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  this is a joke right? and there goes my interest in getting an X-Box One. : Corajitos
  • There's a market in putting "classics" we already own on sale again in five years. : BornAcorn
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    I totally agree. Fuck all those new games and features, the only reason i would buy a new console is to p... : alphablu
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      there are over 50 figures for Skylanders and two games. that series sold like hotcakes now the games wont... : cptstern
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        there's nothing stopping Activision from making a next gen Skylanders game that still uses the old figure... : derelict515
        • Well, they didn't announce it today, so obviously, it's not happening. : Deathlove
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          but the old games wont work and there's another one coming out in the fall : cptstern
          • and? welcome to new consoles : derelict515
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        Honestly, most of the kids who loved Skylanders will have moved on in a year, maybe two. They're toys, an... : evildanish
        • My son better never out grow his Lego sets. : VectorJKL
    • At least the WiiU plays all Wii content as well as VC content. That's just adding to the library of game... : RyDogg1
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      System Shock 2, playable on any modern day PC, released in August of 1999. That right there is one rea... : Corajitos
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        comparing apples and oranges : daroach1414
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          He's comparing backwards compatibility with backwards compatibility, so, no. : AxeMan808
          • he is also comparing ecosystems, so yes. : daroach1414
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            Yeah cause every PC game can easily be played without any hoops to just through to get working on a new s... : sasquatchxing
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              Well, I mean as opposed to there being no way at all to make it work. I guess they can remake it and sell... : AxeMan808
              • Fair enough. But the amount of people looking for it drops drastically after the first year, maybe two. ... : sasquatchxing
        • I like oranges more than apples. Holy shit, I just compared them! : MamiyaOtaru
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        This is a good point. I can play Wasteland right now, on the system it was made on/for. Also, I can impro... : AxeMan808
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          wait, Wasteland on PC, where!? How, I must play it! : Corajitos
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            He means the game from 1998. :D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasteland_(video_game) : Aldebrand
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              yeah, GOG doesn't seem to have it and I was hoping he would know of any other store fronts that might sel... : Corajitos
              • Oh, no, like original 3.5 disc. : AxeMan808
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                http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Ultimate-RPG-Archives-by-Interplay-12-RPG-Games-on-5-Great-Discs-Book-/330913... : sasquatchxing
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                  thanks! : Corajitos
                  • IIRC when wasteland 2 is getting released they are releasing one digitally. : sasquatchxing
            • Fuck, I mean the game from 1988! I need my morning coffee before I post on the Shack. : Aldebrand
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        I assume you've been investing in the PC instead of consoles forever then. Because that's pretty much alw... : derelict515
        • I know, I know. I was just expecting some sort of backwards compatibility due to the rumor from a couple : Corajitos
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      That's a ridiculous statement. I have a gaming backlog for my 360. Considering that most places would n... : Aldebrand
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        Of course its a ridiculous statement, it was sarcasm. My point stands, if your interest in the XBOX One i... : alphablu
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          Could it be, perhaps that I want to be able to play the games I haven't finished that I own and want to b... : Corajitos
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            well then your interest is not entirely gone then is it? : alphablu
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              Well...I haven't played either game in the last 5 months, and the last time I did play on the 360 I playe... : Corajitos
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                Look, you either have interest in playing these games, or you do not. What you are somehow implying and r... : Endymion_
                • you make some good points, but I think you and many replies have invested far more energy than necessary.... : Corajitos
            • The interest in the new console is..... because he can continue to play his old games without the new con... : TheNiXXeD
          • Imagine if the SteamBox 2 only played games released after the SteamBox 2 came out and none of your older... : Goto10
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          I think you're missing my point. I'm not interested in the One solely because of the backwards compatibi... : Aldebrand
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            No i get it, I never said YOU were, just that the OP appears to be. I agree with you. backwards compatibi... : alphablu
            • Oh, gotcha. :D. My bad, sorry! This is what I get for Shacking before my morning coffee. : Aldebrand
            • Oh, gotcha. :D My bad, sorry! This is what I got for Shacking before my morning coffee. And also for f... : Aldebrand
    • Way to miss the forest for the trees in your mad dash to successfully abuse sarcasm! Bravo! : wytefang
  • lol : daroach1414
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    do you own a 360? : moshman
