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    Steve Watts posted a new article, Remember Me rejected by publishers due to female protagonist.

    Remember Me's female protagonist Nilin made some publishers uneasy, both for sales and fears of making players feel "awkward" when she kisses a male character.
    Mar 19, 2013 8:15am PDT
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    Steve Watts posted a new article, Remember Me rejected by publishers due to female protagonist.

    Remember Me's female protagonist Nilin made some publishers uneasy, both for sales and fears of making players feel "awkward" when she kisses a male character. : ShacknewsThis person is cool!

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      This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. : wrecker77
      • I second this statement. : rtricoche
      • Same. This is so dumb. : funnynamehere
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      I hope this does sell, I don't mind a female protag when done right. Samus (sans other m), Lara Croft and... : snubble100
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        "I don't mind a female protag when done right." That's very gracious of you. : Alice O'Connor
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          Does what he said bother you in some way? : adamp117
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            Au contraire, he's very open-minded to allow female protagonists in his games. : dumb.
            • Yup, it's pretty big of him. : excite_mike
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            Video games with male protagonists done right: very few. The vast majority of male protagonists are rubbi... : Alice O'Connor
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              I would like to see less "dudebro" characters, and more "gentleman and scholar" characters, when it comes... : the archvileThis person is cool!
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                professor layton should star in every game! : jenisthebest
                • Agreed, a truer gentleman there never was. : snubble100
              • Really was a great game and went through much more emotions than a normal game, the only problem I had wi... : vortex6930
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              What do you think of FemShep and BroShep : DownforceThis person is cool!
              • Useless. Her Great and Mighty Samara is where true power is located. : AxeMan808This person is cool!
            • Disagreed. : deadhorse
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              So it's impossible for games with female protaganists to be 'rubbish'? It's insulting to imply that the c... : adamp117
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                The current track record of female leads does tend to agree with the idea that games with female leads ca... : EntityThis person is cool!
                • So this game must have been amazing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Blades : deathofratsThis person is cool!
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                It is possible for video games with female protagonists to be 'rubbish.' Given the state of video game ch... : Alice O'Connor
                • I just don't get how you are insulted by someone wanting better representation of how women are depicted ... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
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                  'Yes, it is insulting to imply that protagonists should only be female if they can be "done right." ' ... : adamp117
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                    I don't see Alice mentioning the oversexualization of female characters anywhere. Female characters sh... : Bamtan
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                      Yea "done right" leaves a lot to the imagination and can be interpreted in many ways. I agree with what a... : FuryVIIThis person is cool!
                      • I assume "done right" in his statement was more of a reflection on the immaturity in the industry in gene... : wfalcon
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                    because would you ever say "i don't mind a male protagonist when done right"? no, because male is consid... : jenisthebest
                    • I would say that there are already a wide diverse range of male characters in games, from nerdy silent pr... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
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                      I would say that. The original statement should've been "I don't mind a protagonist when done right". : sneakyalmond
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                        I still think Alice was overreacting. Yes all protagonists should be done right, but female protagonists... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
                        • Yes, but imo, because snubble's post was in reply to an article in which the sex of the character is the ... : sneakyalmond
                        • Is this a tiny penis joke? This feels like a tiny penis joke. : pixelat3dThis person is cool!
                      • Yes they should. : jenisthebest
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                    I think the sentiment is just that there should be more female characters, even if it means some of them ... : BlackCat9This person is cool!
                    • I see it as similar to someone saying "I don't mind having a female boss if she's good at her job." How ... : jenisthebest
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                I get the feeling everyone is unable to read Alice's post. Maybe I'm misinterpreting her. "I don't min... : Bamtan
                • The gender of a character should not be completely irrelevant, but is should not restrict the narrative p... : Firefly1985
            • Alice, serious question, so when a game like Metroid Other M is released where they completely spay her a... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
            • Maybe he meant it in the positive sense. As in not just putting a female character in a game and making h... : FuryVIIThis person is cool!
