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    Andrew Yoon posted a new article, Shooting first: what it means for Sony to go first into next-gen.

    What does it mean for Sony to announce its next console before Microsoft? What does that bode for the PS4 and the next Xbox?
    Feb 11, 2013 11:15am PST
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    Andrew Yoon posted a new article, Shooting first: what it means for Sony to go first into next-gen.

    What does it mean for Sony to announce its next console before Microsoft? What does that bode for the PS4 and the next Xbox? : ShacknewsThis person is cool!

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      it will fail like the 360. : radulaThis person is cool!
      • Its going to be a success everywhere except Japan. Oh and Madagascar. : massdev
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        When did the 360 fail? : hatelullThis person is cool!
        • When it offered you a ring of love! : pgharaviThis person is cool!
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      i miss the dreamcast. : megreedy
      • we all do, son... we all do. : EvilDolemiteThis person is cool!
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        I wish my Dreamcast and Gamecube would have sex and make Dreamcube. : Crabs Jarrard
        • or a GameCast! there is no screen, it just streams online. so you need a pc to view what you are playing. : radulaThis person is cool!
      • https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/pF7vkgSbUnWWp1kfTp6hj9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink : EvilDolemiteThis person is cool!
      • I read that as Sega first instead of Sony and had to do a triple-take. : one random winner
      • http://cdn.thegloss.com/files/2011/10/dreamcast.gif : atom519This person is cool!
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      Didn't those mofo's just say a few weeks ago they were going to wait and see what everyone else does? : joninThis person is cool!
      • 1/21 - http://www.shacknews.com/article/77488/sony-ceo-competitors-can-go-first-in-console-battle 1/31 -... : AndrewYoon
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      regardless of who goes first, if they take out used games, I'm done with consoles. DONE : rubencamacho78
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        To be fair its not like there is a used pc game market : JohnnyRey
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          Yeah and I suspect that stuff like Steam Sales can be done mostly because there is no resale value for th... : cetra00
          • I really doubt the publishers will go along with that. I think they'd need a huuuuge backlash before they... : disembodied potatoThis person is cool!
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          The difference is, PC games drop price / value FAST - console games launch more expensive and hold value... : abrasionThis person is cool!
          • to be fair, this might also end up happening with console games, but I'd guess only so if there's low sal... : jimmy_legs
      • Will you bet me money you won't buy a Sony or MS console? : Lucy LabiaThis person is cool!
    • Shoot first? I thought this was an article about the LAPD. : ChodThis person is cool!
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      Serious question. Since weve seen how similar the hardware between these 2 devices are. (Ps4 and xbox720)... : chillnThis person is cool!
      • The similarity and parity of the two consoles should benefit the generation. Complex new architectures a... : cetra00
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        I'm more concerned that their similarity could come back to haunt the two giants. Gabe Newell is convinc... : Teirdome
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          How would apple tv replace a console : JohnnyRey
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            The theory is that ATV will become more than just a movie/music device, and have some ability to play gam... : EntityThis person is cool!
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              That would be fine for casual games, but that sounds worse than the WiiU controller for anything else. : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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                The WiiU Gamepad is pretty damn awesome, I feel like having to go into a separate screen for inventory ma... : DerringerThis person is cool!
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                  And yet I still have no motivation to buy a WiiU, go figure. : jtthe2nd
                  • It's a gamepad and a tv dinner stand.... why wouldn't you want one? : erebusThis person is cool!
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              what's taking so long to get this strategy off the ground? The AppleTV has been a slow moving project for... : derelict515This person is cool!
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                Presumably they want to do more than just make a devices that is AppleTV + app store. What the other stu... : BouillonCubes
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                  but Siri came out like 2 years ago now right? There was/is a huge opening for an iOS device plus app stor... : derelict515This person is cool!
                  • It's definitely going to be a trick for them to offer what is sort of a "next-gen" AppleTV that costs mor... : BouillonCubes
      • We haven't really seen anything yet. : Fred GarvinThis person is cool!
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        AMD won out like gangbusters this gen, I'm sure that had something to do wtih it. : one random winner
        • Let's just hope they survive till the next generation. : VegtroThis person is cool!
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        Seems like they took the simple way out on these hardware designs. On the plus side that suggests at leas... : thebigbeefsandwich
        • True, i just feel like things have stagnated. My perpetual cynicism seems to have arupted last 3 or 4 yea... : chillnThis person is cool!
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          In the past, with mid-range PC hardware I would still expect the consoles to look better than PC's for a ... : Teirdome
          • I'm pretty sure the current console generation all have proper operating systems already. It sounds like... : Herman Toothrot
          • but consoles have non trivial multi purpose OSes already, and on 360 there's at least one F2P game today ... : derelict515This person is cool!
