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    Garnett, please copy and paste my rant from last week about PC elitism/console-trashing on Weekend Confirmed for Xav's benefit. Crysis 3 on Xbox 360 is "like coming out of the sewer"? Right after you tried to take the high ground. I respect you Xav, but some of us really don't care if Crysis 3/Far Cry 3 is better on PC, because consoles are all we have. Do you really think that by trashing the visuals of console games over and over that you're going to lead us to some kind of spiritual enlightenment? All you're accomplishing is alienating a segment of your listeners.
    Mar 03, 2013 12:01pm PST
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    Garnett, please copy and paste my rant from last week about PC elitism/console-trashing on Weekend Confir... : RowjinZee

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      I agree with you here, minus one part: "... because consoles are all we have." No man, I don't "set... : CampKusoge
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        I'm with you Camp. I play a few games on my PC, DayZ is awsome, but I play most on my PS3 because I cho... : SwittersYoni
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          But then of course there's the whole "I can hook up a PC to my TV" argument. Really, the only reason t : RedSwirl
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            How about the part where you put the game in the console and it JUST FUCKING WORKS!? Like right away, lik... : CampKusoge
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              I really don't want to hop into another PC vs Console bitchfest so I hope the argument just ends with us : RedSwirl
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                Fair enough, but I do think you're overestimating the ease of use. And if anything does go wrong, woe bet... : CampKusoge
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                  If I had the time I'd take you over to a list I made of the best PC games that run on low-end systems. ... : RedSwirl
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                    But what you call "control over the games you buy," I would call "dumping your problems on the user." ... : CampKusoge
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                      Patches still happen on PC games though. It's not like a game comes out on all platforms and they just de... : RedSwirl
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                        I get what you're saying, but I don't think there's anything you could say to convince me that the benefi... : CampKusoge
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                          To me it seems like you have made these things seem more complicated in your mind than they are in actual... : Rvancetal
                          • It's entirely relevant how much more complicated they are in my mind, because they're my problems to deal... : CampKusoge
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                        To say that the certification process is a bad thing because it threatens developers' ability to solve pr : DevSword
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                          "DRM only exists in the PC space." Only if you take a definition of DRM that is so narrow that it beco... : HockeyJohnston
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                            No, only if you take DRM to be what it means which is Digital Rights Management. DRM hasn't even applied... : DevSword
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                              DRM is just corporate-speak for 'piracy countermeasure'. Like I said, you've just picked bad definitions ... : HockeyJohnston
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                                Pedantic mode: 'Digital rights management (DRM) is a class of controversial access control technologies t... : HockeyJohnston
                                • B-but ... wiki! DevSword, resident lovable wannabe pundit guy. : lumphrey
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                                  "Piracy countermeasure" is your adopted definition for the term. So you can use "DRM" as a generic term : DevSword
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                                    Can I play burned games on my 360 without modifications? : lumphrey
                                    • No because then you're copying the game. You can't burn a 100 of them and sell them for 5 bucks each eit... : DevSword
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                          Also look an Aliens Colonial Marines. If that game had gone through a proper certification process, it w : DevSword
                          • Here's the problem with your post: Aliens Colonial Marines DID pass a console certification process. Othe... : RedSwirl
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                          Christ man. I only used "DRM" as a word first of all. I didn't really mean it in a derogatory way. Consol : RedSwirl
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                            No, you said the only reason to buy a console is that high end PCs are expensive. Therefore consoles are : DevSword
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                              Well in the case of multiplatform games there's hardware cost, but if you already own a gaming PC, then t... : RedSwirl
                              • Right but not being able to replicate the game, or play it without the computer it was designed to run on : DevSword
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                As someone who has a high end PC, and has also had a 360 since launch. It's not just the cost of games. ... : Peanut Fox
                • Missing out on 3 and 4 isn't the end of the world. Not if I can really dig into the library for 1 or 2, ... : CampKusoge
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        Sorry, I'm in your camp too. I have a PC that is capable of running some games, and I even purchased some... : RowjinZee
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          I was just poking fun at my friend to get a laugh and rise out of him. I honestly don't care what platfor... : XAVdeMATOS
          • I guess my point is that not everyone has the same standard when it comes to visuals. I just recently sa... : RowjinZee
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          Exactly, but it's not just fussing and upgrading. The best thing about PC gaming right now, really, is ho... : CampKusoge
          • It's totally fine if you've tried out certain old PC games like Planescape Torment or Baldur's Gate and d : RedSwirl
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            Some of these comments are embarrassing to read. You come off as a major fanboy. Maybe it's just becau... : lumphrey
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              I frustration with PC gaming does not come from a place of not trying them. I've been a console and ar... : CampKusoge
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                I'm actually going to agree with you to an extent on usability. The problem with PCs is they aren't terri... : lumphrey
                • You make a lot of fair points, but I'd like to back up a little. My original post in all this mess was... : CampKusoge
              • "Maybe the PC gaming community has changed their tune about this, but last time I checked in, the simplif... : HockeyJohnston
    • now you know how I fell during all the episodes where all they talk about are console games. Some of us d... : jccalhounThis person is cool!
    • In answer to what I think is are genuine questions out of all of this (one came up before in the PS4 disc... : MononokeTeapot
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      The underlying myth about the PC is that it is the platform for "graphics whores" or elitists. The PC is : DevSword
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        Let's not talk about Half Life 3. How about just another game period? The last game they released was t... : Peanut Fox
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          Didn't Portal 2 come out after Alien Swarm? But your point stands. Valve seems to be mostly focused on im : RedSwirl
          • Dota2 and TF2 are both being very actively worked on. People who have a bias towards single player games ... : HockeyJohnston
          • You're right. Portal 2 was 2011. : Peanut Fox
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        The thing is Steam creates a back library of PC games that are easily accessible to you throughout time w... : Rvancetal
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          Of course he could go back and point out GOG -- a digital distribution platform entirely focused on selli... : RedSwirl
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            When I say strong and unique brand identity, I'm talking about something like "Good Old Games." Steam do... : DevSword
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              Should a platform have a "brand" though? I'm of the opinion that the more software a platform has, the be : RedSwirl
              • Go back to my original post. The whole point of me commenting on PC vs console was to point out that on ... : DevSword
              • Also, if somehow Valve succeeds in making Linux a popular alternative that A. developers will support and... : DevSword