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  Valve, piston, oooh I see what they did there. : mobab
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    I still think they should have called it the Steam Engine. : Rehevkor
    • Maybe they are slowly building the parts for a Steam Engine. : mobab
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      They will release several different models that can be combined to make a super computer called the Steam... : prime8
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        Only you shovel in money instead of coal. : greasyjohn
        • One holiday sale at a time. : surley_monkey
  • I thought it was more steam + piston, but obviously valve does fit in well too. : DinK
• I'm going to make it a point to force the word 'Yonks' into my daily conversations now. Thanks Alice. : atom519
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  Looks like a streaming/cloud gaming type of device. : Dr_Cube
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    I'd wager it will use USB 3.0 HDDs as a primary recommended storage. : asianwaste
    • USB3 is certainly fast enough for a good gaming experience. : Conan
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  Those boxes always looked cool, but I recall them being pricey. : Conan
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    Valve might take a hit off every unit. Ensured steam sales to keep people from straying over to Origin o... : asianwaste
    • I mean pricey for what you got. I recall thinking they should have been cheaper than they were, but that ... : Conan
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      The X7A (which this is based off of) is a cool $1k, they'll have to subsidize a lot or something because ... : one random winner
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        Where are you getting that price? The promotional video released today (or yesterday) says that the entry... : nakedsavage
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          If you actually read the article above it says the X7A, which this will be based off of, is $1k. The P : one random winner
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            integrated graphics destroys this product from being good. And I could easily spec out a PC for under $60... : ajvitaly
            • Agreed, it needs to be 1/2 that price at most. : one random winner
            • Yeah, if that's where they're really going it makes no sense. Nobody wants a $500-1000 box to play old ga... : DinK
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  The Wii is going to get Piston. Clever dicks. : frib
  • lolololol : Chipwarrior
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  I wonder how much storage it has. The video showed 4 eSATA ports on the back. That seems like a lot. I wo... : Dynotaku
  • They said 1TB. : freakynipples69
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  Also, is there any chance this thing is really going to be a workhorse gaming PC if it's only using 20wat... : Dynotaku
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    If it uses the AMD fusion processors it should be able to play a good chunk of games on steam. Especiall... : melkore
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      I don't know about doing it at 1080p though. Unless they've figured out how to make games run way faster ... : deject
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        There was an article about 6 months after they had started the Linux project that had said as much IIRC, ... : one random winner
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          Yeah there were signifigant gains in Left 4 Dead 2 when they were testing. It's on the valve blog htt... : melkore
          • I can buy that for their game, not so much for other dev's games. : deject
      • That will be heavily game dependent, but I doubt it's true for Valve's existing games, stuff like L4D or ... : Conan
  • haha, no. : Lucien Irenicus
  • according to this image: http://www.engadget.com/gallery/xi3-x7a-modular-computer-hands-on-0/5546757/ i... : BigT
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    that's probably the lower end. : anhero
    • from a kickstarter press release Uses significantly less electricity than other computers with similar... : anhero
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    Here are some benchmarks for its GPU. http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7660G.69830.0.html Do... : Junktown
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      That's assuming it's not one of the new, low end 8000 series, but my guess is it will be quite comparable... : one random winner
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        They've announced what APU it's using. It's the R-464L. : Junktown
        • :p : one random winner
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  And NOW the HL3 / Episode 3 rumor train can actually start rolling without being complete vapor. Conso... : Lucien Irenicus
  • I'll probably buy one whether it has Ep3 on it or not. : Haku-Jin
  • Considering it will be running on either Ubuntu or Windows anyways probably not. : one random winner
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  Here are some more solid specs: http://ces.cnet.com/8301-34439_1-57562655/xi3-announces-valve-investment-... : Dynotaku