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      I do, I have a couple of games that I haven't finished on it yet (Crackdown 2 and Halo 3, was going to ev... : Corajitos
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        so why do you need BC in the new Xbox? just keep your old 360 around till you finish them. : Korban
        • Yeah, an HDMI switcher or something would take care of it. If I had any desire to play old shit, I'd be i... : Entity
        • my point exactly. I know people will whine about having 2 consoles blabla. so then don't buy the new xbox... : moshman
  • Enjoy your Wii U. : Endymion_
  • Ditto. It killed the PS4 for me, and it looks like it kills the Xbox One for me too. Unless the media f... : Maarc
  • Probably be the first person to preorder : oneshot
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  I waited to hear the news, Ill get this later on. For now, WIiU and PS4. : rtricoche
  • Cant believe im saying this I usually pick it all up, but I haven't had a good experience with the box th... : rtricoche
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  Welp, so much for that forward-compatible built-in 360 chip rumor thing what was flying around. : Ajax
  • My thoughts exactly. : brickmatt
  • Yeah, it was so elaborate and detailed that it sounded true. I wonder where that came from? Maybe it wa... : Gwyndion
• Couldn't care less. : master_disaster_17
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  Not surprised. Unfortunately for MS I have a lot more invested in XBLA, so my motivation to upgrade is k... : ThomW
  • Yeah, agreed. I don't care about the disc based games but all of my downloadable games being unplayable o... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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    Wasn't Spelunky originally a PC game? : the archvile
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      Yeah but with a lot less features : Mecha Tofu Pirate
      • ^^^ what he said PC version is way less sexy. : ThomW
• I assume this includes XBLA games? What about full 360 download releases? : amrbean
• Honestly I only played one Xbox game on my 360 so this is a feature I'm not to sad to see go, especially ... : Halen
• It won't play Xbox 360 games, but it will play all Xbox one games on it. : deathofrats
• how much are you going to get for a 360 anyway, $50? just keep it around for the few times you want to pl... : EvilDolemite
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  Not all that bothered by this, no real reason to get rid of my 360. : Evil Benius
  • For me it's a kind of a stupid reason, but I really just don't have room in my entertainment unit for two... : Gwyndion
• Between this and the inability to rent games, it will probably be a long time before I buy into any of th... : thetangent
• Hmm... that sucks. I still have a lot of of 360 games I haven't finished yet and I really don't want two... : Gwyndion
• It's weird the first Xbox One didn't play 360 games either : kaddar0
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  well there goes any chance I'll buy any other game for my 360 ever. I have a ton of XBLA. : azenmaster
  • Yea, I feel the same way. Finishing up my backlog now, will not be buying anything else this year. : mancide
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  Has anything been said about what will happen to XBLA purchases down the line? : DrWaffles
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    Will not work with the new console. : Haku-Jin
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      LOL.....definitely passing on this console with that. Stupid, greedy fucking bullshit. : Wolfanoz
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        Are PSN games now going to work on PS4 as well? They both are abandoning their current system architectur... : Sailor of Fortune
        • At launch no. Supposedly the Gaikai streaming stuff will make them work. : mancide
        • The only hope for the future consoles may be an Onlive type setup where you can stream games for BC. I t... : Goto10
      • Eh, I can't really expect them to indefinitely support the older stuff. I'm just worried that I'll just ... : DrWaffles
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        there's nothing special about downloadable games. They're not immune to the same BC problems as a game on... : derelict515
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          Give me a break. You can't run an arcade game (pretty much a MAME-esque emulator) or Zen Pinball 2 on th... : Wolfanoz
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            If they were programmed for a different CPU architecture? No, you can't. That's how computer architecture... : derelict515
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              Yeah, but you can emulate almost anything can't you? Just simulate processes in software and then transl... : Gwyndion
              • That's not quite how it works. The performance overhead of emulation is massive. E.g. the xbox 360 back c... : uncleanmonkey
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                Emulation takes a lot of resources. It's unlikely the Xbox One cpu has enough power to sufficiently emula : evildanish
                • Wow, that's crazy. : Gwyndion
                • ^^^^^^^ : Halen
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                Look at the hardware requirements for a Wii or PS2 emulator on the PC. Notice the lack of PS3 or 360 emul... : derelict515
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                  I knew it took a lot of overhead to emulate something, but I figured this thing being 8 times more powerf... : Gwyndion
                  • yeah, it's crazy. But even if it was technically possible it'd still be a lot of hard engineering work fo... : derelict515
              • Sure, you can do anything, anything at all. The only limit is yourself. : Endymion_
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      Hm, with all of the VM tech theyre adding, would be nice if they ran a little XBLA emulator one :( : jimmy_legs
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        VM != Emulation : liqker
        • yeah I'm well aware, but stand by my original desire. : jimmy_legs
