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  Yes and I'm sure the the inexperienced and/or biased moderator had nothing to do with him "winning". But ... : KAF Elite
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    Everything about that debate sucked, including the candidates, but Romney managed to appear like he sucke... : one random winner
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      The next debate is a Town Hall format and includes foreign policy, so in theory it's better suited to Oba... : riptyde
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        Mitt will come out swinging for the fences again. He will edit things as necessary. Even extremely recen... : Downforce
        • "Clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question-and-answer sessions, now a : riptyde
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    You can blame a million factors, but Jim Lehrer being an "inexperienced and/or biased moderator" can't re... : bilbo202
    • IAWTP : lpearl
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      did you even watch the debate? he sure as shit came across as inexperienced. : Korban
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        It was PBS and their conservative bias! : skinlab133
        • lol : bipolar
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        yeah, i watched it. read up on the new debate format and Lehrer's comments for some insight. : bilbo202
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          and you still think he did a good job? : Korban
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            did I say he did a good job? I'm just saying that if you're going to claim inexperience you should point... : bilbo202
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              while he may be the most experienced, he didn't display any proof of it on wednesday. : Korban
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                I get what Mr Baggins is saying, and he's correct, but yea...he didn't come across as very pro :/ : Ebu
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                  man I gotta get rid of this handle from the 80's. : bilbo202
                  • Wear your badge of shame with pride! : Ebu
      • I think he is just getting too old to really manage it. : OutlawSundown
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        supposedly it was a new format. : DeBurgo
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          liked new format, thought moderator did well, don't get it : llamameat
          • You don't think that a moderator should... well... moderate the debate? : Arctic Fox
  • lol : skinlab133
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    Lehrer is neither, and his job was to do little more than watch the time and ask the initial question. B... : rms
    • It really is an impressive work of bipartisanship that Mitt somehow convinced Democrats, Massachusetts De... : riptyde
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    What got me was not just Lehrer's complete inability to control the debate, but the terrible questions. ... : riptyde
    • They also didn't talk about energy, climate, gun laws, or anything else that would fall under Domestic Po... : riptyde
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    Give me a break. Obama, one of the most charismatic and savvy men in recent politics, cannot overcome an... : holinka
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      Charismatic and savvy man who hasn't debated anyone in 4 years, vs Romney who just ran through a gauntlet... : riptyde
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        Yeah it's a guy who has been doing nothing but debating and preparing for years now versus a guy who is r... : Schnapple
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          I think it's widely known that Obama chose not to focus on his debate prep. For the next one, Obama is ma... : peachaeo
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            I think it's widely known that Obama chose not to focus on his debate prep. link? : riptyde
            • it's all over fox news the prez is super lazy and stuff : qwpeoriu
            • Dude you of all people know this. I think you just want to test my ability to copy and paste links into t... : peachaeo
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    If the President of the United States can't overcome Jim fucking Lehrer then he deserves the thrashing he... : skinlab133
    • Haha but he only got to speak for 4 minutes more! It's just not fair : peachaeo
  • yeah, blame the ref for a 45-7 loss : watcherxp
  • you really don't know who jim lehrer is? : Sapiens
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  I found it interesting how Jim wouldnt stop Romney from rambling past 2 min but be VERY stern in stopping... : Dark Drakonis
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    I can't recall any other debate where one of the participants threatened to fire the moderator. : riptyde
    • Golf time = time for debate practice. Or he could have done it when he skipped all those intel briefs. : LaserTazerBlazer
    • That did feel odd, but he had to. : steauengeglase
  • Yet even with all that unfairness Obama ended up getting 4 minutes more talk time than Romney did. By th... : dookiebot
  • Are you just willfully ignoring the fact Obama had more speaking time than Romney? : skinlab133
  • He wasn't stern on Obama, Obama was polite and listened to him. He was trying to make a point of being mo... : LoioshDwaggie
  • You'd make a great politician with those kind of facts. : saunders45
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  I can't stand all the politics BS, but do people actually vote based on who they think wins the debates?! : uuneter
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    Historically speaking, not really. : riptyde
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      What about Nixon/JFK, Reagan( TV-Main), Clinton ( TV-Democrat Debates ) I think all four of those Pre... : NeonGames_Kevin
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        Reagan lost the first debate to Mondale : RikiTiki2
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          yeah but i think he's talking about the debate with carter, before he was president : qwpeoriu
          • either way i don't know what point that makes, there doesn't seem to be any kind of predictable outcome b... : qwpeoriu
          • Reagan was already pulling away from Carter when they got around to debating, but it probably solidified ... : mathyou
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    That's asking the wrong question. Do people look at who won a debate and say "k, guess I better vote for... : bipolar
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      I can't help but wonder if Obama was standing up there thinking "everything he's saying is lies and bulls... : Schnapple
      • The real missed opening was Romney's last line on that which was "I'll have to get a new accountant". Ob... : riptyde
      • He doesn't have proof for it because it doesn't exist. He was just woefully unprepared, I'm surprised at ... : peachaeo
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        The "tax break for offshoring" is because you can deduct the cost of relocating jobs to other countries. ... : riptyde
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          I know what it is. The point is that it's not specifically a tax break for off shoring and he should have... : peachaeo
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            But effectively it is a tax break. You don't have to pay the American wage anymore, so you pocket that mo... : Schnapple
            • Right. I'm not debating policy, I'm strictly talking about the debate setting. And Obama had no response ... : peachaeo
      • David Plouffe (I believe) said on NPR this morning that the Obama campaign intentionally prepared NOT to ... : jet-poop
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        Do you really not think both of them are liars? The left likes to attack Romney for shipping jobs oversea... : LaserTazerBlazer
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          This is called hypocrisy, not lying. You're conflating the two. Obama criticizes Romney for shipping job ... : Wisp!