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      I've only owned a PS, though when I hear about some of the games, like No Ni Kuni. I feel like i'm missin... : ZizThis person is cool!
      • Oh and Demon's Souls : ZizThis person is cool!
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        wait...what? : pancake humper
        • I own other consoles, but of Sony just had the first Playstation. : ZizThis person is cool!
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      Microsoft from third to second? Not quite. Xbox outsold the GameCube: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histo... : Grape Flavor
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        Actually, Wikipedia tells me the PS3 has now outpaced the 360 in worldwide sales, so arguably MS is last ... : Grape Flavor
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          Where are you seeing that? I am seeing the 360 ahead of total worldwide sales http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... : sigproThis person is cool!
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            You're right, my mistake. I got the numbers flipped somehow. : Grape Flavor
            • It's because the lists for all the other generations are in order of sales from most to least, but for so... : Grape Flavor
          • The ps3 numbers are a whole quarter behind the other two : Makenxero
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            Wow the 360's only real stranglehold is the US, it makes so much sense regarding some of the posts on thi... : abrasionThis person is cool!
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              "only", yup, only the little ol' US, where we like maple syrup with our bacon : EvilDolemiteThis person is cool!
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                Yes, 'only' - if you look at the linked article, every other region the PS3 is winning. : abrasionThis person is cool!
                • Still, the 360 sales in the US alone nearly match that of the PS3 in everywhere but the US combined. : pyideThis person is cool!
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                  and they're still behind worldwide...i know you desperately want to write off the US but as a market, the... : EvilDolemiteThis person is cool!
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                    I am most surprised by the Canada PS3 vs 360 numbers compared to the US. I figured it would be close to t... : pyideThis person is cool!
                    • Although now I see the last count for 360 in Canada was 2008 for some reason, a decent gap compared to th... : pyideThis person is cool!
                    • There aren't as many bros in Canada, eh. : ArBThis person is cool!
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                    How do I /desperately/ want to write off the US market? Oh shacknews (or should I say EvilDolemite to be ... : abrasionThis person is cool!
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                      Sales for last Q came out a week or so ago. Check Neogaf mayhaps. : Fenring42
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                        The 360's sales advantage is down to about 1 million units worldwide. Based on the way sales have trended... : ossprey
                        • Factor in the % of dead 360's - I'd say Sony is winning. : abrasionThis person is cool!
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                      True, never would've thought that Sony could pull that off. They needed a reality check after their smu... : razorblade79This person is cool!
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                        Oh yeah that smug shit was off the dial, man did they fuck up hard for the PS3 announcement / launch : abrasionThis person is cool!
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                          Yup and they got spanked for it, but they've been pretty humble recently. Obviously i'm predicting wi... : disembodied potatoThis person is cool!
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                            If Microsoft actually do have a 'micro projector' which projects half the game around my entire living ro : abrasionThis person is cool!
                            • I can only see Forza and coop Halo keeping me interested in the next Xbox. Not many PlayStation exclusi... : razorblade79This person is cool!
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                      Catching up or not, sales wise the PS3 still has to be viewed as an abject failure from Sony's previously... : ughhhhhhh
                      • Well during the ps2 era there really wasn't a proper competitor. Dreamcast was already on its knees. The... : disembodied potatoThis person is cool!
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                      Its funny to see how defensive all the Americans got because you used the word "only" in the same sentenc... : disembodied potatoThis person is cool!
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                        Do you reckon that's what it was? I wondered why the reaction, you're probably right TBH! : abrasionThis person is cool!
                        • Seemed like that to me, but of course i fully expect to be shack piled for even suggesting such a thing. : disembodied potatoThis person is cool!
                    • If China lifts the console ban, the next generation should have a giant increase in market potential. An... : Ertai
                • You need a deeper, better definition of winning than hardware sales. If for example 360 made more prof... : lord cecilThis person is cool!
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        I don't think they ever profited on hardware though. GCN was profitable always. : BouillonCubes
        • Ah, I see. I was just looking at units sold, but arguably the more meaningful statistic would be profit/l... : Grape Flavor
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      Nintendo may have cashed in on their hardware with the Wii but it ended up being the least-used system on... : wytefangThis person is cool!
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        Where's the proof that the Wii was the least used? If you're thinking of Nielsen, don't. They're pret... : K1Bond007This person is cool!
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          Come onnnnnnnnn jesus fuck man, really? : abrasionThis person is cool!
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            Umm.. yes. : K1Bond007This person is cool!
            • lol : abrasionThis person is cool!