xbox live will run a lot faster, less hiccups during big game launches, etc. I really think Xb... : bozer
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      PSN evolved leaps and bounds since its launch. PS+ is pretty great and my guess is they're going to buil... : EvilDolemite
      • I don't think PS+ continues to the PS4, even Sony wouldn't confirm this at their event. I honestly think ... : mancide
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    Apparently the Xbone is 40x more powerful with the cloud and only 10x without it. Scroll to the bottom. ... : ghost in my shell
    • sounds like marketing bullshit. : EvilDolemite
  • Dedicated servers, perhaps? : Dave-A
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  Wow so delusional, Xbox will sell more day one. It's marketed to mass market not just gamers. It has excl... : finalSpart4n
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    how do you feel about halo's creator, bungie, making games for the playstation : Chandler55
    • ^This guy... Haha. <3 : tossitupdude
    • He can't respond. Lips still stuck in the O position from all the sucking. : kagath
  • The best selling game of all time is probably Angry Birds or some shit. Probably Wii Sports : ghost in my shell
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    Except it looks like the 360 sits at #3 behind the Wii and PS3 in sales. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co... : capt tripps
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      dude im talking about the biggest gaming market in the world which is United States of America. Xbox out... : finalSpart4n
      • Worldwide is more important than USA. : Mr. Goodwrench
      • Guys, facts can only be objectively discussed if you throw out all the ones that don't support my fanboy-... : BlackCat9
  • Tell me how good CoD is again. I always find your posts on that subject hilarious. : Mr. Goodwrench
  • I don't think any gamer gives a shit about which one sells more, they just want games, which is why so ma... : ovrlrd
• I feel pretty split about it. On the one hand, it's clear that they should have led with at least one gam... : BlackCat9
• In this last generation of consoles didn't some survey find that PS3 was used more for media and 360 for ... : tossitupdude
• Not that I really care too much what the Xbox One looks like, but holy shit that thing is hideous. I keep... : phipple
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  I am excited about the direction MS is taking. They have always said that they wanted to own the living ... : Wise Men
  • You sound like a tool. : BeefBus
  • what : OmegaRed59
• No doubt i will end up buying both eventually, but the PS4 looks like the better machine to me at the mom... : wiz1974
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  Suffice to say, with this generation of consoles, I will not be choosing an Xbox One or PS4 because of th... : squeakychimp
  • Agreed. You and I are on the same page. I understand that some gamers just want a "gaming console". I ... : Wise Men
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    Pretty much. The xbox will do everything the ps4 does in terms of games, and then it also does all this o... : JohnnyRey
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      The xbox will do everything the ps4 does in terms of games We can't assume this. Yes it will play the ... : Demius
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        They will both have their features which set them apart. The multiple simultaneous HD panes, the cloud c... : Gwyndion
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          the truth is we don't know what each console can do yet. We'll know more closer to when they're both rele... : Demius
          • For the most part, the hardware capability differences won't matter too much. Games on both systems will... : capt tripps
      • The indy game is a big one for me. I've been disappointed with the PS3 since I got one but hopefully the ... : sammyl
      • I guess you missed some details? http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/05/sony-ps4-streaming/ Yoshida : derelict515
    • But acting like a big faggot isn't something a lot of gamers are looking for in a console. : capt tripps
    • God, you're so full of shit. You've been raging at people all week not to make assumptions about the ... : disembodied potato
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    yep. if i want ultimate graphics i will have a PC. i want my consoles to deliver something my PC doesn'... : EvilDolemite
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      This is the thing that confused me the most about the shacks general response to the Xbox one. Most of us... : exigence7
      • Because the baseline console will determine the kinds of games that are created next generation. If one c... : disembodied potato
  • I would agree with you, right up until they revealed it would require using a separate cable box and an i... : ovrlrd
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    Being that Netflix, hbogo, and the rest require a Gold membership I don't see the value. My Nintendo and... : Pneum0
    • I see your point, but for those of us who are going to have gold memberships anyway it's a non-issue. : nakedsavage
  • what does the xbox do? it reroutes your tv and has streaming services/skype I really didn't understand wh... : Chipwarrior
  • This. I'll eventually get the ps4 when I can get it on sale for cheap : SAS_Ale
• http://www.itfgaming.com/opinions/what-does-the-xbox-ones-new-no-second-hand-games-policy-mean-to-you/ ... : uebersoldat
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  Ozzie, how do you pronounce your last name? Meh-hee-ah? : stuka
  • Yes. That's it. : OzzieMejia
• Haha more than ever I'm happy I game on PC. But if I didn't, there would be only one choice for the comin... : Thaii
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  "It's called XBox... ONE?!" o_0 -- Chris Remo, Idle Thumbs 107, 3 minutes 24 seconds. : the archvile
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    Okay, but what was he wearing when he heard it? : BlackCat9
    • I can't tell; the encoding bitrate is too low. : the archvile
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    do you remember the timestamps of these things as you listen? I see you rattle off marks from podcasts an... : jimmy_legs
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      No, I had iTunes open. I usually can remember the approximate location, as long as I can remember or der... : the archvile
      • nah whatever, not judging the use of time. I was just curious as you often have really specific times han... : jimmy_legs
  • lol that whole dialogue was pretty funny : Chandler55