          • Was her point confusing for you to understand in some way? : HockeyJohnston
        • Right or wrong, female characters are scrutinized and aggressively criticized. Too sexy, plays to stereot... : LilCrypto
        • Jump the gun much? I don't get why you would have a problem with his comment. Are you ok with female pr... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
        • Wow, someone's looking for a fight. : uncleanmonkey
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        I think he meant he doesn't mind a female protagonist that developers don't sex up to raise... numbers. : David Craddock
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          I'm pretty sure Lara Croft was sexed up. When your boobs reach almost as far as your hand reaches, they ... : JodoMcFatty
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            Old-school Lara was interesting because she was sexy AND badass. That's the type of character, regardless... : David Craddock
            • Saints Row 3 had a penis size slider during character creation. : rodneystubbs
        • That is pretty much what I was trying to say. I should have elaborated a bit more on my thought and I apo... : snubble100
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        Don't forget Jade from BG&E, I thought Faith from Mirror's Edge was a decent protagonist too. : one random winner
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          Totally blanked on those. I loved both of those games and still hold out hope for sequels that may never ... : snubble100
          • Theoretically sequels for both are stuck in development hell. : one random winner
          • MIRROR'S EDGE 2 PLEASE!! : wrecker77
      • Also bayonetta was an amazing game. : catman1027
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      I fucking hate the game industry sometimes. : Rehevkor
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        It's no better or worse than other entertainment media... which isn't saying anything good. : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
        • NO BETTER OR WORSE : jim bone
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          Indeed. I'm trying to think of the last time I saw a movie with a female main character that wasn't large... : Vincent GraysonThis person is cool!
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            It still pisses me off that the director of the Silent Hill movie was pushing for an all-female cast (whi... : Rehevkor
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              that's the right call though. sean bean needs to be shoehorned into everything. : DownforceThis person is cool!
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                Hey, I'm all about the Bean too, but that character had no business being in the movie. : Rehevkor
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                  Seriously, he didn't even die. Why cast Sean Bean if you're not going to kill him? : Vincent GraysonThis person is cool!
                  • I know right?! : Rehevkor
          • Resident Evil series? : Captain Loco
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            Zero Dark Thirty. Wait... : the Scrivener
            • lol : AllYourBaseThis person is cool!
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            And most movies with male protagonists don't have a love interest? Even manly dudebro action movies tend ... : 6UnJ9Wn
            • Yeah, i dont think anyone is arguing that the film or music industry is ideal, things are definitely not ... : disembodied potatoThis person is cool!
          • Really? : disembodied potatoThis person is cool!
      • I can't speak specifically for these publishers, but it's usually not an immaturity or sexist debate, it'... : Sephiras
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      fishing for pity purchases : mortThis person is cool!
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        Yeah, as idiotic as what the one publisher said is, it does kind of sound like they're inflating that one... : dumb.
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          Agreed. You could play as a female and (gasp) have SEX with boys in Mass Effect; I reject the notion t... : hoboman725
          • they're fine with touching females. it's touching males that they're worried will scare off teenage boys : RikiTiki2
          • Word. And to tell ya the truth, I much prefer Fem Shep to male Shep. ... though I still slept with ... : wrecker77
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            I think the difference was that it was an option and not the only choice in the ME series. Plus all t... : Duffman8369
            • Good point : wrecker77
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            Why do we see so few female lead characters then? Also, although providing the player to choose gende... : disembodied potatoThis person is cool!
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              might have to do with sales. Yes Tomb Raider and Metroid did gangbusters, but tomb raider was mostly bec... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
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                Yeah, Jade from Beyond Good and Evil got screwed because they released it at the wrong time :( : one random winner
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                  another good example of a female protag driven game that didn't do well. I wonder if since majority of g... : deathofratsThis person is cool!
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                    It's issue was no marketing and releasing on three different dates (one for each platform) in holiday sea... : one random winner
                    • I should also mention the notable releases that came the two months before. September 4 Battlefield 19... : one random winner
            • there's also the difference between simply a protagonist who happens to be female, and a protagonist that : RikiTiki2
            • The industry needs more Lara Crofts. (The new one who takes an epic ass kicking for 20 hours) : EntityThis person is cool!
        • I thought this as well : rosewoodThis person is cool!
      • I had never heard of this game until this story. At least they're getting more notice? : ShivawnThis person is cool!
    • That story is as depressing as it is believable. : Sexpansion PackThis person is cool!