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  This sucks but it's not a deal breaker. Having BC is a check box for me into buying a console without wai... : ghost in my shell
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    It only really matters for most people, for that first year. After one year you are probably used to the... : Gwyndion
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      What does "most people" have to do with my opinion? Most people wouldn't try to steal a laptop from work ... : ghost in my shell
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        Well in terms of the life cycle of a console and the health of the company creating it, "most people's" o... : Gwyndion
        • http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=30200486#item_30200486 : ghost in my shell
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        Come on, you know I had to do that one. Anyway, I'm sure MS has the actual numbers now to proof how po... : ghost in my shell
        • The one thing I can say about backward compatibility is that it could have forced me to buy the Xbox firs... : Gwyndion
    • People who are done with most of the old 360 games a year after the launch of One either spent a crazy am : humbleone
• There's always so much new stuff, that I've never found myself wishing I could go back and replay somethi... : Entity
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  I think it's unfortunate. Not a deal-breaker, but unfortunate. : CampKusoge
  • Very unfortunate, but yea - I guess it is just a matter of having a backup 360 (or two) around. My main... : humbleone
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  So what are those 15k serversin the CLOUUUUUUUUD for? : GreatGooglyMoogly
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    it'll probably be used for stuff similar to what dark souls is doing with their games. the mmo but not re... : Chandler55
    • Typically that kind of stuff is handled by the developer/publisher. Not Microsoft or Sony. : Peanut Fox
  • oh man what if it was 1 big minecraft server with everyone on it. wouldnt that be INSANE : Chandler55
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  It's funny that you could always keep the old the old console to play the old games if you wanted to. : zeorhymer
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    But for how long? This generation of consoles can't be compared with the old stuff as far as that goes (d... : humbleone
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      Yeah, hardware build quality in general has gone down. My nephew was playing the NES that my sister and ... : the archvile
      • They probably could have gotten Onlive for $100 too considering how they are doing right now. : Gwyndion
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  This is one thing I don't give a shit about. People get really tied up on it but you I realized I never p... : soggybagel
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    Exactly. : Dave-A
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      People really got pissy about it last consoles too. How many times are you going to be like "FUCK MAN I J... : soggybagel
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        the only one I cared about was the lack of steel battalion. there really has been nothing lack that (f... : hamachi
        • Ha, exactly. Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor on the Xbox 360 was pretty terrible due to how mediocre the fir... : Parias
  • Yeah that's a total nonissue for me too. It always seems like something ill do. I don't. : Rauol Duke
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    Yep. I sold all my games to GameStop. Not a single fuck given.. I got so much money back I can buy the ne... : bozer
    • Yeah, but fuck Gamestop. You could have made even MORE at a yard-sale, Ebay, Craigslist,etc. Instead of c... : jimvolk
  • Yeah, I used to make a big deal out of it and then I looked back and realize how little used of a feature... : Halen
  • i care because of xbla : JINKY
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  Zero fucks given. I have my Xbox 360 to play Xbox 360 games. Whats the problem. : Sgt_Boomstick
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    Yeah, but 5-6 consoles take up a lot more space than 3-4...and its a pain to keep all t he stuff hooked u... : Vorlonesque
    • I don't play ps1 games or n64 games anymore. Why do I need 6 consoles hooked up? : Sgt_Boomstick
• Gamers will waste their money on next new console controller. That's pretty lame and Microsoft smells mor... : commanderxp90
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  In that case I'm in no rush to get an XBox One...I'll eventually get one, but its not going to be like la... : Vorlonesque
  • I'd add that with B/C I'd probably try to get one right when it came out because there's be no reason not... : Vorlonesque
  • Agreed on all points. For a while, I really got into my consoles, but I haven't really played anything o... : Thresher
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  ugh it annoys me that this is even a question that is still asked. how many new consoles have had BC? how... : theWhite
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    Nintendo 3DS and WiiU and the first gen PS3 were backwards compatible, so the question is valid. : deathofrats
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      Yeah I actually bought a first gen PS3 for the B/C...I knew they were phasing them out so I went out and ... : Vorlonesque
      • That was also a big part of my picking up the WiiU...it was a replacement for my Wii...not something that... : Vorlonesque
  • One very simple answer nails it: The PS2 was huge. : Endymion_
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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw&hd=1 : Godhatesfatpeople
  • Hahaha,sums it up well. TVTVTVTVSPORTSSPORTSCALLOFDUTYCALLOFDUTY. It's the Brah Box. : Visceral Monkey
• Was waiting for this info, I'll be switching to a ps4 just to mix it up since there is no reason to stick... : headbone
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  is a software emulator to much to ask for M$? i know it wouldn't work with all games, however it would ke... : TheBlackThunder
  • M$ : Chipwarrior