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  I don't understand. : cyclonebee
  • Gamefly needs ad view revenue... : mancide
  • They want to see you naked and picking your ass. : Wolfanoz
• Wow... this thing is getting further and further from a 'buy' for me... : Clasifyd
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  About damn time! This will lead to some really awesome titles. : greenbergMD
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    it's not better with kinect : gmd
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      Giant Metal Dog, why must you hate on anything that is new and different? : greenbergMD
      • He does drive a corvette. : not work safe
      • I don't hate it, I just don't have the room for it. Unless they can account for a shallow depth of field,... : Home Nugget
    • current kinect, sure, but we need kinect to keep evolving : RikiTiki2
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      That's not what drunk girls say : Halen
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        what a stupid reply Halen : gmd
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          I'll remember your post when I'm watching hot topless girls playing Dance Central : Halen
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            Even dumber. : gmd
            • kinect raped your wife and murdered your children : Halen
          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=H0SqqaG7OMY#t=53s : 60days
      • I have to agree! I have had some parties ;) : supermonkeyballz
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  If M$ requires a power cable as well, they can count me out. : pgharavi
  • I doubt it. Even in the recent version of the current 360 has a Kinect port which also gives it power. : Gwyndion
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  could i actually switch back to a playstation!? : multisync
  • I know, right? It's weird I'm even thinking that. : brickmatt
  • They delivered the better console and exclusives this time round, why not next?! : abrasion
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  I really hope most of these rumors end up being false. I quite enjoy my 360 but if they're going to forc... : Zips
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    They're forcing it down your throat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... : chepito_
    • •quackquack* : Dave-A
  • Like when Mass Effect 4 drops? : greenbergMD
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  Seems like Microsoft is looking to squander the video game gains they made this generation. Seems like t... : cetra00
  • traditional* : cetra00
• nonononono : gmd
• lol, and people talk about nintendo "gimmicks" : AllYourBase
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  Hey, cool. I look forward to my PS4 purchase. : TylerJSmith
  • New leaked information: PS4 games will require a move sensor to be visible at all times. On the player's : gaplant
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  that's fine. traditional core games will likely stay the same with optional kinect enhancements. they'r... : EvilDolemite
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    If the price is competitive, I don't see why people wouldn't buy a console that also included the Kinect.... : mancide
    • i don't know why people seem bothered by it. there's been no announcement about any type of required int... : EvilDolemite
  • yeah, they really wound back kinect "features" in AAA titles towards the end to the ones that really soli... : kiddygrinder
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    i dont really think thats what the big problem is. honestly, who cares if it just comes /w a connect con... : granpachook
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      Just what in the sam hill are you even talking about? : Herman Toothrot
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        Uh, this thread? Kinect has to be hooked up and calibrated to use the console. If Kinect is broken, conso... : Nixx2004
        • He's talking about the kinect somehow getting stepped on and broken, I'd love for someone to draw me a pi... : Herman Toothrot
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  yah screw that... Kinect won't work in my space really. Not enough room for it. : Shadowdane
  • I do hope the new one has a wider field of view. The current Kinect takes a ton of room to use properly. : Modulus
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  its going to spy on us : ultramega
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    I understand that you might be using sarcasm, but I completely agree with the words of your comment. W : atomx_xmota
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      what are they going to spy on, us sitting on the couch staring at a screen? : EvilDolemite
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        What makes you think that the camera will only be looking at the couch, or the microphone will only pick ... : atomx_xmota
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          what kind of information do you think "they" are interested in from our living rooms? : EvilDolemite
          • the largest penis size database ever! : Kub666
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            Did you even read my reply? The camera may only be able to see to a wall, but sound carries. And if you... : atomx_xmota
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              So don't buy a new Xbox if you think the government is going to watch you play Call of Duty. : chepito_
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                Does it sound like I'm even remotely interested in getting an Xbox? The larger concern is the social e : atomx_xmota