  • Oh interesting. I wonder how close it'll be to the ps4? They were talking about going to about that hardw... : jcupitt
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  Isn't this going to lead to more developers hamstringing their games to come in under a hardware roof, ki... : Firefly1985
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    Yeah, I have no idea why anyone wants this. Who wants this??? : JohnnyRey
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      120 people apparently. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/262476727/xi3-help-us-usher-in-the-post-pc-era : Junktown
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        lol...there you go : JohnnyRey
        • With an average donation of $750 per person, that's probably where the rather lofty price point comes fro... : Junktown
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        I see the real money maker for them: selling you "modular" upgrades that only they make. Very slick. : Firefly1985
        • I think that's better than a platform that doesn't change for 7 years. Though I wonder how they'll indica... : Dynotaku
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          its not slick! Its stupid! Why would you ever want that? Just, you know, build a normal gaming PC? : JohnnyRey
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            sarcasm johnny. sarcasm. : Bamtan
            • god dammit my meter is broken =( : JohnnyRey
          • I meant slick as in it's a nice trick to get people buying their parts forever. I think it is a dumb idea... : Firefly1985
      • Hahaha. A PC.... where you can upgrade things? ABSURD. : sgtsanity
      • Half of those only wanted it enough to invest $3 though, to get the newsletter. : SilverSnake
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      Why do you want an Xbox or a PS3? At some point, the hardware limitation has benefits. : TheNiXXeD
      • This doesn't seem to be targeted at console people, though. : Firefly1985
    • I think the idea of: 1. Buy game on Steam, download on PC 2. Tell Steam to download it to my Piston d... : Schnapple
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    I hope they enter this with more of a PC mentality. Imagine 20 years from now, when you browse the steam ... : frenziedbadger
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      I think they'd do good to use a single spec, but to update it yearly and have a number in the name like y... : DinK
      • Make the number the year and you can just say "Requires Piston 2014 or newer" : one random winner
• Xi3's website is getting absolutely hammered. : basketofkittens
• Also, I'm actually pretty excited for this to come to form. Not because I want to purchase one really bu... : atom519
• If this is the actual steambox, hurray for a cool looking design but complete fail on hardware and price.... : ajvitaly
• This whole situation just doesn't make any sense. Why would valve collaborate with Nvidia to get linux pe... : ajvitaly
• Repeat from other thread: I still don't know how they can pull this off without a lot more work on the s... : Begawkiness
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  WTF is a yonk? : g0nk
  • I was about to ask the same thing. : CampKusoge
  • British slang for "ages". : Creepin_Jeezus
  • Year/month/week = Yonk : sogelegos
• I'm excited to see where this goes, but it seems like it might be overly pricy. : brickmatt
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  For a $1000 bucks.... probably not. Its a cool idea looks cool but not at that price it is all about the : valcan_s
  • Wrong video card there should of been a 660: ZOTAC ZT-60901-10M GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI : valcan_s
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    Now try to beat it without breaking 40w. : Junktown
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      :) well the 40 watt is super impressive no doubt but as a gamer what do I care about that? 40 watt vs ... : valcan_s
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        You'd care if you had a 500W computer sitting below your TV. But I agree they should have been more cost ... : guigr
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          That comp case probably is worth $400 alone that is some impressive design work etc, it can have a freaki... : valcan_s
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            it may be worth $400 from a sales standpoint, but it sure as hell isn't worth $400 to me. : JohnnyRey
            • Same I could care less, if it was $400 that be like almost 2X 660 in SLI that you could have, I would rat... : valcan_s
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          Nope, I still wouldn't care. : JohnnyRey
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            Remember that this thing would need to be always on. Waiting for Windows and Steam to load would be a dea... : guigr
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              A deal breaker for who? : JohnnyRey
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                The console crowd or whoever Valve wants to convert with this. : guigr
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                  at $1000, they aren't going to convert anyone : JohnnyRey
