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  aren't they not supposed to sell them to minors already : multisync
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    That's by industry agreement, not anything with force of law. That said, this will never fly for a num... : Conan
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      It wouldn't change how parents buy this shit now. I went in to Gamestop the other day, and a mother was b... : mancide
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        Or she probably knew exactly what she was buying her son. I don't agree with her being snappy towards th... : TheActionFigure
        • I agree with Mancide here, a huge number of purchases for video games are moms that have no clue what the... : Q-ball
        • How many of those stereotypical 14 year olds on XBL playing CoD shared your experience? : alias
  • yeah I thought that was already a thing. : jonin
  • It is not a law. : Evil Benius
  • Much like in every other entertainment industry, it's not an actual law. : Vincent Grayson
  • Stores can set their own policy, but there's no law that restricts the sale. IIRC, such laws were ruled ... : 0mar
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  There shouldn't be a tax, but restricting the game sales to minors is a good thing. They aren't supposed ... : avatar_58
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    However - if this came about due to the Sandyhook shooting I am very confused. The guy who shot those kid... : avatar_58
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      I am sure their reasoning is that is has an effect on them as they grow up, though, I thought that is the... : Carstman
      • My question is then, how much violent video games did he play as a minor? : mobab
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    We should not want the government to be the ones to decide that or have control over it. That has huge Fi... : Evil Benius
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      I don't think that really makes sense. The government is supposed to be representative of the people and ... : Attica Blue
      • Like weed, alchohol, hard drugs, etc? : avatar_58
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        Because it's a first amendment issue. The same reason the government doesn't control our access to movies... : Vincent Grayson
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          But it seems to me that if the MPAA, for example, declined to enforce its voluntary code, the government : Attica Blue
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            First, undercover "stings" for the last few years have found that the videogame industry does a better jo... : jccalhoun
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              Second, films are not required to be rated which if proved by the endless "unrated" editions of films tha : Attica Blue
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                Do you really want the Republican party deciding what movies, video games, and books are available? : Arcanum
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                  Meanwhile, a new bill from Jim Matheson (D-UT), HR-287 (PDF), would require ratings labels on games, and : walker270
                  • Attica Blue seems to be talking about a governmental agency deciding what's acceptable and what's not. W... : Arcanum
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                  As I say, I'm not arguing for or against it--just questioning the idea that government has no role or pla... : Attica Blue
                  • Yes, and I'm asking the counter question of "Do you want people with political and social beliefs diametr... : Arcanum
              • But if you want to get into theaters and make money, you do have to rate. That is true but my point abou : jccalhoun
        • So what about the legal age restriction on porn ? are you saying that's unconstitutional ? : Disarray
      • They don't have a say over movies, tv content, or book sales to minors. Why should they have a say over v... : nakedsavage
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    the film and TV ratings systems are voluntary and effective. if a parent feels his child can handle adul... : EvilDolemite
    • Last I heard, the ESRB system is actually more effective than the film rating system. : Arcanum
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      Who said they are going after parents? This is the sale of adult content to minors. It has nothing to do ... : avatar_58
      • There's nobody else to go after at this point. The existing voluntary rating systems are already highly ... : Arcanum
      • Adult as determined by a non-governmental body. There's a lot wrong with this, along with requiring that ... : Conan
• Yeah! Let's capitalize on the people that are mature and old enough to play these games! : DM7
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  The hilarious thing to me has been the game of hot potato between gun people and video game people, scram... : creeping-judas
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    don't forget natural born killers! the MOVIE industry was on the hook also! they have the nerve to call ... : Downforce
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      You're really trying to depress me, aren't you? <<<Gun owning gamer who directs movies for a living. : creeping-judas
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        Then there's the blood-soaked slasher films like "American Psycho" !!!!! I mean holy shit whoever made t... : Downforce
        • BAAAAAAWW!!! <<<Didn't like that movie much but still. *Twitch* : creeping-judas
    • ugh'ed by mistake, goddamnit : d fluke
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  By the way Adam Lanza was 20 years old, and almost every recent mass shooting was committed by a legal ad... : DevSword
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    And last I read about it they said played warcraft and starcraft. I wouldn't really consider either fo th... : BeowolfSchaefer