                • I totally agree with you. Alot of people are so ignorant. It's alot easier to say they would never do suc... : That Phat Dude
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                  Oh good the slippery slope argument. You tape a piece of paper over your laptop webcam also to prevent... : sasquatchxing
                  • No. I turn off my webcam when I don't want to use it. The slippery slope argument is not automaticall... : atomx_xmota
            • I'm not saying I can visualize your hairstyle, but I can visualize your hairstyle! : xylothan
            • Trust me, no one gives that much of a fuck about you. : Herman Toothrot
            • They'd just use your fucking cellphone. : JHelgie
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        Renting a movie to watch with your wife and kids? That'll be an additional $5 per person, please. /s,... : TylerJSmith
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          there is actually a patent for that right now. : EvilDolemite
          • Yeah, hence my lack of enthusiasm. Time to permanently rejoin the PC master race from its current part ti... : TylerJSmith
        • The applications that do the most rental business on the Xbox exist on too many other platforms without a... : Halen
      • I don't know what they're intending to watch, but i'm going to blow kisses to it while I fap. : pixelat3d
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        complaining about the guvnment : Kub666
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          I think it's fascinating that the "tinfoil paranoia" is about the government, when the more likely use is : Bold
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            Perhaps. But money talks. It may be worth the risk if the price for the gathered information is right. ... : atomx_xmota
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              where are they going to store this recorded data? will your ISP notice an egregious amount of uploads? ... : EvilDolemite
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                It'll be no different from sending packets with any online game. Your ISP isn't going to care. It's not : atomx_xmota
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                  Games don't send actual video and audio streams. Do you have any idea how much data you're talking about... : Herman Toothrot
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                    Yeah, I do know how much data I'm talking about. Audio quality not better than a telephone. 2 frames a : atomx_xmota
                    • Why wouldn't this have already happened with your cell phone that's already an entire network designed wi... : Herman Toothrot
              • Oh! And storing your data? Think Google, Facebook, any other social networking site... Terabytes of p... : atomx_xmota
            • EULAs aren't really enforceable in a court of law. I mean, you could put in a clause that makes you give... : 0mar
          • Taking Bonghits here comes a Dorritos add! : hashd
      • Fapping at porn : mobab
      • -Jerking off -Petting your cat inappropriately -Arguing with your stupid wife -yelling at your kids -... : et72
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      What kills me is how willing and nonchalant we are about it all. In the name of entertainment or convenie... : brickmatt
      • Hear! Hear! I made the same point above, which was nonchalantly brushed off just like the issues this : atomx_xmota
    • On a scale from 1 to Gary Busey, how high are you right now? : Joseph
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      You didn't step up to the paranoia edge, you took a running leap off it with a wingsuit and are soaring a... : Herman Toothrot
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        Also holy shit dude the first thing that happens when a new piece of hardware comes out is that geeks rip... : Herman Toothrot
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          Are you saying you're willing to drop $600 (or wtf ever) on a brand spanking new Xbox 3.141596... and tea : atomx_xmota
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            so what is your solution? Our dreams have always been filled with science fiction tech of computers that ... : derelict515
            • Yeah, so I replied to your auditing comments in the thread below. That's a straw man and you aren't look... : atomx_xmota
          • I don't have to tear down my own device in order to watch or read a teardown of someone else's. There ar... : Herman Toothrot
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      I love this post. It's got just enough crazy to be dismissed by some, but it's not outside the realm of ... : Pneum0
      • So... reality in a nutshell, then. : atomx_xmota
    • you're a hilarious lunatic : Chipwarrior
  • To join the tinfoil hate people, no it's not but it IS going to get us used to having the camera always o : abrasion
  • Put a lens cap on it? : greenbergMD
  • http://i.imgur.com/ua69Bue.png : ThomW
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    It really does sound like the "telescreen" from 1984. You can never turn it off; you can only turn the v : the archvile
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      why don't you already feel this way about every webcam equipped laptop, tablet and phone? : derelict515
      • this is the archvile we're talking about. he probably does : electroly
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        I'm not a fan, but there's a very real difference in that I actually control the software that controls t... : atomx_xmota
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          assuming they haven't subverted your ability to do that. And what about your phone/tablet? : derelict515
