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  Here's my take. I think its OK at best. I still wouldn't rush out to pre-order this just yet. And no - it... : frdranger
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    i'm with you. i was interested in some sort of second screen technology, like i wish the wii u tablet wa... : ibrokn
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      ??? That's exactly what the Wii U tablet does. : Grape Flavor
      • Yeah but games and power : A10Pilot
  • the emphasis on social/sharing is because they got destroyed in the online space by Microsoft in the curr... : grendel
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    I don't think the graphics leap will be as much as people are thinking this time around. : Derringer
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      Initially it'll look a little better than current gen. In two years when publishers stop making versions... : one random winner
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        Sweet ramble bro : reelbk
        • If I could, I'd be a professional rambler, I'm pretty good at now, but I would do it professionally. Ano... : one random winner
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      Some of those demos were supposedly running on a PS4 prototype and they were FAR above what we are seeing... : Gwyndion
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        I've heard that and if the Deep Down demo was really real time, I will proudly rescind my statement. T... : Derringer
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          People have terrible memories. Aside from the jump to HD, the first run of 360 and ps3 games were really... : disembodied potato
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            I remember Gears 1 blowing me away pretty good - IGN.com : derelict515
            • I remember Gears 1 blowing me : Thornfist
          • Fortnite will probably likely be the first Unreal 4 game. : TheEmissary
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          Sony has never spewed so much bullshit as they did for the PS2. They were at their bullshit prime at tha... : Gwyndion
          • YES. THIS GUY. Upvote. Like. Whatever. I'm constantly surrounded by Sony FanBoi's to this day claim the P... : macdude22
  • The is just a factor of what is being improved. Killzone 4 was running at 1080p, a signification jum... : cetra00
  • Its the same with pcs to be honest, too much useless stuff i dont need. I should just not bother. : disembodied potato
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  it's amusing; i remember analysts saying that MS launching the 360 so early (and before the PS3) was a ba... : EvilDolemite
  • I was thinking I remembered the same thing... : tossitupdude
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    And I'm pretty sure even Sony said a few months back that they were in no rush to release this year and w... : Gwyndion
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      do you really believe that? A few months back they'd have already had this event on their development sch... : derelict515
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        I remember reading it somewhere and it was a statement from Sony themselves. Honestly, I think it was ju... : Gwyndion
        • right, I just meant it was likely your first explanation : derelict515
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  I don't think cost will be such an issue this time around since they're likely using more common componen... : satsun
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    Agreed. I'm pretty sure the reason the PS3 was so expensive at launch was because of the cell processor a... : frdranger
    • Backwards compatibility is what made it stupid expensive (and part of that has do with the choice of the ... : granpachook
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  I doubt a lot of million of consumers will buy the Playstation 4 than 720 xbox because the xbox will bloc... : commanderxp90
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    what : master_disaster_17
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      does anybody here speak jive : [fry]
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        You's know ah' do, Fry. Slap mah fro! It be a skill learned ova' a life time wid meanin'ful implicashuns. : sogelegos
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          Above post brought to you by Jive Translator. http://www.luketillo.com/jiveluke.html : sogelegos
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            Dude, you are being rude to me. I'm an hearing impairment and I do not have perfect English grammar. You... : commanderxp90
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              what a weird day in the chatty lol : pgharavi
              • What? This was my first mistake to post. O_o : commanderxp90
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              I did not intend to be rude. I was responding to [fry]'s post above. How about I rewrite your post above ... : sogelegos
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                Follow-up: "Dudebro, you are being rude to me. I have a hearing impairment, and as a result, my gramma... : sogelegos
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                  Awesome, smart-panty man. I do barely use my English grammar, but I know most hearing people have better... : commanderxp90
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                    I think you meant smarty-pants, but honestly, smart-panty man is much funnier. I do not know the exte... : sogelegos