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            No I am not conflating the two. If you are speaking out against the action of shipping jobs overseas and ... : LaserTazerBlazer
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              What policies is Obama supporting that ship jobs overseas? He's spent hundreds of billions on infrastruct... : Wisp!
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                What policies? You may want to look into the Stimulus money that the Obama administration gave to GE... w... : LaserTazerBlazer
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                  I'm not sure why you expanded this discussion of hypocricy of shipping job overseas to a discussion of ev : Wisp!
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                    G.E received $25 million (well I believe just shy of that) in stimulus money... and your defense is well ... : LaserTazerBlazer
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                      Can Obama do anything right, in your view? He signs a bill that invests hundreds of billions in infrastru... : Wisp!
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                        Can Obama do anything right in my view? Yes he can. He was right to give the green light to the raid into... : LaserTazerBlazer
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                          You're a piece of work, my friend. 1) The government's job is to fulfill it's constitutional duties an : Wisp!
                          • tag fail : Wisp!
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                            1) The Federal government's job by no stretch of the imagination is not to create industry. If you are re... : LaserTazerBlazer
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                              1) Solyndra was a loan. That's a really important distinction. The expectation is that the money comes ba... : Wisp!
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                                1) Yes I am aware that Solyndra was a loan. My point is it is not the job of the Federal Gov to loan mone... : LaserTazerBlazer
                                • Why is not the job of the federal government to invest in new technology and help American business? Beca... : Wisp!
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                            4)Iran doesn't have to attack Israel with a nuclear weapon, they can merely give one (or a dirty bomb) ... : LaserTazerBlazer
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                              4) Everyone speaks fearfully of Iran because they are a theocracy and their leaders say some legitimately... : Wisp!
                              • 4) Looking at Iran for the past 30 years shows one that is they are capable of quite a bit of fighting. T... : LaserTazerBlazer
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                              6) How would you fix the health care system? The ACA is based off a Republican idea - expand the private ... : Wisp!
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                                6) First I would allow insurance companies to compete across state lines (which I believe is banned under... : LaserTazerBlazer
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                                  That part you like - the part where insurance companies have to cover people with pre-existing conditions... : Wisp!
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                                    Yes those portions that I like are expensive. They will be just as expensive adding them to Obamacare. I ... : LaserTazerBlazer
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                                      Please don't call it Obamacare. I don't care what the president says, it's a derisive term and inaccurate... : Wisp!
                                      • Now you're third group of people, whom you say are not sick and are not insured. You believe they will ev... : LaserTazerBlazer
                                  • Also this is some news regarding Russia's nuclear arsenal "Russia said Wednesday it had no intention to a... : LaserTazerBlazer
  • Anyone whose vote is decided by the debates is a fucking moron. : NexusOne
  • Politics these days is just reality TV for people who otherwise think they're above it, and the news chan... : DinK
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  Does Romney get an achievement for this? : Sexpansion Pack
  • 1000 voterpoints : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Wonder if they did a poll on how many people watched a Movie during the Debates, because all they really ... : saturn96
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  All my friends who watched it said Obama won it, but then the next day every single news outlet was sayin... : TheVietSpecial
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    Romney clearly won on passion, aggression, and presentation. If you look beyond that, everything he said... : riptyde
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      Lol aggression. He won because when he said all the green energy loans went to Obama backers, Obama had n... : peachaeo
      • it's weird to see that when other data points are out, the other side freaks out. http://money.cnn.com... : Downforce
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        I think a lot of people here are forgetting one important thing... If you were an Obama/Romney supporter ... : LaserTazerBlazer
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          Where are people hitting up Romney for being rich while ignoring that Obama is (less-so but still) rich a... : ColoradoCNC
          • Where are people ignoring that Obama is rich? It's not uncommon for people to list Romney's wealth as a r... : LaserTazerBlazer
      • haha, "data points", here's a data point: my plan includes pre-existing conditions (for those who already... : EvilDolemite
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        How many teachers could you hire for $2.8b per year? If you add in the farm subsidies going to huge agrib... : ColoradoCNC
        • Well it's impossible to tell for a few reasons. #1 Teachers are paid differently based upon where they ... : LaserTazerBlazer
• Is there some way we can get this marked political? : capt tripps
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  Romney 'won' because he was more aggressive and rehearsed, not because of anything intelligent that he sa... : Psigun
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    Then you don't understand what winning a debate means : OverloadUT
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      Please, enlighten me. : Psigun
      • http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action.html : not a crook
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    Did you watch the debate? : peachaeo
    • Yes I did. : Psigun
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    Ha...he won as soon as Obama said "we're not here to talk about the past 4 years" : peachaeo
    • fareed nailed it. the new sculpted romney showed up. http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/ : Downforce
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  It surprises me how many people in this thread think Romney was the only one spewing shit. Both those ass... : saunders45
  • Please... let's hear your reasoned argument as to how Obama was spewing shit. : Wisp!
  • Except Obama is not. : SlamDunk
• The odd thing about these results because at the end of live showing of the debate there was a poll on th... : spidlb