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            That's the point of free software: the user is in control. Because I can access the source code, I don't : atomx_xmota
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              I can see this is going to go nowhere with how hardline you are about these concepts. Reality is most big... : derelict515
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                I pick my battles. I avoid using Google's apps, especially since there are free alternatives. I don't n : atomx_xmota
                • I pick my battles. I avoid using Google's apps, especially since there are free alternatives. I don't nee : derelict515
      • I keep my cameras covered and no I'm not joking : That Phat Dude
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        Because those devices still work when the webcam is off. : Lucy Labia
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          how do I turn off the cameras on my iPhone? : derelict515
          • you could just put a piece of tape over it honestly if you were that paranoid that it might be on even if... : Lucy Labia
    • It sounds like it so much that it does none of the specific things you mention! : Halen
  • You are being watched. The government has a secret system: a machine that spies on you every hour of ever... : Starchy
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  Why would they even think about doing that? : guigr
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    if every console is guaranteed to have it, and to have it configured properly, then games can rely on it ... : electroly
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      Its also how you potentially ruin all the good will you've spent years building with the traditional game... : disembodied potato
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        how does it ruin good will to have it? : RikiTiki2
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          Pay extra 150 dollars for device you don't want to use, doesn't encourage good will. : disembodied potato
          • Lets remember this isn't some brand new device gamers could get excited about. Kinect has a dreadful repu... : disembodied potato
  • One of the patents MS has is to restrict the playback of DVDs if more than a certain number of people are... : 0mar
• What i keep asking myself is how they are going to release a console that tech wise is almost identical t... : disembodied potato
• $499 is a price tag I'd rather not see, but is becoming more and more likely. : one random winner
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  Tinfoil hat theory: Its the new DRM; It will recognize the owner of the game and disallow anyone else to... : Saldrin
  • The tinfoil hat will not help you. : atomx_xmota
  • perhaps, the new consoles are supposedly anti-rental/anti-used games anyways. It may not be long before ... : 0mar
  • first drm to be foiled by a passport photo : kiddygrinder
• Well, I'm registering kinectcocks.com. : woddemandred
• These rumours are becoming less and less believable. : dpgagnon
• This is disappointing. I hope that it is either an incorrect rumor or the actual implementation/execution... : snot3353
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  why would anybody care? tell me why i'm mad!!! : [fry]
  • becuz dey makin you do shit homes : scatterblack
  • Because your $15 movie is now $20 because it thinks that you must pay for your dog to watch the movie too... : mobab
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    Because most of us want to be able to just hook up the minimal amount of console, pop in a game and play.... : snot3353
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      Errr well isn't it just like a single wire and a thing that sits there. I am trying to be outraged here!... : [fry]
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        It requires lots of space to move around. Not everyone has that. : David Craddock
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          You're talking about particular games, though. Just having the device plugged in doesn't indicate that yo... : BlackCat9
          • whatever i'm mad as hell : [fry]
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            True. I'm not upset about it. I'm just not big on all these always-on requirements, be they hearsay or co... : David Craddock
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              an always on console is actually simpler, you get to start the game without turning on the console and wa... : derelict515
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                If there is one console I would never want "always on," it's either of my two 360s. If those things aren... : pgharavi
                • none of the current gen systems are designed to be always on from a hardware or software perspective so t... : derelict515
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                You raise a point, but I find it a weak one. How long do consoles take to boot, really? My PS3 turns on w... : David Craddock
                • 4-5 seconds of "booting" is the reason phones and tablets are preferable for email over laptops. There ar... : derelict515
        • but no one even knows how much they have improved it. if it's going to be required, im going to assume th... : feek
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          Yeah; Kinect tanked hugely in Japan because it was technology made for huge entertainment rooms in suburb... : the archvile
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            but the Wii and Wii Fit did just fine so apparently there is enough room to physically move around, you j... : derelict515
            • What you need is a Japanese name on the box. : Herman Toothrot
        • So don't use it. Also, we don't know that about this new version. : Halen
