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    Was it really services that got the Xbox in the living room... I don't think so, services where simply extras that you could use. What got the Xbox to homes was momentum aka if you wanna play games with your friends they had xbox's not ps3's, and it was gears, halo, then CoD.

    Sony hasn't produced a "elite" multiplayer game. MS has 2, which if you look at Nintendo 2 is all it takes (Mario, and Zelda). The last thing you want from a game is to be ok buy utterly forgettable and that's Sony right now. So if you have friends and like multiplayer what are you going to do, play kill zone yawn, no your waiting for gears, and halo. Then you also get destiny and CoD.
    Feb 22, 2013 1:52pm PST
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    • I buy that to a certain extent, but services are a huge deal now. I know a reporter who has no interest i... : RomanMF
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      Agreed, and let me add a point: are Halo and Gears elite anymore? The biggest change between last gen ... : HockeyJohnston
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        As much as I personally have moved on from those titles. In the last 2 holiday seasons they both passed 5... : Mysssss
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          That's all true relative to Sony, but the prominence of Halo/Gears relative to all other kinds of multipl... : HockeyJohnston
          • If you mean they're 2 and 3 on the list relative to CoD yes. The landscape hasn't changed much more then ... : Mysssss
        • Sony doesn't have any elite class games but why do these sales figures say other wise. Gears of War 3 ... : tightestjeans
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      Those games got the console into homes. The services got the rest of the family using the device and spr... : SinisterInfant
      • Certainly, but those service sell to those consumer much, much later. When the console is much cheaper, g... : Mysssss
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      It wasn't "services" as in streaming video, it was Xbox Live and the concept of a unified platform. What : DevSword
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        And none of that stuff mattered cause MS didn't have the games over Nintendo. Wii sports outsold all the ... : Mysssss
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          The reason Halo 3 itself sold a lot of copies is because of Xbox Live. Sony put out 5 first person shoot... : DevSword
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            Then why'd halo sell a lot of copies? No Xbox live but yet it sold great. Wii sports didn't have a great ... : Mysssss
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              Because when Halo 1 came out there wasn't a service like Xbox Live on any console. Why didn't the origin... : DevSword
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                Having great games is how it works. Wrap your head around this the console with the worst online service ... : Mysssss
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                  No the console that cost half as much as the other consoles, and appealed to the broadest demographic out... : DevSword
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                    Doesn't change the fact worst service finished first. And Wii fit is just one piece of software, not ment... : Mysssss
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                      Right but Wii Fit was a system seller for the Wii. The Wii sold the most units because of games like Wii... : DevSword
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                        Best selling games on the Wii 1. Wii sports 2. Mario kart 3 resort 4. Wii play 5. New super Mario br... : Mysssss
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                          No it isn't. He said Wii Fit sold Wii's and it did. End of Discussion. : Rvancetal
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                            It was the implication that non games sold the Wii and that was its sole source of success that was disin... : Mysssss
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                              All the games you listed above were of a similar form to Wii Fit except for Mario Kart. That says somethi... : Rvancetal
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                                No Wii fit is not similar, Wii fit is not a game it's exercise equipment. Those others are actual games..... : Mysssss
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                                  No, what I said was that Halo 3 sold 360s, but people wanted to play Halo 3 because of Xbox Live. I mean... : DevSword
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                                    I never argued that psn was a better service, but I would say people bought halo 3 because halo is a awes... : Mysssss
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                                      No I'm saying that Xbox Live is an essential component to Halo 3's appeal, and thus to the Xbox 360's app... : DevSword
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                                        See CoD did create a new way to play FPS that's where the true success came from. Before they reinvented ... : Mysssss
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                                          No they didn't really, they just went multiplatform and threw a ton of money behind it. The PS3's exclus... : DevSword
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                                            Saying that just show your biased CoD MW changed the landscape of FPS. every FPS that comes out to this d... : Mysssss
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                                              You're missing the point which is that CoD's idiosyncratic design traits are arbitrary and incidental to : DevSword
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                                                No your missing the point, the point is its not the service it's the games. You've presented nothing that... : Mysssss
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                                                  Again, I didn't say "service sells games by itself." I said service is an essentail part of platforms' a : DevSword
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                                                    Wrong millions of people got a interest in origin once KotoR released then they lost interest in KotoR. : Mysssss
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                                                      An MMO is a service. You literally pay a monthly subscription for it. : DevSword
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                                                        You pay to play the game. By your logic Mario is a service because Nintendo provides the goombas, and you... : Mysssss
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                                                          Here's the thing you can't name on successful service that doesn't have a great game backing it. I can na... : Mysssss
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                                                            I can't and I wouldn't because once again that's not what I've argued. MMOs are an entire genre built on... : DevSword
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                                                              It's not about MMO's they where brought into the conversation only to show interest in orgin picked up be... : Mysssss
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                                                                No, you pointed out how Kotor is an example of a game that made Origin popular despite not having service... : DevSword
                                                                • That's not a service that's a expected, like cars running on gasoline at a point that's just expected. I... : Mysssss
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                          Only two of those titles aren't mini game collections, and those all sold at double Super Smash Bros and ... : DevSword
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                            Mini games are games, its just a preference which isn't the issue we are discussing. Bowling alone is as ... : Mysssss
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                              You are trolling right now, please be trolling right now. : Rvancetal
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                                No I'm not I took 2 of my favorite games both of which are not that deep gameplay wise, but that does not... : Mysssss
                                • "are not that deep gameplay wise, but that does not change their quality." lol : DevSword
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                The original Xbox didn't have the best game GTA that's why it didn't sell. : Mysssss
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                  You can still buy it. Only $5.00 http://www.gamestop.com/xbox/games/grand-theft-auto-iii-used/30871 : DevSword
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                    Wow really you just playing stupid or are you actually stupid how long was it exclusive to the PS2 before... : Mysssss
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                      I'm fucking with you because I don't think you're capable of a sincere debate. You're a troll and will c... : DevSword
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                        Wow you just described yourself using Wii fit as the base of your argument against the Wii being purchase... : Mysssss
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                          Wii Fit is emblematic of the Wii because its like an interactive weight scale. Most of the titles in the... : DevSword
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                            This whole post is wrong, DS. :) : HockeyJohnston
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                              How is it wrong for the DS? What made the DS go WIDE was not the software people expected from a Nintendo... : Rvancetal
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                                DevSword, not Dual Screen : HockeyJohnston
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                                  If you're offended because there are games on the Wii that you like to play that aren't mini games, then ... : DevSword
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                                    You call it superficial, I call it elegant. I *liked* all that local multiplay stuff and think Nintendo d... : HockeyJohnston
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                                      Its to their benefit, and yes it is market savvy, and I think they should have continued down that route ... : DevSword
                                      • Wii Sports is, in my opinion, a much better game than the other two. Game of the gen, really. : HockeyJohnston
      • Amen, you nailed why I am fucking hyped for this console. : Rvancetal