                    • Have you considered a future in politics? : Topsiderover
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              I'm respecting at you right now. : taylorwp2
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                With my pants off : Thornfist
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                  What a smart-panty man. : sogelegos
                  • Yeah, I am just lame at writing grammar on English. Someday, I get better writing when I have a time to ... : commanderxp90
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              My cousin has a pretty severe hearing impairment yet she managed to learn grammar about as well as anyone... : Herman Toothrot
              • I'm thinking English might be his/her second language as well. : Hiro
            • Hahaha, this is amazing. : thetangent
          • lol this thing is great : alexpr
      • HAHAHAHA : disembodied potato
  • The only way that plan would have worked is if Sony did it as well. Since that doesn't look to be the cas... : mancide
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    Exactly my point! Sometimes a million of a people will aint be so gooder! : Rauol Duke
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      In my opinion, consumers won't buy the next generation of xbox because the xbox would have block used ga... : commanderxp90
      • "In my opinion, consumers won't buy the next generation xbox because the xbox may block used games. Peopl... : sogelegos
  • "I doubt millions of consumer would buy a Playstation 4 over an Xbox 720 because..." and that's as far as... : Ambient80
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    I should have edit this sentence before check it twices time. : commanderxp90
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      I got nothin'. : sogelegos
      • You were defeated : Dave-A
  • Are you Yoda? : BeowolfSchaefer
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  my master plan that is very complicated and unique is that i'm going to buy both consoles when they come ... : [fry]
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    I've posted this too much today, but I'm not buying the next Xbox till the hardware proves stable. : one random winner
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      eh i had a 360 red ring on me and they had a replacement out in a couple of days. i ain't worried. : [fry]
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        I boycotted the 360 this entire time based upon shoddy hardware, so I'm a little more extreme than most i... : one random winner
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          that's a great way to not play videogames. : pgharavi
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            Having 2 kids in 16 months is also a great way to not play video games :/ : Thornfist
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              It could be worse. You could have had 16 kids in 2 moths. : pgharavi
              • *slowly raises revolver to his temple, tearfully wishes this world goodbye and pulls the trigger until it... : Thornfist
          • I play on just about everything else and don't even have time for most of the games I would've gotten on ... : one random winner
        • Likewise. Didn't buy a 360 because of the RROD. : BlobbyPantsJones
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    Word. I hope I have room in my entertainment center for AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL these expens... : Rauol Duke
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      It might sound lame but that is a big reason for me only buying one console. I don't have room for two. : Gwyndion
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        how big is your TV? : pgharavi
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          It's not my TV, it's my entertainment unit and my hate of clutter. : Gwyndion
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            So you do have room, you just don't want the clutter? : grendel
            • Both. Right now the shelves under my TV are pretty full, my 360 sits right next to my TV. With one more... : Gwyndion
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            Doesn't everyone have an auxillary entertainment unit for the obselete/classic consoles? : jtthe2nd
            • I don't yet. I plan to finish my basement then I'll set up all my old consoles there. : Gwyndion
  • I'm with you! : Simulacrum
  • Yep. Slap a Ouya next to them while we're at it, because for $99, why not? : freakynipples69
  • ballers itt : feek
  • race traitor : Marrbe
  • This will be me in the end haha : Derringer
  • Ditto : jasenmp
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    I will stick with the PC master race and probably get a PS4 next year. : ant_hillbilly
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      are you some kind of nazi or something? : dantastic
      • This has been going on for quite awhile now: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me0la7Kr9w1r8l11jo1_1280.j... : eyetyrant248
    • Hallowed are the Gaben. : Mr. Goodwrench
  • slow the fuck down maverick : gmd
  • That has worked for me with this generation of consoles, no need to change now - I'm in! : guitarsandbikes
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    WHAT A PIG YOU ARE TO HAVE NO BRAND LOYALTY : Ajax
    • ...or perhaps you're one of those people that just enjoys playing games regardless of the system they're ... : Ajax
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    YOU CRAZY HETHEN : virus