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      I'm sure that the frequency that you unplug your 360 from the rat's nest of wires behind your entertainme... : BlackCat9
      • IT IS AN OUTRAGE I WILL BUY A PS4 BEFORE I AM FORCED TO RUN ANOTHER MOTHERFUCKING WIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... : snot3353
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        I actually do move my xbox and ps3 around quite frequently because I hook them up to my pc monitor when I... : Herman Toothrot
        • I move mine upstairs and down depending on what i'm up to with them. : Pneum0
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    I play in a theater room with a 120" screen mounted in the wall, there is no place for me to put a kinect... : Senor PoopyPants
    • you can still take advantage of things like voice recognition. That said, I think it's pretty fair to rea... : derelict515
• What's the concern, here? That including a Kinect will in some way cause your systems or games to not fun... : BlackCat9
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  Are you guys reposting that article sourced from Kotaku, which is based on some gentlemen who was selling... : LoioshDwaggie
  • Wow, seriously. Anyways, I guess we can always put a piece of paper over the camera. What was that, a y... : damageundone
  • I believe it's based on the Eurogamer article which came out a while back. : one random winner
  • It's based (supposedly) on documents direct from Microsoft that Totilo actually saw. I typically hate Ko... : Zips
• one step closer to better VR gaming : RikiTiki2
• Requiring a Kinect is okay for me as long as the overall price is competitive, but additional tracking fe... : robotninja
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  I still doubt this. How is it going to work for those of us where the xbox doesn't sit under/near the TV?... : cltcprd
  • Nope. You have to provide a 50 ft. cable. : atomx_xmota
• i don't see what the problem is. they could never make it mandatory for games since not everyone has the... : dantastic
• It's a great idea to me. There's a lot that can be done with the Kinect technology in terms of gameplay ... : exigence7
• It just sounds like they will want to facilitate "Xbox, on, please." style functionality. It would be pre... : Firefly1985
• Has there been any more news on whether it will be in two parts like the leaked information from months a... : Gwyndion
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  Durango Unchained : mr.sleepy
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    The D is silent... : jahulio2
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      and the a and the go : gaplant
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        Urine? : Mad Brahmin Disease
        • no thanks I already had coffee : gaplant
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  Can I get an update on who is super mad about this : [fry]
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    The thought of a camera staring at me non stop bugs me. I don't play many console games so I will just p... : hashd
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      the current Kinect could have been doing this, but it doesn't, because it's creepy and violates your priv... : derelict515
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        The current one isn't required to be on and calibrated in order to play any game like this new one will. : hashd
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          assuming the rumors are true. But again, if you're worried about this you should be just as worried about... : derelict515
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            Stop buying xboxes after my 2nd 360 died, don't have drivers installed for my webcam and well my phone I ... : hashd
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              you're just dodging the question. If you have a recent smartphone, tablet, or laptop, you are constantly ... : derelict515
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                Because out of your example all I use is a phone and I am very aware that it is an expensive tracking dev... : hashd
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                  Jeez just put a piece of electrical tape over the lens if you're genuinely concerned the illuminati is af... : [fry]
                  • Drones, CISPA, NDAA warrentless wiretapping, indefinite detention yeah we shouldn't be worried at all bec... : hashd
              • With all of the items you discussed i feel personally the kinect is the most intrusive. My phone is usua... : disembodied potato
    • Just show your privates to the internet and get it over with. : Evil Benius
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    valcan is too mad to post : chepito_
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      :( FUKING BULLSHIT is what it is. As long as they have a controller it's not super shit, still this is a ... : valcan_s
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        Why is making a game-enhancing feature like a hard drive optional a bad thing, but a game-enhancing featu... : BlackCat9
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          Do you really need to ask this? : Pneum0
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            Yes. When the Kinect came out, everyone said, "what's the point if it doesn't come with the system and de... : BlackCat9
            • Well then, privacy issues. : Pneum0
        • Well if Ms doesn't want to release a $600 console including a kinect, then it probably means they've remo... : disembodied potato
      • Kinect + Oculus Rift would be pretty damned cool. As with anything, if the install base doesn't have it,... : pigvomit
      • just connect a move to your kinnect. : radula