                  • I'm pretty sure we'll be far below that price otherwise that Xi3 thing isn't the Valve Steambox. : guigr
    • Does anyone really care about the power usage of a console that is plugged in to a wall outlet? : Rahzar
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      I don't think the benefits of being 40w outweighs the performance cost per dollar that you scarifice : ninjase
      • Well, if I said do it in mITX form factor it'd still be really easy to crush it (though not as easy to ph... : Junktown
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        I don't think it's even the right metric to be looking at when building machines for gaming. Yes wattage ... : pixelat3d
        • Yep. If I have $1000 to spend and I want to buy a machine to play games on, I don't see how those choice ... : ninjase
  • Valcan, I'm going to hazard a guess, and say you are not the target demographic for this. : sogelegos
• year of the linux piston? : RikiTiki2
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  $1000? Paging valcan_s : Ride-My-Rocket
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    :) ----------------- Newegg.com ------------------------ Qty. Product Description Savings Total : valcan_s
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      I fucking love you, man -- you fight for the users! Can't wait for the write-up. : Ride-My-Rocket
      • "you fight for the users" fuck yeah man \m/ : valcan_s
    • BUT BUT ITS BUILT IN OBSOLESCENCE.. WAIT NO IT ISN'T Seriously I didn't know wtf they were talking abo... : Zero Hoki
    • Cost of labor to assemble? Cost of time to gain expertise required for proper assembly? : Volatris
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  It looks like this isn't Valve's first party hardware. There is no Valve press involved in this. Valve... : pantsburgh
  • Yeah, this isn't valve's official offering. This sort of feels like when apple started putting itunes... : disembodied potato
  • Maybe Valve is going to like 3DO or Panasonic's CD-i where they don't make the hardware, they make the sp... : Schnapple
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    I don't think Valve is going to do first party hardware. It so far outside their usual area of expertise.... : evildanish
    • they hired an industrial designer not too long ago... : zerog83
    • Yeah but the examples you're probably thinking of (Microsoft made the Microsoft Mouse before they put out... : Schnapple
    • They've already explicitly said they would be releasing their own hardware, as well as working with other... : disembodied potato
    • Valve already hired a bunch of hardware people to work on hardware things. : TheIneffableBob
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      I'm pretty sure Microsoft did exactly that with the Xbox. :P : pantsburgh
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        NOOOO microsoft made a mouse and keyboard so they had all this extensive hardware knowledge going into th... : ajvitaly
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          Well also, game controllers. Sidewinder FTW : Schnapple
          • I still miss my Sidewinder Force Feedback 2. I like my Logitech G940...but its a lot more grainy than th... : Vorlonesque
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    I made a post about this not too long ago (also because I applied for that job), but I was never under th... : MercFox1
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      That's what the article back in March said, but Gabe said last month: "Newell said he's expecting a lo... : pantsburgh
      • I'm much less certain. : MercFox1
  • I think it is a lot of info in year Interview new --> http://www.gamespot.com/team-fortress-2/videos/is-i... : valcan_s
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  Here is a way, way better HTPC gaming machine for $700 http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDe... : ajvitaly
  • To be fair, they worked with AMD on the same issues with Linux, but I agree, I don't think this is the St... : one random winner
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    You got a big enough power supply for that thing? : bling1bling
    • Yes the cpu is rated at 65 watts and the video card is rated at 110 watts. : ajvitaly
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    That's what I'm thinking. I wonder if Piston is an in-home OnLive box. Your big rig will run the games,... : ThomW
    • If all it's doing is slinging video, Ouya could probably do that. There's got to be more to this. : Schnapple
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    a 5400rpm harddrive? do you hate yourself? : Goncyn
    • I was just trying to show that $700 can get a gaming rig in a small form factor with several orders of ma... : ajvitaly
• Finally a PC that I can park my truck on! : Zero Hoki
• Well, if this really is the Steam Box, I can't imagine how it could have been any more anticlimactic than... : Grape Flavor
• AMD?! daVinci1980, how could you guys let that happen? : CRasterImage
• Still not sure about this thing... It's interesting and I do like what I see here. Linux however is li... : TotalRecall
• I see this as good in the sense as it will help fight the console's stranglehold on video games. The cons... : EnhancedInterrogator