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  The linux beta already works pretty well. Curious what controllers they'll come up with. : Conan
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    I'd be surprised if they don't just use a keyboard and mouse. Maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but to my und... : Sab669
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      It's a console, and mouse and keyboard simply don't work from the couch. Believe me, I've tried - I've bu... : Conan
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        Mouse and keyboard don't work from the couch? come on, i've been playing pc games on the couch (fps inclu... : Elsaispo
        • They don't work for me, and I've had plenty of agreement here in the past. : Conan
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  No matter how much they push Linux for their box, a lot of PC releases will still be Windows / DirectX on... : pyide
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    A lot of that will depend on the middleware used; some is easier to port than others. : Conan
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      Windows is going to remain the PC standard though, even with all of Valve's backing of Steam on Linux tha... : pyide
      • Though if Linux is their way of getting their stock Steam OS and hardware into homes without paying MS li... : pyide
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      Even then, it's still a non-trivial investment to port properly. : Fred Garvin
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        I never suggested it was. : Conan
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          I just don't see the money yet. : Fred Garvin
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            Sure, but you could argue that's the same for any console launch. : Conan
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              For established players no. Especially if they have some for of backwards compatibility out of the gate. ... : Fred Garvin
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                But you added that condition. Microsoft and Sony both managed to enter the market with similar conditions... : Conan
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                  Microsoft and Sony are also giant corporations, Valve is not. One huge difference is they can afford to p... : StealthHawk
                  • Valve has a pretty massive revenue stream thanks to Steam. : OutlawSundown
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                    You might be underestimating how well Valve is doing. : Conan
                    • Microsoft lost roughly $5 billion on the first Xbox. Valve is estimated to be worth $2 to $3 billion. ... : Wisp!
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  Episode 3!!!! : Dschinghis Khan
  • This will be the console exclusive!! (might be the only way to get me to buy one) : djdisco
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  So Valve enters the console wars. The next couple years are going to be very interesting. : Grape Flavor
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    I really do not see this as being them entering the console arena. This thing will be more geared towards... : Evil Benius
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      Neither did Apple with the iPhone & iPad at first. : wunderbred
      • But the iPad and iPhone arguably offered new experiences and created new markets. HTPCs have long existed... : StealthHawk
• Sort of off topic... but I've noticed today that we are now able to select where to install the games, we... : FesterBlatz
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  Hahah if Valve actually uses Linux for their Steambox, it's not going to be the amazing thing that everyo... : OverloadUT
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    Chicken/egg for sure. Not sure what the end game is here for them. : Fred Garvin
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      WINDOWS 8 BAD!! LINUX GOOD! CHEAP GAMES BETTER!!!!! As someone who hasn't really paid any close at... : ConfusedUs
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        Irony is, the cost of making the games isn't any less, it's just that the OS is free. So, in the end it's... : Fred Garvin
        • This might be what he meant by "cheap": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUo1PgKksgw : aasyranth
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    People also said steam wouldn't work. I've got faith that whatever it looks like when it's released, the... : Haku-Jin
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      It took Steam a LONG time and it had a major Trojan Horse called Half Life. What's the killer app to get ... : Fred Garvin
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        Hell even making Half-Life 3 a PC exclusive (including this box) might not be enough. : Evil Benius
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          that won't do anything, because everyone who is clamoring for Half-Life 3 will more than likely play it o... : RikiTiki2
          • This is the whole problem with this thing. You will not pull in console gamers with multiplatform titles ... : Evil Benius
          • Valvebox exclusive for 6 months maybe but that will piss off a lot of people : et72
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        Half Life 3: A SteamBox Exclusive! : ConfusedUs
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          Half-Life 2 was a Steam exclusive, so it's possible. : the archvile
          • I don't know, hardware would be pretty different. Getting steam didn't cost me a penny until they starte : Horn
      • Freeciv : capt tripps
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        IT wasn't HL that sold steam for people. It was CS. : Pettytheft
        • that's my recollection as well, but i do remember there being holdouts that weren't converted until HL : Veegeezee
        • This is the correct answer. : MercFox1
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          Not for me. I played CS, but it wasn't what got Steam on my machine it was HL. : Fred Garvin
          • LET THE RECORD BE CORRECTED, FRED OF HOUSE GARVIN HAS HAD A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE : Disarray