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      if i'm gonna play a video game character i may as well look at a chicks ass the whole time right guys !!! : xxiv
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        do the polygons turn you on? : Chipwarrior
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          woosh? : xxiv
          • woosh² : disembodied potatoThis person is cool!
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      Three of my favorite game protagonists in the past three years of games played have been women (Naija fro... : the archvileThis person is cool!
      • Publishers are the organizations of the gaming industry facing the brunt of pressure by capitalism to con... : 6UnJ9Wn
    • Boy, the evidence that publishers are run by morons is growing a lot lately. : Firefly1985
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      Are there reviews for this? I'm curious! : brickmatt
      • Reviews for the game? Not yet... comes out in June I think. : Nerdsbeware
    • What the fuck : askedrelicThis person is cool!
    • It doesn't matter who I'm playing really. IS THE GAME GOOD OR NOT?? :D KOTOR 1 female sith maurader g... : DownforceThis person is cool!
    • "No one lives forever" were amazing games : okellycThis person is cool!
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      Take it to Quickstarter. If it is a great pitch they will have zero problems funding it. Honestly, with t... : dfay
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        What? It's a AAA cross-platform game, it's being published by Capcom, their budget is probably $25 millio... : evildanish
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          I haven't read anything about the budget, but if I were in their shoes I'd rather work with a smaller bud... : dfay
          • I think it's pretty obvious from what they want to do that it can't be done on a shoestring budget. : evildanish
          • But.. they did as far as we can tell? They at first struggled to find a publisher that would take on ... : disembodied potatoThis person is cool!
    • Obviously these decisions were being made by shackers. : deadhorse
    • 'You can't make a dude like the player kiss another dude in the game, that's going to feel awkward.' W... : avatar_58
    • This isn't really a gender issue, publishers are always trying to suppress elements of their games that t... : 6UnJ9Wn
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      Fuck you publishers. These assholes are such a disease. If this turns out to be a great game, this wil... : jayacheess
      • "big name North American publishers" is a pretty sweeping statement : nwillard
    • TexasGameJunkie? : Bamtan
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      Any bets that this guy is overplaying it for publicity for a game I never heard of? : pigvomitThis person is cool!
      • Yea, for a game coming out in a few months there has been very little coverage on the game. Also it's not... : Nerdsbeware
    • I don't have the words to describe how fucking stupid this is. : thetangentThis person is cool!
    • Tomb Raider? Mirror's Edge? : aliasThis person is cool!
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      Oh for fucks sake >_< Hope these guys go for kickstarter/alpha-crowdfunding or the like :/ : Vogerl
      • Game comes out in June, it's pretty much done at this point. : Nerdsbeware
      • To raise 30 million dollars? AAA games = will stay publisher funded.... FOREVER : et72
    • The setting 2084 Neo-Paris has me intrigued. Could care less whether the main character is a woman. : Hilux SSRG
    • Where do they come up with this shit? Is there any data to support that games with female leads sell wors... : InfoBiterThis person is cool!
    • Publishers, Pull your heads out of your asses. : VoodooThursday
    • can't the developers go outside Saudi Arabia and try North American publishers? : devpaul
    • What the fuck?! It is so fucking annoying we have asshats like that in the industry who think they know ... : GwyndionThis person is cool!
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      The game is being published by Capcom so finding a publisher doesn't seem to have been a problem. Saying... : Mr Milquetoast
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        I would assume he was turned down by other publishers because of the female lead character until Capcom p... : jayacheess
        • I'd like to hear what the publishers have to say. Otherwise, it's a fairly one-sided story. Who knows i... : pigvomitThis person is cool!
        • It's also not the first such story. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/120558/InDepth_No_Female_Heroes_A : the archvileThis person is cool!
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      Game publishers in it for the money! News at 11! : Lucy LabiaThis person is cool!
      • I see what you did there : wrecker77
    • If I remember correctly, I thought I read somewhere that one of the things with this game was that there ... : DragonSire
    • Yeah, Mirrors Edge and Portal 1/2 were flops. .. What year are we living in? Welcome to 2013 idiots.. : surfrock22
    • 'You can't make a dude like the player kiss another dude in the game, that's going to feel awkward.' I... : darthfusion
    • Does it really matter? It's their choice, they're doing the publishing. Don't like it then don't publish ... : Curike