      • Valcan if you're mad I'm mad. I change my stance to super mad. This is insulting to real gamers. : [fry]
  • Doesn't it have some sort of led so you know when it's on? : Rahzar
  • too easy to hack to take the chance of some idiot getting a front row seat to my living room, I have a PC... : Pneum0
• Haven't they realized that always-on anything is NOT a good idea? Shouldn't things that you bought with Y... : soundcreepy
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  I wonder how uncomfortable it's going to make everyone jerkin' off in front of it. : icon_of_syn
  • achievement unlocked : jonin
  • First thing I will doooo! : kagath
  • 124 beats per ejaculation. : Kojak2000
• I won't buy it with Kinect I can tell you that. : Pneum0
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  Congratulations Shacknews this is the overreaction you were looking for. : sasquatchxing
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    You call debate and discussion about real social issues affecting the gaming community to be "overreactio : atomx_xmota
    • No because as much as this community likes to make fun of how people react to Fox News they run stories b... : sasquatchxing
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      People are going to monitor their router the day they get this to see if there's a lot of info being sent... : Derringer
      • Only if you can prove the type of data they're sending. Okay, I'm used to being called crazy by people... : atomx_xmota
• It will help us see the ghosts! : pigvomit
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  Does this mean I have to start waving my hands around like a fool whenever I want to play Xbox? : phate81
  • ... wait. Isn't that how you play, anyway? : atomx_xmota
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  Well as long as Sony doesn't do stupid shit like this I might still get a next gen console. If not I'll ... : melkore
  • Sony will pioneer the Always Off console. Which is what my PS3 already is BWAHAHAHAHA *ahem* : Dave-A
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  How are people still using the 360? It's an inferior product at this point compared to the PS3 / PC. If... : Grumbeld
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    Please say either SUCKbox or Three-shitty if you're going to post this to make it clear. Preferably both. : BlackCat9
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      I'm actually trying to be serious. I think the 360 has really fallen behind as far as services go. Sure... : Grumbeld
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        The obvious answer is you're picking a very narrow and subjective set of criteria. Two of your three issu... : derelict515
        • also I forgot to mention one of my favorite features on the Xbox which is universal search across media a... : derelict515
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          I'm not sure what you were doing that caused you so much grief getting Netflix to work. Maybe it needed a... : melkore
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            I'm not sure what you were doing that caused you so much grief getting Netflix to work. Maybe it needed a : derelict515
            • I'm with melkore on this: your experience is atypical. I use a ps3, and when I need to update Netflix, a ... : David Craddock
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          The most telling part of this hardware cycle is that while the 360 began its life ahead of the PS3 servic... : Perturbation
          • I would disagree pretty much across the board there : derelict515
      • I just don't think you can call it an inferior product, even though I do agree with some of your points. ... : BlackCat9
  • I doubt you were picking up the Xbox anyway. PS4lyfe! : pigvomit
• Zero interest in the Kinect. That being said I'm hardly interested in any next-gen system, unless it's r... : wytefang
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  Don't really want this. If I have to ask "why would they require this?", and there's no obvious, practic... : owly
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    So you use every feature of every device you own? There's nothing any of them do that you don't use? : Halen
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      That's kind of the point. There's a reason why I have the option to disable Location Services on my phon... : owly
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        But it's not like you know the kinect is going to be used by default. : Halen
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          Same with Location Services. Not every app uses it, but I can still disable it globally. : owly
          • You actually can't entirely disable it. It's still available for use during emergency calls regardless o... : Herman Toothrot
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      If the extra feature i dont use pushes the price up about $150 then yeah, i'll tend to go for the other d... : disembodied potato
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        Lucky for you both devices will have to be priced roughly competitively. : Herman Toothrot
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          So does that mean the xbox will be less powerful to accomodate the extra cost of the kinect? Or are MS ma... : disembodied potato
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            The rumour is the MS console will have 8gb of ram, the Sony only 4 - the MS one however has 3gb of ram re... : abrasion
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              I dunno i've heard so many different conflicting rumours about the ram in both systems, we'll just have t... : disembodied potato
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                http://i.minus.com/i7kGzzlg7yYRp.gif : abrasion