        • I installed Steam because HL2 required it. THAT was the platform's killer app. : David Craddock
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        Preloaded with Half-Life 3? : Haku-Jin
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          And what else? I think it's safe to say you need a handful of half decent exclusives combined with some g... : Fred Garvin
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            I don't think they would load it with exclusives and alienate they're loyal PC fanbase. I could see them... : Haku-Jin
            • Their : Haku-Jin
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            In all fairness...the 360 didn't have a lot of good exclusives out of the gate...only Project Gotham Raci... : Vorlonesque
            • And the PS3 had an amazingly bad launch as I remember. The Wii's two big titles were a port of a Gamecub... : Vorlonesque
      • Preloaded with Portal 1 & 2, HL 1/2, TF2 and L4D1 & 2, DOTA2, CS:GO Alien Swarm & top it off with HL3, wh... : Kojak2000
      • DOTA 3? : drhazard
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      I have faith! Steam for OSX is incredibly stable and has been bug free almost since launch. Valve activel... : singlespace
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        I don't think stability is the main hurdle here. It's content. Valve games, especially ones we've already... : Fred Garvin
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          I agree with you. Also, Steam on OSX is a flaming pile of shit with glaringly obvious bugs in the some of... : singlespace
          • I was about to ask you what magical version of Steam you were using. Steam is a pretty crappy OS X applic... : Mmmmmoo
          • ah, okay. Your sarcasm in the previous post was a bit too subtle. : Grape Flavor
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            "glaringly obvious bugs in the some of the most rudimentary of features like menus showing up that have e : Serpico74
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              I was going to take some screenshots of some of the retarded bugs they have, but when I launched it just ... : singlespace
              • It's amusing then that the linux client is already in a much better state than what you're experiencing. ... : Conan
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                Here some of the problems I still experience: -On first load, Steam sometimes decides not to render the ... : singlespace
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                  Just clicking around Steam right now, there's some stupid crap that I barely even notice anymore like dro... : singlespace
                  • Ah yeah, I fired it up and I see it in the "window" drop-down. Really weird. There are similar things lik... : Serpico74
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                  Cool. I haven't seen that stuff but I also don't run Steam in OS X all that often. I'll keep an eye out. ... : Serpico74
                  • I have serious doubts about it since Steam for OSX has been out for over 2 years now and they still have ... : singlespace
      • It's not a matter of how good the Steam client is, it's a matter of what games are available and how many... : Grape Flavor
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      You're comparing something free to something that will cost hundreds of dollars. People were also forced ... : StealthHawk
      • And a new console with just HL3 wouldn't be enough for the sales needed. : capt tripps
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    The list of games currently available for Linux Steam is far more than what was available for Mac at the ... : BlackCat9
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      I don't buy that. Not every game is suitable for both platforms. Also, the Steam client on Mac might be s... : Fred Garvin
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        I think that without knowing what they're going to do with the hardware, it's too early to say what games... : BlackCat9
        • So, they are going to sell to a market that is already aware of them and already owns a PC or Mac? That's... : Fred Garvin
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      It doesn't cost users hundreds of dollars to install Steam for Mac : OverloadUT
      • Well in all fairness they already own a Mac...so hundreds are dollars wouldn't be a barrier to entry even... : Vorlonesque
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    I dont see this as a direct competitor to the next xbox or the pc for that matter. This is aimed at ... : disembodied potato
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      How big of a market is that? : Fred Garvin
      • Pretty small, but i'd expect that is what they're aiming for. I think it would be a mistake to make a... : disembodied potato
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    If Half-Life 3 were a Linux/Steambox exclusive, would you buy one? : biofrog
    • Yes. : Wisp!
• Good luck. lol : boarder2
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  2013 - year of the linux console : boarder2
  • I giggled. : Conan
• Can't wait to buy one. : dmason
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  So, like the rest of us hardware junkies, Gabe looked at the next gen Console specs and wanted to cry. T... : Frraksurred
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    Can't help but LOL this. : MacemanInTW
    • Yep, that first line is perfect. Should be on a t-shirt. : master_disaster_17
  • he did a 360 x2, said are you PS4 real then 8 windows. : 60days
• pretty much this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWoYmTAfDbk : aasyranth
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  People who have or like to build gaming PCs, need to get one thing straight, this isn't meant for them. I... : JeanLucAwesome
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    You realise the steambox will essentially have license fees too? Valve takes a cut of any title sold on s... : disembodied potato
    • True, but Valve has always had a major point in their favor: the fact that they don't charge ludicrous su... : vai90