    • That's what I did with the ps3 and the 360. And the wii. And my PC. : virus
  • i will probably get one of the 2 at launch and the other later on down the line but i haven't figured out... : dantastic
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    Fry I will do you one better. I'll buy both, upgrade my PC, and play games on the Wii U that we already ... : .frame
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      i was gonna save for a PC upgrade but if the next gen consoles are coming out in the fall, my money is pr... : dantastic
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        Until you have to replace it three times. : Mr. Goodwrench
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          never going to have parts in your pc that need replacing or upgrading in 8 years? hopefully they still m... : dantastic
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            Stick with what works for you : Pneum0
            • words of wisdom : dantastic
        • Do you equate replace with buy? Who has to buy the same console three times? If not, who cares? : jake
  • I'm with you. I'd also like it if we could introduce the red ban hammer for pc master race discussion... : disembodied potato
  • You shall have my controller : commando_lando
  • Same. : dmaownsyou
  • Yep, that's what i'm doing. : deveus1
  • It's worked for me the last 20 years, why stop now? : Dimmona
  • Fuck yes. This isn't Genesis vs. SNES and I'm not 12 anymore. I want to play ALL the best games. : node
  • Sadly no [fry] I came to realise recently, yes I can easily afford all 3 consoles, I can not afford the t... : abrasion
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    Nah, probably just PS4 for me. Unless MS has secured exclusives (read, not on PC either) that interest me... : Vincent Grayson
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      The Xbox failed to produce exclusives which interested me long term, Fable I loved and it slowly turned t... : abrasion
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        Crackdown. CRACKDOWN. Won't happen again, but CRACKDOWN! : jimmy_legs
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          If they show off an insanely juiced up Crackdown 3 with crazy physics and shit, I'd be all over that. : (mojo)
          • I will lose my goddamn mind if that happens : jimmy_legs
      • I could only come up with 2 reasons I wanted one, and that's just not enough (blue dragon and shadow comp... : granpachook
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      Having both give you the ability to get a game on whatever console runs it best though if they systems ar... : Herman Toothrot
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        I had both for a while this generation, and I think the only time that came up for me was Bayonetta. I su... : Vincent Grayson
        • Bayonetta was a big deal! : Herman Toothrot
  • I will most likely wait for a price drop on the next XBox and in the meantime enjoy my awesome PC and 360... : thetangent
• Since it's likely we see the next Xbox this same Holiday season, I doubt first to market means much this ... : mancide
• It will be good for the whole industry to step up the tech level. I don't really care which pony wins in ... : thebigbeefsandwich
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  So of the new features, it's obvious the social functions are what Sony thinks are important. Are they... : Thresher
  • what were you hoping for exactly? I mean, as far as games go they showed the specs and beefed up hardware... : derelict515
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  guyz, Carmack has spoken: https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/304607913853476864 : ThrillKill
  • game over microsoft : gdestiny
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  man not only does the Wii U have to compete with 2 other consoles, they now have to compete with 2 other ... : Chandler55
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    yep, but Nintendo has a ton of experience just doing their thing. they sell the console at a profit, and ... : thebigbeefsandwich
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      they took a per unit loss out of the gate this time though for both the Wii U and 3DS. They're in the cle... : derelict515
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        I guess they felt ballsy rolling in Wii money... but it looks like they're going to settle into a clear 3... : thebigbeefsandwich
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          Your definition of "3rd place again" must not account for the Wii outselling both the 360 and the PS3 by : capt tripps
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            attach rate is the rest of the story. i'm pretty sure the wii's attach rate is the weakest of the three. : EvilDolemite
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              While the weakest, the difference isn't necessarily as far apart as you might think. This is the most re... : capt tripps
              • factor in online service revenues too http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-07/xbox-live-sales-probabl... : derelict515
          • Wow i had no idea the PS3 Eventually outsold the Xbox. Interesting. : Vincenoir
          • Aware of that, that's what I meant by "Wii money." This generation though they have no compelling way to ... : thebigbeefsandwich
  • Same thing that happened for the last 12 years. : shirif
  • They'll make them where they can make money. If Wii U gets it's shit sorted as far as install base goes i... : BlobbyPantsJones
  • um, the specs on the next gens are well beyond the Wii U : hillemania