                • I can't stop laughing at this : icecreambus
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                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_leader : Herman Toothrot
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                  I thought both systems would be selling at a dramatic loss anyway. Crazy if Ms wants to add another 100-2... : disembodied potato
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                    Yeah, I expect both systems to sell at a loss, I'm just saying that neither company can really afford to ... : Herman Toothrot
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                      I mean heay, maybe I'll be wrong. I'm hardly an expert, but it didn't work out well for Sony last time a... : Herman Toothrot
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                        I guess thats the point i've been trying to make in this whole thread. The first kinect was $150. Thats ... : disembodied potato
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                          I doubt the new kinect will be significantly better than the old one but there are definitely advantages ... : Herman Toothrot
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                            I mean, I suppose kinect could have been a loss leader, but given that they gutted a lot of the hardware ... : Herman Toothrot
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                              Well we don't really know yet. All we've heard rumoured is that its a much more powerful Kinect. And obv... : disembodied potato
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                                What? Having dedicated hardware for the camera would be the preferred method. That shouldn't significan... : Herman Toothrot
                                • But then there's less money to spend on the other bits of the system, I suppose. : jcupitt
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                                  Yeah you missed my point, obviously using hardware would benefit the camera. But that means you have to a... : disembodied potato
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                                    The point i'm getting at here is that the inclusion of the kinect costs MS something and possibly the gam... : disembodied potato
                                    • I think the rumours are that Durango has a weaker GPU and slower ram, which could be to offset the extra ... : jcupitt
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                                    They already have a shitload of ram in that thing and they have a lot of it reserved for non-gaming appli... : Herman Toothrot
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                                      In any case we're arguing about rumors and I think I've made any of the points I feel strongly about. It... : Herman Toothrot
                                      • indeed. : disembodied potato
          • No, it means regardless of the price of the hardware, the actual price to the consumer can't be significa... : Herman Toothrot
• I am so angry, this is fucking horseshit : Magus
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  How is this different from the Wii? I don't remember the outrage over the Wii sensor bar. : TickHeadDog
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    the sensor bar isn't a camera : derelict515
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      How is this different from the Wii iPad? I don't remember the outrage over the Wii sensor bar iPad Camera... : watcherxp
      • Apple made the iPad. : pgharavi
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  So either the kinect will be a separate part like it is now, or it will have to be built in and you will ... : gaplant
  • For flexibility's sake I would think it needs to be separate. : Halen
  • still separate but i imagine the sensor unit will be smaller since they can put most of the electronics i... : electroly
• and it runs the OS the WHOLE TIME even if you DONT USE it : 60days
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  So all the dashboard stuff will be a hand-waving affair? That sounds pretty cool; Minority Report, rad. : Cliffzorz
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    You haven't actually used a Kinect or seen one in use, have you? : Herman Toothrot
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      Yeah thats the other thing as well, i've heard so many reports of Kinect working really well for some peo... : disembodied potato
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        Only if they were going to mandate its use. Making it a core feature means there's more incentive to inc... : Herman Toothrot
        • Sure, but its still odd to ship a piece of hardware as a core feature that might just straight up not wor... : disembodied potato
        • I cant figure out if it's good or bad to mandate those features. It seems like when they mandate the new ... : gaplant
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  Of course it will require Kinect! How else is Microsoft going to count the number of people in the room b... : RidleySaria
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    Hah, any everyone builds tiny one person dioramas around their Kinect every time they watch a movie. : disembodied potato
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      Or strategically moves the Kinect and places a large poster in front of it. : TrulyVexed
      • I can't read. I'm going back to bed. : TrulyVexed
    • if this really happened, it would actually be worth it. : gaplant
• Report = Rumor : Mad Brahmin Disease
• I'm fine with this, as long as it provides additional functionality and is not used as the primary input ... : atom519