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      Depends on how you define violent. Almost everything you do in those games qualifies as "killing shit... : creeping-judas
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        I swear there was a study done that suggested the most prominent (and still very temporary and minor) eff... : Vincent Grayson
        • Which of course makes sense because you are competing against another real person, who you can get mad at... : creeping-judas
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        well I understand the anti-game/film violence people ussually refer to desensitization. While there is si... : BeowolfSchaefer
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          I'm just delineating the difference between violence and gore. Starcraft is hundreds of dudes killing... : creeping-judas
          • (Keeping in mind also that most real life killing that happens looks like this now) - http://arlingto... : creeping-judas
  • no man don't you understand, it's their exposure to violent video games as children that twisted them int... : DeBurgo
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  Don't tax me because some Parent is too lazy to monitor what their kids do with the money they give to th... : saturn96
  • I agree. Getting tired of government playing mom and dad when the parents need to get off their asses and... : Saldrin
• This won't fix lazy parenting. : g0nk
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  As long as parents can still buy kids actual guns we're ok. Glad their taking on the real problem here. : BeowolfSchaefer
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    Are you suggesting that guns are the problem? : Markemp
    • nah, that would be silly. : BeowolfSchaefer
• I like how they are going after that after they just lost a little over six months ago on similar grounds... : Chod
• more important to be able to buy high capacity magazines without a background check than to let a 16 year... : RikiTiki2
• Already more or less enforced by major retailers and impossible to enforce against online retailers. ... : asianwaste
• I hate this shit....video games are a false correlation....just because nutjobs are antisocial and fuckin... : kainen1
• Don't Tax Me Bro! : mp7rox
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  Our government fucking sucks. DONT TELL ME "love it or leave it" or "its better than china!" because YOU ... : sanewave
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    lmao. yeah congress' approval rating is 18%. I think it's clear where the problem is. http://www.gal... : Downforce
    • It's all government, and it all sucks. : creeping-judas
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    The biggest problem with the Government is the majority of the House is made up of sore losers and religi... : Darkstarblade
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      Incorrect. The biggest problem with the Government is that it is made entirely of politicians. : creeping-judas
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        many of which are sore losers and religious fundies : RikiTiki2
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          The house is the mob. Many of them just lunatics. But they are desperate to do anything that allows th... : moco300
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            You know what I like about people who say stuff like this crap? You would be entirely fine with reasonabl... : Ksey17
            • Errr...I can't kill someone with a game...unless I walk over and ram the DVD it came on down their throa... : rottdcorpse
• lol : walker270
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  All of this falls apart because it's difficult to write an infallible definition of what a violent game i... : daggot
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    We could generate a list of arbitrary "features" that define what a violent video game. Number of gu : pulsedrive
    • BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE LETTER A AND The Shoulder Thing That Goes Up. : creeping-judas
• I find it funny that they are trying to punish the game makers and the game sellers for parents that will... : HellHasNoFury
• As useful as the internet's "confirm your age" birthdate entry, which undoubtably prevents minors from ac... : Magus
• Aren't stores already doing a decent job doing this. I've even seen gamestop turn some dude away because... : capt tripps
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  First it was jazz music. Then it was Rock and Roll. Then it was D&D. Now it's video games. I wonder... : TickHeadDog
  • food. : Prometheus117
  • You forgot Slayer, Satan (Satan & Slayer combined), Marilyn Manson, and Satan again. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  You guys are fucking ridiculous. Replace video games with guns and you sound EXACTLY like the people you ... : Disarray
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    Wait 'till they start taxing people that say "jesus fucking christ." You'll be the one up in arms then. : barcibus
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      it's a slippery slope! Obamas gona take my vidja ghames! : Disarray
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        Ok, but would you agree that video games are a little bit different from guns? : barcibus
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          I got a nasty papercut from the box Tie Fighter came in. : owly
          • Force Commander literally killed my childhood. : Moonbase Commander
• You know I played violent video games from the time I was 4 until now where i'm 21, and I've been complet... : lokithhh
• These proposals won't do a thing, firstly because minors will still get these games, and secondly its the... : drac01
• If they do this bullcrap then they cant just tax violent games they would need to ban children from going... : deltavvolf
• Some retailers you need an adult to buy any M game.. the ban will just enforce this with law instead of v... : Oninusar
• I only wish that a law restricting the sale of violent games to minors would work. But it wouldn't, beca... : RowjinZee